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Which current books/authors will be remembered as classics in 100 years time?

Harry Potter will most definitely be remembered as one of the most important Children's Books in the same vein as Alice's Adventure In Wonderland or The Little Prince.

I think Cormac McCarthy (Especially The Road and Blood Meridian) will be remembered for a while, hell I even saw Blood Meridian in the modern classics section of a book store.

Ian McEwan and David Mitchell are also possible contenders.

>> No.2875963

Pynchon
DFW

>> No.2876028

Blood Meridian
Suttree
Mason & Dixon
Infinite Jest

>> No.2876030

>>2875963
Only one of them. You know which one.

>> No.2876034

Thomas Ruggles Pynchon

>> No.2876036

Eggers

Whether /lit/ likes it or not

(His latest book is actually really good)

>> No.2876062

salman rushdie most likely since all those faggy jihadists threw a shit fit about it in the 80s and it'll give the litfags alot to write about in their final essays/ journal articles

It has nothing to do with feelings or emotions provoked by the story, it's just the rise Rushdie got out of his audience that people like Satanic Verses

>> No.2877934

only pynchon

>> No.2877960

Blood Meridian by McCarthy
Gravity's Rainbow by Pynchon
Disgrace by Coetzee

Other than that, it's a toss-up.

>> No.2877962

Dragonlance

>> No.2877967

>>2875956
David Foster Wallace
Thomas Pynchon
Phillip Roth

>> No.2877970

>>2877967
Why Philip Roth?

>> No.2877972

Maybe some Pynchon, maybe some DFW.
Probably not McCarthy.
Vollman should be, Roth maybe.

>>2876062
Probably not Rushdie.

>> No.2877973

That feel when I'm writing a paper on The Road, and its beauty and complexity is impressing me.

Cormac is my dog, and he is one of the few lone authors of contemporary society with any fucken merit.

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You shall deal with it.

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2877980

Why the fuck are there so many roaches in a thread with Cormac?

>> No.2877984

>>2877970
You misspelled David Foster Wallace, Anon

>> No.2877990

>>2877980
No Anon, you are the roaches.

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>>2877974

>> No.2878008

I would bet on Neil Gaiman,
and depending on how far back we're going I would argue Alan Moore, but it's definitely up for debate. Some of his novels are already considered modern classics because comics are (and I think this goes without saying) a less heavily experienced medium

>> No.2878019

>>2878008
For comic book artists, the best bet is probably Chris Ware, a lot more so than Gaiman and Moore, IMO. In fact, there are already several literary authors citing Chris Ware as an influence.

>> No.2878021

Nobody in this thread mentions Don DeLillo's White Noise? One of the most biting satires and insightful examinations of postmodern American culture to ever grace the page?

Fuck this illiterate board and its bullshit.

>> No.2878025

>>2878021
It's becasue they realize Underworld is better, duh

>> No.2878028

>>2878021
Yes, people here have read DeLillo.
He probably won't be read either.

>> No.2878034

>>2878021
>Nobody in this thread mentions Don DeLillo's White Noise?

No, YOU did. The point of conversation isn't to wait for someone to say what you think. Fuck your sage.

>> No.2878035

>>2878019
Well I was referring to Moore and Gaiman as comic book and novel writers, not so much the actual artists.

>> No.2878047

>>2878035
Fair point. Comic books are usually collaborative works, so it can be uncertain whether the primary author is the writer or the artist. I just think Chris Ware has a much greater control over the medium than their works show, and is thus more likely to be remembered.

>> No.2878050

I think American Gods, in 50 years, will be one of those handful of books that are commonly read in high school, similar to Gatsby today.

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>>2878021
>>2878028
>>2878034
De'Lillo is a whore, pure and simple.

Every read his book "Falling Man"? Huge piece of shit. Prose is clunky. Subject matter is terrible. Second chapter starts off with "the whole world is sex", are you fucking kidding me?

>> No.2878060

>>2878050
As much as I respect that notion, I can't imagine the fags at my high school struggling through a single page of American Gods.

>> No.2878062

>>2878052
>Had to read Falling Man for a college course
>Entire class loved it - perhaps it's because prof made it known that he has a hard on for DeLillo

I felt like I was taking crazy pills.

>> No.2878066

>>2878062
A-are you in my class?

>> No.2878072

>>2878066
I don't know. Do you frequent fall courses at Maryville?

>> No.2878073

>>2878060
Man, you don't give people enough credit.

