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Are there any books that will really rattle my world, and perhaps change my perspective/approach to life?

I'm talking something complex, yet easy enough to interpret without having to bury myself in some convoluted crap that no one fully understands.

>> No.2903263

Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance.

>> No.2903266

watch waking life instead

you will need to watch it while high at least twice

>> No.2903275

I think White Noise by Don DeLillo would be right up your alley. It certainly has the complexity to qualify as "real literature", but it's also a supremely fun and funny read.

>> No.2903278

>>2903266
That movie is wank.
Absolute housewife philosophy.
>>2903263
And I already did, and I liked it a lot. In fact, I was hoping for more reccomendations along those lines.

>> No.2903282

Freedom From The Known - J. krishnamurti

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>>2903278
>he can't into waking life

>> No.2903288

Perhaps Steppenwolf? This would be easier if I knew what sort of perspective/approach you have, but whatever/

>> No.2903289

Ishmael

>> No.2903299

>>2903278

It's an enjoyable film.

Whether or not the philosophy is new or profound is irrelevant. It's poignant, and that's all it needs to be.

I pity people who paint the world with austerity.

>> No.2903334

>>2903288
Leaning towards absurdist, but then I never had any real approach near as I can tell.

>> No.2903450

Flatland

>> No.2903567

>>2903278
>dislikes Waking Life, loves Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance

you are the biggest faggot i've met this month on /lit/ and that's saying something

>> No.2903572

>>2903567

Both of those things suck and you suck worse.

>> No.2903588

>>2903567

Waking Life is way overrated and really pretty bad. Zen & the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance is also overrated, but also is not bad.

>> No.2903624

Perhaps a fiction about Eutopia or dystopia? I am thinking about 1984 (but you've probably read it already), Farenheit 451 (then again, très mainstream) or Brave New World? These have changed my views on life at least.

>> No.2903654

Sex at Dawn, Christopher Ryan

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Also:

Evola - Ride the Tiger
Junger - Eumeswil
She Lao - Rickshaw

>> No.2903856

Fifty Shades of Gray

>> No.2903868

>>2903856
Really other than being a troll, how does that rattle someones world / change perspective / approach to life?

>> No.2903880

Nietzshe - Beyond Good and Evil

Although it might not be completely easy to understand it's one of the few books that ever changed my perspective in great ways.

>> No.2903897

The Society of the Spectacle by Guy Debord
Monadology by G.W. Leibniz
Symmetry by Herman Weyl
An Essay Concerning Human Understanding by John Locke

>> No.2903900

>>2903868
The fact that this book got published should truly show you what it takes to be a writer.

>> No.2903913

>>2903900
To be a good writer it takes lots of hard work and rejections from publishers.
To be a popular writer, write what ever you feel like, find a collection of people say 10,000 to "like" it on a forum somewhere. Show likes to publisher, allow them to change 14% of the book so that it appears to a larger demographic is an "original" work and allow their marketers, spruke it to desperate housewives.

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2903957

Haven't gotten to Beyond Good and Evil, but Thus Spoke Zarathustra is definitely the most profound book I have read.

>> No.2903966

>>2903957

what do you think the best translation is?

>> No.2903977

Siddartha
Franny and Zooey
Ishmael

>> No.2903998

World War Z

>> No.2904008

>>2903966

I read a newish Barnes and Noble translation by Clancy Martin. She says that she tried to reconcile the Commons and Kaufmann translations. Just a couple mistakes, but it seemed good. She kept Ubermensch untranslated which I kind of liked.

If I were to get a new copy to read again, I'd probably go with Kaufmann simply because I've enjoyed reading what he has to say about Nietzsche in his writings on him, and he is the most highly recommended - the Kaufmann translation was checked out back when I was looking for it, leading me to the Martin translation.

>> No.2904045

Hate to say it, but it's Stirner's Der Einzige und Sein Eigenthum.

>> No.2904048

Read this article. http://www.messagefrommasters.com/Meditation/Advanced/life_is_purposeless.htm

>> No.2904054

>>2904048
Also Ethics of Ambiguity

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>> No.2904119

Atlas Shrugged - everyone should give this a go(don't be a faggot and judge it before reading it)

>> No.2904152

>>2904119
I consider Libertarianism a bankrupt ideology, despite reading much on the subject.

Is there still value to reading the book?

>> No.2904196

The Grand Inquisitor Chapter of the Brothers Karamazov

>> No.2904199

Godel Escher Bach

>> No.2904201

>>2904048
I have my Eastern influences, don't get me wrong. But I don't believe possessions are a problem in themselves--sure in the sense they are conceived as absolutes they are bad, just not inherently.

"DON'T accumulate anything whatever: power, money, prestige, virtue, knowledge, even the so-called spiritual experiences...the fear of death comes out of the accumulations of life"
I'm not in agreement with that initial part (I'm not assuming you are or are not either though). Some things are nice (material and immaterial), of course like all things, in moderation and to taste, simply not as absolute pejoratives imo (all though id say love and some other emotions are, for me at least). You could argue because I've been socialised as a westerner, but the Buddhists themselves only step from one cave to the next.

And I think the only reason why, as he seems to say too, is because of the things I lose. But why's that a problem, it seems pretty natural to me. Life shouldn't be lived with pure reason, emotion is pretty damn important as well

>> No.2904202

>>2904196

I've heard this chapter alone is the god-tier of god-tier.

>> No.2904203

Test

>> No.2904204

The Stranger by Albert Camus, really short as well.

>> No.2904209

>>2904201
>cont.
prerogative*
knew this word but not the other, learnt something new today :)

>> No.2904217

>>2904202
It is, but that whole book is fucking fantastic. So many god-tier chapters. I would argue that Ivan and The Devil and a few other discussion passages in that book are just as fantastic. I hope the feels of that book never leave me and if they ever really do, then it's time for a reread.

>> No.2904222

>>2904217

Yeah. I need to get back into some great fiction.

>> No.2904374

The Book: On the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are by Alan Watts.

>> No.2904440

Evolution by Stephen Baxter kinda changed my view on life

It's a very good book but it's interesting

>> No.2904441

>Dialectic of Enlightenment
>Walden
>Nausea

>> No.2904506

Chaos by James Gleick and, I guess, something about postmodern philosophy. Nietzsche is good too.