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>In This Thread: Favourite book from your country

Antal Szerb: Journey by Moonlight/Utas és holdvilág

>> No.3173127
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aw neato, a Hungarian.

What do you think of Dezső Kosztolányi, László Krasznahorkai, Géza Gárdonyi, Magda Szabó and/or István Örkény?

My favorite from my country would be Log of the S.S. The Mrs Unguentine by Stanley Crawford.

>> No.3174301

>>3173127
>using ő,á,ó,é,ö
>spelling Kosztolányi and Krasznahorkai without a mistake
Do you have Hungarian relatives?
anyway I don't read too much (fiction).
Örkény: read his Oneminute novels and a few books. He's good, I like him.
Kosztolányi: Few books. He is also good.
Géza Gárdonyi: I just read the Stars of Eger. I didn't find it very entertaining, but that was more than 10 years ago. Maybe I should give another shot.
Krasznahorkai: Didn't read anything from him. Satantango is on my list.
Szabó: Didn't read her.

>> No.3174318

>>3173127

>Log of the S.S. The Mrs Unguentine

I'm seeing this mentioned all over the place recently. Is it really that good?

>> No.3174319
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In Dutch: Nooit Meer Slapen

>> No.3174341

>>3174301
I was copying the names from their wiki pages to make sure I didn't make mistakes and embarrass myself. I always confuse the sz and zs's.

I'm glad to hear you like Orkeny and Kosztolanyi! I really loved the One Minute Stories I got to read of Orkeny's, but it's almost impossible to get the second volume in English translation. I think I'll have to end up ordering from the Hungarian publisher directly somehow.He reminds me a lot of other flash fiction-style absurdists like Kharms and Urmuz, except he has a more pleasant lightheartedness in his works too. I love everything from Kosztolanyi - Kornel Esti is one of my favorite books and is my favorite Hungarian one so far.

>>3174318
Hah, I think you may just be seeing me mentioning it. I post here a lot.

But yes! I really loved it and it seems to be loved by most who read it. It combines a lot of things I love in a book together - great (both nautical and surreal) setting, personal notes/diary telling the story, myth-like overtones and exploration of an established romantic relationship.

>> No.3174342

I've never read any book from my own country.

>> No.3174347

>>3174342
What country are you from?

Also: Krasznahorkai is damn excellent

>> No.3174349

>>3174341
Do you have an e-book of 'Log of the S.S. The Mrs Unguentine', I can't seem to find it.

>> No.3174350

>>3174347
Indonesia

Good luck finding a well written book here.

>> No.3174356
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I was recommended a Hungarian poet called Sándor Weöres a while ago. Have you read him OP? His Psyche poems look interesting.

Also, my favourite English novel is probably To the Lighthouse by Virginia Woolf.

>> No.3174359

>>3174350
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pramoedya_Ananta_Toer

This Earth of Mankind

>> No.3174362

>>3174359
The good ones always suffer most.
I hate this country.

Our history basically points out that our government kept society under constant pressure and is taught to embrace sloth and stupidity, most of my countrymen have a some form of slave mentality, scorning intellectuality and taking refuge in unquestioning 'faith'. To think is to be different, to be different is to be hated.

You should see the kind of thing that still airs on our TV, shallow villains that distances themselves from God and then falls to despair through no action from anyone but themselves, then begging for mercy from God.

I hate it, I hate it, I hate it.

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>> No.3174380
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Classics being classics.

>> No.3174381

>>3174380
English translation of title please

>> No.3174385

>>3174381
It's The Magic Mountain. You could've found out yourself by using Google for three seconds.

>> No.3174389

>>3174356
>>3174341
Funny, it's seems that some Hungarian authors are more famous in other countries than in Hungary. I believe this thread makes me appreciate that I can read in Hungarian and to dig deeper into the Hungarian literature. :)

Hard to say anything because I don't know the translations. Also I'm not into poetry at all. Weöres has probably some really good poems, but for me it is related to the childhood.

If you want to get a general introduction into Hungarian literature try Karinthy's That's how YOU write! (Így írtok ti!). Karinthy is a very good writer so I recommend his other works as well. In this book he mimics/caricatures all the famous Hungarian poets and writers. Genius

>> No.3174390

>>3174362

Sound like mein father. Will be going there is a few days. Cant say ive observed much to go against what youve said. Maybe this trip i will?

