/lit/ - Literature

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Anonymous Wed Jul 18 04:37:10 2012 No.2819349 [DELETED]

Tell me, how lit(y) is your city?

I think mine, Edinburgh, scores pretty high:

>Home of Scott, Stevenson, Conan-Doyle, Barrie, Hume, Carlyle, Boswell
>Train station's named after a novel
>The university was the first in the world to offer a course in literature
>Gorgeous architecture from enlightenment era, Georgian and Gothic
>Dozens of independent bookshops

It's a nice place to live, too. How're things on your end, guy?

Anonymous Wed Jul 18 04:41:09 2012 No.2819355

Brisbane. AU.

We have pretensions but nothing to back it up. Australia is very young and doesn't have interesting history anyway.

There are some good coffee shops.

Hobart and Adelaide are beautiful architecturally though. Brisbane is a fucking mess. It's as if no one considers the buildings around a site when they design their building.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 04:42:09 2012 No.2819358 Bathgate, Scotland It's shite. David tennant used to live here, that's about it

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 04:46:11 2012 No.2819366 >>2819355 Sydney and Melbourne have had good writers, Patrick White for one. You Queenslanders just have nothing to contribute because you're all illiterate, inbred rednecks.

Anonymous Wed Jul 18 08:10:16 2012 No.2819605

Unknown city in northern Italy.

We have three bookshop, they are pretty shitty, but I can't complain.
Architecturally is like any Roman city founded in the second century BC, not something really good.
Dante used to live here and we have a museum that is quite well known throughout Italy though.

Anonymous Wed Jul 18 08:16:16 2012 No.2819617

A shithole in the middle of the middle east. Nobody reads, scarce amount of authors. I'm not complaining, though, I have a small library in my city and a handful of book stores, although those tend to only have the bestsellers in English, Hunger Games, Eat Pray Love, and the like.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 08:18:17 2012 No.2819618 Big city in the US Tons of great hidden little bookstores, a plentitude of libraries big and small, some epically large and full of great selections. Plenty of great writers hail from here, as well. Can't complain.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 08:20:17 2012 No.2819620 Somewhere between england and scotland i dont go out so i dont know if there are any bookstores

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 08:21:17 2012 No.2819623 I hate Edinburgh, abdy's far too posh. Cav' is ace though.

Anonymous Wed Jul 18 08:27:18 2012 No.2819636

A small city in the southern half of the Appalachian Mountains.

A decent enough library since the city bought a grocery store that hadn't been used in 7 years and upgraded from the small library they did have, but you have to go 3 cities over to find an actual book store and not just the shitty selection at Wal-Mart or whatever random books you can find at the local consignment store.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 08:28:17 2012 No.2819638 My home city's Düsseldorf >the Kunstakademie Düsseldorf >lots of museums and such Not I live in a unknown town in the southern U.S. >a books a million and a secondhand bookstore >no one really reads >blink-and-you-miss-it town

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 08:29:17 2012 No.2819640 London. Say no more.

Anonymous Wed Jul 18 08:32:17 2012 No.2819646

A small city in the southeastern US called Lynchburg, Virginia. It's arguably the buckle of the Bible belt and the location of the world's largest evangelical university, which means that most bookstores (Barnes and Noble, as well as smaller, privately-owned bookstores) are crowded with religious fiction, religious self-help books, and Bibles.

Not very many people, especially not young people, read for enjoyment.

Luckily, I go to a private liberal arts university in this city, so I've managed to find many like-minded, bookish people who enjoy literature.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 08:36:17 2012 No.2819650 >>2819646 >Lynchburg, Virginia heh. it's like naming a town in germany "holocaustville" or something.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 08:40:19 2012 No.2819657 >>2819650 Haha, exactly. When I first moved here they tried to tell me that it was named after the founder, Thomas Lynch. Didn't believe it for a second.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 08:42:19 2012 No.2819660 >>2819640 I envy you so much.

Anonymous Wed Jul 18 08:45:20 2012 No.2819664

Melbourne, bitches. UNESCO city of literature, for no particular reason. Full of mildly insane poets stinking out the last few ungentrified inner city pubs. No tertiary writing courses of even minor significance. Our writing centre was two rooms in an empty, run-down office building until about a year ago. Wooo us.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 08:48:19 2012 No.2819670 I'm from New York, but I studied for a semester in Edinburgh. It's a beautiful city, I miss it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 08:54:21 2012 No.2819680 Also from Edinburgh, OP. Love this city, GOAT bus system.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 08:58:22 2012 No.2819686 Cape Town. There are a bunch of author-y, poet-y people, also lots of playwrights, screenwriters, etc. Plenty of university libraries. Lots for inspiration.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 08:59:21 2012 No.2819690 Stockholm. Not very.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 08:59:22 2012 No.2819689 London. South of the river. Fantastic.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 09:00:21 2012 No.2819693 File: 45 KB, 600x455, working class scum.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2819689 >South of the river

