/LIT/ DELETION THREAD

[Anonymous No.3231630]

>Dec 10 01:32:01 <+JDigital> So what's the big surprise you were hinting at on /q/?
>Dec 10 01:32:14 <@moot> i think i might do some board clean-up soon
>Dec 10 01:32:32 <@moot> a couple of them are lost causes at this point and im tired of the constant complaints from one in particular
>Dec 10 01:32:49 <+JDigital> Please tell me it's /pol/
>Dec 10 01:33:01 <@moot> you'll find out soon enough

[Anonymous No.3231637]

Great, I discovered many authors thanks to /lit/.

[Anonymous No.3231642]

>>3231630
But if they delete lit, where will we all go?

[Anonymous No.3231653]

Sucks because it probably will be /lit/ that gets the axe.
There are faggots who constantly complain about this board on /q/ and that little bitch moot has expressed negative opinions about the state of the board in the past.
Where will I share books now if /lit/ is destroyed?

[Anonymous No.3231672]

man. that's going to suck.

fuck you people complaining about this board to moot, little bitches

[Anonymous No.3231678]

I hope he doesn't delete /lit/. Compared to other boards, our not shit:shit ratio is great.

[Anonymous No.3231684]

What did I do before /lit/?

I can't seem to remember.

[Anonymous No.3231690]

>>3231684
Whatever I did, it was the product of a former life, and I no longer recognize the postulates according to which I lived it.

[Anonymous No.3231691]

>>3231653

>There are faggots who constantly complain about this board on /q/

Really? Why?

This is a great board, it has its ups and downs of Rand, DFW hate that seems to result in 20+ DFW threads, occasional /pol/ and /r9k/ faggotry but this isn't the fault of /lit/, it's the general shittyness of 4chan that is streaming in on here.

I love you /lit/.

[VurtKonnegut No.3231692]

>>3231684

[Anonymous No.3231693]

why exactly would it be lit? Pretty sure it's gonna be /mu/, lets be honest

[Anonymous No.3231697]

It seems as if there's a few assholes reporting and complaining about anything they dislike. Sadly, the mods give in every time.

[Anonymous No.3231702]

>>3231693
/mu/ is a shithole and deserves it, but let's be honest, it's too popular. and furthermore the deletion of /mu/ would be tantamount to the destruction of /lit/, since all those terrible posters would come here. /mu/ must remain if /lit/ is to be any good.

[Anonymous No.3231703]

Someone needs to tell him that any time he gets messaged about "philosophy board pls" or similar, he just needs to send back an automated "I'm looking into this" and put the message straight to trash.

[Anonymous No.3231705]

>>3231630
No way, it can't be /lit/.

[Anonymous No.3231710]

/mu/ gets deleted.

Guess where they will go.

[VurtKonnegut No.3231711]

>>3231702
What if its pol?

OH MAN OH GOD OH MAN OH GOD

[Anonymous No.3231712]

it's probably /pol/

before /lit/ we had /r9k/ anyway

y'all too young to remember

[BarbadosSlim !!rEkSWzi2+mz No.3231719]

Oh but fuckin transportation, fashion, traditional gaming and travel are fuckin musts?

[Anonymous No.3231721]

>>3231642
>where will we all go?
420/lit?

[Anonymous No.3231723]

>>3231711
at this point, the stormfags are entrenched enough on /pol/ that they'll just scatter onto the rest of the boards spreading their bullshit propaganda. m00t's mistake was making /pol/, and then recreating it.

>>3231712
b y the time /lit/ was created /r9k/ was fucking terrible, and had been for a while. unfortunately. it's sad but it had basically been over and done with. certainly going back to it is not a viable option

[Anonymous No.3231732]

>>3231719
/tg/ and /trv/ are really good boards actually. /tg is solid (and i really doubt moot gets many complaints about it), it's a really good community. and /trv/ is very slow but has a lot of good advice (although i think it's been declining recently, probably because it's bee ngetting a little more popular)

[Anonymous No.3231734]

It won't be /lit/. We actually do have good, on topic discussions at times, and although we're a small board with fairly low traffic, we're not as bad as, say, /po/ or /trv/.
My guess is /x/. That poor board is on it's last legs now after repeated /b/ raids. What used to be a fairly creative board in terms of writing and art, as well as being genuinely scary at times - is now little more than skeleton spam and grifter 'jokes'. It's a shame really.
/pol/ may get the chop too, which would be a shame, because the only reason it would get deleted is because /q/ detests it.
Relax, though, it's not /lit/.

[Anonymous No.3231737]

NO. Not my /lit/.
Never. Without you guys, the world would be dark. There would be no true intelligent debate left. There would be no book sharing. No insane discussion of Paradise Lost. No fun. We must fight to save /lit/. Do it for DFW. Do it for Pynchon.. Do it for goddamn Joyce.

[Anonymous No.3231738]

>>3231711
good. we'll have the stormfags for a while, then they'll go, just like last time.

[Anonymous No.3231740]

>>3231737
you are the reason why people want to delete /lit/

[Anonymous No.3231741]

>>3231734
/pol/ is legitimately a terrible board, and i'm pretty sure it also generates a ton of crap for moot to deal with. but deleting it would generate an equal amount of crap.

>>3231738
it would suuuuuuuck for like a month though

[Anonymous No.3231744]

>>3231723
>at this point, the stormfags are entrenched enough on /pol/
Weesht. Those opinions have always exsited on 4chan, /pol/ only served as a place were those opinions were funneled into. The habbo Raids with black avatars who formed swastikas and clogged chat servers with 'fried chikunz and watermelonz' spam were 6 years ago now, long before /pol/ existed.

[Anonymous No.3231745]

>>3231723
ehh we can hang out at /co/ i guess then.

[Anonymous No.3231746]

I kind of hope /lit/ gets deleted so I'll have no further reason to come to this shithole.

[Anonymous No.3231748]

>>3231744
/pol/ stormfaggery is not the same as /b/'s LULZ SO EDGY

>>3231741
yeah this is true. we'll have a better board after.

[Anonymous No.3231753]

>>3231744
nah, that's not the same thing. the /pol/ posters are way more radicalized and political and ideological in the shit they do - that is, they actually have a political ideology that they espouse and cling to, not just racist imagery and language, you see what I'm saying?

it's possible that it's largely the same people, and that they've just been radicalized and politicized by the passage of time - possible. but it's still not the same phenomenon.

[Anonymous No.3231757]

>>3231740
Why? I stay to my board. I keep my opinions to my self most of the time. I lurk, rarely posting. Surely those are the hallmarks of a good user?

[Nichard Rixon !ftTSOhEiZs No.3231758]

There's nothing there to say it's /lit/. It's such a small board that is overlooked I can't imagine him receiving so many complaints from us in particular.

[Anonymous No.3231762]

>>3231757
when you do open your mouth you sound like a retard.

[Anonymous No.3231767]

>>3231762
Right. Then I'll lurk more then.

[satan !!1Fa7LzeI6u8 No.3231770]

its obv hes talking about /mu/

[Minimal !8b8UhWY1Kk No.3231775]

>>3231710
If I'm checking out your board now you better believe I'll be on here if moo is deleted

[Anonymous No.3231777]

>>3231767
Here's where you went wrong, boy-o:
You expressed a <s>positive opinion</s>.

[Anonymous No.3231778]

>>3231753
>>3231748
Why do you think this is so? /b/ has always had threads about black people and how stupid/criminal/weird they where. You people do remember ED right?
Just because the posting of this stuff is more frequent and generates more discussion doesn't mean it hasn't always been an undercurrent here. /pol/ acts as a lens that focuses all that discussion on one board.