>> No.3174397

Paradise Lost. No, Hamlet. No, the Canterbury Tales. No, the Faerie Queene. Eh, I can't decide.

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Monitoring this thread for self-gaining purposes.

>> No.3174419

>>3174349
I don't! I don't think there is one yet. But it's published by Dalkey Archive and they've been releasing a lot of ebook editions for their catalog, so maybe there'll be one soon.

>> No.3174427

Der Mensch erscheint im Holozän, Max Frisch (Max the freshest)

>> No.3174434
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because Philippines

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>>3174434

>> No.3174461
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El Salvador.
"Pobrecito poeta que era yo", by Roque Dalton, on of the forgotten masters of the Latin American Boom. Too bad it's only in Spanish... don't worry, I will work on a translation soon.

>> No.3174463

That's a nice book, OP, but i think our country's greatest work is Az Ember Tragédiája by Madách.

>> No.3174465

James Joyce - Ulysses objectively.

Mine is A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man.

Proud to be Irish. Especially in the literary sense.

>> No.3174467

Australia.

Patrick White's "Voss" is the definitive Australian novel. Not even Peter Carey can touch it.

>> No.3174480

>>3174397

Britfags and Frogfags cannot play in this thread.

>having only one classic

other countries, are you even trying?

>> No.3174490

>>3174465
>Proud to be Irish.

Sorry bub, but you're not Irish unless you speak Gaeilge natively. You're British with a slight smidgen of Irish ancestry.

>> No.3174498

>>3174490
I live in a Gaeltacht area in the west my boy. You don't rustle me.

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This by Väinö Linna. A very good book series.

>> No.3174559
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tfw italian literature

>> No.3174572

>>3174465
>Ireland
>not picking O'Brien over Joyce

Confirmed for Irish-American

>> No.3174590

>>3174463
yeah that's pretty epic. One of my best friends favourite book, but it couldn't reach me the same way as Journey by moonlight.

>> No.3174603

>>3174572
No. Irish going back every generation of my family for centuries. Lived in the most rural part all my life. Proud of that fact.

>> No.3174604
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Петре М. Андреевски Дениција.

It's a collection of poems about this girl Denicija, and it's really beautiful.

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>> No.3174648

>>3174603

>Proud of where your parents fucked
>2012

>> No.3174667

>>3174648
No, I'm just proud of my superior upbringing and jeans.

>> No.3174669

>>3174667
Are they Ralph Lauren?

>> No.3174671

>>3174648
>thinking your country doesn't matter/your place of ubringing doesn't matter
>2012
>being an edgy hipster

>> No.3174675

>>3174669
What does Ralph Lauren have to do with Ireland?

>> No.3174687

>>3174671
Well, pride is really a necessarily fiction in the absence of actual free will (also a necessary fiction). That said, while most critics of patriotism are completely correct in that it's bullshit, the majority of them subscribe to an equally bullshit blank-slate humanism.

>> No.3174694

>>3174687
Err no. I'm happy with how my family and ancestors throughout the last couple of centuries have influenced the growth of where I live, and moulded it today. I'm proud of that and hope to continue it. I'm proud of the cultural, sociological and economic properties of Ireland that have culminated in a certain type of mindset in our writers that has yielded some of the very best.

>> No.3174696

>>3174669
Levis all day, everyday

>> No.3174697

Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors by Mykhailo Kotsiubynsky ("Тіні забутих предків" Михайло Коцюбинський) or The City by Valerian Pidmohylny ("Місто" Валер'ян Підмогильний). Can't even decide.

>> No.3174699

>>3174694
>some of the very best

okay.jpg

Are you also proud that you're all thieving scoundrels?

>> No.3174701

>>3174699
Irish writers are some of the best. Thieving scoundrels is such a generalisation that you're obviously aware of how stupid it is to suggest it's legitimate. I won't even bother debating that.

>> No.3174704

I am brazilian, but I don't share the international love people have for Paulo Coelho. Moacyr Scliar is a hell of a writer, though.

Check out 'The Centaur in the Garden'. Anything by him is pretty much priceless, imho.