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 09:03:21 2012 No.2819698 oxford http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literature_in_Oxford

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 09:04:21 2012 No.2819703 Helsingør

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 09:11:23 2012 No.2819711 Baltimore, MD. We claim a couple writers. Poe, Fitzgerald, Frank O'Hara and of course John Waters. It's a nice city if you don't get shot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 09:19:23 2012 No.2819729 File: 118 KB, 680x544, Jimmies_f345e7_3637219.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] > Edinburgh > 2012 > Tram-works > All jimmies rustled

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 09:21:23 2012 No.2819730 File: 68 KB, 500x400, 1342115709246.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2819711 >thinks Baltimore is a dangerous city

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 09:21:23 2012 No.2819731 Nottingham Not especially, but it does have DH Lawrence and connections with Robin Hood.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 09:24:24 2012 No.2819732 >>2819693 Are you a jew?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 09:27:24 2012 No.2819735 File: 499 KB, 618x1001, edinburgh_130.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] OP, It's funny, sort of, that I was reading this less than an hour ago, on the subway coming in to work.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 09:30:24 2012 No.2819737 coventry. it's an awful city. it does have the larkin connection but that's about it i think.

Anonymous Wed Jul 18 09:32:24 2012 No.2819740
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Asheville, NC
>Home of Thomas Wolfe and O. Henry
>Indie bookstore called "Malaprops" that attracts big-name writers pretty often
>massive used bookstore with rows of old fashioned movie theater seats for reading
>beautiful, steampunky "book bar" with drinks and cozy-as-fuck reading nooks with bookshelves everywhere
>dem mountains

A little too hippy to be lit(y), but still a good lit environment.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 09:37:24 2012 No.2819747 >>2819740 That sounds fantastic, I didn't know they had that kind of stuff in NC. My part of Virginia has nothing of the sort. I probably need to go closer to the coast/closer to DC.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 09:38:24 2012 No.2819749 >>2819693 I spend my days reading in Crystal Palace park. I regret nothing.

Anonymous Wed Jul 18 09:42:26 2012 No.2819759

Philadelphia
>Edgar Allen Poe chilled here for a few years
>William Carlos Williams went to med school here
>Samuel Delany teaches at Temple U.
>Hilda Doolittle got jilted by Ezra Pound while he was getting his degree in everything at UPenn
>Clifford Odets was from here
>Jonathan Franzen says (in the introduction to "The Regulars") that he spent the worst year of his life in Philadelphia.
"Philadelphia makes short work of a certain kind of ego; it refuses to flatter our sense of importance."
>Oh yeah, the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.

That's all I can think of.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 09:43:26 2012 No.2819761 >>2819735 Christ... The life Conan Doyle's father could make a fantastic gothic novel thingy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 09:51:33 2012 No.2819784 Paris. Get stuffed.

Anonymous Wed Jul 18 09:57:06 2012 No.2819794
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>>2819759
Philadelphia also!
>Declaration of Independence and US Constitution created here
>First American University (founded before 1776)
>Ben Franklin did all sorts of fun stuff here, like inventing ice cream and rocking chairs and establishing the first post office
>Poe
>Home of Doo Wop, shama lam a ding dong
>5th largest US City
>Racially very diverse
>More outdoor murals and sculpture than any other American city

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 09:59:06 2012 No.2819796 Providence, Rhode Island Poe chilled here for a little while, too. Also, home of Lovecraft ("I am Providence"). It's a cool place if you like horror. Lots of sights to see. That's about it though, I think.

Anonymous Wed Jul 18 10:01:06 2012 No.2819800

>>2819761
Yeah, not sure what was going on there...ACD's mother just sort of lived with this "lodger" and named her last child after him. Pretty horrible.
Maybe a short story where Sherlock's Dad visits him as a ghost...wait, I'm coming up with this as I write....what about Sherlock=Hamlet?

Anonymous Wed Jul 18 10:12:08 2012 No.2819815

Bristol, England. Pretty decent literary heritage. There's a pub still trading that was frequented by Daniel Defoe (he met Alexander Selkirk there and conceived Robinson Crusoe) and RL Stevenson (he apparently used it as the model for the Admiral Benbow in Treasure Island).

The library's okay, not really impressive for a town of that size, and there's a lack of good independent book shops. Also the local theatre is shitty.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 10:26:13 2012 No.2819868 >>2819749 I've just moved from near Victoria Park to Hither Green, and wondered if a cycle to Crystal Palace park is worth it? >I miss Vicky Park and throwing E3 gangsigns.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 10:28:13 2012 No.2819873 Carlisle, England lol

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 10:34:47 2012 No.2819881 Toronto >Nothing Feels bad.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 10:40:47 2012 No.2819891 Wagga Wagga, NSW, Australia Uhhh...

