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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iARHCxAMAO0

Welcome to the University of Toronto. Free Speech not welcome.

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>> No.3214390

>>3214386

I literally had to watch it in ten second increments, the cringe was that bad.

>> No.3214392

Good on those police officers.

Its also funny how angry feminists get when people don't listen to them.

>> No.3214401

Why do all the women look like hobos?

>> No.3214403

>>3214401

Canadian Liberals.

>> No.3214404

>>3214390
Shit, man, I still don't have any other reaction. I'm literally just staring at the screen.

>> No.3214413

Aren't they being sexist and presenting their own hate speech?

>> No.3214422

>>3214413

SEXIST MALE PIGGU CHECK PRIVILEGE

>> No.3214423

>>3214413

Yes, Yes they are.

>> No.3214424

Fuckin canadians

>> No.3214425

>>3214413
Welcome to third wave feminism. They (especially the woman at the end) are basically telling everyone that choosing ignorance is the best policy. The guy simply asked her what is wrong with hearing different views in order to gather information and her response was to resort to pejoratives and give no rational/logical/reasoned response as to why he should avoid the speaker.

These are the people that they use as examples/paradigms of their cause? Buzzwords and pejoratives do not a good campaign make.

>> No.3214431

I watched the video then read the warren farrell wiki. Can someone explain what the fuck they are protesting? This farrell guy seems alright, nothing for anyone to get worked up over. The wiki seems to say he opposes the 'patriarchy' that these shitty protesters are screaming about. I don't really get what's going on in that vid

>> No.3214435

>>3214431

Bandwagoning.

>> No.3214437

>>3214425
No, that's just undergraduates. Undergraduates gonna undergraduate.

>> No.3214438

>>3214424
All Canadians are like this. Every one.

>> No.3214450

>>3214437
My point still stands. They put themselves out there in order to be seen as examples of what they believe Feminism to be. Willfully in front of crowds and cameras. I have yet to see any Feminists decrying the behavior shown in this video (I'll concede that it hasn't been up long so it needs more time).

>> No.3214457

>>3214438
I actually hope you're joking, I want to move there once I've finished with my education in the UK.

>> No.3214458

I lol'ed at the hate that comes from the women. Btw, why can't they change their name from feminism to equalrightism. Because feminism (from the name) represents only females. They said they want equal right, so why not to fight other things. Like men taking nursing vacation or similar. These women are joke.

My girlfriend the other day called me sexist because I laught at feminists. Later her little sister came and he had a scarf wrapped on her head because it was called. So my girlfriend called her terrorist (as a joke). I pointed that out then her sister left. She was speechless, no more feminism bullshit from her again.

>> No.3214463

>>3214457
Every Canadian I've seen on 4chan has been really cool and not pseudo-feminist at all.

>> No.3214464

>>3214438
After growing up in canada i can say pretty much everyone is like this, not just here. Also there are still alright people. just they are few and far between.

>> No.3214473

>>3214464
Why do Canadians have a reputation for equilibrium?

>> No.3214481

>>3214473
>equilibrium
I meant equanimity, of course. Couldn't think of the word.

>> No.3214485

IT'S OFFICIAL!!! Feminists dislike mirrors ;-)

Feminism does NOT "provide spaces" for males to openly speak. These girls exemplify the censorship feminist dogma promotes.

Feminism produces mindless little girls & boys who say "These are the f#cking men who are GOING TO rape your sisters and the women in your life...""F#cking Scum!"

According to feminism, males are born guity.Feminism breeds hate,not equality. It creates bigoted attitudes & utilises shaming language to protect its hate speech.

>> No.3214487

It is extremely worrying that there are people out there who think like this.

I am saddened to see the pure anger and hatred that these protesters project onto innocent lecture goers and police officers. They do not want equality, they want to inflate their egos and elevate themselves through lazy and ignorant 'thinking'.

>above was youtube comment, not to shabby.

>> No.3214493

>>3214487
>the random Asian beta male

Please stop....

>> No.3214496

>more eloquent youtube comment

I hope all of these people die in terrible fire. This isn't progression. This is impeachment and regression of actual debate and process. You are not protesting 'patriarchy', or advancing womans rights. You're trying to silence and opposing voice through callous and ignorant chants. American feminists give woman all woman a bad rap. Quit trying to blame men for all your problems. You are not entitled to anything. Go work for something in your life for once. Quit asking for a handout.

