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>Yes we all still know we all die anyway and morality is bullshit.

how the fuck does that invalidate morality? fucking moral nihilists don't make sense

fucking hate you hardcore materialists and your fetishism for objectivity of physical things

>> No.3225079

lol

>> No.3225106

because faggot it's all relative you faggot

why would you put so much faggot weight in morals when having a defined set of them only establishes the fact that you are a faggot

>> No.3225133

I kind of wish every thread on /lit/ started with an out-of-nowhere mid-argument rant.

>> No.3225145

>>3225133
they practically all do

>> No.3225180
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3225180

>tfw god hates you he hates you he hates you

>> No.3225190

Most ideas of morality are grounded in the realm of the absolute, in the assumption that it was bequeathed by an immutable, fundamental source (usually by the name of God). Given that we have given up the ghost and for the most part do not fall back on "God" as the answer to our questions and problems, this "immutable ground" entity has given way and taken transcendental morality with it.

Have you even read Nietzsche?

By the way, it's not that morality itself is bullshit, just that in large part, any moral system that calls itself absolute is bullshit.

Seriously, how can you believe morality is absolute? Do you believe it's wrong for animals to kill other animals in the wild?

>> No.3225204

>>3225190
6edgy8me
Premodernism states that God is our moral center. Modernism states that the absence of God is our moral center. Postmodernism denies a center.
do you even drift in a universe of un-anchored causality

>> No.3225212

>>3225204
>Premodernism states that God is our moral center. Modernism states that the absence of God is our moral center. Postmodernism denies a center.

wwwwwwwowwwwwwwwwwww

>> No.3225217

>>3225212
I don't know how to parse words on this board anymore. How should I respond

>> No.3225224

>>3225217
just get your dick it and j/o a little

>> No.3225227
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3225227

>>3225190
yeah fuck morals yeah so kool

>> No.3225237

>>3225224
Buddy I've had an erection ever since I walked into this horseshit thread

>> No.3225242

>>3225227
careful, your slippery slope is showing

>> No.3225247

>>3225204
The guy is right and what you said is just nonsense.

I think the point that you missed is that it has nothing to do with God, but with ideas of absolute. God died, but we replaced him with different anchors, as you put it.

And to add to the nonsense of what you said, I think you actually agree with the other guy. You just don't know.

>> No.3225252

>>3225247
What God died? You mean the traditional judo-christian God? You physicalists really have your heads up your asses

nitshit can go fuck himself

if all absolutes are wrong then gravity is wrong

>> No.3225275

>>3225252
yeah bitch that god has been dead
all gods are dead
entity-based gods = lamestream as fuck

science is absolute breh you cant rule that out
gravity is right
absolutes are god
god isn't absolute

>> No.3225271

>>3225252
>if all absolutes are wrong then gravity is wrong
>i have no clue what an absolute is LOL

>> No.3225281

>>3225271
>hurr it must be physical for it to be correct
>i hate social constructs i have self-hate of humanity i hate humanity coming up with things hurr muh cold dark universe devoid of all that is good

>> No.3225285

>>3225275
>>>/sci/

>> No.3225287

>>3225281
otoh weed

>> No.3225295

>>3225204
Let me ask you something. Do you accept the foundations of science? Do you accept the results of science? You, of course, benefit from the results of science, seeing as how we are communicating at this very moment. Science is valid and it presupposes that absolutes are, at best, rare. The speed of light might be constant, but that's only due to our current understanding and because that is what best fits our "model." But this "model" is not fixed, and people will strive to improve it and rectify its errors for as long as we continue doing science.

Why, then, can we not form morality in the same way? Why must our morality be grounded rather than malleable to what best suits our interests as species, society, and civilization?

This is a thought I have stolen from pragmatism, namely John Dewey who also strongly criticizes dogmatic views of morality.

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>>3225281
>get accused of not knowing what an absolute is
>accuses me of materialism

you plebs really crack me up

>> No.3225303

>>3225247
buddy i love you so much you just have to stop concerning yourself with issues of morality (absolute or otherwise) if you want to transcend the modernist mind-cage that has been crafted for you

fly be free

>> No.3225305

>>3225295
John Dewey? More like John Pooey.

he is also why our education system sucks

>> No.3225311

>>3225303
Freedom is both a word, spook, and an overrated thing.

