/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.3129169]

I don't know if is the right place to ask, but I'll give it a shot anyway.

Is there a place on the internet where I can read interviews with serial killers, or even better download .PDF files of the interviews?

>Any recommendations for decent books on serial killers would also be appreciated, the majority of what I come across while searching is fluffy ''true crime'' nonsense.

[Franz !!8ZELb56UWUx No.3129183]

The Stranger Beside Me by Ann Rule is absolutely incredible. I don't think true crime could possibly be written any better.

There are plenty of lengthy interviews and documentaries available on Hulu regarding Ted Bundy, Ottis Toole, Henry Lee Lucas, Jeffrey Dahmer, John Wayne Gacey, Albert Fish, Richard Kuklinski, Joel Rifkin, David Berkowitz, and others.

[Anonymous No.3129188]

>>3129183
Thanks i'll check out The Stranger Beside Me.

Unfortunately I'm in the UK, so I have no access to Hulu, access is blocked from here.

[Anonymous No.3129663]

There's some interesting stuff on feastofhateandfear.com, OP. A Richard Ramirez interview, I think.

[Anonymous No.3129745]

You might be really interested in a couple of books in particular, which I have in my own library. (Physical copies; none of this gay pussy shit that floats around on the Internet, but actual, awesome books.) Allow me to provide you a list. It'll take a minute because I have a number of suggestions and want to and give you links and descriptions to everything, because I'm pretty baked and don't have much else to do, and I like hooking people up with fascinating books about/by serial killers.

Also, in b4 accusations of edgy teen. I'm well out of that phase, I collected them for research for a pair of novels I'm working on. I find their psychology to be something of a morbid fascination for me, and firsthand accounts from them are always really interesting.

[Anonymous No.3129759]

Gates of Janus, by Ian Brady
>http://amzn.com/0922915733
A serial killer's perspective on serial killers; a masturbatory work that explores serial killing from a philosophical side courtesy of the pompous Ian Brady, who devotes chapter after chapter to profiling the psychology of various killers and types of killers. Really, really fascinating, fucked up, and completely pompous as one would expect.

Face to Face with Evil, by Dr. Chris Cowley
>http://amzn.com/184454981X
More of the child-killer, this time as he exchanges letters with Dr. Cowley; an excellent companion/contrast piece to Brady's Janus book.

Lustmord: The Writings and Artifacts of Murderers
>http://amzn.com/096503240X
Serial killers, spree killers, sadists, cannibals, this book has writing from a massive amount of killers. Letters, journals, drawings, photographs, all sorts of really interesting shit is in this one, it's right up your alley.

[Anonymous No.3129763]

Panzram: A Journal of Murder by Carl Panzram
>http://amzn.com/1878923145
Though I admit I've not had the opportunity to properly sit down and read it in its entirety, it is the absolutely fascinating memoir of the brutish Carl Panzram. Fascinating, fucked up. I found myself feeling pity for him after reading half of it, a testament to how good the most truly frightening monsters are at inciting sympathy from the compassionate.

Ted Bundy: Conversations With A Killer by Hugh Aynesworth
>http://amzn.com/1928704174
Ah, Bundy. Bundy, Bundy. He's an absolute gem. Mai husbando. And this book is nothing but interview after interview with him, as he tapdances, justifies, talks about himself without talking about himself. He is the absolute, textbook psychopath. I recently read the book Without Conscience, as well as Serial Murderers and their Victims (http://amzn.com/0495600814)) and a few other books on psychology and it's amazing to read the ways Bundy exemplifies every single one of the traits of a psychopath, right down to his speech patterns and facial mannerisms. Relatedly...

Ted Bundy: The Last Interview
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sIyTfXv2Hk
Watch as everybody's favorite lady killer blames pornography for all of societies ills and is general a complete and total weasel down to his very last breath.

[Anonymous No.3129765]

>>3129763
Gee, Youtube link, thanks for disappearing.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sIyTfXv2Hk

[Anonymous No.3129768]

Life and Death of a Serial Killer was interesting. It's about Aileen Wuornos. It's on netflix if you have that.

this thread is relevant to my interests. no edgy teen here either. I don't agree with them or idolize or put them on a pedestal. I just think it's somewhat interesting is all.

[Anonymous No.3129769]

>>3129763
>mai husbando

Edgy teen detected

[Anonymous No.3129773]

>>3129768
http://www.snagfilms.com/films/title/aileen_life_and_death_of_a_serial_killer

There's a link to where you can watch the aileen one if you don't have netflix.

[Anonymous No.3129776]

>>3129769
Nah. Once upon a time, yeah. But not these days. I just have a crush on him, he was handsome as fuck and I have a tendency toward very, very violent sexual fantasies, anyway. No harm in fantasies, my dear friend.

[Anonymous No.3129791]

>>3129776
When the man in your "fantasy" would literally kill you and is a real person, there's something wrong there. It also implies that you possibly view him as a "character" as opposed to a real person. Fantasies can be fine when you can draw a line.. but anyway

captcha: beating biofit

[Anonymous No.3129804]

>>3129776
i hope you aren't a female

[Anonymous No.3130412]

>>3129791
Sorry for no response, I went to bed. Also, nah. Just because I have a crush on Ted Bundy and have fucked up sex fantasies doesn't mean I lack the capacity to 'draw a line'. I'm not saying he was less than alive, or anything other than evil. I haven't fantasized about him (I very seldom find myself fantasizing about real people), but instead 'characters', as it were. Fantasies about all manner of things are perfectly fine, so long as one does not inflict these on others uninvited, and so long as they are capable of drawing the line between reality and fantasy. I am more than capable of drawing a line, my dear. I also would advise not attempting to psychoanalyze a stranger on the Internet based on a couple of posts in an anonymous image board.

