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Anonymous Tue Jul 31 03:06:27 2012 No.2856502 [Reply] [Original]

Is it me...or has there been a slight influx of quality posting as of late?

On a side note, is toa lin back or something?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 03:08:27 2012 No.2856511 Can we please just stop talking about Tao Lin?

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 03:08:27 2012 No.2856509

The board is creeping back up to its old levels. I've been trying to post more interesting thread topics recently, and it seems like others are doing the same. I doubt Tao's back. DL links to two of his books were posted about a week ago, so people have probably read them and want to talk about them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 04:55:48 2012 No.2856678 File: 20 KB, 289x467, JackieChan.jpg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2856511 no, bc this emerged <--

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 05:01:48 2012 No.2856687 >>2856678 Hahahaha someone actually saved my picture. Greath

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 05:21:38 2012 No.2856714 We need to talk about Tao Lin

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 05:25:40 2012 No.2856717 Throw the Tao Lin

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 05:35:02 2012 No.2856723 I only really started posting recently. There's your explanation.

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 05:49:04 2012 No.2856734
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Can anyone post the reason why they like Tao Lin or hate him?

All the time there is a Tao Lin thread they post the same pictures of him constantly and just deride him while posting excerpts from his work that could probably be taken easily out of context.

I find him an enjoyable writer, that has this weird serious-joking ratio in his work I enjoy. His prose "style" also seems to part of the joke, with its dryness he seems to amplify strange and usually surreal dialog between characters ( I have only read Richard Yates).

He also offers an unique voice that is rarely heard in literature.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 05:59:53 2012 No.2856744 >>2856734 >I have only read Richard Yates Come back when you have a better idea of what you're talking about. In fact, that goes to everyone on /lit/. Learn all about your subject, then post.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 06:00:53 2012 No.2856746 File: 190 KB, 590x767, lovecraft fucking sucks.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's just you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:06:33 2012 No.2857050 >>2856744 So I can't have an opinion at all because I have not read everything he has written? You completely ignored my question, why do you like and dislike Tao Lin?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:18:53 2012 No.2857081 http://www.vol1brooklyn.com/2012/06/20/lexicon-devils-what-exactly-is-alt-lit-a-conversation-with-fr ank-hinton-noah-cicero-and-stephen-tully-dierks/

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:25:52 2012 No.2857095

>>2857081
>And I [Noah Cicero] didn’t like Eggers, DFW (David Foster Wallace) and Franzen, I found them all bourgeois. I was reading like Sartre and Nietzsche at that time.

>He [Tao Lin] didn’t care about DFW, Eggers and Franzen either. I read once that DFW is considered the Jesus of alt, but in reality, no one even considered him worth talking about.

I cut out the best parts for you guys.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:26:52 2012 No.2857098 File: 52 KB, 337x275, 45h.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2857095 Peons.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:27:24 2012 No.2857100 >>2857095 Everytime that link has been posted someone has quoted that section. The only sane response is >noah cicero

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:27:24 2012 No.2857103 Who exactly is this "Towlie" I've heard so much about lately?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:28:24 2012 No.2857105 >>2857100 Everytime meaning... twice? Because they were both me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:31:54 2012 No.2857111 >>2857105 I've seen it more than twice.

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:36:54 2012 No.2857119
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I didn't know who Tao Lin was until I started posting here. I didn't think much of him until later on when I visited a wiki of him. His subjects are himself. What the fuck? Now I know why people hate him so much.

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:36:54 2012 No.2857120

tao lin is so bad he literally makes me want to kill myself.
every time I remember tao lin exists I feel worse about being alive and I feel worse about being a "human being".
I wish that the printing press was never invented and that the lower classes were never taught to read so that tao lin would never have put pen to page and showed us how soul crushingly ugly he is.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:37:54 2012 No.2857124 >>2857098 DFW and Franzen are irrelevant though, Tao Lin is terrible but at least his terribleness is relevant to the times.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:37:54 2012 No.2857126 There's less shit on the board. I chided the shitposters so hard that they became insecure and are too analblasted to post anymore This is how I keep order

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:38:54 2012 No.2857127 >>2857111 NOOOOO! ONLY I CAN POST THIS LINK. UNDERSTAND? I HAVE ALL THE EXCLUSIVE RIGHTS TO 4CHAN IN RELATION TO THIS WEBSITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:40:55 2012 No.2857130 File: 64 KB, 510x385, omedetou.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2857126

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:44:54 2012 No.2857138 >>2857120 tao lin is so bad I wish I were in Nazi Germany just so that my ears would be rescued from pathetic tao lin's hamster voice by continued "sieg heil"s.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:47:56 2012 No.2857142 >>2857126 I'm still here lol

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:48:56 2012 No.2857145 Why do people here hate Tao Lin so much. Are they jealous or something? He seems like such a nice guy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:49:56 2012 No.2857146 >>2857145 Tao Lin is generally accepted to be the greatest writer of our generation. /lit/ is just jealous.