>> No.3174705

>>3174694
>i will keep asserting the same bullshit as if it's challenging the points of everyone in the thread

>> No.3174706

>>3174705
That has nothing to do with what I said and isn't remotely applicable to what I said. Try again.

>> No.3174708

>>3174706
lmao

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>> No.3174711

Gerusalemme liberata

>> No.3174713

>>3174708
Oh god. You could have said that from the start and saved me from time. Waster.

>> No.3174715

>>3174701
LOL. My dad worked there as a doctor for 3 months and ten years later he's still dealing with lawsuits from moneygrubbing Irishmen. The lot of you are such cunt filth.

>> No.3174722

>>3174715
Good. I hope they suck the stupid wanker dry.

>> No.3174731

>>3174722
Nope, he's got insurance. It's just such a hassle. You save a person's life, and they sue you. Those Irish.

>> No.3174742

>>3174731
Like any yank, the oul' travellers do take advantage. Yanks are perceived as easy money by them. Rightly so.

>> No.3174751

>>3174742
Exactly: the Irish are lower class filth.

>> No.3174753

>>3174751
Or the gypsy community that your da was thick enough to get involved with, to be accurate.

>> No.3174761

>>3174753
They weren't gypsies. Just accept that you white niggers need to get your shit together. Have some dignity.

>> No.3174770

>>3174761
Hahahaha. Your dad was a thick gobshite who fell for some inbred gypsies tricks and is still getting his shit kicked in by them to this day. Your entire family are demonstrably pathetic retards. Enjoy trying to get the gypsies teeth out of you, they'll be draining you for generations.

>> No.3174776
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Lucky Per by Henrik Pontoppidan
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v33/n20/fredric-jameson/cosmic-neutrality

>> No.3174778

>>3174770
>I can't even accept responsibility for something I was proud of not many posts ago.

You can't have it both ways.

Getting under your skin has been fun. :3 I've got better things to spend my time on, however, so I'll be going now.

>> No.3174780

>>3174778
Run on lad. Claim victory, run on. Such is the typical tactic.

>> No.3174785

>>3174780
he won, you lost, get over it

>> No.3174788

>>3174785
>le samefag face

>> No.3174800

>>3174715
>worked as a doctor
>still dealing with lawsuits 10 years later
who did your dad kill/cripple bro?

>> No.3174803

This thread man

>> No.3174814

>>3174319
I love you.

>> No.3174838

>>3174319
>>3174814
I almost started swatting away nonexistent mosquitoes reading that, it really felt like I was actually there. Those interactions with others. The professors taking advantage of him. Those father-son feels. His travelling partners (I forgot their names). My goodness what a great book.

>> No.3174868

>>3174838
Don't forget the ending.

>> No.3174876

>>3174675
Joke

----------

Your head

You wrote JEANS, instead onf GENES

>> No.3174888

>>3174876
I know. :3

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>> No.3175239

>>3173114
NICE OP. It is a rather beautiful book. A little strange with the whole kid stories and all but I did enjoy Mihalay's whole existential crisis and such.

>> No.3175244

I have never read a book written by an Australian except the ones I was forced to at school, and none of those I can remember.

>> No.3175289
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Pretty much my favorite

>> No.3175295

>>3175244
Australians are terrible writers. It must be in your jeans.

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probably won't interest anyone here though

>> No.3175422

awesome thread. looks like I found some gems here.

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>> No.3175445

>>3175433
>If god loves me, why can't I get my locker open?
Oh wow.

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>>3174935

Terrible.

>> No.3175507

>>3175433
>>3175445
Got some nice reviews
http://www.amazon.com/Anybody-Cool-Awesome-Devotionals-Teens/dp/1556610408/ref=pd_sim_sbs_b_1

>> No.3175520

De reade bwarre (the red tomcat) by Trinus Riemersma (Friesland, in the Netherlands)
I don't think there's an English translation, but I've been working on one on and off in my spare time.

>> No.3175525
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A favorite

you will not be disappointed

>> No.3175560

>>3175525
Stan, your very presence on this board is a constant disappointment.

>> No.3175590
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Serbian

The Damned Yard in Engish

>> No.3175594

Corazón tan blanco (A Heart So White) by Javier Marías.