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 10:59:52 2012 No.2819920 File: 229 KB, 435x288, sao-paulo-favela.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] São Paulo. Chaotic, but i like it. Also, love not being a First World faggot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 11:09:53 2012 No.2819948 Dublin. It's historically /lit/ I suppose. A little culturally dead at the moment though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 18:06:00 2012 No.2821042 bump

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 18:11:42 2012 No.2821051 Rotterdam, The Netherlands possibly the worst big city, lit-wise, in Europe it brought forward some drunkard/pothead poets though

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 18:13:44 2012 No.2821056 >>2821051 brought forth, soh-ree

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 18:15:44 2012 No.2821058 >>2819948 iktf

Anonymous Wed Jul 18 18:18:44 2012 No.2821061

San Francisco, California.

We had the Beats. And a good amount of other literary figures have spent significant amounts of time here (Jack London! Hunter S Thompson! Mark Twain! Thomas Pynchon!). It's pretty okay. And we have a lot of good bookstores. And a really great library system, as long as you don't mind a few homeless people. And probably too many coffeeshops.

Yep, it's not so bad.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 18:19:44 2012 No.2821067 >Christchurch, New Zealand Nada. No architecture to speak of nowadays, either.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 18:21:44 2012 No.2821073 Chicago. Pretty high up there, but probably not god-tier. New York can suck our dick for all I'm concerned, though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 18:21:44 2012 No.2821074 Columbus, Ohio >R. L. Stine of Goosebumps fame >

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 18:21:44 2012 No.2821075 >>2821073 >New York can suck our dick for all I'm concerned, though. well, i can agree with that

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 18:23:45 2012 No.2821077 Los Angeles. We've got lit by Bukowski Chandler Bret Easton Ellis John Fante Evelyn Waugh Also adjacent to the screenwriting capital of the world. Tons of comedians here, too.

Anonymous Wed Jul 18 18:26:44 2012 No.2821082

Other Baltimore guy here. It's not really that dangerous if you don't do anything stupid.

Edgar Allen Poe and H. L. Mencken are the big names here, but you also have John Waters, Barth, Adrienne Rich, and Dorothy Parker and F. Scott Fitzgerald a bit. David Simon, one of the Wire writers, technically might count.

(And Tom Clancy.)

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 18:27:46 2012 No.2821083 San Antonio, Texas I love it as home, but I doubt it rates very high on any scale of value.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 18:29:45 2012 No.2821090 >>2821077 >Los Angleles >Evelyn Waugh Am I missing something here?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 18:30:45 2012 No.2821091 I grew up in Edinburgh but I'm living in Newcastle now. Edinburgh is great for literature, as OP said. Newcastle is poor.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 18:30:45 2012 No.2821092 >>2821090 Los Angeles is terrible. That's what you're missing. BEAT LA! BEAT LA! BEAT LA!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 18:31:45 2012 No.2821094 >>2821090 *Angeles

Anonymous Wed Jul 18 18:41:45 2012 No.2821108
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>tfw used bookshops in edinburgh
>tfw all central bustops have real time bus updates
>tfw edinburgh in general

this place is fucking top notch, fuck you glasgow it's worth the 40p extra on my pints.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 18:42:45 2012 No.2821110 >>2821090 I think The Loved One is set in Los Angeles, but that's all I got.

Anonymous Wed Jul 18 18:55:48 2012 No.2821133
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>>2821083

>San Antionio Bro

Mah nigga

Fuck the southside for its poverty, fuck the eastside for its blacks, fuck the westside for its mexicans, fuck the northside for its rich-white-fucks-who-can't-vote-correctly.

Really, our town sucks, but goddamn, I didn't realize there were other e/lit/ists here.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 18:57:48 2012 No.2821136 Dublin. We do ok for ourselves.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 18:58:48 2012 No.2821141 St. Louis, MO, USA Not very literary, as far as I can tell. Fellow students are mostly plebs. Stanley Elkin is from here though, so that's pretty cool... I like his short fiction. Mark Twain wrote nearby. Guess that's it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 19:05:52 2012 No.2821160 Boston, Massachusetts, USA Pretty literary I'd say.

Anonymous Wed Jul 18 19:09:52 2012 No.2821172

>>2819740
>tfw you find another asheville lurker on /lit/

seriously though, we live in a great fucking town for reading. 6 used bookstores downtown alone. In a city with a population of just under 80k, that's a damn fine ratio. Plus we've got the standard B&Ns.

We're also the home city for Biblio.com, which is the 3rd largest online book marketplace on the 'net.

Oh and 20-40 minutes out and you'll be in another town's range. Hendersonville, Waynesville, Black Mountain, Brevard, and Wearverville all have their own used and independent stores.

Good area.

