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Winky Tue, Jul 31, 2012 10:55:52 No.2857450 [Reply] [Original]

What's up with all the new generation of readers?
All I see are people around reading shit like Assassin's Creed, Nicholas Sparks, Stephenie Meyer, Paulo Coelho, R.R. Martin, etc.

Not to mention the sterotypical teen books.

Where are the classics? Where's good literature? Did the Cultural Industry really do that all?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 31, 2012 10:57:52 No.2857451 >>2857450 >Implying this hasn't been said since the beginning of human culture.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 31, 2012 11:00:52 No.2857453 This thread again. Every single day. Bread and circuses + literacy = readable bread and circuses. Please delete your thread.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 31, 2012 11:00:52 No.2857456 http://www.the-tls.co.uk/tls/reviews/fiction/

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 31, 2012 11:02:53 No.2857459 It's been covered to death, people still do read classics but they often don't talk about them because they don't want to seem like know-it-alls.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 31, 2012 11:11:56 No.2857485 As opposed to teenagers in the 50's who exclusively read Dostoevsky and Homer

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 31, 2012 11:11:56 No.2857486 >whines about a lack of interest in high art >posts a reaction shot from Scrubs You guys seriously crack me up.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 31, 2012 11:13:27 No.2857490 >>2857451 This. Lowest common denominator is universal. Good literature has always been essentially elitist, and it always will be. Don't hate the popular reader, though. We need them monetarily. Let them be.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 31, 2012 11:39:58 No.2857552 I think we need a new recommendation jpeg in the wiki, one for entry level stuff. Too many of the people here equate entry level with shit tier. I've been thinking of a list, but haven't gotten too far with it yet.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 31, 2012 11:41:58 No.2857558 >>2857552 Yeah, that's what /lit/ needs. More pointless laundry lists of shit to read without any commentary or analysis of the works.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 31, 2012 11:49:30 No.2857573 >>2857451 /thread

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 31, 2012 11:51:32 No.2857577 >Shit >Posts Scrubs image I don't see the problem. A lot of people read for fun, not to intentionally turn themselves into a special little snowflake.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 31, 2012 12:00:32 No.2857590 >>2857450 We have had penny blood since the 19th century. I'm fairly sure there were horrible books before, too.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 31, 2012 12:13:34 No.2857621 >>2857558 >>2857558 >>2857558

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 31, 2012 21:53:58 No.2859537 File: 264 KB, 270x401, elric-covers.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2857450 Agreed. Reporting in with collections of the classics (see pic).

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 31, 2012 22:05:47 No.2859553 Alot of the old time classics are difficult to read for one just getting into literature. They prefer the listless approach void of strenuous neural activity simply to seem cultured.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 31, 2012 22:08:47 No.2859557 >new generation of readers I'd say at least 1 in 10 people on /lit/ right now are 16

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 31, 2012 22:20:51 No.2859574 The stigmatization of intellectualism is nothing new.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 31, 2012 22:20:52 No.2859572 >>2857450 It is really bad that i think that R.R. Martin doesn't suck?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 31, 2012 22:21:51 No.2859576 B-but I really like Game of Thrones ;_;

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 31, 2012 22:23:51 No.2859583 >>2859574 This. I am honestly afraid of talking about books with most of my friends for fear of coming off like a try-hard. Call in insecurity, but that's just hey way it is. And I know I'm not alone in this.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 31, 2012 22:27:53 No.2859589 >>2859583 You're not alone. My friends are the same way, except one or two of them.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 31, 2012 22:27:53 No.2859590 File: 602 KB, 320x213, 382.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Modern literature is a product of Jewish hegemony.

Anonymous Tue, Jul 31, 2012 22:30:54 No.2859606

Reading literature will not make you smarter in any measureable way, it's for entertainment. Maybe some of those teenagers will read /lit/ approved books when they get older, maybe they won't. What does it even matter? If you're worried about there being no "good" writers then why not become one? I'll tell you why, because you're a talentless killjoy who tries to gain intelligence by association with geniuses.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 31, 2012 22:41:58 No.2859630 >>2857451 No really you guys: /thread

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 31, 2012 23:24:20 No.2859755 >>2859590 citation needed,

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 31, 2012 23:28:13 No.2859764 It's signifier over the signified. People would rather be seen reading a book than develop the mental capacity required to comprehend the kind of literature that doesn't read like a television show.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 1, 2012 03:19:08 No.2860385 Do spoilers work on this board?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 1, 2012 03:29:10 No.2860406 What's worse? People reading lowest common denominator trash, or not reading at all?