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bump for more foreign books

>>3175560

AHAHAHAHAHA
>implying im not the only interesting person in this cesspool of effeminate rejects

get like me

>> No.3176289

>>3175525

Kadare wow, didn't think I would see this here.I live in NY and was recommened Three Arched Bridge by an Albanian acquaintance and I quite liked it . Have you read it? How would you compare this to that?

>> No.3176295

>>3175525

That's a good book.

>> No.3176321

>>3176289

Three Arched Bridge is awesome but very different than PoD. The former is a literary take on a prominent piece of Albanian folklore, very somber and grave in tone, perfectly capturing the tragedy associated with most Eastern European myths. the latter is a very surreal allogory to the crippling influences of tyranny (Albania suffered heavily during a Communist regime and the indirect parallels drawn between it and 500 years of Otoman rule lead to the book being immediately banned by Hoxha) I recommended the latter because it is much more relevant.

>> No.3176358

>>3176321

relevant to what?

>> No.3176374

>>3176358

ahahahaaha look at this faggot.

well...it's definitely not relevant to the confines of your basement, or to the mountains of leftover Pizza hut and Mcdonalds which now serve as your furniture. I guess its not really that relevant to your crude and insular American experience...which is why you don't have to read it.

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>>3176358
>>3176374

>getting fucking told by one of the biggest tard trips on this board

Shamefurrr disprrayy

>> No.3176412

>>3176394

HAHAHA

even praise is loaded with insults. the funny part of all this is that i remember being bested only about twice in total in this board of intellectual cripples, and that was by...it shames me to say... D&E.

>> No.3176438

>>3176412

>>3176412

I don't think he was referring to the sparse moments of clarity, where you actually talk about books and engage in philosophical argument. He was probably referring to the nights of drugged up inane shitposting, which make up 98 percent of your contribution to this board.

>> No.3176469

>>3176438

hmmm yeah I'd say at least 98 percent lele

>trying to please a board of dickless neckbeards
>current year

captcha flassid courtship

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I'm not really into argentinian books,but I loved this one.

>> No.3177079

Midnight's Children by Salman Rushdie. A literary masterpiece.

What are your thoughts about it /lit/?

>> No.3177124

>>3174427

Damn good book.
That fucking passage about the birth of an island and the one were he is climbing the Alps were ridiculous.

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OP here. Let's do a quick recap, shall we?
(): more book recommended by the same person (in one comment)
Where I could I used the English title.

Hungary: Journey by Moonlight, Tragedy of Man
US: Log of the SS the Mrs. Unguentine, Absalom Absalom, The Wild Boys: A Book of the Dead
Netherlands: Beyond Sleep, De reade bwarre
UK: To the Lighthouse (Paradise Lost, Hamlet, Canterbury Tales, Faerie Queene)
Indonesia: This Earth of Mankind
Germany: The Magic mountain, Men in the Holocene
Phillipines: Noli Mi Tangere
El Salvador: Pobrecito poeta que era yo
Ireland: (A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man, Ulysses)
Australia: Voss
Finland: Under the North Star
Italy: Acquainted with Grief, Jerusalem Delivered
Russia: War and Peace
Macedonia: Denicija
Ukraine: (Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors, The City)
Brazil: The Centaur in the Garden
Denmark: Lucky Per
Sweden: The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, The Dwarf
Czech Republic: Zabíjení
India: India Unbound, Midnights childre n
Albania: Palace of Dreams
Serbia: The Damned Yard
Spain: A Heart So White
Argentine: The Tunnel

>> No.3177921

Lithuanian here:
Balys Sruoga "Dievų Miškas" (In english the title would be "Forest of the Gods")

The book is autobiographical, about the writers experiences in a German workcamp.

The twist (if you can call it that) is that he writes everything very humorously (so instead of saying how terribly the soldiers would beat them, he'd say something like "So the German soldiers would beat us, of course they would! But they're people too, they get tired, so they tell us to beat each other"

>> No.3177927

2666. Of course.

>> No.3178322

>a board of dickless neckbeards
>this board of intellectual cripples
>this cesspool of effeminate rejects

All in one thread. You fucking crossed the line this time, Stan.

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>UK

Nope. It should be split into the home nations

Wales: Under Milk Wood by Dylan Thomas