>mfw feminist are always ugly
>mfw feminism was invented by the jews

>> No.3214498

I stopped being a feminist, an egalitarian and ultimately a humanist after I got to know fellow activists better. True story.

>> No.3214501

https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=709o6JSlWpA Warren is pretty smart.

>> No.3214505

>>3214496

"American feminists give woman all woman a bad rap"

>Canada
>American

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>tfw cutie pie Asian feminist

Noooooooooo ;__;

>> No.3214511

>>3214505
Canada is in North America. They're American.

>> No.3214514

>>3214508
Hahah. Same reaction.

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>>3214508
>random asian beta male at feminist rally, he chants "women hold up half the sky"

His ancestors are rolling in their grave.

>> No.3214522

>The Liberated Man was the beginning of Farrell's development of parallels for men to the female experience: for example, to women's experience as "sex objects," Farrell labeled men's parallel experience as "success objects. - wikipedia

Farrell sounds like a cool guy, what "hate speech" are they referring to?

>> No.3214524

I really like Warren Farrell and the fact that this happened makes me upset.

I mean, fuck, he's an Oprah best seller.

Fucking aaaaaaaaa

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Batcat is not pleased.

>> No.3214529

Jesus, fuck. If any of them read Farrell...

> he's a rape apologist

What? Glad I don't go to fucking U of T...

>> No.3214530

what is with the white boy with the feminists with long hair 'we are not super excited to talk to you.' god, i hate americans (and only americans do it) who use 'super' in this way. kid needs to have some serious learning done to him.

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>>3214516
>beta male rallying with feminist group

>> No.3214534

>>3214529
>> he's a rape apologist

how so?

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>>3214531
File says it all.

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>>3214535
>white people general

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>>3214369
>feminists


good for the cops. fucking cunts

>> No.3214545

tl'dr Warren Farrel in case you're not familiar

> Men are also oppressed by patriarchy and feminism needs to examine that.

Literally, that's what his big claims is.

>> No.3214547

The sad thing is this guy isn't even the dumbass "the government is trying to keep single" type of MRA. I'm generally sceptical of the "Men's Rights Movement", but Warren Farrell seems reasonable as fuck - right out of the old-school, Robert Bly men's movement, which (fun fact!) considered itself ALLIED with feminism.

BTW, anons, stop making blanket statements about feminism, they just make you look dumb. Feminism doesn't even resemble a single coherent movement, no matter what /pol/ (and some feminists) may tell you.

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>>3214542
>lol @ asian cop on the right. He looks like a channer.

>> No.3214551

>>3214534
He's not.

>> No.3214554

>>3214547
no true scotsman, am i rite?
If the fuckers are splitters, why don't they choose another name? 99% of feminism I met (on the Internets) is pure bigoted cancer.

>> No.3214555

>>3214547
Yeah, Farrell is really good.

> yfw John Lennon joined one of his men's rights movement

Feminism is not a unified movement and it's a shame that stupid undergrads are stupid.

Seriously, Farrell is really great.

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>a white beta male
>a curry Indian
>a dyke white "woman"
>muh culturalism in canada

>> No.3214560

>>3214550
ahahahaha

I'm imagining him saying
>2012
or something in that image

>> No.3214561

>>3214369
>Welcome to the University of Toronto.

It's a small group of dumbass protestors, not the university itself.

Every university has dumb ppl and stupid "gender studies" pseudo science

>> No.3214562

>>3214554
There are a lot of assholes in the movement, but I wouldn't put the number as high as 99%.

How many of these did you "meet" organically, and how many did you see on "ooh, look at the scary/dumb feminist" threads?

>> No.3214563

I don't even know who Warren Farell is; But fuck these cheap ass feminist protestors.

>> No.3214566

Can we stop being butthurt about feminism?

>> No.3214567

>>3214534
That's what some of the kids were yelling.

He's not at all a rape apologist. Not in any way. He argues that patriarchy makes women "sex objects" and men "success objects" and that neither is conducive to healthy relationships.

Sexy women can't give love but only be loved, and successful men can't love but only work. Neither is healthy.

