Post-Colonial Literature

[Winky No.2900382]

Recently I have been reading Jean Rhys' Wide Sargasso Sea, which is clearly a classic in Post-Colonial literature.

When reading it, I got myself wondering: are there many Colonial literature appreciators here other than myself? Not the average old romance that takes part in the XIXth century England, but in its colonies or even other colonised lands of the world.

Two books I remember that marked me were Isaura the Slave Girl and The Painted Veil. The first one focuses on the life of the Western slaves; and the second one mostly on the life of neo-colonialist China in the 1920s.

[Anonymous No.2900401]

I had to read that book in 12th grade AP Lit, and I HATED it.

Did you read Jany Eyre before? The book is literally nothing more than a romance fanfiction written before the internet existed.

The author took characters she hadn't created, and took all the mystery out of what was a somewhat interesting character from Jane Eyre.

I don't see how anyone could enjoy that book.

[Winky No.2900451]

>>2900401

Well, I understand the book itself lacks a lot of coherence with Jane Eyre, of course, and the story is not very interesting, but what attracked me to it is the cultural and historical background, as most books do.

I usually ignore novels' stories and focus on the society. But you must understand that is is a prequel - and writing prequels is a really hard task. The author took a risk and it must not be thrown away.

[Anonymous No.2900462]

I actually greatly enjoy postcolonial lit. Right now, my focus is on Japanese postcolonial lit (Korean, Taiwanese, etc who write about Japanese colonial atmosphere during and post-war). I also am currently researching the attraction of postcolonial writers to the bildungsroman genre and the search for identity in modern times

[Anonymous No.2900501]

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>>2900462
Me again. Is there any particular era or area of colonial lit you like? (the works you mentioned all sound interesting at least. When I studied British lit, we seemed to focus solely on African writers' postcolonial lit

[Winky No.2900508]

>>2900462
How has that been? I haven't had time to catch up with East Asian literature lately.

My reads on postcolonial literature are very limited to Brazilian and a few English books from the 19th century. Luckily, I got enough to understand at least what it was like in the West Indies, China or Portuguese America.

[Anonymous No.2900516]

really liked some of v s naipauls books.

a bend in the river is particularily good

[Anonymous No.2900519]

Is there any good literature about what's going on in south africa and zimbabwe? You know, the ritualized torture, rape and killing of whole white families on farms. The other day a group of proud black warriors drowned a little white boy in boiling water, after they had raped and killed his family in front of him (well, of course!). The whole thing is dying to be written about, if for nothing else but the astounding creativity the Diversities employ to Check waitu piggo's Privilege.

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>>2900519
bawww

[Anonymous No.2900533]

>>2900508
I find it to be very interesting. a lot of scholars tend to focus on Western colonial lit, and East Asian colonialism is often ignored. Works I highly recommend are:
Orphan of Asia (Wu Zhuoliu)
The Curious Tale of Mandogi's Ghost (Kim Sok-pom)
Lost Names (Richard Kim)

A lot of authors focus on similar ideas in postcolonial identity (such as where do I belong in this world and discrimination--much similar to other postcolonial bildungsroman). I wonder if these writers use the coming of age genre as a protest against society in this sense

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>>2900528
Honestly, I tried to write something similarly snarky and vapid as a response to your post, but I just can't manage it.

[Anonymous No.2900539]

>>2900537
cool story bro

[Anonymous No.2900545]

>>2900528
>big·ot (b g t). n. One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

Check the thread premise. Post-colonial literature. It didn't specify only post-colonial literature where whitey is the devil and everybody else are angels.

[Anonymous No.2900554]

Any good books about the total genocide on Haiti of everyone who wasn't pitch black? A bunch of the people in here would enjoy this bit of history. Every single non-black woman and girl gang raped and butchered, and every single non-black man and boy tortured and killed.

[Anonymous No.2900557]

I hate the label "Post-colonial literature." For me, postcolonialism is an (appropriately politicized) interpretive approach to literature. For instance, I wouldn't call Spring Snow postcollit, but it would certainly be interesting to analyze the ambivalent attitudes towards western culture being adopted in Japan from a postcolonial perspective (cultural imperialism, rather than socio-political imperialism).

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>>2900554
>genocide

I'm white and I'm still here bro

[Anonymous No.2900561]

>>2900382

you got a mediafire link bro?

