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2920495 No.2920495 [Reply] [Original]

Which philosopher had the biggest balls of them all?

>> No.2920502

Hmmm, I'll have to think about that one .... dialectically.

>> No.2920512

Having monkey balls grafted on was pretty popular practise.

>> No.2920532

Jesus. He basically told everyone what to do, and people listened, because he didn't kid around. He was all like 'you better follow me bitches, or it's an eternity of burning in the pitts of hell, snakes biting your legs. Like seriously, for eternity.'

>> No.2920547
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2920547

Diogenes of Sinope

>> No.2920556

>>2920547
Is it true the cynics would hug statues while naked?

What for?

>> No.2920565

>>2920495

Wittgenstein wrote the TLP as a POW in Italy and killed many for the Kaiser

>> No.2920579

>>2920556
They would hug marble statues in the winter whilst naked. Those things would feel very, very cold. To train in endurance and toughness. In the summer they would roll in warm sand. Learning to endure both hot and cold, one would learn to be content to do without luxuries. One would be free from one more thing.

Diogenes even begged from statues. When someone asked him why, he said he did it so he would become accustomed to not getting anything.

>> No.2920584

>>2920547
Easily.

>> No.2920587
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>> No.2920588

wittgenstein obviously

>> No.2920593

>>2920547

Diogenes was NOT a serious philosopher. We know little to nothing of his thought. Other Cynics like Agrippa we know about but there are only second hand stories about Diogenes antics.

Protogoras, now there is a philosopher with balls. I respect him much more than Socrates and Plato. His thought is more seditious too, because it is correct. Man is indeed the measure of all things.

>> No.2920604

>>2920593

I meant skeptic. The later skeptics give a rationale to the behavior of the early cynics (who didn't leave us with a method to their mayhem).

>> No.2920633

Who had the smallest?

Probably Rousseau.

>> No.2920642

>>2920633

I'd say Benjamin for taking the cowards way out...or Charles Taylor due to his retreat into religion so he doesn't have to deal with thought that challenges his worldview that was indoctrinated from an early age.

>> No.2920647

>>2920565
>>2920588

Wittgenstein certainly adored big balls...

>> No.2920665

>>2920495
Hmmm... in balls terms, Hegel's probably the man. He didn't only had absolute knowledge about the Geist and History: he had the balls to say none in the future could ever had better knowledge about it. It takes a fucking huge pair of balls to say such a thing.

>> No.2920672

>>2920593
>Implying we know lots about Protagoras
I go with Diogenes or Socrates. I'm leaning more towards Socrates.

>> No.2920679

>>2920593
>Man is indeed the measure of all things.

I think Socrates did a pretty good job of proving that was bullshit. That entire statement is an inherent contradiction. What is the measure of that statement?

>> No.2920682

>>2920665

Witty had the same megalomania...He literally thought he solved all the problems of philosophy. Nietzsche also thought he was the antichrist near the end, but he had tertiary syphilis. Still it took balls to stand up for that horse.

>> No.2920684

>>2920682
Wow, you have no idea what you're talking about.

>> No.2920686

>>2920679

It is a ladder you throw away once you climb. Plus perspectivism, pragmatism, and post modernism are much more dominant philosophic paradigms than platonic idealism and realism in current thought. He disproved nothing.

>> No.2920688

>>2920684

What? Wittgenstein did think he that solved all problems of philosophy after TLP. This is common knowledge.

It is also common knowledge that at the end N thought he was the antichrist and that at the beginning of his decline he through his arms around a horse being whipped in Trento...

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2920690

>Confusing Hubris with Balls

Stirner dismantled Hegel.
Wittgenstein came to the point of basically admitting the same shit as Kant.
The correct answer is Schopenhauer.

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>Look at Stirner, look at him, the peaceful enemy of all constraint.
>For the moment, he is still drinking beer,
>Soon he will be drinking blood as though it were water.
>When others cry savagely "down with the kings"
>Stirner immediately supplements "down with the laws also."
>Stirner full of dignity proclaims;
>You bend your willpower and you dare to call yourselves free.
>You become accustomed to slavery
>Down with dogmatism, down with law.

>> No.2920695

>>2920688
No, Wittgenstein always thought he'd got shit wrong. It was the logical positivists masturbating over TLP that thought he'd solved everything. And Nietzsche wrote a book called Der Antichrist, but that's not the same as calling himself the Antichrist.

>> No.2920706

>>2920686
How can man be the measure of all things if that implicates that the statement is a false positive. The statement is paradoxical in language. If man is the measure of all things then all men can measure that statement to be nothing or to not measure it at all. The statement has no meaning in language. Is it about Dasein?

>> No.2920713

>>2920695
>Wittgenstein concluded that with the Tractatus he had resolved all philosophical problems.

I'm not the guy but you are a moron. Wittgenstein did infact assert he had solved all philosophical problems.

>> No.2920718

>>2920713
All metaphysical traditional problems. If he had, in fact, solved ALL philosophical problems with the tractatus then there was no need to continue with his investigations.

>> No.2920719

>>2920695
Did he not see himself as the antichrist in a sense, being against idols and putting heaven in the way of the present or exalting.anything above earthly reality? At least the (a) antichrist from a Christian's pov?

>> No.2920722

>>2920718
>If he had, in fact, solved ALL philosophical problems

No one is saying he was correct in his assertion. Stop being so insecure.

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>>2920695

Bud, after the publication of TLP. Wittgenstein left Oxford to teach in Austria because he had believed all problems of philosophy to have been solved. He later came back after realizing he got it wrong. This is common knowledge or perhaps my professors at NYU were wrong but I highly doubt that.

Also from (SEoP): "In 1920 Wittgenstein, now divorced from philosophy (having, to his mind, solved all philosophical problems in the Tractatus), gave away his part of his family's fortune and pursued several “professions” (gardener, teacher, architect, etc.) in and around Vienna."

Nietzsche's incoherent letters at the end of his life indicate that he DID think he was the antichrist (amoung other things). Of course I know he wrote a book called the antichrist.

"During the few days after his breakdown, Nietzsche wrote seemingly psychotic letters to a number of friends and various figures of European royalty. These letters are called the Wahnbriefe or Madness Letters, and he signed them alternatively as “Dionysus” or “The Crucified.” The Nietzsche Channel has an archive of all of these letters in their original German, but generally they focus on a hedonistic understanding of humanity, and call for the death of the Pope, Wilhelm, Bismark, Stöcker, and “all the anti-semites.” These alarmingly unhinged letters worried their recipients so much that within a week, Nietzsche’s family came to Turin and brought him back to Basel, where he was hospitalized and diagnosed with the syphilis that would generally be blamed for his mental decay."

>> No.2920728

>>2920722
I was talking about what Wittgenstein said. Also, you can fuck off with your psychoanalytical bullshit.

>> No.2920784

hegel is a moron; at least that's what jacob bronowski told me.

>> No.2920834

>>2920706

It makes sense if you adhere to the coherence theory of truth instead of the correspondence theory of truth. Man is the measure of all things means that truth is relative to perspective. It may be the only transperspectival truth. Nietzsche identifies this as the Will to Power (in a cosomological/ontological fashion). In other news...who shaves the barber, my logical friend?