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Shakespeare stole all his ideas from Montaigne.

Montaigne was better.

>> No.2944604

Shakespear used various folklore and mythology within his plays. If they are parallel to Montaigne's, than they were both playing off the same concepts.
PS- this is a bad troll.
PPS- Sage

>> No.2944606

E.L. James stole her ideas from Stephanie Meyer. Stephanie Meyer is better.

>> No.2944607

no

>> No.2944608

Yeah, because the Odyssey is clearly better than Ulysses.

>> No.2944615

>>2944608
But it is

>> No.2944625

i thought francis bacon?

>> No.2944629

>>2944604
do you even read

>> No.2944637

Hamlet and King Lear were pretty heavily influenced by Montaigne. But Shakespeare ripped off everyone.

>> No.2944642

I heard that Montaigne said that he doesn't read for more than one hour because he tires easily of the written word.

Do you guys know what essay of his that is from?

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>>2944629
Dis nigga are you serious?

>> No.2945841

>>2944642
Probably his essay 'On reading', if it's not there, I'll whip out my montaigne stash and check for you.

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>>2944615

>> No.2945878

>>2944642
>>2945841
Probably "Of Books." Thought it could've been from anything, really. Such a digressive dude.

Anyway, there are some lines of Shakespeare that are pretty directly lifted. Thought, Montaigne himself says:

>I do not number my borrowings, I weigh them; and
had I designed to raise their value by number, I had made them twice as many; they are all, or
within a very few, so famed and ancient authors, that they seem, methinks, themselves
sufficiently to tell who they are, without giving me the trouble. In reasons, comparisons, and
arguments, if I transplant any into my own soil, and confound them amongst my own, I
purposely conceal the author, to awe the temerity of those precipitate censors who fall upon all
sorts of writings, particularly the late ones, of men yet living [. . .] I will have them give Plutarch a fillip on my nose, and rail against Seneca when
they think they rail at me. I must shelter my own weakness under these great reputations.

>> No.2945914

From his essay 'On three kinds of social intercourse':

IN practice I hardly use books more than those who are quite unacquainted with them. I enjoy them as misers do riches: because I know I can always enjoy them whenever I please. My soul is satisfied and contented by this right of possession (cf. Schopenhauers essay On reading) In war as in peace I never travel without books. Yet days and even months on end may pass without my using them. [!] 'I will read them soon', I say 'or tomorrow; or when I feel like it.' Thus the time speeds by and is gone, but does me no harm; for it is impossible to describe what comfort and peace I derive from the thought that they are there beside me, to give me pleasure whenever I want it, or from recognising how much succour they bring to my life. It is the best protection which I have found for our human journey and I deeply pity men of intelligence who lack it.

>> No.2945925

Montaigne's warning:
'Reading has its disadvantages - and they are weighty ones: it exercises the soul, but during that time the body (my care for which I have not forgotten) remains inactive and grows earth-bound and sad. I know of no excess more harmful to me in my declining years, nor more to be avoided.

'In youth I studied in order to show off; later, a little, to make myself wiser; now I do it for amusement, never for profit.