[Anonymous No.3231795]

>>3231630
truffaut, uh?

[A Dead /co/mrade No.3231798]

>>3231630
That sucks, and I was just starting to like this place too

[Anonymous No.3231800]

>>3231778
political, explicit, and coherent on /pol/ in a way that it wasn't on /b/. on /b/ it was prejudice (and a certain amount of humor), on /pol/ it became an explicit political ideology that people would argue for. that's a significant and real difference. You don't go from making jokes about how black people are stupid and criminal immediately to posting about how cultural marxism is attempting to subvert white america.

[Anonymous No.3231809]

>>3231778
why do people think restating their position is an argument? or of any value whatsoever?

yes, we read your first post, we know you think that. either make a retort or stop posting.

[Nichard Rixon !ftTSOhEiZs No.3231810]

>>>/cgl/6481366

It's fake.

[kalashnikov No.3231811]

I'm sure he wants to destroy the best boards, /k/, /mu/, /lit/...

[Anonymous No.3231813]

Please, please be /lit/. 4chan doesn't deserve a literature board.

[Anonymous No.3231814]

>>3231691
Between the tripfags (decreased in power lately thankfully), the retard janitor, and the somethingawful/reddit invasion pushing constantly pushing their political agenda in every fucking thread....it's not a great board at all.

[Anonymous No.3231819]

>>3231814
God, I hate you (irl) (personally) (stop posting)

also there's no "somethingawful invasion pushing its politics on the board", that group of people and its political views have been here since the beginning. left-leaning and leftist posters have been all over /lit/ since the board was initiated.

the tripfags were p bad though but we're past that now

[Anonymous No.3231823]

>>3231819
/lit/ was indeed left-leaning from the start, but there is a group of people pushing their social justice shit in every fucking thread the last few months. This is definitely new, and it's clearly not homegrown.

[Anonymous No.3231824]

>>3231819

Why do literary boards/sites attract liberals?

[Anonymous No.3231834]

>>3231823
Agreed.

[Anonymous No.3231838]

>>3231823
It's really not true that it's new or that it's homegrown. I've been posting here the entire time /lit/'s been open, and it's always been an element of the board, to one extent or another. Maybe it's a little more pronounced the last couple months than it was the couple months before that, but that's just things going in phases.

>>3231824
Whatever spin you want to put it on it, college-educated people and people who read a lot tend to have liberal views, statistically speaking. There's a lot of college students on here, and particularly a lot of literature and humanities students. And those are groups that tend to be left-leaning. Just the way it is.

[Anonymous No.3231841]

>>3231823
tumblr invasion, more like it.

>>3231824
are you kidding me?

[Anonymous No.3231848]

>>3231800
>political, explicit, and coherent on /pol/ in a way that it wasn't on /b/. on /b/ it was prejudice (and a certain amount of humor), on /pol/ it became an explicit political ideology
Sounds very similar to me. The same graphs and information images they post are the same things that were posted circa 2006.

>>3231809
Perhaps it's repetition of the same argument, but it's using more anecdotes to strengthen it. Don't get uptight about it.

[Anonymous No.3231851]

>>3231848
why do people think restating their position is an argument? or of any value whatsoever?

yes, we read your first post, we know you think that. either make a retort or stop posting.

[Anonymous No.3231856]

>>3231841
>tumblr invasion, more like it.

SA/SRS/tumblr is 99% the same people anyway.

>>3231838
There's a difference between a left-leaning board and what's been happening lately. In the olden days, when there was political discussion it would just be that most posters would learn toward social democracy or socialism. Whatever. It comes with the territory, and never was a problem.

There's a gigantic difference between that, and people going into completely un-political threads and telling me my opinion is worthless because I'm cis scum, or working together to derail threads because someone didn't express themselves in the "politically correct" way. And the mod does nothing to stop this shit. Just deletes the threads instead of taking action against the people who destroy them.

[Anonymous No.3231857]

>>3231848
>The same graphs and information images they post are the same things that were posted circa 2006.

Sounds very different to me.

[Anonymous No.3231860]

>>3231848
There's a categorical difference between having an opinion and posting charts and graphs like that, and having a well-developed ideology which explicates that opinion and places it into a context which seeks to account for everything that takes in society as a whole. In this case specifically, there's a different between saying that black people are inferior, and having a well-developed ideology that says that cultural marxists are promoting black people to subvert and destroy traditional white culture. Those are different.

[Anonymous No.3231861]

I was at first thinking you guys were stupid to think /lit/ would get axed, but by the time I got to the end of the thread, the idea seems pretty convincing.

[Anonymous No.3231862]

>>3231824
Not really. I think goodreads, for example, were more likely Romney voters. Yes, I know what to expect -
>goodreads
>literary
Still a forum for literature though.
It's not a good question to ask though, because it naturally gets some people to draw the conclusion that liberal people are therefore more literate, leading to an often terminal case of smugness.

[Anonymous No.3231866]

>>3231860
All I can say is that I think you're over estimating them here. An ideology would suggest theres something more deeper than 'hurr durr jews are promoting race mixing'.

[Anonymous No.3231868]

>>3231691
>DFW hate that seems to result in 20+ DFW threads

Those are made by the dorks who get irrationally pissed off whenever you criticize their favorite author, dumbass. The fans are to blame

[Anonymous No.3231871]

Just know, I was a contributing factor in exposing the corruption of /lit/ to moot.

[Anonymous No.3231873]

>>3231856
>SA/SRS/tumblr is 99% the same people anyway.

Not the same people, but similar people who agree with each other frequently, certainly.

I don't think that I've seen anyone coming into a thread saying "lol you're cis scum and should die" unironically when that wasn't relevant. I mean, were you posting stuff about how transsexuals are evil or something (in which case, it's not best practices, but it's on-topic and, I think, hard to say it should be against the rules)? And are you sure that the posting wasn't ironic shitposting? Because I can't recall seeing an instance of calling someone "cis scum" that wasn't ironic.

Like, people have certain beliefs about how to express oneself, it's not foreign to the board and it's not a conspiracy. There's just people out there who don't like it when people say nigger and faggot, and disagree with it, and disagree with you. They're mostly people who have been on the board. I disagree with it, mostly, and I've been posting here at least as long as you have. Stop whining about how it's an invasion of people trying to destroy you. People just disagree, and that's okay.

[Anonymous No.3231880]

>>3231866
I'm not saying it's deep or correct, but it's a coherent ideology that attempts to explain events in the world. They believe in it as an explanatory ideology, not just as "fuck black people and jews." Those are different and you're not even making an argument that they're not.

[Anonymous No.3231882]

>ctrl+f mlp

Guys, I think you're missing the obvious...

[Anonymous No.3231885]

>>3231882
/mlp/ is a containment board, it will never be deleted.

[Anonymous No.3231887]

If lit is deleted just go to 420chan

[Anonymous No.3231888]

>>3231630
>dat accent
>dem jetpacks

Oh that adaptation. I like it a bit too much.

But about deletion: I've never heard of any complaints about this board. Why would anyone complain about it?

[Anonymous No.3231889]

>>3231882
heheheh

[Anonymous No.3231890]

>>3231856
>In the olden days, when there was political discussion it would just be that most posters would learn toward social democracy or socialism.
No. Classical liberalism has always been the dominant trend in 4chan. Everyone stays out of everyones way, and everyone's happy. Social democracy would imply that people here care about helping others, or what society does in general.

[Anonymous No.3231892]

>>3231856

I'm pretty sure the cis scum posts are jokes

[Anonymous No.3231894]

>>3231890
On 4chan in general probably yes. On /lit/, never.