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:50:56 2012 No.2857148

>>2857119
That doesn't make sense. Just because he writes about himself doesn't make him a bad writer. That is like saying everything written by Kafka is garbage because it had a biographical basis. Read a full length novel by him first before saying anything.

Lin and DFW are the most polarized writers on /lit/ and by just choosing a side just to be with the "hivemind" is just childish.

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:50:56 2012 No.2857149

>>2857145
because he's nihilism and world-weariness personified and he makes us feel more exhausted for being alive.

>>2857146
there is no greatest writer of our generation. greatness is absent.
it would have to be like this: "greatest" writer of our generation.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:52:56 2012 No.2857152 >>2857148 >Lin and DFW are the most polarized writers on /lit/ and by just choosing a side just to be with the "hivemind" is just childish. no one actually does this here and you're really stupid and naive if you think they do..

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:55:56 2012 No.2857156 >>2857148 >thinking Lin and Wallace exist as a dichotomy on /lit/ That's pants-on-head retarded.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:55:56 2012 No.2857158 >>2857119 This is totally Tao Lin trolling.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:56:56 2012 No.2857159 Tao's books make me laugh out loud. If they depress you you must be some sad bastards. Quit hating on the voice of our generation

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:59:58 2012 No.2857169

>>2857152
If someone is basing the ability of a writer off of a wikipedia article I would think that they are choosing to side with the dominant idea that Lin is an awful writer without ever even reading his writing.

Do you actually think that is a way to critic an author? That is an wholly ignorant belief that people don't do it.

>>2857156
I think you are misunderstanding me. I am saying that both Lin and DFW brings a divide in /lit/. I am not saying Lin is the antithesis of DFW.

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:01:58 2012 No.2857171

>>2857148
>Just because he writes about himself doesn't make him a bad writer.

Actually it does, the more impersonal an artist is the better is their work. It is a true fact.
See Homer and Virgil, they write about Arms, Country and Heroes. Shakespeare, Racine - write human dramas. Tolstoy best novellist writes about real affairs. And then the shitty romantics come in and start spewing their "feelings", and now you can immediately smell the author's own prejudices and thoughts beneath the writing.
Kafka is actually pretty impersonal, but impersonal in a "bureaucracy alienating humanity, depersonalization" kind of impersonality, but that's about the best that could be achieved in the 20th century (Kafka is easily the best 20th century writer).

>>	Nicolas Cage !!4L3ydrPrJqa Tue Jul 31 09:02:58 2012 No.2857176 >>2857171 Your references are shit. I hate you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:03:59 2012 No.2857178 >>2857159 If they make you laugh you must be even more sad than the sad bastards.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:03:59 2012 No.2857177 >>2857171 "The human mind is generally far more eager to praise and dispraise than to describe and define. It wants to make every distiction a distiction of value ... as if they were candidates for a prize." -The Four Loves by C.S. Lewis

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:04:59 2012 No.2857180 >>2857171 Kafka always wrote about himself. Well, sometimes his father but mostly just himself.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:04:59 2012 No.2857182 >>2857177 what? I did describe and define. I defined impersonality as a measure for artistic worth and I described impersonality through examples like Virgil and Tolstoy.

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:08:58 2012 No.2857189
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Tao Lin is now /lit/'s troll of the month.
For some reason people randomly started talking about him again.
Also he's really depressed and his books stank of hipster depression

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:09:59 2012 No.2857190 just realized, tao is op and trolled us all

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:09:59 2012 No.2857192 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjcOK2T0lPo >voice of a generation Hipsters...god.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEDhbjkknWo

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:13:58 2012 No.2857207 >>2857178 Books full of non-sequiturs and inanely funny shit. You'd have to be sad and stupid to not appreciate it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:16:00 2012 No.2857215 >>2857207 >implying you can't find it funny and sad simultaneously You autistic, son?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:17:00 2012 No.2857222 >>2857207 I actually feel less lonely and sad reading his work than with any other author.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:25:00 2012 No.2857248 >>2857222 >less lonely and sad reading alt lit catchphrases detected trolling detected

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:29:00 2012 No.2857258 everyone in this thread is tao

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:36:02 2012 No.2857277 tao's google alert is going crazy

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