/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.2812926]

I don't get it /lit/, sexually I'm pretty vanilla, but the Misfortunes of Virtue seriously aroused me. Anyone else get a whyboner from Sade?

[Anonymous No.2812939]

pic related; the phenomenon in question

[Anonymous No.2812942]

I tell you what, he's got two thumbs and an awkward erection.

I chalk it up to taboo. Not supposed to even think about it, so it's exciting. Doesn't mean you have to like it in reality. Akin to women with rape fantasies, or men who like futa. Real rape and real trannies aren't the automatic endpoints, respectively.

[Anonymous No.2812953]

>>2812942
Interesting point.

Also, what in the flying fuck was with the ending? throughout the entire book Sade gives a million examples of virtue's worthlessness and then completely turns around in the span of the last two sentences and reverses everything he'd written it was really jarring. It felt like the editor had taken extreme liberties with the plot to make it publishable.

[Anonymous No.2812962]

As the other poster said it's a taboo.
It's no more than fantasies in your head and you fully know they'll never get concrete so enjoying the forbidden becomes even sweeter as you'll face no consequences.

Some people are fascinated with the morbid, sometimes I enjoy that physical sensation of revulsion and curiosity while reading something uncomfortable.

[Anonymous No.2812967]

>>2812953
Strictly from an up-its-own-ass academic perspective, I think of those endings (which crop up frequently in erotic writing) as the metaphorical moment of ejaculation. When one masturbates to this material, one degrades, utterly and thoroughly, the subject. One manipulates the subject, putting it through hell and back, up until the moment of little death. After climax, one reverts back to "normal", to a state where mere nudity becomes a humiliating offense against the self.

I like to think Sade does it deliberately, but I won't try to argue that it absolutely isn't the editor at work either. It's one of those uncertainties lit majors have to suffer.

[Faggots errywhere No.2812973]

>>2812939
learn2colon

pun intended

[Anonymous No.2813012]

>>2812953
Are you reading the short version? Justine is the short one, The New Justine is the definitive one. How many pages is it? And could you spoiler and post those sentences? I'm curious, since in the ending of my version I can find nothing like that. As far as the plot goes, don't forget the possibility that Sade was merely fucking with you.

To answer your question, I find Sade's work to be a nice exploration of my own sexuality. He basically gives you the whole spectrum of depravaties to wade through and you can see what you like. There's a very distinct portion of his work that might arouse me, but somethings don't get to that point and most things are way beyond it. Basically I like the power dynamics, not the gore and snuff and all that. I think the psychological aspect of dominance and submission is far more interesting than actually inflicting pain.

[Anonymous No.2813091]

De Sade's books are meant to be read with only one hand.

[Anonymous No.2813092]

>>2812973
Nobody cares if your puns were intended.
People who point out their puns are like comedians who explain their jokes: they both think you're too stupid to get it. The only good thing about the phrase "pun intended" is that it saves you time when you want to say "hello, I'm going to be at the bag convention this weekend, please be sure to stop by and say 'hi.' I'll be at the douche exhibit." Here's the deal: when you point out your puns, you're making a value judgement on me, the reader. You're saying:
Hey reader, you see that play on words I just made? Yeah, well that wasn't an accident. In fact, I thought it was so clever that I didn't think your simple mind would be able to comprehend the brilliance of my play on words, and I wanted to make sure you know that I'm not only smart enough to use homonyms, but that I'm smart enough to point them out.
The sheer level of narcissism it takes to think that anyone gives a shit about whether or not you meant to write your pun is mind boggling. If narcissism were measured in units of mass, the skulls of people who pointed out puns would crush in on themselves in a giant black hole of stupidity.

[Anonymous No.2813148]

>>2813012
No, it was the long one with the title just being, "The Misfortunes of Virtue."

[Faggots errywhere No.2813157]

>>2813092
You are a master minded satirist anon, just remember I love you.

[Anonymous No.2813163]

>>2813148
Can you quote the sentences then?

[Benny Profane !!muO1YE/mn/J No.2813169]

>>2812953

Yeah, I thought the very end was a total cop-out on Sade's part. It seems like the entire message he was trying to convey was just thrown out the window in an attempt to be 'accessible' or something. He lays out his philosophy very clearly throughout the entire book, and in the end, he's just like Fuck it, nevermind, be a good virtuous girl and everything will be okay. Forget everything I said the entire time.

I wonder if his original text had a different ending and he decided to change it.

Also, I had a raging boner throughout most of the book. Chock it up to taboo, as has been said.

[Anonymous No.2813176]

The part in 120 days where the girls squirt milk out their ass into the friends coffee's got me hard, although
I had already thought of it

[Anonymous No.2813177]

120 Days of Sodom was really boring. The same shit on every page.

I'm glad he didn't finish it.

[Faggots errywhere No.2813182]

>>2813157
Or is that satyrist

i've got a boner

[Anonymous No.2813197]

>>2813163
My copy is with my mother on the other side of the country, sorry. Look up an e-book version and skip to the end maybe?
>>2813169
Agreed. I was rock fucking hard for most of that book, which is kind of awkward because I only ever read it at work.

[Anonymous No.2813199]

>>2813197
Good thread.

Question to OP and people in the thread, anyone read Casanova's memoirs?

[Anonymous No.2813293]

I weirdest boner I ever got was from reading the Wild Boys. Ohhh boy.

[Anonymous No.2813301]

>>2813092
>they both think you're too stupid to get it

[Anonymous No.2813326]

OK, Sade has been adequately discussed so let's alter the topic. What books do you find enjoyable erotic and why? Bonus points: have any of you ever beat off to a book?

I once beat off to Shadows of the Empire, yes, it's a starwars book. I was like 11 and my porn collection consisted of an oft borrowed Macy's catalogue, don't judge me.

[Anonymous No.2813334]

>>2813326
That's not even a good Expanded Universe novel, dude...

(There are no good Expanded Universe novels. Except Star By Star.)

[Anonymous No.2813339]

>>2813334
I was 11 and I got off on prince what's his name seducing leia. The shame is too great.

[Anonymous No.2813378]

>>2813293

[Anonymous No.2814681]

>>2813378
It's some type of Mad Max goes boy love by Burroughs, right?

Sounds weird.

[Anonymous No.2814742]

>>2813339
I think the first time I actually got horny was a re-telling of the Trojan War, the author had written it where Paris was so overcome by Venus that he picked her despite his best interests, and the idea of someone being so overwhelmed sexually that he was a slave to his desires got me really hard.

[Anonymous No.2814746]

>>2814742
>mfw