>>3231892
>>3231873
I'm not 5 years old, I can tell apart ironic shitposting from serious idiots.

[Anonymous No.3231895]

>>3231723
I'm still confused about /pol/. The stormfags and just about everyone else are all trolling, right?

[Anonymous No.3231896]

>>3231885
And it's for that reason I hope /pol/ isn't deleted. /lit/ used to have to put up with most of the political shit. We still have some, but nowhere near as much as previously.

[Anonymous No.3231898]

>>3231887
not enough activity

[Anonymous No.3231900]

>>3231895
I think it's one of those things where it started out as trolling, then some retards took it seriously.

[Anonymous No.3231901]

Why would /lit/ be deleted. Like, hardly anything happens here

[Anonymous No.3231902]

>>3231894
can you tho

>>3231895
not all of them, i'm pretty sure. there's some people who i think see it as a place to promulgate their views and try to propagandize and convince others. there's definitely a lot of trolling though.

[Anonymous No.3231905]

The problem is that there is no respect for other peoples opinion anymore, even if they are extreme.

I actually saw someone write "racism is not allowed on this board" earlier today.

I care not for supposed superiority of the white race, but it is troubling when some shit head can't accept that other doesn't share his opinion and have him banned.

[Anonymous No.3231907]

>>3231880
>Those are different and you're not even making an argument that they're not.
My entire argument has been that they're different, and that you're overstating things. Your use of the word 'ideology' as well conjures up images of some sinister group who are doing all these posts. It also suggests that there's some aim or reason to doing so.
All I see is a bunch of people posting the views that they're not allowed to post openly, and exaggerating those views because of how empowered they feel in merely posting them. I don't see an aim, I don't see a goal, I don't see any reason or rationale behind it.

[Anonymous No.3231910]

>>3231900
Yeah, I figured it was the effect of some kind of normalization.

[Anonymous No.3231911]

>>3231871

That post was infantile, or at least how you put it across. A non-infantile post would have been a query about the correlation between drugs (hallucinatory or otherwise) and writing/creativity and whether we thought there was a significant relation to literature.

[Anonymous No.3231912]

>>3231905
counterpoint: don't be a racist. there's no requirement that you have to respect every opinion. and don't make this a free speech issue, this is a private message board and there's no a priori reason it should be a haven for racism and bigotry.

[Anonymous No.3231917]

>>3231907
Clearly you need to lurk moar.

[Anonymous No.3231919]

>>3231912
You are stepping on the slipperiest of slopes.

[Anonymous No.3231922]

>>3231907
What the hell are you on about? "ideology" does not mean "conspiracy." I don't disagree with anything you said in that post, really, I'm just saying that the group and the views they are expressing are different from the kind of racist stuff we saw on /b/ in olden times.

[Anonymous No.3231923]

>>3231744
>The habbo Raids with black avatars who formed swastikas and clogged chat servers with 'fried chikunz and watermelonz' spam were 6 years ago now, long before /pol/ existed.
But they were just trying to get a response. /pol/ actually unironically believes that shit.

[Anonymous No.3231924]

>>3231919
I really don't think that I am.

[Anonymous No.3231927]

>>3231912
There are plenty of forums that have strict moderation. The point of 4chan is anonymity and free speech.

What is it that you don't get about 4chan.

[Anonymous No.3231928]

>>3231905
This is the crux of this issue.
/pol/ may be a disagreeable board to some, but axing it this time around would certainly alienate a lot of people. It would set a precedent that some opinions are no longer tolerated on 4chan, and while it would start with the extreme ones posted on /pol/, where would it lead next?
I like being able to say what I want to say. I'll admit it and say I'm a coward, because I know full well the ramifications which would happen if I were to even discuss my views on women - which are actually quite tame to be honest in comparison to some views expressed here - in other settings. I like that I and everyone else is anonymous.

[Anonymous No.3231925]

>>3231907
That's probably the best way to look at it.

>Oh I can post my ideas over here and nobody will call me a bad person? Great, let me get carried away then!

[Anonymous No.3231926]

>>3231905
why would i respect an imbecile?

[Anonymous No.3231931]

>>3231919
I don't think he is.

[Anonymous No.3231935]

>a couple of them are lost causes at this point
/3/ is a dead board, /n/ is a bicycle board, /s/hc/cm/hm/ can be integrated into one porn board, we definitely don't need both 'cute male' and 'handsome men.' There are even boards for origami and toys.

>the constant complaints from one in particular
Probably /pol/, but /diy/ gets a few complaints, /ic/ is a total shithole, as is /r9k/. I have no idea what happens on the numerous Asian cartoon boards, but I'm sure some of them must generate all kinds of shit too.

I think /lit/ is fairly safe.

[Anonymous No.3231939]

As with all boards on 4chan /lit/ has a specific niche that doesn't have a lot to do with the board topic. Same thing happened with /r9k/ - he deleted it because it was "off topic" but later restored it because it had a unique subculture (which he wanted to keep the fuck off other boards).

/lit/ is fucking awful and I hate all of you people, etc., etc., but at least we can talk freely here without worrying about STEMfags and non-humanities types. Every other literature forum on the internet has too much circlejerking, it's too formalized, and ~feelgood~ political correctness is really pervasive as well.

As for /lit/ being a generalized humanities/philosophy/etc. board, try fucking talking about something like fascism, historiography, or ontology on any other 4chan board, or SA, or any other website for that matter. You'll get either a) "[Marginal ideology] is bad :O >:(" status quo groupies, b) open anti-intellectualism/tumblrism, c) complete ignorance. /lit/ may be full of second year undergraduate retards but at least we're dimly aware of the theoretical possibility that our narrow experience may not be normative for the entire universe. That's worth something, in terms of "board culture".

[Anonymous No.3231940]

>>3231928
If /pol/ goes I'll probably go. Simply because i've been on 4chan since 2006, and yes it's not as free as it used to be.

Clearly money and getting as many users as possible has gotten in the way.

>>>/q/302962

Just read moot, as he talks about his "company".

[Anonymous No.3231942]

>>3231928

>The heart of the slippery slope fallacy lies in abusing the intuitively appreciable transitivity of implication, claiming that A leads to B, B leads to C, C leads to D and so on, until one finally claims that A leads to Z.

>While this is formally valid when the premises are taken as a given, each of those contingencies needs to be factually established before the relevant conclusion can be drawn.

[Anonymous No.3231943]

>>3231926
No one is forcing you to respect their opinion, only to respect the fact they should be allowed to say it.
Quoting is a shitty way to express what you want to say, but this one is apt for this one by Voltaire -
>I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.

[Anonymous No.3231946]

>>3231943
Misquoting is even worse friendo :)

[Anonymous No.3231947]

>>3231943
No one's saying they don't have the right to say it.

Just that they shouldn't say it here, on a private message board.

[Anonymous No.3231950]

>>3231693
I would love that.

[Anonymous No.3231951]

>>3231947
You have to right to free speech as long as say it when no one can hear.

Is this actually what you are saying?

What kind of cryptofascism is that?

[Anonymous No.3231952]

>>3231942
Perhaps the bit about banning some opinions will lead to other opinions being banned applies, sure.
It doesn't change the point that it will feel something has changed. That a board where anything goes has changed into a board where somethings go, but others don't. That's a pretty seismic shift for 4chan.
/new/ was azed for different reasons than /pol/ would be axed. /new/ was off topic. /pol/ is entirely on topic (politically incorrect). If moot were to axe it, it would be because others disagreed with the opinions on /pol/.

[Anonymous No.3231954]

>>3231939
/lit/ really is one of those boards that hasn't got anywhere else to go.
Pic might be related.