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>>	skipdivided !!cPnXrwrZ96z Wed Jul 18 19:13:53 2012 No.2821179 Buenos Aires. Some really great stuff, I'd say.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 19:14:53 2012 No.2821183 >>2821083 >>2821133 Holy shit, you two live in San Antonio too? I know it's mentioned in McCarthy's Border trilogy, but otherwise SA is shit for literature. I'm glad I'm not alone, as ridiculous as that sounds.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 19:15:53 2012 No.2821189 I fucking love your city, OP. Btw, mine is Alcalá de Henares > City of Cervantes > In my university studied the best writers of my country: Lope de Vega, Calderón de la Barca, Quevedo

Anonymous Wed Jul 18 19:15:53 2012 No.2821190

>>2821183

Yup, the only author I know about who lives in SA is the guy who does the young adult series "Percy Jackson"

Eh, what are you gonna do, eh?

And HOLY FUCK, what's up with all the rain recently? I mean, I'm glad we're getting some, but we've gotten more in this past 7 days than I can remember in a long time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 19:18:53 2012 No.2821199 >>2821183 >>2821083 >>2821133 San Antonio may be shit, but at least you all don't live in El Paso. FUCK.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 19:18:54 2012 No.2821203 >>2821199 SAbro here. I too am glad I don't live in El Paso Holy fuck, you might as well give it back to Mexico.

Anonymous Wed Jul 18 19:19:54 2012 No.2821206
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Stoke-on-Trent. Arnold Bennett is the most well-know literary figure. Some other, less well-known figures as well, but not bad for a dirt-poor city of circa. 200,000. Captain of the Titanic was from here, too.

Anonymous Wed Jul 18 19:21:53 2012 No.2821208

>>2821190
Rick Riordan? I guess he's better than no one.

But that rain. God damn. It started raining soon after I left work, ceased, then began again before I walked into my house. Book got soaked and everything. I'm glad for the rain though.

>>2821199
At least you have Big Bend pretty close by. Small consolation, I know.

Scott Wed Jul 18 19:28:55 2012 No.2821231

Austin, TX

Uhh, we have hipsters and coffee shops.
We also have Book People which is a pretty highly rated independent bookstore
UT supposedly has a good English Graduate program

Not really much else I guess. Not too many authors are from Texas. I mean hell, even a place as stereotypically illiterate as Mississippi has Faulkner.

Anonymous Wed Jul 18 19:37:55 2012 No.2821253

>>2819640

I envy you, too. I am Spaniard with a Bachelor degree on English. Do you think it would be possible for me to get a job related to books there? Stuff like being shop assistant in a book shop to 'the guy of the photocopies' in a publishing company.

Sorry for the off-topic

Anonymous Wed Jul 18 19:57:56 2012 No.2821343

>>2821253
With a bachelor's degree in English, you're more than qualified for the sort of jobs that you described. I'm sure you could manage to find openings for those jobs in London, it being such a vast city. I would think that it's just a matter of being in the right place at the right time, knowing the right people, and being charismatic and friendly.

I'd say go for it, maybe start by looking through online job ads. Best of luck to you.

Anonymous Wed Jul 18 20:00:28 2012 No.2821355

>>2821343

thanks to you, mate. I know i will have to start by working on a McDonalds or similar, and then go little by little. I am just a bit worried about being able to get into that world. I would like to live there, make some money and then do a Master on English Literature.
Thanks again ;)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 09:06:11 2012 No.2822959 >NYC Your cities all pale in comparison

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 09:19:13 2012 No.2822979 >>2822959 Yours pales in front of mine; Paris. Thank you, goodbye. /thread

Anonymous Thu Jul 19 09:25:14 2012 No.2822994

Who cares where any of you fuckers live?

"Hey - I'm a person that posts on 4chan /lit/ and I live in [city]"

WOW!

"My city is better than your city! NUR NUR NA NUR NUR!! :p!"

Did you contribute to your cities glory? Have you any stake inits achievements?

Stop leeching off the work of others. Support a fucking sports teams if you want to indulge in this childish filth.

Anonymous Thu Jul 19 10:12:28 2012 No.2823087

Portland, Oregon

Ursala K. Le Guin, Chuck Palahniuk, and Beverly Cleary.

Also home to Dark Horse comics and Oni Press apparently

Doesnt really rank it "high" as far as authors go but Powells Used Books changed my life. Though i wish there were more "mom and pop" used bookstores.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 10:20:28 2012 No.2823110 >>2822994 How's Walnut Grove these days?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 10:25:30 2012 No.2823126 >>2822994 Well, someone obviously lives in a shithole.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 10:28:30 2012 No.2823136 /lit/ meetup in Paris 2020 Come dressed as your favorite modernist writer

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 10:29:30 2012 No.2823138 >>2819349 Why not talk about fucking literature. Who the fuck cares.