[Winky No.2900563]

>>2900545
That sounds like a good topic to cover. Probably, because of the lack of media coverage of Southern African (not to be confused with South African) literature, but Wide Sargasso Sea kind of shows that. In the beginning of the book, a white family living in Jamaica is constantly harassed by the blacks of the island - they're called white niggers, black Englishman, etc.

At some point, their house gets burnt as well as destroyed.

>>2900533
When I read The Painted Veil I expected it to be a very typical post-colonial book, but it was different. To me, although there is a love story behind it all, I did what I usually do to old novels and ignored completely the story to focus on the historical background. It actually describes what it felt like for the Chinese middle class and people who enrichened out of the Asian trade boom (especially near Gangzhou and Hong Kong) and how acute were the differences between the English and the Chinese.

[Anonymous No.2900564]

>>2900558
Confirmed for racist bigot. See >>2900545 again, it even includes the definition for you.

>>2900559
Confirmed for clueless about Haiti's history.

[Winky No.2900574]

>>2900561

I wish I did. Unfortunately, since it is not public domain, I did not find any to download. My English teacher borrowed me hers.

[Anonymous No.2900577]

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>>2900563

I thought they were Creole. Although they were culturally white, the legal apparatus did not consider them as such because of the "fractional laws" that called you coloured if you had so much as 1/64th of African/Amerindian blood in you.

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>>2900577
Jesus Christ, cool it with all your butthurt projection bro.

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>>2900577
Are you on a mission to confirm every stereotype ever held about you privilege checking racist bigots? Well, feel proud. Che loves you, bro (except if you're not white or mestizo, he was a racist fucker and the hipsters promoting his likeness are totally clueless about history, as usual).

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>>2900587
>YOU'RE SO ASSPAINED BRO, JUST SO ASSPAINED, I TOTALLY KNOW YOU'RE ASSPAINED, I'M JUST GOING TO TELL YOU HOW MUCH YOU'RE ASSPAINED BECAUSE YOU ARE AND I KNOW IT.

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>>2900590
>>2900593

[Winky No.2900601]

>>2900580
Annette was a white Jamaican woman born in Martinique. You might be confusing them with the creole nurse Christophine from Martinique as well.

[Anonymous No.2900605]

Thread derailed by 12 year old racist bigot, so going to get it back on track. Post-colonial literature is pretty interesting.

So again, any good books about the total genocide on Haiti of everyone who wasn't pitch black? A bunch of the people in here would enjoy this bit of history. Every single non-black woman and girl gang raped and butchered, and every single non-black man and boy tortured and killed.

[Anonymous No.2900612]

>>2900605
>all those poor peeple.. oh the humnity!!

[Anonymous No.2900619]

>>2900612
Honestly, at this point I can't tell if you're a stormfag trolling as a leftist or you really are just this fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.2900615]

>>2900519
>asking a question of some relevance to the thread
>saging
One day I will understand you /pol/acks. Maybe. But anyway, apparently a woman called Catherine Buckle has written books on what happened in Zimbabwe. Maybe try that?

[Anonymous No.2900621]

>>2900615
>bitching about saging on /lit/

[Anonymous No.2900627]

>>2900621
No bitching, just confused. I mean, if you're honestly asking a question, and would like an answer, why sage?

[Anonymous No.2900633]

>>2900605
Don't know, but the wikipedia entry on it might be a starting point for you. Let us know if you find any novels.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1804_Haiti_Massacre

[Anonymous No.2900646]

>>2900615
>asking a question of some relevance to the thread
>saging
It seemed to strike a nerve with the 12 year old.

Any way. Personally, I like the finer points of the raping, torturing and killing of white farmer families in modern post-colonial Africa. You'd be surprised at the enlightening lessons you can get from it, such as how you can pour bleach into every crevice of the white farmer's wife for maximum post-colonial healing. Or of how the children can be raped in front of their parents as a powerful racial metaphor for the oppression the devilish whitey has inflicted on our lands with his patriarchal infrastructure and segregation.

[Anonymous No.2900656]

>>2900646
Uh... you gonna talk about books, buddy? Or just sit there jerking off to the rape scenes in your head?

If it's the second, try /b/.