[Anonymous No.3231955]

>>3231951
he's saying that no one has any obligation to give anyone else a platform just because FREE SPEECH!

[Anonymous No.3231956]

>>3231946
Fine, if you don't want the paraphrase -
>Not only is it extremely cruel to persecute in this brief life those who do not think the way we do, but I do not know if it might be too presumptuous to declare their eternal damnation.

[Anonymous No.3231957]

>>3231939
>but at least we can talk freely here without worrying about STEMfags and non-humanities types

Choke on a million dicks.

Your black women's studies degree does not make a special snowflake or part of a supersekret 4chan cabal. Just because I enjoy math does not mean I have to hate and/or not understand literature.

I do think your postcolonial feminist freudian reading of 50 Shades is ridiculous, but that doesn't mean I don't belong on this board.

[Anonymous No.3231961]

>>3231957
>I do think your postcolonial feminist freudian reading of 50 Shades is ridiculous, but that doesn't mean I don't belong on this board.

that's exactly what it means.

[Anonymous No.3231962]

>>3231955
But no one is giving /pol/ a platform. No one is being forced to listen to /pol/. In order to hear what /pol/ has to say, you have to purposefully go onto /pol/.
It's like Hyde park in Speaker's Corner. You can go there, ignore those you don't want to listen to, and listen to those you do. What you are proposing would be analogous to barring a speaker, or getting the police in to arrest a speaker, that you do not agree with.

[Anonymous No.3231963]

>>3231693
/mu/ needs a purge. Or a janitor like /hc/'s. Post anything that's not hard to the core hardcore there and it gets removed within seconds.
No one wants the /mu/ over here on /lit/, and you know I'm not talking about those who browse both /mu/ and /lit/.

[Anonymous No.3231964]

>>3231957
you can post on this board as long as you fucking talk about literature and don't make a million fucking threads about how much literature sucks and how awesome math and science are and how dumb we are for not being scientists or mathematicians

[Anonymous No.3231965]

>>3231955
>>3231955
Well perhaps if that platform prides itself with "You can say anything" free speech would be an important function of that platform you fucking morons.

I can't actually believe you guys. What on earth are you doing here?

There are plenty of better literature boards without aspects like these that demand identity.

The reason why racism isn't discussed here, is because we keep it on topic. Not because its forbidden you god damn idiots.

[Anonymous No.3231968]

>mfw /a/ is deleted
He wouldn't do it, would he?
>mfw moot created /q/ just to have a reason to delete /a/ and remove the embarrassing beginnings of 4chan

[Anonymous No.3231969]

/lit/ is as good as dead

I see /lit/ discussing movies, comics, music, drugs, video games, and college more often than anything related to literature.

We already have /tv/, /co/, /mu/, /v/, /r9k/, and /b/, which makes /lit/ redundant.

[Anonymous No.3231971]

>>3231965
I'm not saying 4chan should ban racism, I'm explaining what that guy meant, dick.

[Anonymous No.3231972]

If /lit/ were to be deleted, probably /int/'s krautchan. Some good literature threads from time to time, I've picked up some really good suggestions for lesser known Latin American literature in particular.

[Anonymous No.3231973]

>>3231962
i'd be fine with that (somewhat, I mean, i still dislike it, but i wouldn't object so much) if they actually stayed to /pol/

as it is, a lot of the time, they come here, nad you'll have some thread, about politics or race or something vaguely leftist, or even completely unrelated to same, and some /pol/ asshole will come in and give his canned perspective about how it's all cultural marxism and part of a plot by leftists to destroy the western tradition

it's not even an original or interesting contribution to the conversation, it's the same boring derail every fucking time, and either it gets ignored or it derails the thread fatally, god i hate it

if they wouldn't do that, i'd care about /pol/ a lot less

[Anonymous No.3231975]

>>3231969
>We already have /b/, which makes all the other boards redundant.

[Anonymous No.3231977]

>>3231973
So don't respond. Ignore it and it will die. Have you learned nothing?

[Anonymous No.3231979]

>>3231965
>racism isn't discussed here

dye /lit/

[Anonymous No.3231984]

>>3231919
I have excellent shoes called 'important distinctions'. They allow me to get anywhere I need to go!

[Anonymous No.3231985]

>>3231977
Well, (a), that's not true, it'll keep getting posted here, because this isn't a matter of trolling, it's a matter of intellectual commitment and (b), acknowledging that it's terrible and we just need to pretend it doesn't exist is a pretty weak defense of the thing and (c), even if I can do that, it's not the case that everyone can do that, and even if I do ignore it, it's pretty terrible when it's some nublet asking for opinions about whether he should read a book, and what he hears is that it's all cultural marxism

[Anonymous No.3231986]

god i'd love to see /mu/ deleted. it would almost be worth the inevitable ruin of /lit/ as the refugees poured in afterwards.

/mu/ used to be my board, too. around 2007-2008 there was no better board on 4chan. don't get me wrong, it was shit, what board here isn't, but it was funny, interesting shit. that special 4chan shit, a cesspool of negativity and elitism that brought around an enduring, unique dynamic between the posters of the board. it was consistently entertaining, but most of all, music was the locus of all the elitism and negativity. the way it should be.

now it's just pure reddit shit. irredeemable, tumblrwave, high school tier, unfunny reddit shit.

in any case, there's no way THE music board would be deleted.

if /lit/ gets deleted i'm done with 4chan.

[Anonymous No.3231987]

>>3231968

I wouldn't miss it. Out of all the boards that cling to a specific medium /a/ is definitely the worst when it comes to critical thought and judgement. They give anime a bad name.

[Anonymous No.3231988]

>>3231973
>as it is, a lot of the time, they come here, nad you'll have some thread, about politics or race or something vaguely leftist, or even completely unrelated to same, and some /pol/ asshole will come in and give his canned perspective about how it's all cultural marxism and part of a plot by leftists to destroy the western tradition

But this is a moderation issue. If moderation was good, it wouldn't be a problem. Besides, why would there be a political discussion on /v/, or /lit/, or /tg/? It's off topic and shouldn't be created in the first place. Perhaps a separate politics board would help. /po/ is certainly not about politics - it's politically incorrect, not politics in general.

[Anonymous No.3231989]

>>3231975
>We already have /b/, which makes all the other boards redundant.

But we only have two random boards: /b/ and /lit/

[Anonymous No.3231990]

he's deleting /q/

[Anonymous No.3231992]

>>3231979
You have to be fresh off the boat from facebook or something if you actually think racism is a major proponent on /lit/.

Seriously...

Jesus, there was a time when people knew to lurk.

They went to /b/ to be hazed and initiated
Grew sick and went to /v/ (/v/ was for a long time anti /b/)
Then they discovered the lesser boards and knew why one should approve the minimum amount of porn / gore / anime shit or whatever furry there was going around, because it kept the normals, normatives, out.

[Anonymous No.3231996]

>>3231988
political discussions on /lit/ are nearly inevitable. but even if they weren't, this shit will get jammed into completely off-topic posts because /pol/ dudes are really good at finding a way to twist it so their schtick is relevant. another politics board wouldn't help because it would just be /pol/ 2.0.

and i agree that it's a moderation issue, fundamentally, but apparently there's no moderation solution. so that's life.

[Anonymous No.3231997]

>>3231973
...and this is worse than the /lit/ hivemind's "the white man is evil and his capitalism must be destroyed" canned responses, how?

[Anonymous No.3231999]

>>3231985
>even if I can do that, it's not the case that everyone can do that, and even if I do ignore it, it's pretty terrible when it's some nublet asking for opinions about whether he should read a book, and what he hears is that it's all cultural marxism

Actually, most suggestion threads are derailed by pleb v. patrician spam. This happens on every single media board.