Anonymous Thu Jul 19 10:30:30 2012 No.2823140

i oscillate between singapore, chennai, and montreal; three cities that could not be more different from one another. singapore has a couple okay bookstores but nobody reads really, and there is almost no literary tradition to speak of but the situation is improving. chennai has a very very rich culture of traditional arts and that includes local literature, but unfortunately it is a literal shitheap because of terrible management and infrastructure, bookstores are really really cheap and there's plenty of amazing secondhand ones though. montreal, amazingly artsy city, i'm not too sure about its literary past though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 10:31:30 2012 No.2823146 >>2823138 Its literature related and not even the least shittiest thread on page 0 let alone all 15 butthurt cultural cesspool resident detected

Anonymous Thu Jul 19 10:37:31 2012 No.2823161

>>2823146
>Its literature related and not even the least shittiest thread on page 0 let alone all 15

Oh god, I'm laughing. You can't make something like this up.

>butthurt cultural cesspool resident detected

Ah. It's less funny when you try.

Seriously, gents? Books. Literature. Philosophy. Let's get to anyone of those things instead of masturbating over where you live (which is totally irrelevant to your person, we'd do better to talk about how you live).

Anonymous Thu Jul 19 10:37:31 2012 No.2823162

>>2819796
Hey there.
I'm in Providence for college, and I might live here after I graduate. Back when I was a freshman I went to the John Hay Library and spent a couple hours poring over a box of Lovecraft's letters. His handwriting is awful. I've also been to the cemetery next to the Cathedral of St. John where he and his nerd friends used to hang out and write rhymed acrostics about Poe. It was neat.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 10:40:32 2012 No.2823169 File: 9 KB, 205x246, cunt.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2823126 Someone obviously failed at life if he has to rest on the achievements on those that happen to come from the same city as he did. How primitive of you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 10:41:32 2012 No.2823171 Moscow. As lit(y) as you can do. Saint-Petersberg got no shit on us.

Anonymous Thu Jul 19 10:48:31 2012 No.2823183

>>2819660

Why don't you move to London then? Not that poster, but I've been living here for the past five months on fuck-all. I happen to live near Stratford, but it seems an OK area and I haven't been mugged yet.

I pay around £80 a week, with around £70 a week going on expenses. I get to go to Kensington once or twice a week on that budget. Of course, I can't afford to live there on that budget.

That place is so fucking inspiring.

Nicolas Cage !!4L3ydrPrJqa Thu Jul 19 10:53:33 2012 No.2823197

>>2819355
There are a few tidbits of interesting history but our educations always get tied down to those narrow themes of Australians doing shit overseas, Australians being people from overseas, or Australians being tortured aboriginal girls... because people suck. It can actually - not even joking - be interesting when you start reading about the construction of mailing networks, supply channels, borders, legal history - the actual political shit; the stuff which is actually useful. The texts we're parcelled are all picked and chosen with an eye on making us seem cosmopolitan or 'multicultural.' Australia doesn't want to have a history.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 10:55:33 2012 No.2823202 London master race standing by >>2823183 I've been mugged about 8 times in Stratford. I must exude an air of weakness or something.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 11:10:35 2012 No.2823230 >living in paris >best /lit/ place to be sorry guys.

Anonymous Thu Jul 19 11:18:35 2012 No.2823256

>>2823202

I think you either look too white or appear to be rich. I'm here on a backpacker's budget, so I look like I just came from a hike pretty much all the time. I also look like a light-skinned Pashtun despite having a lineage back to the Norman conquests. I've been called a Paki twice while living here.

My Sicilian flatmate was almost mugged the other day though. Two Polish mobsters came up to him and demanded his phone. He said sure, but if they took it that he'd find them and kill them the next day. They apparently ran away.

So I suppose it's avoiding situations and acting like a mafia-connected foreigner if you're threatened. You can also run.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 11:19:36 2012 No.2823259 >>2823230 Enjoy your overdone middle-class shithole that, surprisingly, can't keep giving. Seriously, Paris is inauthentic as shit and drained of all currency.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 11:33:36 2012 No.2823292 >>2823259 You've clearly never been to Paris.

Anonymous Thu Jul 19 11:35:36 2012 No.2823297

>>2823259
Well that's some authentic rage, I bet you don't actually know anything at all about Paris.

Also, only 2deep&edgy fucking hipsters believe that big cities are overdone, and what's the point of your statement on middle-classes? How is that /lit/ related and why is the economy of Paris (which, btw, is mighty fine) an aesthetic criterion?

Shithead.

captcha: breathe extensively

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 11:35:36 2012 No.2823300 >>2823292 Considering much of Paris is Disneyland, I'd have to agree with the inauthenticity.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 11:36:36 2012 No.2823304 A hour north of Houston. Nope. Nothing. No writers really hail from Texas and I live near a really yuppie area. There is no independent book stores so the best I got is Hastings.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 11:37:36 2012 No.2823312 >>2823202 >I've been mugged about 8 times in Stratford. Are you sure? How?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 11:37:36 2012 No.2823313 >>2823300 what the actual fuck?

Anonymous Thu Jul 19 11:38:36 2012 No.2823315

>>2823300
You mean the crisp, clean facade you only see when you don't bother going 5 miles outside central Paris? Of course it's going to be fake, that's how capital cities in this world work.

Try going to the suburbs and to older areas, it's a wonderful place.