Farrell has a big history of promoting feminism. Undergrads are seriously the worst human beings.

>> No.3214568

>>3214560
I seriously hope he doesn't say Less Than 2012.

>> No.3214571

>>3214438 here,

>>3214457
>>3214464

Of course I was joking. This is a select group of people who refuse to to acknowledge other views as anything but slanderous to their own cause. These people are found everywhere.

>> No.3214572

>>3214450
Undergraduate fascists do the same
Undergraduate christians do the same
Undergraduate trots do the same
Undergraduate asian cultural societies do the same
Undergraduate anime clubs do the same

The problem is undergraduates.

>> No.3214574

>>3214568
He yells "DO YOU EVEN LIFT, HEHEHE, SHIGGYYY DO DOO"

>> No.3214577

>>3214572
Let's not pretend it's just undergraduates.

http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/college-says-men-working-sign-is-sexist.html

Ignore the source, consider the content.

>> No.3214580

>>3214572
My nigga.

There's really nothing you can do. Undergraduates are forever...

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Jimmies rustled bad. I wish someone would have argued back to them though. I guess it would've been too intimidating with all those people blindly shouting abuse at people wanting to see someone talk.

Also, they act as if all rapists are part of one massive patriarchal conspiracy.

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>>3214560
>>3214550

>> No.3214588

>>3214582

Ya, that one time when police brutality was called for and the cops behaved themselves....

fuck

>> No.3214589

>>3214577
>tfw I'll never be a strong independent woman who needs no man ;__;

>> No.3214596

http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/to-the-university-of-toronto-students-union/

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>>3214583

>> No.3214605

>>3214554
Cultural feminism is more than 70% of the movement. And the core tenet of cultural feminism is that politicization of feminism is wrong, that women and men's differences are essential, and that feminism should be implemented in an individual's lifestyle, not told to others.

Cultural feminism is female empowerment, radical feminism is the bullshit you see and hear about.

Honestly I'd say the majority of westerners are cultural feminists. Radical feminists are awful.

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>>3214583

>> No.3214608

>>3214582
>Also, they act as if all rapists are part of one massive patriarchal conspiracy.

Didn't you get the memo, you privileged cis scum?! Toe the line!!

>> No.3214600

>>3214582
People did try to argue. They just said "Fuck" in response and called it a day.

>> No.3214602

>>3214589
Huh?

>> No.3214609

>>3214603
hahaha!!!!

The 4channer cop.

>> No.3214611

>>3214605
>Cultural feminism is more than 70% of the movement

[citation needed]

>> No.3214612

>>3214577
> let's pretend its not just undergrads

But what you're posting isn't very obnoxious and loud. And in all fairness, what the fuck does that sign even mean? Men working! Caution! Oh, better take heed, men are working! Mind the men working!

It's still trite, but not at all insufferable like undergrad behaviour.

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>>3214607

>> No.3214628

>>3214617
My sides. Oh god, I can't stop laughing.

>> No.3214629

>>3214613
I like that guy. He seems like a total bro.

His tone and expression just shows complete and utter disappointment in humanity.

>> No.3214631

>>3214611
Cultural feminism has basically become a part of western culture. It's not really even a movement, it just is.

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>>3214617

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>> No.3214662

Where did this 'daterape is exciting' thing come from?

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>> No.3214675

>>3214662
I think Farrell probably said something like, date rape is exicting in that it literally excites people when the term is used. Not in any sexual way. Just like the word anti-semitic is an exciting word. He's talking about catch-phrases which automatically generate controversy.

Farrell is not the guy who would say that date rape is anything but terrible.

Undergrads can't into the english language.

>> No.3214676

>>3214662
It was about how women and men not talking but using body language used to be sexy.

Overall, the guy being protested has a variety of pretty good academia like slip ups. I think there was one about incest. Overal, a pretty smart guy who has published dozens of books on both women's rights and men's rights.

Here's the offended perspective on the date rape quote:
http://forum.rickross.com/read.php?11,95569,95569

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>> No.3214678

>trying to force a meme on /lit/

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On the other hand...

>> No.3214687

>>3214675
No, it's about what we call date rape now has expanded so much to include things that were once called sexy.