[Anonymous No.3232002]

>>3231988
/pol/ not about politics, really?
Eat some prejudice. There are plenty of leftists and various extreme political faction on both sides discussing there.

>>3231985
Yup, you've learned nothing.

[Anonymous No.3232003]

>>3231999
yeah that shit is terrible too

whatever this thread is getting me down. it's getting me in the dumps. i'm going to let it go. it's nice outside. i'm going for a walk.

[Anonymous No.3232001]

>>3231997
lol

there's not really a comparison in terms of the variety of content in the responses, or in the extent to which they're brought up when they're completely off-topic

[Anonymous No.3232007]

>>3232001
Could it be that you are biased and feel that other opinions simply is "wrong".

[Anonymous No.3232008]

Please don't delete /lit/, moot :(

I think this is the best board on 4Chan and the only board where you can seriously discuss anything related to intellectual history and all forms of art. /lit/ is basically the intellectual/humanities board in my mind. I've been lurking for about a year now and there really isn't that much trolling, and even when there is, it's related to literature/history/philosophy, etc.

Please don't delete /lit/!

[Anonymous No.3232010]

/pol/ cracks me up. i admit i would be disappointed to see it go.

[Anonymous No.3232014]

>>3232002
>/pol/ not about politics, really?

<--- literally the first thread there

[Anonymous No.3232016]

this is a hoax.
don't believe it.
nothing is being deleted.

[Anonymous No.3232031]

I don't want to be homeless what will I do oh god

[Anonymous No.3232046]

>>>/cgl/6481366
Tis but a farce.

[Anonymous No.3232049]

>>3231987
Really? I find they're a lot better than other places.
Are you sure you aren't just pissed off at them?

[Anonymous No.3232050]

Just in case it does happen, next best place for /lit/ and /phil/ is /r9k/. I'll see you guys there in case shit hits the fan.

[Anonymous No.3232051]

>>3232050
>/r9k/
I amn't going there under any circumstances.

[Anonymous No.3232057]

/lit/ has no alternatives.
I nominate /co/ for our backup board if we go down. Comics are the closest thing to /lit/ we'll get on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.3232064]

>>3231630
>>3231630
>>3231630
>>3231630

If /lit/ is eliminated, then let us keep each other updated by posting news / information on new boards on the wiki:

http://4chanlit.wikia.com/wiki

bookmark that shit now

[Anonymous No.3232067]

>>3232064
>http://4chanlit.wikia.com/wiki

Here's a better link
http://4chanlit.wikia.com/wiki//lit/_Wiki

[Anonymous No.3232086]

ALERT LEVEL RAND!

ALERT LEVEL RAND!

I REPEAT

ALERT LEVEL RAND!

moot is going to delete /lit/ oh god why what will I do i've found so many good books from you anons ;_; I suggest we move en masse to another chan with a /lit/ board. Hows 7chan.org/lit look?

[Anonymous No.3232092]

>>3232086
i'm on 420chans lit board right now, and against all odds it actually looks pretty good? I encourage other anons to try it out

[Anonymous No.3232100]

moot is posting on /pol/ saying the chatlog is fake

[Anonymous No.3232105]

>>3232100
Regardless /lit/ wouldn't go, it's a solid board with a decent (size wise) userbase that's mainly on-topic.

[Anonymous No.3232106]

[Anonymous No.3232107]

>>3232100
He posted on /cgl/ too but you fags were to busy freaking out.

see
>>3231810
>>3232046

[Anonymous No.3232166]

>>3231871
You get an explanation when you get banned?
I'm jelly.

[Anonymous No.3232195]

>>3232166
They're always informative. moot only enlists the best.

[Anonymous No.3232203]

>>3232100
Why does he have such a hard-on for /pol/? It's a fucking shit hole.

[Anonymous No.3232213]

>>3232092
I can't post on a site with such a name.

[Anonymous No.3232224]

>>3232213
Not that guy but I remember going to 420chan the last time 4chan went down. There is the occasional mention of drugs but overall it's just a more civil 4chan.

[Anonymous No.3232227]

>>3232092

Is there a good script for it?

Love you most 4chan but i'm preparing for the apocalypse.

[Anonymous No.3232234]

>>3232195
Rarely for me. I usually get banned for being a communist in some thread that gets deleted. I find out a day later and I'm lucky if a rule is even referenced. I get carried away into flaming sometimes but I could call people gay nigger faggots all day but quite pedestrian radical perspectives like the difference between sex and gender or the notion that the defining feature of property rights is the use of exclusionary violence get me banned every 3rd time or so.

[Anonymous No.3232245]

>>3232234
Poe's Law.

[Anonymous No.3232261]

I find it fascinating how the facets of communication change with the creation and destruction of avenues for that discussion.

I remember back when /sci/ and /lit/ were first created. Not only did you notice a remarkable drop in those topics on /b/, but within the first weeks the self-referential nature of the boards led to a unique individuality and subculture to the threads that were noticeably different from their previous instances on /b/ or other boards (such as deconstructionism on /a/ or alcubierre drives on /b/.

For instance, how do you think /sci/ and /lit/ would change if a /phi/ were introduced? How would /phi/ differ from /lit/ and /sci/, and how would it be similar?

[Anonymous No.3232303]

>>3232234
Good.

[Anonymous No.3232307]

please be /fit/ please be /fit/ please be /fit/

[Anonymous No.3232309]

>>3231824
Most serious readers are college students or graduates, and leftists control the universities.
People pretty frequently identify academia with intelligence itself, so people who take pride in their own intelligence end up waving academia's red flag out of sublimated arrogance. Angry dullards who somehow ended up in higher education and people who confuse their elaborate opinions of pop culture with authoritative wisdom (= hipsters) are unfortunately included in this category.

[Anonymous No.3232310]

I got banned from /sci/ for asking questions about cognition

I got banned from /pol/ for asking questions about leftism and liberalism

I got banned from /lit/ for defending feminist thinking

This is a terrible site

[Anonymous No.3232314]

if moot deletes /lit/ I might as well get banned.

[Anonymous No.3232315]

>>3232307
/fit/ got moot swole, so no.

[Anonymous No.3232317]

>>3232309

It's also true that most thinking minds will inevitably lean to the left - conservative thinking is almost always silly in comparison

[Anonymous No.3232318]

>>3232245
I figured it was something like that but the mods really show their colors when attempting to make that distinction. You can go full retard if it's some boring overstated right wing shit but anything thought provoking from a radical perspective is de facto trolling. It's bullshit.

Lenin never seriously attempted to implement communism.

Biological sex and social gender are distinct things.

Marxist professors often re-enforce capitalism by upholding the intellectual division of labor and enforcing social class divisions.

Queer assimilationists are supes heteronormative.

And so on and so forth.

There's plenty of serious writing on all these subjects and I'm slightly less likely to get banned on lit but still.

Srsly.

inb4 banned again

[Anonymous No.3232319]

>>3232314
If moot deletes /lit/ I'll never have a reason to come to 4chan again.

[Anonymous No.3232321]

>>3231744
That was 'protesting' a 'racist' mod, you idiot.

[Anonymous No.3232322]

>>3232319

Same. Good riddance.

[Anonymous No.3232323]

>>3232310
5/10

A bit too obvious.

[Anonymous No.3232328]

>>3232317
Most thinking minds understand public choice theory and therefore lean classical liberal. Any other choice is the product of willful ignorance about how humans and groups of humans operate.

[Anonymous No.3232326]

>>3232310
It's political leanings are definitely enforced by the mods. It's so straight Foucauldian shit yo.