>> No.2878076

Neil Gaiman is entertaining, but he's not that great a writer, guys

>> No.2878080

>>2878073
This is probably true,
but,
you haven't seen my high school

>> No.2878083

>>2878072
N-no.

Still, same shit happened to me this summer. Prof, who I really respect and like, and who is a very young doctor in literature, had it on the syllabus.

He made us discuss whether or not 9/11 can be considered art. Which was a fascinating and thought provoking question to discuss. The book however in itself, sucked ass.

Out of the 5 books we had to read this semester, only two were enjoyable, and the other three were god awful (in my opinion).

>> No.2878088

>>2878083
Sounds quite similar to my course. What other books did you read?

I read that insufferable Jonathan Safran Foer novel.
A Disorder Peculiar to the Country (shit)
Some other book I don't remember about some bitch with a twin sister (shit)
The Road (great)

And maybe something else too. I try not to remember.

>> No.2878091

>>2878088
>I read that insufferable Jonathan Safran Foer novel.

Which one? They're both insufferable

>> No.2878096

>>2878091
You're right. My mistake. The one about 9/11 - Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close. Something about precocious children really rustles my jimmies.

>> No.2878099

>>2878088
Jeffery Eugenides, The Marriage Plot (shit)
Cormac McCarthy, The Road (Excellent)
Don DeLillo, Falling Man (shit)
Junot Diaz, The Brief Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao (fun)
Jonathan Lethem, The Fortress of Solitude (self-indulgent shit)

>> No.2878119

>>2877973
First off, it's dawg, second, I was under the impression that absolute simplicity was the point of the novel.

>> No.2878142

>>2878060
Anyone who actually struggles through American Gods needs to be taken outside and shot.

>>2878019
Moore will be remembered as the first major author to write comic books with an eye towards semiotics.

>> No.2878164

>>2878119
The Road is pretty damn complex.

>> No.2878173

>>2878164
How so?

>> No.2878189

McCarthy for sure.

>> No.2878192

How about Paul Auster? The New York Trilogy was an excellent postmodern novel.

>> No.2878193

>>2878142
You're wrong. There is a small niche of comic book fans who really like Moore and Gaiman. You happen to be in that niche so its understandable that you think either of them are consequential, but let me assure you: they're not. No one in academia takes either of them seriously, and academia typically chooses what gets remembered as a "classic".

Harry Potter won't be remembered either. No more than the Gordon Flash series is today.

Cormac and Pynchon are the only obvious choices. DeLillo and Wallace are iffy.

>> No.2878207

>>2878173
Dude I have a paper to write about this....I'm not about to put it into /lit/.

But I'll give you a little bit. There are a lot of references to the bible, and biblical elements (from the old+new testaments) often manifest in interesting ways.

For example, the passage where the man and child have their things robbed from them, and they later catch the man who robbed them. The man, as punishment, decides to do exactly to the thief has done to him, and took everything he owned (even his clothes).

This is an "eye for an eye" mode of justice prevalent in the Old Testament. Where as the son, wants to forgive the thief and give him food (forgiveness, turning the cheek, new testament mentality).

Not just christianity, the Road also has a lot of buddhist philosophy in it as well.


SO MANY THINGS TO TALK ABOUT

>> No.2878228

>>2878207
Dude, I like The Road and all, but that is a very tenuous connection to the Bible you're drawing.

>> No.2878236

>>2878228
I have mountains of evidence yuh moron.

The quote "curse god and die" is in The Road as well. That quote is taken directly from the book of Job.

That is undeniable evidence that the Bible is integral to the text.

Eat shit and die roach.

>> No.2878238

>>2878228
>>2878207
The code of Hammurabi is a part of the Bible now, apparently

>> No.2878247

>>2878193
I didn't say anything about Gaiman, and I'm certain that Watchmen was quite well-received among the academics. Definitely not Moore in general, just Watchmen, for the expert way it plays with signs and symbols.

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>>2878238
You look here:>>2878236

WUT NOW NIGGA!?!

>> No.2878271

>>2878247
Basically what I'm saying is that if Ware gets remembered then so will Watchmen and Moore by extension.

>> No.2878273

>>2878228
>>2878238
That's right you stupid roaches, you scuttle away! Scuttle away like the stupid roaches that you are! Yes the scuttle will not aid you however, because I will crush you beneath my superior foot! Then the scuttles will cease, for you will be no more...able to scuttle!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX4Bgdr9Kl0

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>> No.2878289

>>2878273
What are these roaches I keep hearing about?