He's talking about a war of cultures, and is against the usage of law to define which culture wins the war.

>> No.3214688

>>3214678
>implying it's a forced meme
>implying it isn't funny as shit we found an asian cop 4channer

>> No.3214690

>>3214678
No one forces you to do anything, you fucking retard.
Don't like it, fuck off.

>> No.3214692

Fuck, and now people are trying to get the video removed with privacy complaints. Feminists, man. Fucking bitches and cunts.

>> No.3214693

>>3214686

He looks like shit, you can tell there's no real strength there.

>> No.3214698

>>3214693
i can smell the jelly from here. let me guess, armchair /fit/ poster who doesn't lift?

>> No.3214699

>>3214677
>>3214638
Ah fuck I love these.

>> No.3214701

>>>3214687
Ah, yeah that makes sense. Rewatching the video now.

When that chick tries to tell the guy that feminism is a better space to discuss mental health issues and she farts out the word "binaries"...ugh...undergrads...

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>>3214701
>tfw undergrad

>> No.3214721

"we encourage you to get educated on these matters...check google" - undergrad

>> No.3214724

>>3214721
>"we encourage you to get educated on these matters...check my blog" - undergrad
fixed for realism

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>> No.3214770

>>3214738
>tfw I'll never get to be the cool asian 4channer cop ;__;

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>> No.3214804

This just makes me sad.

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>> No.3214847

>>3214577
I produced an extended reply to this post that was eaten.

Basically: Senior University Admin is using feminism to drive a wedge between blue and white collar workers.

Also the sign is fucked from an OH&S perspective, is it about getting vehicles to slow due to construction, or is it about a sexualised homosocial workplace where men can be "together" without being "hardgay." (See the Autonomist criticism of "the factory" as a sexual space).

>> No.3214851

>>3214842
>cople.png
back to >>>/mu/ with you

>> No.3214865

>>3214847
Use Firefox already.

>> No.3214874

Fuck i can't stand this shit.
I'm from Quebec and im surounded with hypocrites.
I was at least hoping that Ontario wasn't as fucked up so i could move there one day.
Seriously, the fuck are they doing?
You can just see their faces smirking when they tell the police to fuck off.
Like hhreeururr im so funny telling you off?
What's with this kindergarten bullshit?
Is the rest of Canada really this shitty?
I'm all for equality but this is bullshit.

>> No.3214875

>>3214865
I'm sorry but fuck yourself to death in the dark.

>> No.3214882

>>3214875
get a gf, perv

>> No.3214883

>>3214874
>I was at least hoping that Ontario wasn't as fucked up so i could move there one day.

Don't worry brah, it's only like 10 feminist cunts. Rest of the people are cool.

>> No.3214887

>>3214883
>Rest of the people are cool
Good. This reassures me a lot.

>> No.3214907

"We don't tolerate that sort of thought at U of C."

Watch out! It's the thought police!

>> No.3214921

i don't think MRA is a hate group but you have to admit their only agenda is to show up feminism because they couldn't think of any other way to deal with the embarassment

>> No.3214932

>>3214401
Oh god, this.

>> No.3214964

>>3214401
>Why do all the women look like hobos?

Because Starbucks and waiting tables don't pay much.

>> No.3214966

Why don't these people give a fuck about third-world women?

>> No.3214969

Reminder that even 2nd wave feminists were completely insane cunts, and that portraying only the 3rd wave as crazy is just a tactic to get you to accept the ridiculous earlier positions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Solanas

>"Life" in this "society" being, at best, an utter bore and no aspect of "society" being at all relevant to women, there remains to civic-minded, responsible, thrill-seeking females only to overthrow the government, eliminate the money system, institute complete automation and eliminate the male sex.

>While Warhol was on the phone, Solanas shot at him three times.[44] The first two shots missed,[44] and the third went through his left lung, spleen, stomach, liver, esophagus and finally his right lung.[44] She then shot art critic Mario Amaya above the right hip,[44] and tried to shoot Warhol's manager Fred Hughes in the head point blank, but her gun jammed.