[Anonymous No.3232327]

>>3232323

I'm not even joking, pal.

[Anonymous No.3232336]

>>3232327
Still shitposting.

[Anonymous No.3232337]

>>3232317
You're not very subtle.

[Anonymous No.3232343]

>>3232328

Is can't into ought.

>>3232336

Me and you both.

>>3232337

You're not very verbose

[Anonymous No.3232353]

>>3232317
Eh, limp dicked, insular, snobbish, victory fearing, peace policing, loyal opostion, college liberalism and ISO socialism are pretty fucking stupid too yo.

If you've never met communists who hate poor people or rich white feminists who lecture lesser beings about privilege you've never been near a college.

[Anonymous No.3232361]

>>3232353

I agree with you completely.

It should be about avoiding bullshit whenever possible.

[Anonymous No.3232364]

>>3232353
>rich white feminists

You don't understand.

They're women, they automatically receive -50 to their privilege score, so it's OK!

You on the other hand definitely need to check your privilege. What are you trying to do with that comment anyway, put down the feminist cause? I bet you're just another misogynist neckbeard shitlord.

[Anonymous No.3232374]

>>3232364
5/10. Chuckled but still got mad because I've heard it all unironically.

[Anonymous No.3232377]

>>3232317
You're probably american. I don't blame you for being disgusted by your populist right-wingers, especially since their most conspicuous voters are disgustingly poor rustics ("trailer dwellers"), a bunch of loudmouths with no urbanity whatsoever. But you should probably take the time to deconstruct your own worldview to make sure it's consistent with your own preferences. Are you sure you're not taking someone else's ethics for granted, taking them to their logical conclusion? It takes intelligence to understand and elaborate an ethical system, but intelligence is no more inherently tied to an ethical system than physical strength is.

[Anonymous No.3232382]

>>3232364

This guy, is not

>>3232317

This guy, btw

[Anonymous No.3232387]

>>3232227
I'd like to know this too.
They don't appear to have any awesome /g/irls that make scripts.

[Anonymous No.3232393]

>>3232092

If you're up for being on the slowest board of all time, sure

[Anonymous No.3232511]

I don't know why people think there's some sort of "tumblr invasion" going on. For every social justice post on /lit/ there are like fifty posts complaining about imaginary social justice police, and usually derailing threads in the process. This thread is a perfect example.

[Anonymous No.3232524]

>>3232511
Nice try, tumblrfag.

[Anonymous No.3232559]

>>3232511
It's pretty standard for conservatives to act oppressed whenever they don't get absolutely everything they want. It comes from entitlement. Are you even American?

[Anonymous No.3232563]

>>3232559
wut

There's a group of people crying about "privilege" and you think THEY are NOT they ones acting oppressed?

[Anonymous No.3232568]

If moot deletes /lit/ I'll never come to 4chan again. Maybe that's a good thing.

<s>Oh God /lit/ don't leave me. We can't all live in Paris. In real life it's horrible here. Hold me.</s>

[Anonymous No.3232569]

>>3232563

There is one troll post in this thread about 'privilege'. This is what you call a 'group of people crying'?

Why so sensitive?

[Anonymous No.3232575]

>>3232563
They are, and so are you you crybaby faggot.
Just because other people are wrong doesn't make you any less of a dumb cunt.

[Anonymous No.3232578]

>>3232568
i do live in paris, it's pretty meh here too

can't find a posse of writerfags to start up a movement.

[Anonymous No.3232581]

>>3232575

>other people are wrong

Which?

[Anonymous No.3232596]

>>3232581
tumblr fags that aren't even in this thread.
>>3232563

They're real but that doesn't mean that any discussion is an appropriate time to vent about how one time you found some people who were toataly wrong on the internet. <s>ZOMG!!11eleve</s>

[Anonymous No.3232601]

>>3232596
The whole point is that they're here destroying our fucking board you blind retard. Do you even know how many threads they have destroyed (which the mod then dutifully deletes) just in the past week?

[Anonymous No.3232604]

>>3232601

Show some examples. How is the board being destroyed and by what kind of posts?

[Anonymous No.3232615]

>>3232604
He can't. I doesn't happen. I just got a job last Thursday. Before that I spent the last two weeks dutifully checking in on /lit/ all day erry day.

[Anonymous No.3232625]

>>3232092
Against all odds? Where better to find a bunch of smug, fart-sniffing, hipster douchebags than 420chan? You know, other than /lit/ of course.

[Anonymous No.3232626]

>>3232604
There have been some political discussion so maybe this neckbeard just thinks anyone slightly to the left of him is a hurdurtumblrprivilege fag?

[Anonymous No.3232630]

>>3232626
>>3232615
>>3232604
What are you getting out of defending something that you think does not exist?

[Anonymous No.3232636]

>>3232630

An attack of its mirror in the opposite

[Anonymous No.3232647]

>>3232630
Uh. I'm not defending privilege fags. I'm defending the observation that they don't come here and shit up this board. Lern2read.

[Anonymous No.3232657]

i usually assume those cis-privilage posts are done in a sarcastic undertone

no one is that stupid right?

[Anonymous No.3232660]

>>3232657

You underestimate the viral autism of chan boards

[Anonymous No.3232664]

>>3232657
You are correct.

[Anonymous No.3232671]

looks legit

[Anonymous No.3232683]

Just read this thread: http://fuuka.warosu.org/lit/thread/S3221291#p3221567

What is ironic shitposting and what is not?

[Anonymous No.3232686]

>>3232683

Which posts do you disagree with and which posts do you think are destroying the board?

[Anonymous No.3232693]

>>3232686

well in that case everyone in that thread should be banned

[Anonymous No.3232696]

>>3232683
>http://fuuka.warosu.org/lit/thread/S3221291#p3221567
oh shit oh shit someone disagrees with me
this board is ruined
fuck

moot should really just delete us.

[Anonymous No.3232700]

http://fuuka.warosu.org/lit/thread/S3174494

la di da

[Anonymous No.3232703]

>>3232693

So, what's your qualification for what a ban-worthy post might be?

[Anonymous No.3232710]

>>3232683
>What is ironic shitposting
The ones with the meme in them?

<s>who are you quoting?</s>

[Anonymous No.3232718]

I don't want /lit/ to go.
For once im getting ahead with my reading list.
I wouldn't want to touch anything.

>>3231969
Don't say that.
We still discuss books from time to time and i love to hear people's opinion on books i've read.

>>3231987
/a/ isn't so bad but for the past three weeks to around a month and a half, its been the same circle jerking topic with nothing interesting popping up.

[Anonymous No.3232728]

if /lit/ goes...maybe we'll all finally read more

[Anonymous No.3232731]

>>3232700
>>3232683
These are both obvious troll threads.

No one who reads books reads Jezebel. Feminists fucking hate Jezebel.

[Anonymous No.3232737]

So in case this is true and /lit/ gets deleted, where else can we go? Some of the other chans literature board? Just migrate to one of the other boards on here and discuss books there?

[Anonymous No.3232741]

>>3231969

This is a place for people who like books to talk about all kinds of things, lit-related or not. It is this way. Has always been. You're very new here or just blind

Anyone who's browsed this board and the ones you mentioned can understand why this one exists in the fashion it does

[Anonymous No.3232745]

>>3232737
We must leave the basements

[Anonymous No.3232747]

>>3232737
We kill ourselves. The string of seemingly unrelated suicides with puzzle authorities and make for a good mystery novel for one of the writefags.

[Anonymous No.3232748]

>>3232745
Blasphemy.
A vampire does not leave his sanctuary.

