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Is Derrida a charlatan?
Is Lacan a charlatan?
Is Zizek a charlatan?
Is Deleuze a charlatan?
is Badiou a charlatan?

I'm just wondering if I should disregard their entire bodies of work because they're "pseudointellectuals."
Thanks.

>> No.2894400

Just Derrida.

>> No.2894421

Just Deleuze.

>> No.2894423

You shouldn't disregard any body of work. Charlatanism in intellectual means is not a palpable thing, you either buy it or don't and you'll read a lot of criticizism, but still, you either buy the criticizism or don't. And even when you do, consider for a moment, that a stupid thing said (in whatever conception you have on what is stupid), doesn't mean all is stupid. Chances are you could learn something from them and if you doubt that, there is no problem, read something else. But as soon as you disregard them, they become meaningless, because whatever good arguments they might have already escaped you.

>> No.2894513

Yes, all of them. You wouldn't have the background in philosophy or psychology to understand them even if they weren't though.

>> No.2895815

>>2894513
The OP was satire, you idiot. Expand on your impressive psychological-philosophical background, though; where did you study and what was your dissertation on?

>> No.2895817

>>2895815
>The OP was satire, you idiot
ok then, what was it a satire of?

>> No.2895819

>>2895817
He's the OP...

>> No.2895823

No, they're not in any meaningful way charlatans.

>> No.2895824

i don't know but I do love retro asian women.

>> No.2895842

Derrida is okay. Burn the rest.

>> No.2895847

>>2895842
Derrida is actually the worst. I kind of like the other guys, though.

>> No.2895849

>>2895847

He goes too far, but I can dig the basics.

>> No.2895855

Derrida and Zizek suck, but I would not use that definition on them.

Deleuze is all right, just a little hard to understand.

>> No.2895857

>>2895849
He made philosophy really boring, sorry

>> No.2895862

>>2895857

Read better philosophy.

>> No.2895865

I like Zizek and I've read a bit from the field that Derrida set in motion but never anything by himself or any of the others.

>> No.2895873

>>2895855

The thing with Deleuze is that he is difficult, but after the struggle to understand him, there's no payoff. It's like, oh that's what he's saying? That's it?

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2895888

I am also sceptical of these fellows and haven't got into them... What are some of their ideas, a few bulletpoints?

>> No.2895928

I'm not very familiar with any of them. The little I've read of Derrida just seemed rather trivial and uninteresting to me. The little I know of Lacan strongly leads me to think he is a charlatan.

I'm uncomfortable with the idea of dismissing somebody wholesale without even reading him though.

>> No.2895945

Derrida is a prankster. He is trolling academia and playing word games to show how stupid academia is. He's a clever troll, not a charlatan.

Zizek is alright. Not quite a charlatan. Works best in youtube format, understands that he is as much a clown as he is a philosopher.

Lacan is a charlatan. We only remember him because of Zizek.

Deleuze is a total fucking charlatan. Terrible stuff.

Not familiar enough with Badiou.

>> No.2895969

They're all the result of leftism's degeneration into a religion. Their writings are valuable to the dedicated believer, but irrelevant to anyone else.

>> No.2896003

Read Bataille instead
I swear if ANYONE calls Bataille a charlatan

>> No.2896158

>>2896003
The biggest charlatan of them all. Writes from passion and parrots Nietzsche.

>> No.2896165

kind of but plenty of worth
fuck yes
a funny guy, a smattering of intellectual worth
no
havent read sorry

>> No.2896907

>>2895873

That's a pretty good way to put it.

Same can be said for a lot of philosophy of that era, though.