>>3129804
Out of curiosity, why would it matter? Wouldn't it be just as troubling to you if it were a man fantasizing about it? I am a female, yes, but why should it matter?

[Anonymous No.3130428]

>>3130412
we already know gay men are mentally deranged, so it doesn't really come as a surprise when they are sexually attracted to psychopaths.

[Anonymous No.3130525]

>>3130428
hahaha

[Anonymous No.3130534]

"What's one less person on the face of the earth anyway? When war, started and controlled by supposedly sane men took the lives of billions. Who is madder, the solitary individual who kills a dozen for is own justifiable reasons, or the soldier, trained to kill thousands in the name of a cause he could not even understand?"

-Ted Bundy

[Anonymous No.3130818]

>>3130534
I highly doubt he actually said that and even then he's manipulating you.

[Anonymous No.3130848]

>>3130818
Yeah, Ted Bundy did say that, and loads of other cool shit too:

-“Murder is not about lust and it's not about violence. It's about possession. When you feel the last breath of life coming out of the woman, you look into her eyes. At the point, it's being God.”

-“I don't feel guilty for anything. I feel sorry for people who feel guilt.”

-“You take the individual we are talking about and then you subject him to stress. Stress happens to come randomly, but its effect on the personality is not random; it's specific. That results in a certain amount of chaos, confusion, and frustration. That person begins to seek out a target for his frustrations. The continued nature of this stress this person was under -- the nature of the flaw or weakness in his personality, together with other elements in the environment that offer him a logical target for his frustrations or escapes from reality -- yields the situation we're discussing. There is no trigger, it is truly more sophisticated than that.”

-“I'm as cold a motherfucker as you've ever put your fucking eyes on. I don't give a shit about those people.”

-“… I deserve, certainly, the most extreme punishment society has and society deserves to be protected from me and from others like me, that's for sure.”

[Anonymous No.3130876]

>>3130848
>and loads of other cool shit too:

he manipulated you good

[Anonymous No.3131107]

>>3129763
Not OP but thread also relevant to interests..
Quite interested in Bundy now. Just checked reviews on amazon and first one said, "If you are interested in Bundy there are other books out there that fit the bill better: The Stranger Beside Me, The Deliberate Stranger, and The Only Living Witness."

Have you read any of these, would you agree they are better? I wouldn't wanna miss anything

[Anonymous No.3131111]

>>3130848
>guys im a sociopath look how rational i am

[Anonymous No.3131115]

>>3130876
>he manipulated you good

How did he manipulate me?

[Anonymous No.3131127]

>>3131111
>sociopath

"Sociopath. Noun
so·ci·o·path
One who can see past social structures to an objective viewpoint often hidden by subjective bias. The sociopath places himself above others on the grounds that life is meaningless and as only subjective pleasure can be experienced, it's attainment is paramount. The sociopath also has a life-long struggle against his own to social conditioning, and can occasionally succeed in liberated himself from the shackles of arbitrary social values."

-Oxford English Dictionary

[Anonymous No.3131284]

>>3131107
>>3131107
pls rspnd

[Anonymous No.3131296]

>>3131127
>can occasionally succeed in liberated himself

>succeed in liberated himself

You just made that shit up, didn't you? OED don't contain no grammatical errors.

[Anonymous No.3131303]

>>3131127
This is what retards actually believe.

so·ci·o·path

noun Psychiatry .
a person with a psychopathic personality whose behavior is antisocial, often criminal, and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.

You couldn't kill a person and you know it, your nihilist beliefs mean nothing.

[Anonymous No.3131351]

>>3131303
>You couldn't kill a person and you know it, your nihilist beliefs mean nothing.

You mean kill for pleasure, or on a tour of a middle east country? For pleasure, I don't know. I don't have a real urge to kill anybody for pleasure, it's not my kind of high. If I thought I would enjoy it then I probably would do it. It would be a question of weighing up the legal consequences against the pleasure derived from killing.

[Anonymous No.3131370]

Which is a better read:

The Stranger Beside Me: Ted Bundy The Shocking Inside Story - by Ann Rule
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/15654.The_Stranger_Beside_Me
or
The Only Living Witness: The True Story of Serial Sex Killer Ted Bundy - by Stephen G. Michaud, Hugh Aynesworth, Ted Bundy
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/205662.The_Only_Living_Witness

inb4 both

[Anonymous No.3131407]

>>3131351
fucking idiot

[Anonymous No.3131421]

>>3131407
Mensa disagrees with you.

[Anonymous No.3131432]

>>3131421
AHHAHA thanks for proving my point

>>3131351
Funny, for someone who uses "science" to support his beliefs you implicate that somehow a moral nihilist can disregard all feelings of guilt and shame and make themselves into a sociopath even though that is totally wrong and all true sociopaths either went through an incredible amount of abuse when young or were born that way genetically.

Every moral nihilist that I've seen on /lit/ has always talked like they are sociopaths.

grow up

[Anonymous No.3131467]

>>3131432
>grow up

By subscribing to your particular brand of perspective? No thanks.

[Anonymous No.3131491]

>>3131467
>muh subjectivity