[Anonymous No.2900658]

>>2900516
came here to reccommend 'a bend in the river' also.
Definately one of my favorite Naipaul novels. Naipaul is analytical and thoroghly unsentimental and consequently, he is rather pessimistic about Africa's resurgence with the end of colonialism, contrary to what many liberal reformers at the time believed.
The prose is pretty good too

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>>2900658
Not sure what counts as post-colonial, but that description reminded me of Chinua Achebe's Anthills of the Savannah. Revolutionary anti-colonial hero becomes oppressive dictator... works very nicely.

[Anonymous No.2900681]

>>2900663
I pretty sure he's masturbating, not crying.

[Anonymous No.2900682]

>>2900681
>I'm

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>>2900656
Yeah, sorry, I should have been more detailed. The way I do it is I take a class or two of black studies to get me fired up, then I go home to my loving ebony queen Shamaleequa and together we read post-colonial lit with these accounts out to our beautiful ebony children. After a session of fantasizing about giving whitey's what's comin' as our proud ancestors have done, we all put on our Che t-shirts and check our Privileges. I, naturally, check my male privilege, with the help of my loving ebony queen. Then we check Lamar's height privilege and Lemarck's learning privilege. In conclusion we all check our CIS privilege and then we tuck in for the night, satisfied that we have done our part to stem the tide of racist white males that are surely lurking outside waiting for a chance to hang our children from trees.

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>>2900689
life sounds good

[Anonymous No.2900705]

>>2900689
>we read post-colonial lit
The best part of your shitposting is that you still don't know the names of any books or authors.

Also
>you will never have a loving ebony queen called Shamaleequa
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>>2900705
That's racist. Obviously the mental image of a strong black family got your white supremacist gung-ho goin'.

[Anonymous No.2900738]

>post-colonial lit thread
>/lit/ manages 6 posts before the thread becomes a car crash

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[Anonymous No.2900755]

>>2900738
Eh, we're still having fun.

[Anonymous No.2900774]

>mfw someone thought colonization was a bad thing near me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyJFRTJgPbU

[Anonymous No.2900775]

>>2900382
Joseph Conrad kicks ass. That is all.

>>2900738
The best part is, it's not even a post-colonial lit thread. If you actually read the OP, it's about colonial lit. But nobody ever said /pol/trolls could read.

[Anonymous No.2900790]

>>2900774

Finally figured out how to post in the right thread? You'll learn, newfriend. You'll learn.

[Anonymous No.2900797]

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>>2900797
>When reading it, I got myself wondering: are there many Colonial literature appreciators here other than myself?

>Colonial literature

reading comprehension bro, it's important

[Anonymous No.2900804]

I remember having to read Said when I was in uni a few years back and not really being impressed... recently I picked up a copy of 'culture and imperialism' and was pleasantly suprised. I don't agree with everything he said but it was lucid and well written

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>>2900790

Status:
[] Told
[] Super-Told
[X] Leo Told-stoy

[Anonymous No.2900817]

>>2900807
>still not reading the OP
Christ, nobody on 4chan embarasses themselves quite as spectacularly as /pol/skis.

[Anonymous No.2900818]

>>2900807
>Infinite Jest
>it's about endless jokes

>White Noise
>it's about pleasant background sounds

>The Catcher in the Rye
>it's about a baseball player in a field of wheat

[Anonymous No.2900823]

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[Anonymous No.2900822]

>>2900817
OP put "Post-Colonial Literature" down as the subject of his thread bro

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>>2900822
Yes, and what question did he ask?

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>>2900818
>Discipline & Punish
>there's not even any good sex

that's one mistake I'll never make again

[Anonymous No.2900839]

>>2900807
>>2900797
>this picture I made in gimp validates my idiocy

[Anonymous No.2900840]

53/63 posts itt are off topic and of low quality

goodnight

[Anonymous No.2900842]

>>2900835
Try The History of Sexuality.

[Anonymous No.2900846]

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>>2900840
>53/63 posts itt are off topic and of low quality

>goodnight

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[Anonymous No.2900872]

>>2900865
>/lit/ is just one person

where are you from, /v/?

[Anonymous No.2900882]

>>2900872

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>>2900882
so you're a retard, or are you just pretending?

[Anonymous No.2900919]

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[Anonymous No.2900925]

>The best part is, it's not even a post-colonial lit thread

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[Anonymous No.2900932]

autism: the thread