Anonymous Thu Jul 19 11:42:38 2012 No.2823328

>>2823297

If I put marble statues everywhere in my house, does that make me upper class? If I happen to renovate my whole house in the latest fashion - say, late 1800s - does that make me upper class? If I make my house open to all, but forbid people from walking on the grass - does that make me authentic in my intentions?

These were my problems with Paris. I think the main indicator of middle-class is the attempt to be classier than you are. The gratuitous number of marble statues in Paris and the Haussmann's Boulevards attempted to make Paris something it wasn't. If I can't walk on the grass in a republic - liberty, equality, and brotherhood - am I being authentic to my ideas?

Paris works like a Woody Allen film. It's pretty to look at and squeaks like a cute little girl, but in depth it's all an examination of ordinary life made into something it isn't. It's roccoco, aspirational twaddle. Marble where marble didn't need to be doesn't validate a city.

Just because something is old, doesn't mean it is great.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 11:50:00 2012 No.2823356 >>2823315 London isn't crisp or clean. You can see tower-blocks looming over St Paul's. Still this city has more authenticity than Paris will ever have. London is a metropole. Paris, throughout its history, attempted to be one.

Anonymous Thu Jul 19 11:53:00 2012 No.2823366

>>2823328
You must be incredibly shallow if you can't appreciate the beauty of things without putting it on a social ladder.

Anyway, I can tell you that no true Parisian ever loiter around the Haussmanian districts, it's just made for history books and tourists, they are only beautiful late at night and desolate. No one cares about these glossy buildings, and it's unfair to assume that Paris doesn't have anything else to offer.

See >>2823315 (not even samefagging), the lit-y part of Paris is actually the old and hidden places. So many great authors such as the romantics, Baudelaire, or the modernists have painted Paris, thus living there is literary as if you were reading one of their masterpiece.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 11:55:00 2012 No.2823369 >>2823356 yeah mayfair is such a thug area the same goes for chelsea i get robbed erryday

Anonymous Thu Jul 19 11:57:02 2012 No.2823374

>>2823366

People belong to classes brotha. Whether they be economic, social, cultural, religious or based on taste class always matters. You're shallow denying that this is the truth. Look at 'classless' societies and how boring they are. I suggest you live in New Zealand for a while or some Central Asian country that had its culture successfully obliterated by Comintern.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 11:58:02 2012 No.2823378 >>2823369 Cross the river from either and you're in Elephant and Castle.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 12:00:02 2012 No.2823383 >>2823378 Cross the river from Saint-Germain-des-Près to Châtelet, same effect guaranteed.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 12:03:02 2012 No.2823388 >>2823383 >Comparing Chatelet to Elephant and Castle. Seriously? Have you ever visited London? You could've done more if you'd mentioned the piss-reeking Place de Stalingrad, but it still would've been wrong.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 12:04:20 2012 No.2823390 >>2823169 jesus fuck dude we are just discussing it, nobody is making nationalist claims of superiority or anything

Anonymous Thu Jul 19 12:08:18 2012 No.2823403

QUIT DISCUSSING YOUR CITIES AND THE LITERARY ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY HAVE ONCE LIVED THERE. IT ISN'T /LIT/ RELATED.

/LIT/ IS FOR EBOOKS, BOOK DOWNLOADS, RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE SAME 10-15 BOOKS, AND THE SAME 3 PHILOSOPHICAL DISCUSSIONS.

DAMMIT /LIT/ IT SURE IS SUMMER

I'm not caps guy, merely angry. i apologize for the confusion

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 12:11:50 2012 No.2823408 >>2823388 I could've mentionned all the northern districts, but what's the point? Châtelet is way filthier than anything you could find on the strand.

Anonymous Thu Jul 19 12:13:54 2012 No.2823413

>>2823403
>QUIT DISCUSSING YOUR CITIES AND THE LITERARY ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY HAVE ONCE LIVED THERE. IT ISN'T /LIT/ RELATED.
Yes it is. You're fuckign stupid.

My first post ITT and I won't participate. Just wanted to mention how silly that screaming faggot it. And so I have.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 12:14:54 2012 No.2823416 >>2823408 Calm down dude. It is lit related for obvious reasons. If you dont think so ignore it. Otherwise stop being a douche.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 12:16:54 2012 No.2823419 >>2823403 i meant this guy >>2823408 sorry dude

Anonymous Thu Jul 19 12:16:54 2012 No.2823420

>>2823403

Actually, I've noticed that 'summer' (such as it is on other boards) doesn't apply so much here. The standard of posting, which is basically tolerable, seems pretty consistent. Having said that, the autumn (fall) and late winter weeks are the best times here. In fact, those are the best times for all things literary.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 12:17:54 2012 No.2823424 >>2823413 the post you're responding to was clearly made to mock those who were suggesting that this thread does not belong on /lit/. just say'n

