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Looking at the exit-level list I realized that it basically equates intellectualism with abjection. What about "exit-level" non-despairing intellectual literature?

I'm thinking stuff like The Rime of the Ancient Mariner, Winesburg Ohio, Zazie dans le Metro, The Good Soldier Svejk, Three Men on the Bummel etc.

ITT: post intellectual or 'exit-level' novels that aren't "the world is a dead place"-core

>> No.2848077

At Swim-Two-Birds
The Mill on the Floss
Moliere

>> No.2848078 [DELETED] 

>>2848077

Molire?

>> No.2848088

>>2848077

Moliere ?

>> No.2848090

>>2848088
1.
>deleting posts
>2002

2. yes, moliere

>> No.2848094

>implying intellectuals aren't all depressed and repressed

>> No.2848099

if we were happy we wouldnt be on 4chan now would we

>> No.2848103
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>>2848099
>implying there are any intellectuals on 4chan

I Scoo Bap Ba Dee Dop

>> No.2848110

De Rerum Natura. It's brimming with the exhilaration of being right here right now, existing in this world.

>> No.2848113

>>2848103
What's an intellectual? If you do a PhD are you an intellectual? In that case we have plenty.

>> No.2848114

where is the exit level list?

>> No.2848116

The Enormous Room by cummings? I don't know if it really counts as "exit-level," whatever the hell that's even supposed to mean. It's incredibly cheery and upbeat for a novel about a WW1 French prison.

>> No.2848117

>>2848116
Exit level is a joke. Great novel though.

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>>2848114

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>>2848114
latest version I believe

>> No.2848131

The meta-physical poets belong on this list at any rate

>> No.2848134

I like the browne and burton additions but piers plowman is just trolling. this list can't decide whether exit indicates obscurity or underpraised masterpieces

>> No.2848135

Journey to the End of the Night? Really? That seems pretty out of place with the rest of it, and it's a pretty basic pick for rebellious 20-somethings.

>> No.2848136

>>2848113
no

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2848144

OP here. Yeah the posted lists are the current "exit-level" lists. What I'm suggesting is making a compilation of "exit-level" novels that doesn't conflate intellectualism with abjection. Basically a list of obscure intellectual masterpieces that isn't filled almost entirely with books about despair.

>> No.2848151

>>2848134
>but piers plowman is just trolling

what makes you say that? (I don't know much about it except that it's meant to be important)

>> No.2848169

>>2848116
Exit level is something of a tongue in cheek term. It's meant to be the opposite of entry-level - obscure, difficult, highly literary.

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I'm not sure it fits the description, but well you know hey

>> No.2848195

>>2848189
i think it's the exact opposite of what op wanted. it's like the saddest book i've ever read.

>> No.2848227

The Summer Book by Tove Jansson

>> No.2848235

Moravagine by Blaise Cendrars.

"At once truly appalling and appallingly funny, Blaise Cendrars's Moravagine bears comparison with Naked Lunch—except that it's a lot more entertaining to read. Heir to an immense aristocratic fortune, mental and physical mutant Moravagine is a monster, a man in pursuit of a theorem that will justify his every desire. Released from a hospital for the criminally insane by his starstruck psychiatrist (the narrator of the book), who foresees a companionship in crime that will also be an unprecedented scientific collaboration, Moravagine travels from Moscow to San Antonio to deepest Amazonia, engaged in schemes and scams as, among other things, terrorist, speculator, gold prospector, and pilot. He also enjoys a busy sideline in rape and murder. At last, the two friends return to Europe—just in time for World War I, when "the whole world was doing a Moravagine.""

>> No.2848236

>>2848195
Well... It's a descent into hell, but on the way, there is some beautiful stuff to be seen. Some passages are really bright, it swings back and forth between desperation and sweet contemplation.
I also think one of the themes is "what goes on in this alcoholic guy's head", with all that it implies. If I identify with the guy, I go for a ride with him. If I look at him from an external point of view, it's pathetic, but not truly sad. I don't think it is just "sad", it's... something else.
There's some happiness to be found in this book I think, but I will agree with you in that when I finished it, I was sad.

(excuse my english)

>> No.2848275

>>2848169
actually, the original "exit-level literature" list was a joke about suicide. they were all books about suicide or books that were very depressing. that was the joke, which you just tremendously did not get.

>> No.2848295

>>2848122
memórias póstumas de brás cubas

finally i see the best brazilian book recognized in any way by this board.
Every chapter is amazing, after i read it a few times i thought the ocidental canon would be far greater cause of course my country sucks but yeah... memórias póstumas is still fucking great.

>mfw ....................................................................................................
.............................................

:O

>> No.2848296

>>2848275
That makes a lot more sense and explains away my protest about Celine.