>>3232737
Well, we could always create our own board or something.
That's in the worst case scenario though and i doubt it would last for an extended period of time.

[superior tropical rainforest confirmed grand master elite race patrician perfection beauty !!MkOVShAyNk/ No.3232752]

/lit/ should be deleted
no books on page 0 except for homework
no quality control

[Anonymous No.3232755]

>>3232737
7chan has a literature board, but it's very clow compared to 4chan's lit.

[Anonymous No.3232764]

>>3231672
It's not /lit/.

[Anonymous No.3232770]

>>3232764
How do you know?
I find it funny and ironic that /lit/ is in a semi panic mode because they know how mildly shitty this place is.
Though to be fair, all other boards are equally shitty.

[Anonymous No.3232777]

>>3232770
Because there are a lot of other boards that get a lot more complaints than we do.

[Anonymous No.3232792]

>>3232770
>>3232777
This. Plus, there are many boards that are way past their prime. /x/ peaked in quality probably 2-3 years ago. It doesn't receive nearly as much traffic now and there's no original content.

This is just a shot in the dark. The only boards I really browse now are /lit/, sometimes /tv/.

[Anonymous No.3232799]

>>3232777
I rarely check /q/ to see what they are bitching about but each time i check i see people bitching about stuff that seems common knowledge to the users of the board in question.
Its entirely possible that the deletion might be a small board and /lit/, which not being big dog, is still okay in traffic.
I'm sure that there are other boards that have lower threads than here.

>>3232792
/x/ is really a limping dog, its kind of sad.
Maybe 4chan itself is slowly dying. But i doubt that.

[Anonymous No.3232811]

>>3232213
Talk of drugs is limited to the drug-specific boards. Posting about being high on drugs is dedicated to a specific board.

It's the most civilized /tv/ [I think it's /mtv/ on there] I've lurked, without all the pedos.

There's also a separate philosophy board from the literature one, although intermingling isn't discouraged. It's very laid-back, except during the summer.

I still prefer /lit/ over here when I'm searching for authors/series.

[Anonymous No.3232821]

That image is fake, retards.

[Anonymous No.3232827]

>>3232731
>Feminists fucking hate Jezebel.

You know that the SA and SRS people invading /lit/ use gawker sites like jezebel to push their shit, right? It's pretty much part of the "fempire" at this point.

Your idealistic notion of feminists does not exist.

[Anonymous No.3232835]

>>3232827
>SA and SRS people invading /lit/
You're paranoid

[Anonymous No.3232840]

>>3232827
Why are they invading.
This isn't even a large board, there's no reason for them to invade.

There are only four guys who keep talking about SA and being from there and I'm two of them and we're joking.

SRS is filled with people who just want to be antagonistic anyways, they're not serious.

[Anonymous No.3232856]

>>3232840
>SRS is filled with people who just want to be antagonistic anyways, they're not serious.

>It's just a le troll guise! XD

Nope.

[Anonymous No.3232867]

>>3232856
I'm glad that such a fierce, logical mind is on our side and not theirs.

[Anonymous No.3232878]

>>3231935
/n/ and /po/ are actually pretty nice boards (relatively speaking), but yeah, I agree, /lit/ is pretty much safe

[Anonymous No.3232913]

>>3231986
>don't get me wrong, it was shit, what board here isn't, but it was funny, interesting shit. that special 4chan shit, a cesspool of negativity and elitism that brought around an enduring, unique dynamic between the posters of the board.

sounds a lot like /lit/ today

[Anonymous No.3232927]

>>3232377
>I don't blame you for being disgusted by your populist right-wingers, especially since their most conspicuous voters are disgustingly poor rustics

You're an idiot. Romney carried the majority of every economic group except households with an income of less than $50,000. I'm going to assume you think Republican rednecks in the Southern states are the ones milking the federal mammaries dry (suggesting they're hypocrites). Not even bothering to do some research and coming across The Maxwell Poll on the subject.

You probably say things like, "fucking nationalist parties in Europe are growing, because of those old fucks." No, dumbass. Nationalist parties get votes from the youth. For instance, The Swiss People's Party has the largest youth organization, Le Pen's popularity among 18 to 24-year-olds, etc.

Your ilk is legion. Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you.

I fucking hate leftists.

You think you're smart, but you're a fucking dumbass.


>darppp preconceived notions
>dun research or fact check eva

COME AT ME, BITCH.

[Anonymous No.3232942]

>>3232393
Well, if people flee to there it won't be slow anymore

[Anonymous No.3232945]

>>3232927
why would anyone come at you when you made no convincing argument about anything

[Anonymous No.3232953]

>>3232755
420chan's lit board is better

[But is it art? !!m1xxKTDNCw0 No.3232962]

>>3232927

it was closer to $70,000 wasn't it, and that covers what about 85% of the country?

people with a post-grad education tend to overwhelmingly vote for the 'left' party (out of the mainstream viable candidates)

upwards of that it's simply more obvious that you'll have more money if you vote for the republican anyway

youth tends to go to populist movements challenging the status quo, you can point to switzerland and le pen, yet you skip over melenchon and syriza, and well, every damn socialist movement ever

[Anonymous No.3232966]

Without reading the thread, I would say the following boards are much more likely to be deleted: /f/ /r/ /t/ /x/ and /pol/.

[Anonymous No.3232969]

>>3232962
>>3232962
>it was closer to $70,000 wasn't it, and that covers what about 85% of the country?

It was $50,000.

>people with a post-grad education tend to overwhelmingly vote for the 'left' party (out of the mainstream viable candidates)

What is your point?

>youth tends to go to populist movements challenging the status quo, you can point to switzerland and le pen, yet you skip over melenchon and syriza, and well, every damn socialist movement ever

I was raising a point on the constituents of nationalist parties throughout Europe.

[But is it art? !!m1xxKTDNCw0 No.3232988]

>>3232969

Well, $50k is still ~75%, a rather sizeable chunk of educated people you're probably ignoring there.

Post-grads are more educated, by definition. (ok, i was skim reading and thought the discussion was continuing on education lines since the post you quoted itself quoted about intelligence)

urban populations do overwhelmingly vote for the left, although this doesn't necessarily mean wealthy

generally speaking people vote for what's in their own interests anyway (hence the poor being core for the left, the rich being core for the right)

constituents of socialist parties are the young as well, nationalism gets bred in times of crisis, nations become more insular

but really i've read a fair bit which was not there in your post, my mistake

however, you did the same to the previous post, you missed the importance of the word 'conspicuous' and went onto a ranting diatribe of which doesn't challenge anything the previous poster particularly said

[But is it art? !!m1xxKTDNCw0 No.3232993]

>>3232988

oh also burden of proof and all that, where are you getting the $50k thing from?

[Anonymous No.3233003]

>>3232988
>however, you did the same to the previous post, you missed the importance of the word 'conspicuous' and went onto a ranting diatribe of which doesn't challenge anything the previous poster particularly said

He claimed the majority of Republican voters are poverty dwelling rural folk. I refuted that directly and went on a tirade.

[Anonymous No.3233008]

>>3232993
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/frame_game/2012/11/romney_exit_polls_he_won_independ
ents_white_women_and_middle_income_voters.html

[Anonymous No.3233016]

>>3233003
although it's important to note that conservative-leaning states tend to receive more in federal handouts than liberal-leaning states. They really are poorer, on average.

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2011/04/united-states-federal-tax-dollars/

[Anonymous No.3233019]

>word gets on possible board del
>all /lit becomes worried and try to talk themselves up

Its a xmas miracle.

[But is it art? !!m1xxKTDNCw0 No.3233026]

>>3233003

OK, well this is how I read it.

