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3302733 No.3302733 [Reply] [Original]

Okay fuckers, have you written a book? Well I want to read it. Seriously. Will read your book.

Post links to epubs or mobis would be best, but will accept pastebin or other bullshit

>> No.3302751

>>3302733
I wrote some my little pony erotic fanfiction, if that counts.

>> No.3302760

>>3302733
"Commercial retailer of ebook reader is betting that the future of books is ebooks. Commercial retailer not motivated by financial profit to say this."

>> No.3302761

I can't even finish the first chapter.

It's the first time I've stumbled onto THE story - after numerous horrible ideas and half-assed attempts at novels. And I can't sit down to write it.

>> No.3302767

The idea of writing a novel has been in my mind for years. How do I go about it OP?

>> No.3302771

>>3302761

what is it?

>> No.3302775

>>3302761
well you'll have an audience if that helps

>> No.3302779

>>3302751
I feel dirty admitting this on lit, but I also lurk with all of the nor/mlp/eople. Out of curiosity, what did you write?

>> No.3302781

>>3302767
i don't.

i used to blog, and i want to do some 2000 wordish shit for things like slate, FP, jacobin, etc, but -- like so many -- I'm having a hard time getting started. I'm back on lit editing people's shit so I can get back in the groove, as it were

>> No.3302786

>>3302779
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/61934/chapter-37

that's probably my favorite thing that I've written
i've also written some more stupid fetishy shit

don't bother, it's all crap

>> No.3302793

>>3302760
his company is by far the largest seller of physical books, too, so he gets paid either way

>> No.3302795 [DELETED] 

>>3302771

It's about a kid and memory and storytelling.

>>3302775

http://pastebin.com/TYwxUMEk

Here's the only parts worth showing. Needs a lot of work, I ramble.

>> No.3302796

>>3302786
holyshit no joke

>> No.3302797

>>3302786
I too have written some unfinished fanfiction of mlp. It's all pretty much crap. You've got balls bringing it here my friend. I'll leave now before I get the banhammer or worse, a diatribe from one of the esteemed e/lit/e. Later man, and knowing myself I'll most likely read your story at some point.

>> No.3302799

>>3302793
>coming this close to being an apologist for commercial propaganda.

>> No.3302813

>>>3302771
sendin to kindle, will read

>> No.3302832

>>3302767
You're not bored enough to do it.

>> No.3302878

oh the ironings: digital publishing killed off Newsweek

>> No.3302885

>>3302878
I know, right? That occurred to me when I found that picture.

>> No.3302938

>>3302733

I wrote a short play once.

http://technomagemalic.deviantart.com/#/d5om72r

>> No.3302945

>>3302938

>deviantart

There is no excuse for this if you're older than sixteen

>> No.3302963

>>3302945

It's a free and convenient place to post my stuff and have feedback attached directly to it. Also I mostly watch professional artists outside of some stuff I picked up during an MLP kick I was on for some time.

>> No.3302968

>>3302963

That you'd pay credence to that kind of feedback is pretty sad.

>> No.3302986

>>3302760
but that's why they're investing in ebook readers, and selling them cheaply. It seems to me like you don't understand business.

>> No.3302991

>>3302986
i'm objecting to the predicate "news" on this item, and i have absurdly phrased it because of course this news item is just a press release from amazon and commercial propaganda.

>> No.3302993

i havent written a book but i have had a book written about me

>> No.3302996

>>3302991
2marxist4me

>> No.3303002

>>3302996
is marxist a lit buzzoword like pleb is on mu

>> No.3303005

>>3303002

It's a pretty important social theory, actually.

>> No.3303007

>>3302996
that's not even marxist, retard.

>> No.3303009

>>3302991
What is it propagandizing? The transition of a medium from physical to digital?

I see no reason to think that the only purpose of the article is to sell Kindles. Certainly it will do that, but the digitization of books isn't only a commercial goal.

>> No.3303010

>>3303009
advertising is propaganda, retard.

>> No.3303012

>>3303009
i completely agree with you. that is why the interview is with a scholar of technology from harvard university. you technophile capitalists are so retarded. "what? it's not propaganda." you're up to your fucking eyes in propaganda and you think it's just neutral information exchanging itself with you, "news."

>> No.3303013

>>3303010
The article is not purely advertising. You're extracting only the things you wish to see, so that they can support your world-view and argument.

>> No.3303018

>>3303012
i completely agree with you. that is why the interview is with a businessman familiar with the industry and people's wants and needs. you luddite academics are so retarded. "what? it's not progress." you're up to your fucking eyes in progress and you think it's just corruption and the end of a pure art form, "literature."

>> No.3303023

>>3303013
i never said it was pure this or that. i said it was propaganda. i didn't say "propaganda and only propaganda." whether the propaganda is the essence, kernel and the rest is shell, or chaff, whether the propaganda is the vanguard of the article and the "news" article is the rearguard, whether one is fruit and one is core, i didn't care to say. you're reading things in to my posts in order to set down readymade phrases and warnings about subjective bias. and you're doing that in the service of defending this article from being called propaganda.

>> No.3303025

>>3303023
possible.

My main point is simply this: Digitization of books and novels allows for a more rapid and available distribution of the medium we are all here to discuss. To suggest that the promotion of ti is propaganda, even if such promotion is made with the intent to promote profit by one business, seems to me to be ignoring the positives of digitization and focusing only on the downsides of capitalism.

