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3316996 No.3316996[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

I don't need help fixing my life, I need help finding out whether it's *worth* fixing.

>> No.3317001

It is anon. Every life is valuable and existence is persistently beautiful.

>> No.3317008

YOLO man. Fix it.

>> No.3317016

>>3317001
existence or essence?

>> No.3317020

>>3317016
Existence

>> No.3317022

>>3316996
That depends on what you mean by 'fix', my friend. If you mean get a job, marry someone, move on with your life and make someone richer, I don't know whether it's worth fixing at all. If not, then the better question is, what do you intend on making your life into?

>> No.3317025

Worth? Not really, it's never gonna be better than non-existence. But why would you take my word for it? I can't justify myself anymore than anyone else. It's just plain unanswerable, which means YOU know as much as anyone else.

>> No.3317040

The teachings of both Socrates and Confucius direct us to look to the betterment of self. There is always something that can be improved; the lack of wisdom or insight is typical.

>> No.3317048

>>3317022
I don't know.

>>3317025
Shouting at the ground.

>> No.3317059

>>3317048
Well, I sure as hell can't tell you. Learn as much as you can now and try and answer the question yourself.

>> No.3317065

>>3317048
>shouting at the ground
Say what?

>> No.3317072

>>3317065
God is a shout at the ground.

>> No.3317075

>>3317040

Can you recommend Socrates best text?

Oh wait...

>> No.3317081

>>3317059
I never thought about trying to answer the question myself. Thanks.

>>3317065
That's all I'm doing.

>> No.3317094

>>3317025
>Worth? Not really, it's never gonna be better than non-existence.
Life is immensely better than nonexistence.

>> No.3317097

>>3317040
>There is always something that can be improved; the lack of wisdom or insight is typical.

Obviously

But why *bother*?
I need convinced that it's worth it.

>> No.3317129

>>3317097

You mean you want to be spoon-fed. You have asked the question, but the seeking of the answer is itself the answer.

>> No.3317136

>>3317097

>babby's first existential nihilism

>> No.3317143

>>3317129
>You have asked the question, but the seeking of the answer is itself the answer.

This homily doesn't do anything for me. I'm sorry

>>3317136
Probably. I'm afraid to see what the next one is going to be like.

>> No.3317172

>>3317143
Well, I'm afraid that there's no answer but your own. Only you can decide when it's been sufficiently answered.

>> No.3317200

>>3317097
"Not caring" is the easiest, and probably most self-deceptive response to being faced with the apparent meaningless of human existence. That doesn't make it the best.

>> No.3317207

>>3317143

>8deep10u

>> No.3317219

>>3317200
There's more than one way of not caring.

>> No.3317277

No, end it now.

>> No.3317285

>>3317277
If I get back from work in the morning and I haven't worked it out, I probably will. It's been fun /lit/

>> No.3317336

>>3317094
Depends on how you look at it. The other anon is probably a pessimist and sees life as something that is mostly suffered instead of enjoyed. That makes the absence of conciousness a preferred state, whereas an optimist would say life is mostly enjoyable and therefore better than the lack of enjoyment. It's more down to the individual cases than any swooping generality.

>> No.3317340

>>3316996
Having fixed my life, I can recommend it wholeheartedly.

>> No.3317423

>>3317285
I can suggest you this, OP: start by what matheticians sometimes call an analysis, which is essentially seeking for necessary conditions.
Instead of asking aimlessly and repeatedly wether life is worth living, assume it is. Then try to find out what you experience or think as valuable as you try to live your life. To make it short, as you compel yourself y to live your life, you will have to look for what can make it valuable. This implies you will have to experiment, to try new experiences, new relationships, or simply to ponder your old habit in a new, more focused fashion.

Because that is precisely the point: you will now have a focus, leading an analytic inquiry about the possible value of your own life, and the framing conditions (so to speak) of this value.

Does it sounds interesting to you, OP ? You could start very simply by doing something you hardly ever allow yourself to do, for instance. This is quite commonplace but could lead you to a new understanding of your own will.

>> No.3317479

>>3317200
That actually hit me kinda strongly.