>Feminist Robin Morgan (later editor of Ms. magazine) demonstrated for Solanas's release from prison. Ti-Grace Atkinson, the New York chapter president of the National Organization for Women (NOW), described Solanas as "the first outstanding champion of women's rights"[58][59] and as "a 'heroine' of the feminist movement",[60][61] and "smuggled [her manifesto] ... out of the mental hospital where Solanas was confined."[60][61] Another NOW member, Florynce Kennedy, called her "one of the most important spokeswomen of the feminist movement.

>> No.3214973

>>3214969
Yeah, pretty much no one takes Solanas seriously. The only reason she persists in the culture is because she shot fucking Andy Warhol; I honestly believe even the SCUM Manifesto would have been forgotten, or at least forgotten and possibly revived a la Stirner on /lit/.

>> No.3214978

>>3214973
>pretty much no one takes Solanas seriously

Yeah, except for the New York chapter president of the National Organization for Women, an organization with over half a million members.

>> No.3214981

>>3214438
Except the ones who voted for Stephen Harper.
>>3214457
He's joking. But you're best moving to the Maritimes.
>>3214464
Again, come out to the East coast and avoid liberal arts schools.
>>3214511
The only American Canadians are the ones in places like Toronto.

>>3214572
I agree. Just look at most Occupy camps. Fucking undergraduates.

>> No.3214998

>>3214966
Shut your dirty mouth, you misogynist. I detect at least 9000 megahitlers of CIS privilege in your drivel.

>> No.3214999

>>3214969
At least she shot Andy Warhol.
Would have been cooler if she'd finished the job though.

>> No.3215000

>>3214978
w-wat
source?

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>That bitch at the end
Jesus Christ my jimmies are rustled.
In the States if she got filmed speaking that way she could easily be charged with assault and/or harrassment. On the other hand, all she would have to do is turn on the waterworks (a skill I'm sure she's mastered) and the case would be thrown out. I've never felt the urge to choke a bitch so strongly before hearing her open her mouth. Thanks feminism.

>> No.3215030

>>3214522
someone in the video called him a "rape apologist"

>> No.3215033

>>3214369
This is disgusting. Especially that one cunt that was vocal about everything and not allowing men to decide from themselves. I felt so bad for that one guy that came to hear about

>> No.3215035

>feminism/women's rights blows up, becomes a huge deal
great, stand up for your rights, awesome
>men's rights speaker targeted/blocked/called scum
this goes both ways

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pPGijYBaVE
>Warren Farrell
>hate speech

>> No.3215043

This Warren guy is really smart. Here he is summarising his whole position
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=709o6JSlWpA
You'd think people in higher education would bother to educate themselves about a person before choosing a position in respect to him/her. Or do Canadian unis just suck? Do they not teach you how to think?

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Shit's looking bleak, /lit/.

>> No.3215051

This guy has more clips about the event
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb9FZn6Lqg0
Holy shit these people are dumb. Holy shit.

>> No.3215053

>>3214969
>On April 25, 1988, at the age of 52, Solanas died of pneumonia at the Bristol Hotel in the Tenderloin district of San Francisco.[75]

>Her mother burned all her belongings posthumously.[11]

Even her mother didn't like her.

>> No.3215057

>>3215045
welp, time to get a doctorate

>> No.3215073

Apparently these people were trots.
It all makes sense now.

>> No.3215095

>>3214721
>"we encourage you to get educated on these matters...check google" - undergrad

Google and read this, bitch:
>Group Assault or “Swarming”: Discussion Paper

The protesters actions constitute assault under Canadian law. The police should have arrested everyone involved in blocking the entrance and impeding those attempting to attend the event.

>> No.3215103

This discussion really doesn't belong here guys

>thinking "free speech" is a right
>thinking rights have value
>thinking society has not historically persecuted since the dawn of time
so deluded

>> No.3215119

>>3215103
that's some undergrad level shit you got there, kiddie

bet yo momma thinks you're smart

>> No.3215126

Here is his speech. All this kerfuffle has me interested, but if it hadn't been for the protesters, no one would even care. Thanks feminism!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6w1S8yrFz4

>> No.3215171

the people in this video are exactly the type of people I've learned not to bother engaging in 'debate' with

because they don't know the meaning of the word, and are often narrow-minded at best

>> No.3215173

>>3215119
>>>/pol/

you can go home now

>> No.3215185

>>3215119
>muh free speech
is as postgrad as it comes