>> No.3303027

>>3303013
there's no argument here and you don't know my world-view. you're fabricating conjectures to protect commercial designs from words like "propaganda." it's the height of sycophancy. you're trying to make it seem like its being brought on by your personal distaste for 'subjective bias', which you are bringing into action against my revelation of a very obvious commercial bias. capitalist sycophants.

>> No.3303031

>>3303027
How can I be a sycophant on an anonymous messageboard?

>> No.3303032

This anti-capitalist schnazz is getting my dingus wet.

I wish I had someone like you to lie down with.

>> No.3303034

>>3303025
no, i'm just calling a spade a spade, and your ideology can't cope with that. if you had any integrity, you'd admit it was propaganda but argue that it was warranted for x reasons. and i'd just love to see you roll around in that mire. but you're afraid of getting dirty. typical idealist shithead.

>> No.3303040

>>3303025
more proof that people on /lit/ are too naive even for the consumption of the most evidently partisan media on earth, news journalism.

itt: idealising propaganda for our own belief systems. you make me sick.

>> No.3303044

>>3303034

Generally I believe that propaganda is meant to influence the viewer towards a specific viewpoint and refuses to present an opposing viewpoint. Question, what is the opposing viewpoint here? That books shouldn't be digital? Could you present the argument that you're suggesting isn't be accurately portrayed or defended in the media? I'd be happy to hear such a defense.

>>3303040
>ad hominem

I think we shouldn't have let the printing press ruin books. What an awful invention.

>> No.3303046

>>3302993
Why did someone write a book about you?

>> No.3303051

>>3303044
>i don't know what propaganda is.
that's a hilarious definition. propaganda is dialectic it almost always presents more than one viewpoint (in caricatured form) in order to crush it. more often than not, it presents two viewpoints which are just the same viewpoints and excludes all others. does this article properly address "when everyone learneth to read, it ruineth not only thinking, but writing also?" and it couldn't. by it's very myopic scope and it's ephemeral framework, news journalism is institutionally predisposed toward nothing but propaganda, especially since the death of fleet street. but the point of propaganda is not what they say about x or y, it's the very presentation of only x or y rather than z and aleph and so on.

>i actually think that the printing press has improved literature
the printing press has ruined the republic of letters by creating this amorphous nothing we call, this eunuch we call "literature."

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3303052

>>3303051
>the printing press has ruined the republic of letters by creating this amorphous nothing we call, this eunuch we call "literature."

>> No.3303056

>>3303052
and the modernists only can laugh. they can't accurately criticise modernity because it's too close to home. the romantics were much better critics and thinkers than the modernists.

>> No.3303059

>>3303051
>he printing press has ruined the republic of letters by creating this amorphous nothing we call, this eunuch we call "literature."

It wasn't a great loss considering what we collectively have gained from literature.

>> No.3303060

>>3303056
>>3303051

...aaaannnnddd my boner has receded

>> No.3303065

>>3303056
You can't see it, but I'm actually articulating a very thorough and very witty criticism, in the form of interpretive dance.

>> No.3303066

>>3303051
>when everyone learneth to read, it ruineth not only thinking, but writing also

You're quoting Zarasthustra like an evangelical quotes scripture.

Either way, let's focus in on this part, because I think we can agree this is the crux of the disagreement. I could very easily just call elitism and walk away, but I think there is something more here. I would rather have you present your point first though, rather than have me argue against an argument I don't know.

>> No.3303077

>>3303066
>totally different topic

Perhaps this should be moved to a different thread?

>> No.3303085

>>3303066
>You're quoting Zarasthustra like an evangelical quotes scripture.
that's the point.

>>3303066
and i could reply with "demotism" and have done just as easily. i'm not debating against the digitization. i'm pointing out that propaganda is propaganda to irritate the evangelical technophiles.

>> No.3303086

>>3303056
No, it's funny because the printing press was what made the republic of letters.

>This communcation depended on two fundamental inventions of the modern world- the printing press and the postal system-which together made possible the cosmopolitan polity of the Republic of Letters.

http://books.google.com/books?id=c8NjULH3sB0C

>> No.3303099

>>3303085
I understand now, you're using propaganda with original definition. I learned this word post-contextualization, so I would be hesitant to use it to describe anything that wasn't jingoistic or purposefully manipulative and ignorant.

I was adding on the negative context. I don't think you were necessarily assuming this context, simply using it to "irritate"?

>> No.3303117

>>3303086
so what? i don't deny that. but it was consumed by it and what is left is nothing but mere literature. your shrivers, barthelmes, bees, dfws, eggers, delilos, dahls, mcewans, munros, julys, chekhovs, shakespeares, didions, nabokovs, joyces, prousts, selfs, manns, kafkas, pynchons, tao lins etc.

>> No.3303159

>>3303117

What's wrong with literature? Why are you here?

>> No.3303200

>>3303159
nothing is wrong with literature. literature is perfect. i am here because i enjoy reading texts and some people here do as well.

>> No.3303252

>>3303117
>consumed by it

What do you mean?

>> No.3304098

>>3302968

Not with any real respect. Likely if I was viewed by anyone other than friends and family I'd view it as a sort of inspirational praise at best, instead of any kind of legitimate source for improvement.

If I wow the average western worlder I have to be doing a few things right on the way to getting better.

>> No.3304102

http://www.mediafire.com/view/?z586xyfoitps72g
it's embarrassingly pulpy