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 12:18:54 2012 No.2823428 >>2823420 >>2823419 >>2823416 >>2823413 >2012 >Reading Comprehension

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 12:28:55 2012 No.2823450 >>2821189 Nice. Mine is Madrid. Pretty shite compared to Alcalá, considering it was only a village until the 16th century. Some great authors had lived there though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 12:31:55 2012 No.2823457 >>2819349 Where in edinburgh?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 12:38:55 2012 No.2823466 I love living in NYC.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 12:43:56 2012 No.2823476 >>2823457 Was about to ask the same thing. I'm in Marchmont

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 12:44:56 2012 No.2823478 My nearest City is bath, which, theater and Austen center aside, its not that literary (Austen actually detested the place) University City is Stoke which has almost nothing to offer in this department.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 12:45:56 2012 No.2823481 File: 13 KB, 200x267, A_Kestrel_for_a_Knave[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Barnsley, erm, we have this

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 12:47:57 2012 No.2823488 South London born and bred. Doesn't get much better.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 13:00:30 2012 No.2823513 Vancouver Rainy, comfortable, expensive, good transit, Chinese food is cheaper than water. Lots of poetry readings, big zine scene if you're not too haughty for Eastvan and communist bookshops. Wouldn't want to live anywhere else.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 13:07:46 2012 No.2823529 >>2823513 oh god the chinese food is incredible. You're talking about that anarchist/DIY bookshop on the second floor, right? Close to the marijuana block? Where are you located, breh? Are you going to school out at UBC?

Anonymous Thu Jul 19 13:09:46 2012 No.2823533

Closest city to me is Derry, Northern Ireland (or Londonderry, depending on whether you're Protestant or Catholic; Nationalist or Unionist).

I don't even live in Northern Ireland. I live in Donegal, which is the furthest northern county in the Republic of Ireland. This place is a shithole in terms of literature and the arts. There's a whole lot of history to do with the Black and Tans and the IRA, though, which is kind of interesting, I guess.

In the village I live in, however, there is a monument dedicated to a storyteller named Seamus McManus, which is pretty neat.

Anonymous Thu Jul 19 13:12:46 2012 No.2823537

>>2823529
That one and Spartacus were the ones that came to mind. I'm right downtown, 3 blocks from VPL. Not enrolled in anything, just working and fucking around. Used to live above a Chinese market on Gore. Clique-yness of the different regions is great.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 13:15:49 2012 No.2823543 >Manchester I don't even know

Anonymous Thu Jul 19 13:16:49 2012 No.2823546

>>2823537
Ah, I love the VPL. I'm tutoring a bunch of people in the coffeeshop across from the entrance right now. Downtown is a bit too busy for me, though. I like the Broadway corridor closer to UBC for walkability and the richness of the inhabitants.

Share with me some of your favourite restaurants.

I'm into Phnom Penh for dry noodles and garlic chicken wings, Hawker's Delite on Main for Singaporean street food, Any Pho shack in town, and the Izakayas to get drunk and eat fried food.

Haven't actually eaten a steak in an embarrassingly long time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 13:17:49 2012 No.2823549 >New Orleans Way more /mu/ than /lit/, but we hold our own I would say.

Anonymous Thu Jul 19 13:34:40 2012 No.2823581

>>2823546
I don't mind the activity, I get a high from being downtown at night, just feels so right. Sushisushi on West Broadway, right near baywater has the best rolls in town, Maenam on west 4th for thai, and Ovaltine cafe right down on EH/Main, mostly for memories. I'm totally undiscerning with pho shacks because they're all good, usually just whatever is closest.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 15:07:29 2012 No.2823764 >>2821067 Didn't have any in the first place either - that 'cathedral' would have been barely a London minor church if in the UK. Shut the fuck up about the earthquake.

Anonymous Thu Jul 19 15:36:34 2012 No.2823825
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I thinks Hamburg is doing pretty shit-tier for it's size and history.

All /lit-related people I can think of for now are Wolfgang Borchers (poet), Ralph Giordano, Klopstock, Fritz J. Raddatz (famous German critic) and Arno Schmidt.

And of course we have Thomas Mann's Buddenbrooks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 15:53:36 2012 No.2823853 >>2821141 >>2821141 Hey Missouri bro, what school do you go to?

Anonymous Thu Jul 19 15:53:36 2012 No.2823854

Frankfurt, Germany.

We have the Frankfurt Book Fair every year, which is the largest book and media fair in the world, with around 7500 exhibitors from over 110 countries.

We have Goethe. Schopenhauer is buried in the city cemetary. COUNTLESS amounts of great book stores, nice literature-based cafes, and such. Literature is a very important part of life here.

The trains, buses, street cars, and park benches are filled with reading people. On public transportation, it's unusual to see a person not reading a book.