>>	sage sage Wed, Aug 1, 2012 03:33:09 No.2860411 >>2860385 sage >>2860406 It depends. Do they vote?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 1, 2012 04:06:18 No.2860479 >>2859572 > It is really bad that i think that R.R. Martin doesn't suck? If you're over 18 years old -- yes, it is. Martin is lowest-common-denominator crap.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 1, 2012 04:18:19 No.2860491 god forbid people enjoy themselves by reading books they want to read.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 1, 2012 04:30:21 No.2860505 ITT: my opinions > your opinions

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 1, 2012 05:17:04 No.2860580 >>2857450 dad-literature is for faggots

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 1, 2012 05:23:30 No.2860591 >>2860580 >dad-literature This doesn't work out of /mu/ without you sounding like a massive faggot.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 1, 2012 05:31:30 No.2860600 >>2860479 to be fair, you don't read his books for the prose. You read it for the tweests.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 1, 2012 05:52:33 No.2860623 >>2857459 Fucking this. I hate when people ask me what kind of books I read. At best I can talk about ASOIAF 9because I liked that series, deal with it). It can sometimes be fun sounding like a pompous douche though.

Anonymous Wed, Aug 1, 2012 06:02:06 No.2860641

I'm 23 and currently reading R. R. Martin books. I love it and can't put the books down and when you just can't put a book down you all know that's one of the best feelings.

Just because I'm reading R R Martin doesn't mean I don't like Hemingway, Dostoyevsky, Joseph Heller or (since I'm portuguese) José Saramago, António Lobo Antunes, Vergílio Ferreira, Gonçalo M. Tavares, Fernando Pessoa... and so on.

Don't be pretentious 'cause it will only make you look like an ass.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 1, 2012 06:03:06 No.2860643 >>2860591 It actually doesn't even work on /mu/ without sounding like a massive faggot

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 1, 2012 06:48:18 No.2860717 >>2857486 Scrubs is god tier comedy. Get some taste.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 1, 2012 06:49:16 No.2860720 >>2860717 >scrubs >god-tier The concept of tiering art is ridiculous, but even it weren't, that's ridiculous.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 1, 2012 06:53:16 No.2860725 Dad-lit , hahaha nice one!

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 1, 2012 07:00:36 No.2860741 The classics and light fiction are not mutually exclusive.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 1, 2012 07:00:36 No.2860743 >>2860641 >when you just can't put a book down you all know that's one of the best feelings. No, that's called addiction, and it's not a positive feeling.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 1, 2012 07:06:34 No.2860749 >>2860743 No, it's obsession. And it can be a positive or a negative feeling, depending on the circumstances and the person.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 1, 2012 07:11:34 No.2860756 >>2860717 >Scrubs is god tier comedy. Get some taste. So many teenagers on this board.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 1, 2012 07:12:34 No.2860759 >>2860756 Why don't you like Scrubs? Is it the sappy music at the end of every episode?

Anonymous Wed, Aug 1, 2012 07:18:35 No.2860767

>>2860759
The characters are archetypes and the episodes try to sprinkle poignancy into plotpoints that simply aren't poignant.

Beyond that, the jokes are repetitive and easy. Oh, look, Dr. Cox called J.D. by a female name again. Oh look, J.D. alluded to the eerily close relationship he has with Turk. Oh look, women are emotional and crazy! This is some good writing!

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 1, 2012 07:21:22 No.2860771 >>2860756 >>2860767 >>2860759 >Won't you take me to >Edgytownnnn

Anonymous Wed, Aug 1, 2012 07:24:23 No.2860777

>>2860767

>The characters are archetypes

Don't see the problem with that.

>and the episodes try to sprinkle poignancy into plotpoints that simply aren't poignant.

True but I watch it for the comedy so this is irrelevant to me.

>Beyond that, the jokes are repetitive and easy. Oh, look, Dr. Cox called J.D. by a female name again. Oh look, J.D. alluded to the eerily close relationship he has with Turk. Oh look, women are emotional and crazy! This is some good writing!

Yeah that sounds like good criticism until you realize you can apply that 'criticism' to every single TV comedy show. Oh look, G.O.B. is being needy and delusional. Oh look, Larry David (or David Brent) is being awkward again. Oh look, Costanza is down on his luck. Oh look, Kramer is talking about some crazy stuff again.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 1, 2012 07:28:22 No.2860787 >>2860777 >you realize you can apply that 'criticism' to every single TV comedy show. Most TV is garbage. Now you know.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 1, 2012 07:32:24 No.2860791 >>2860787 I know most TV is garbage. None of the shows I alluded to are garbage though.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 1, 2012 07:56:29 No.2860823 >>2857450 You imply that this is a new thing. People have always done this. The classics are always the books that have merit, but aren't necessarily read and read by the masses. Deal with it and read what you want.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 1, 2012 07:58:29 No.2860825 >>2860771 >no argument >shout edgy

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 1, 2012 08:04:31 No.2860832 man i thought i would get away from this shit when i finished college /lit/ sucks

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 1, 2012 08:08:03 No.2860851 >>2859606 If course it doesn't make me smarter. That is if I read it like I read 4chan.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 1, 2012 08:09:03 No.2860852 >>2860832 >thread is near universally condemned >/lit/ sucks

>>	sage sage Wed, Aug 1, 2012 08:13:03 No.2860861 Previously on /lit/ >No literature Sage this cancerous if you mean to post on here again you immature bunch of cock hunters.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 1, 2012 08:16:05 No.2860871 Well, have you ever read the star wars expanded universe? ie: the hand of thrawn and the like, it's more of the same, but for girls

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