Here's what the poster said.

>You're probably american. I don't blame you for being disgusted by your populist right-wingers, especially since their most conspicuous voters are disgustingly poor rustics ("trailer dwellers"), a bunch of loudmouths with no urbanity whatsoever. But you should probably take the time to deconstruct your own worldview to make sure it's consistent with your own preferences. Are you sure you're not taking someone else's ethics for granted, taking them to their logical conclusion? It takes intelligence to understand and elaborate an ethical system, but intelligence is no more inherently tied to an ethical system than physical strength is.

Now, what is the key part about right-wing voters? It seems to be the only constituent part of the paragraph that dwells upon this is the first sentence.

>You're probably american. I don't blame you for being disgusted by your populist right-wingers, especially since their most conspicuous voters are disgustingly poor rustics ("trailer dwellers"), a bunch of loudmouths with no urbanity whatsoever.

The key part of this is:

>their most conspicuous voters are disgustingly poor rustics ("trailer dwellers"), a bunch of loudmouths with no urbanity whatsoever.

Now, while skipping over the sneering, classist rhetoric, they bit is:

their most conspicuous voters

Key word:

con·spic·u·ous
/kənˈspikyo͞oəs/
Adjective
Standing out so as to be clearly visible.
Attracting notice or attention.

Not that the majority are. Just perhaps the most questionable, as this poster probably believes the democrats would help the lives of these people than Republicans.

Unless you're referring to something outside of that particular post.

>>3233008

cheers

[Anonymous No.3233031]

>>3233016
However, the vast majority of "federal handout" recipients don't vote Republican.

Share of Recipients of each program that self-identified as supporters of Republican party in 2004-2007 Maxwell Poll:

Gov. Subsidized Housing 12%
Medicaid: 16%
Food Stamps: 20%
Unemployment Compensation: 21%
Welfare or public assistance: 22%
Disability benefits from government 25%

[Anonymous No.3233054]

>>3233031
post a link, that chart doesn't really say much without understanding the definitions and methodology

[Anonymous No.3233066]

>>3233026

>Not that the majority are. Just perhaps the most questionable, as this poster probably believes the democrats would help the lives of these people than Republicans.

See:

>You're probably american. I don't blame you for being disgusted by your populist right-wingers, especially since their most conspicuous voters are disgustingly poor rustics ("trailer dwellers"), a bunch of loudmouths with no urbanity whatsoever.

>probably american
>disgusted by your populist right-wingers
>their most conspicuous voters are disgustingly poor rustics
>("trailer dwellers")

It's obvious what he thinks of Republican voters.

[Anonymous No.3233067]

>>3231630

If he shuts down /pol/ OR /lit/ i'm gonna poop myself in rage

[Anonymous No.3233069]

>>3233054
http://www.maxwell.syr.edu/campbell/programs/Merged_Data_Set/

There's more, if need be.

[Anonymous No.3233073]

Yeah.
Nah.

[But is it art? !!m1xxKTDNCw0 No.3233080]

>>3233066

no you either don't quite grasp the meaning of conspicuous or are being willfully dense

he specifically called out the conspicuous ones, the (and allow me to stereotype here) loudmouth, southern, bible-bashing, get the government out of my medicare, obama is appointing communist czar types

i pointed out the classist implications, and they're a bit of a cock for it

as opposed to the establishment republicans, romney money types

you're reading your own biases into a post which doesn't contain them, please stop embarrassing yourself

the leftists aren't out there to get you man, they're not going to come crashing through your door with a gun to your head and demand taxes from you or whatever

[Anonymous No.3233105]

>>3231814
/lit/ has regular tripfags?

[Anonymous No.3233110]

>>3233105

Used to. They come and go. Sometimes the old ones post again

[Anonymous No.3233123]

>>3233080
>no you either don't quite grasp the meaning of conspicuous or are being willfully dense

Don't be quick to jump the gun. It seems you're the one having difficulty.

Let's plug in the definition to make it more clear:

>You're probably american. I don't blame you for being disgusted by your populist right-wingers, especially since their most obvious (conspicuous) voters are disgustingly poor rustics ("trailer dwellers"),

I shall use this (by the way, you ignore the reference of being poor):
>he specifically called out the conspicuous ones, the (and allow me to stereotype here) loudmouth, southern, bible-bashing, get the government out of my medicare, obama is appointing communist czar types

To point out this:

>the leftists aren't out there to get you man, they're not going to come crashing through your door with a gun to your head and demand taxes from you or whatever

No, no, and no. I'm not a Republican. You're the biased one and you're assuming a lot.

>you're reading your own biases into a post which doesn't contain them, please stop embarrassing yourself

And what would my biases be? Don't mention my hatred of leftists, because there's equal hatred for all across the board.

[Anonymous No.3233129]

>>3233123
You ignored the accusation of being poor, which is important to note.

[Anonymous No.3233135]

>>3233123
con·spic·u·ous
adjective \kən-ˈspi-kyə-wəs, -kyü-əs\

obvious to the eye or mind

[But is it art? !!m1xxKTDNCw0 No.3233141]

>>3233123

yes the most obvious ones, you've finally seen the key point

obvious != most

there that's fucking over

i have not ignored the reference of being poor, i repeatedly said it was classist

i started making assumptions because i got bored and you were being fucking dense (although you did say you 'fucking hate leftists'). And if you note: I didn't call you a Republican. Nice assumptions once again. If we're going for assumptions I'd take you either as a (right-wing) libertarian or someone who just hates the entire thing and doesn't give a shit about ideology so much.


Just to wrap it up once more:

Conspicuous != Most.

I'm sick of this idiotic argument over definition of a fucking word.

[Anonymous No.3233146]

>>3233105
satan... some namefags... sunhawk

[Anonymous No.3233157]

>>3233105

We post anonymously

[Anonymous No.3233159]

>>3233141
You're clearly upset. Perhaps, you should recuperate elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.3233474]

>>3231778
>You people do remember ED right?
>using encyclopedia dramatica
>any year
You will forever be confirmed for newfag.

[Anonymous No.3233524]

>>3233105
Thank god Ollie fucked off

[Deist !!fMq8ZXuIWTO No.3233533]

>>3233105
Not many, luckily.

[Deist !!fMq8ZXuIWTO No.3233554]

>>3233533
Please leave.

[Deep&Edgy !gL8dARQkUs No.3233575]

>>3233554
Spoilsport.

[Anonymous No.3233651]

what the fuck, there's a fucking pokemon board.

[Anonymous No.3234221]

>implying it's not /x/ that will be scorched from the face of earth.

[Anonymous No.3234223]

>>3233651
It's just a containment board like /mlp/.

[Anonymous No.3234227]

this is by far the best board for me to find new books occasionally and just talk about books leisurely. /ck/ is the funniest. /tv/ to rage about shitty tv that i watch.

anyway, /lit/ is my home board and its a hell of a lot better than a fucking pony board or whatever the fuck. a joke that went just too far.

[Anonymous No.3234239]

If the deletion of /lit/ significantly impacts the neckbeard pleb brigade's ability to communicate then perhaps it's for the best

[Anonymous No.3234364]

it would certainly save me time for actual reading and writing if this shit was gone forever. delete lit, moot!

i've contemplated posting something horrible enough to get a permaban to keep myself from wasting time on this fugging board, but I can't seem to work up the motivation

[Anonymous No.3234461]

It would be good if /lit/ was deleted and we all got lives and became awesome and rich with harems and mansions, cars and in twenty years time a song would play and there'd be a symbiotic montage of all our faces in different countries living great lives remembering /lit/ simultaneously.