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3225317

>>3225311
I like what I'm reading here.

>> No.3225325

>>3225295
whoa buddy
okay this is just you and me here
but you made a hell of a rhetorical leap there

yes i accept the foundations of science, of course it is valid, but it is also built on the presupposition of a quantifiable universe

there are things in the universe that can be quantified, to be sure. but you're going to have to do a lot of talking to tell me how you're going to quantify a moral system

>> No.3225327

>>3225311
spooks are spooks though

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>>3225305
>John Dewey? More like John Pooey.

lol thanks for wasting my time.

>> No.3225339

>>3225311
anon i like the cut of your jib
there are those that would disagree with you that freedom is overrated, to be sure. but fuck it whatever let's just keep breaking out of ever-larger cages together

>> No.3225342

>>3225325
>but you're going to have to do a lot of talking to tell me how you're going to quantify a moral system

what about a moral system makes it above being "quantified"?

>> No.3225352

>>3225342
we can measure how fast a particle moves, given standard definitions of distance and time. i'm not saying that a moral system is inherently above being "quantified", but you (nor i, admittedly) would not have the first idea of where to start quantifying it. unless you have something you'd like to share with the class

>> No.3225368

You know what kind of "people" who really suck? Reductionists.

stop reducing me down to what makes me up you fucking buttheads

i am what i am

>> No.3225379

>>3225368
what is "am"
ha ha ha
ha

>> No.3225387

>>3225368
you are what you are

you being what makes you up and its current configuration

cry harder

>> No.3225390

>>3225387
No you are wrong.

cry even harder, reductionist sociopath

>>3225379
What is and what is not? just words

>> No.3225395

>>3225387
Am > are.

you're probably an evo psych faggot too


why do you hate the concept of a self? you depressed or have brain damage?

>> No.3225400

>>3225390
no i know it's just words
i'm drunk
someone should have taken my keys to the internet a long time ago

>> No.3225401

>>3225368
no dawg im on my path to nirvana while u still be crying in 2012
what you are is nothing

>> No.3225405

>>3225395
lol evo psych

dyer

>>3225390
>No you are wrong.

compelling argument, you should publish. have you contacted harvard press?

>> No.3225407

>>3225401
buddhism is nihilism for hippie scum

nothing is an impossible concept

>> No.3225412

>>3225405
you never had an argument in the first place, bitch

>> No.3225421

ONLY GOD DEFINES MORALITY! REPENT OR PERISH RELATIVIST FAGS!

>> No.3225422

>>3225412
i didn't say i did, i said you didn't. is reading this many words straining your eyes?

>> No.3225426

>>3225422
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3225428

>tfw qt fat gf

>> No.3225435

>>3225426
if i could find my penis i'd take a picture of it and upload it to this thread

>> No.3225436

This thread is a complete shitfest. It's just some drunk fuck "trolling" everyone.

>> No.3225445

>>3225436
Oh monsieur, did I upset thou?

>> No.3225447

>>3225436
And that makes it different from the contemporary face of literary theory how

>> No.3225452

>>3225445
And this guy. I fuckin like this guy

>> No.3225453

>>3225447
shut up you edgy TWERP

you don't know what you are talking about, you aren't an authority

you just parrot authority like the little TWERP you are

>> No.3225461

>>3225453
i'm listening to the entirety of john meyer's "continuum" while masturbating to tame images of taylor swift and there's nothing you can do to stop me

"slow dancing in a burning room" is a great track i'd highly recommen it

>> No.3225472

>>3225060
Agreed. Moral nihilism is the coward's whimpering fury.

>> No.3225481

>>3225472
check out the pussy on this faggot
nihilism is the first step to self-self-awareness
stay weak
stay slow

>> No.3225482

>>3225461
can you post your favourite tame images of taylor that you jack off too?

>> No.3225484

>>3225481
i'll murder ur guts

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3225492

>>3225482
anytime bud
look at that strong aryan jawline
i'm so heteronormative look at me haha

>> No.3225500

>>3225492
disgusting

>> No.3225509

sadly i must leave this thread now
there is pot to be smoked
i hope i have illustrated an accurate metaphor of the illusive and absurd quality of the pursuit of truth in the face of the "morality question"
>>3225500
nice dub dubs bro

>> No.3225515

>>3225509
you mean trip dubs