I love this place.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 15:54:36 2012 No.2823858 >Bumfuck, Virginia It's not

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 15:55:36 2012 No.2823859 >>2823854 It's such an ugly city though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 15:57:36 2012 No.2823866 York, England. Lots of nice little cafes and second-hand bookshops. Shame Borders shut down

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 15:59:36 2012 No.2823870 >>2823859 A couple places (around the main train station) are a bit ugly, but there are constantly improvements being made. In the business district, Sachsenhausen, the opera house area, and the old town it is beautiful. Lots of parks too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 16:00:36 2012 No.2823871 Children's book writer Bruce Coville is from my city. You might have read some of his books as a kid (My Teacher is an Alien, etc)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 16:11:10 2012 No.2823904 I used to live in Edinburgh too, I miss it. I now live in Grays, Essex. There's nothing here and there never will be.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 16:17:10 2012 No.2823918 >>2823543 >Anthony Burgess nigger.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 16:23:13 2012 No.2823925 Louisville, Kentucky >Birthplace of Hunter S. Thompson >Influenced Fitzgerald and gets a mention in The Great Gatsby >Various writer's shops and nifty bookstores here. >Old Louisville has tons of Victorian architecture. >Parks, parks everywhere.

Anonymous Thu Jul 19 16:33:13 2012 No.2823943

>>2823866
I love Atlanta, but not for the lit scene--there isn't one. barely any bookstores, either indie or big box (A cappella is awesome, though.) The main library and the branches I've been to are decent, though I haven't been in a while. We have the Margaret Mitchell house, which is a bit of a misnomer since it's the building she rented an apt in while she wrote Gone With the Wind. haven't been because I haven't read it and its expensive.

the only other thing I can think of amounts to trivia: Ambrose Bierce was stationed here during the Civil War and there's a plaque in midtown where his unit fought or something. that's it.

Anonymous Thu Jul 19 16:59:24 2012 No.2823972
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Vienna, Austria

>historically a center of culture and art, the most important city in the German language area regarding music
>literature peaked in the early 20th century with authors closely linked to the cities coffee culture (Karl Kraus, von Hofmannsthal, Robert Musil, Peter Altenberg, Thomas Bernhard in the second half of the 20th century)
>inhabitants and authors especially have the reputation of being pedantic, notorious grumblers, pessimists and morbid persons with a deeply black sense of humor

It's a great city to live in (very green, very clean not too crowded, great inner city, cafes, architecture...) and while it's writers may not have that much of an international reputation today, maybe even because their writing is so closely linked to the city itself in many cases, I absolutely love the literature it has spawned.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 17:04:26 2012 No.2823980 New York City Lol

Anonymous Thu Jul 19 17:04:26 2012 No.2823981

>>2823972

I've been thinking about planning a trip to Vienna. I try to go to a beautiful, historic city for a couple of weeks whenever I've saved enough money to travel - last month I went to Oxford, Verona in January, etc. - and I think Austria might be next on my list. Incidentally, I also live in Edinburgh. It's much nicer to live in than London.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 17:08:26 2012 No.2823985 >>2819730 >doesn't think Baltimore is dangerous Owings Mills isn't Baltimore you sheltered JAP

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 17:17:26 2012 No.2823999 File: 173 KB, 250x381, 250px-Ciudad_de_Temuco.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Temuco, Chile, pure shit. >Gabriela Mistral hated Temuco >Pablo Neruda loved it NOTHING ELSE.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 19:13:51 2012 No.2824295 I love Montreal. Big city, not overrun and dirty like Toronto. French people aren't illiterate book haters, french people also love good films. Hottest women in canada. High ratio of flawless pixie girls. Peace niggas

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 20:35:38 2012 No.2824542 Boston. Were just a bunch of wanna be new yorkers with some fancy colleges, think we have shit? I hate being from there.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 20:43:39 2012 No.2824562 >>2824542 >implying we won't have our own bloomsday with gately and incandenza days in 10 years

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 21:14:25 2012 No.2824645 New York is New York.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 21:16:26 2012 No.2824650 Does Stratford, Ontario, Canada count for much (on account for world famous Shakespearean Festival)?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 21:19:25 2012 No.2824662 >>2824650 No.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 21:26:25 2012 No.2824684 >>2824650 It counts as much as Paris, Texas.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 21:27:25 2012 No.2824687 El Paso Fuck, 90% of the people here don't even speak English.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 21:36:30 2012 No.2824699 Louise d'Épinay and Jean Froissart are from the town glued to the one I live in. Jean Douby is from the one I live in.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 20 00:07:14 2012 No.2825041 I genuinely enjoy knowing where /lit/ lurkers live

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 20 00:09:14 2012 No.2825045 Seattle All of our literary accomplishments have left, or are about ready to die. Shit sucks.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 20 00:14:15 2012 No.2825053 Dallas, nobody gives a shit. I doubt anyone worth a damn came from here. The only thing this city claims is a shit skyline and the fact that JFK got murdered here.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 20 00:19:15 2012 No.2825069 >>2824542 Boston has this weird little brother complex when it comes to New York. I never really got why.

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