/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.2800190]

>Implying Hip Hop hasn't made normal poetry obsolete

[Anonymous No.2800196]

>>2800190
Poetry is still acceptable for the very white among us though.

[Anonymous No.2800198]

>Implying I don't go out at night and stab hip-hoppers in the face.

[Anonymous No.2800214]

>>2800190
This thread will be made of faggots who don't know shit about poetry saying shitty hip hop is poetry and people who don't know shit about hip hop saying that there is no good hip hop.

[Anonymous No.2800213]

>>2800198
>implying anyone would care even if you did

[kisses !!5X8GuwYQkUr No.2800230]

[Anonymous No.2800236]

But man I ain’t never seen an ass like hers
That pussy in my mouth had me at a loss for words
I told her to back it up like burp burp
And make that ass jump like shczerp shczerp

And that’s when she said I'm lick like a lollipop
She said l-l-lick like a lollipop
She said lick like a lollipop
Shawty said like a lollipop

Shawty wanna thug
Bottles in the club
Shawty wanna hump
And ooh I like to touch ya lovely lady lumps

[Anonymous No.2800237]

>implying it has

Hip hop lyrics, even the best, are generally stupid and inarticulate. Small, y'know? Sometimes hip hop is catchy and funny. That's about it. It's pop music not intentful art.

Please don't post a link some awful conscious underground rubbish that uses long words like "pyroclastic" a lot.

[Anonymous No.2800240]

"The Psycho-Social, Chemical, Biological & Electro-Magnetic Manipulation of Human Consciousness" is some of the most difficult and densely allusive verse of the twentieth century.

[Anonymous No.2800244]

Get up, like you make it up, don't stop
Drop it shawty, drop it like it's hot
Drop, dr-dr-drop it like it's hot
Do it shawty, don't stop

Shawty said the nigga that she with ain’t shit
Shawty said the nigga that she with ain’t this
Shawty said the nigga that she with can't hit
But shawty I'ma hit it, hit it like I can't miss

And he can’t do this, and he don’t do that
Shawty needa a refund need to bring that nigga back
Just like a refund I make her bring that ass back
And she bring that ass back, because I like that

[Anonymous No.2800254]

BIX NOOD MUG FUGGA

[Anonymous No.2800265]

You know it makes me unhappy (what's that)
When brothas make babies, and leave a young mother to be a pappy
And since we all came from a woman
Got our name from a woman and our game from a woman
I wonder why we take from our women
Why we rape our women, do we hate our women?
I think it's time to kill for our women
Time to heal our women, be real to our women
And if we don't we'll have a race of babies
That will hate the ladies, that make the babies
And since a man can't make one
He has no right to tell a woman when and where to create one
So will the real men get up
I know you're fed up ladies, but keep your head up

[Anonymous No.2800270]

>claiming relevance
>not embracing burgeoning trends regardless of your associations
>not understanding that Hip Hop has replaced folk, jazz, funk, R&B, and blues
>being a reactionary

how does this part work again

[Anonymous No.2800274]

My veins are poppin from this love inside,
I just can't let it out.
This pipe and these needles are my only guide,
They've got me on the wrong route,
What is my life about?
Living in the shadows of a man I've never seen,
and dreaming like a lonely child.
I know your brothers and your sister and your mother too,
How I wish you could see them too.

So can I come to see you sometime,
Cause I been missing you?
I've never heard you cry I've never seen you while
I'm feeling oh so young,
But still I must die to get to you.
And if I do I wonder how just you will see me,
and implicate the things I've done.
I'm dying in the shadows of this man I've never seen
I'll see you soon,
Now where's my gun?

[Anonymous No.2800278]

>>2800270

>not understanding that Hip Hop has replaced folk, jazz, funk, R&B, and blues

I can accept that. It's pop music. OP said it has replaced poetry. That's bollocks.

Also, hiphop is pretty much the cultural default these days. Rejecting it is to be sticks one in the vanguard.

Foshizzle bruv.

[Anonymous No.2800286]

Poetry is much less popular today than it has been, but I don't think that's a direct result of hip hop.

[Anonymous No.2800290]

Obsolete? Nah. But many would-be good poets are instead rappers, sure.

Relentless poetic rhyme never ceases infinity
Forever smokin' the mic lyric contact I be open
Naturally high and no need to pass the Dutchie
I'm the living circle circle dot dot, nobody can touch me
At my post, the most high exalted, mind blower
When I rap it it's strictly, I can't believe he just said that shit
Material crews, who can't think straight sober
My flows over your head, I enjoy the aerial view

Focus from the bird's eye, in my scenario, of dominance
Filth eatin' weaklings, we're bum rushin' like dirty communists
Raisin', my Iron Curtain revealin' my words the gospel
No apples or giant serpents, the enlightened apostle
J-Treds, I lace heads like tennis players top seeded
Not meanin' to cause a racket, or front the menace
My words speak for themselves, so feel me
'Cause on the mic I've got more presence
Than attendance in a class of schizophrenics, hear hear

[Anonymous No.2800297]

>>2800286
Partially hip-hop, but mainly because poetry is shit when not set to music.

[Anonymous No.2800304]

Peace, yo peace! he ain't dead, the nigga don't sleep
He just gone awakened from the dream of life
It we, lost up in these stormy visions, who keep with phantoms and broke ass strife,
In a mad fuckin' trance, strike with our spirit knife
Invulnerable nothings we decay
Like corpses in a morgue, yo, fear and grief
Convulse us and consume us day by fuckin day,
And cold hopes swarm like worms within living clay.
Still the One remains if the many change and pass;
Heaven light shinin' on over Earth's shadow ass
Life, like a dome of many-coloured glass,
Stains the white radiance of Eternity,
Until Death tramples it down to fragments. — Die!
If a nigga wanna be with that he go seeks
Follow where y'all fled— Compton's bright blue sky,
Flowers, ruins, statues, music, words, weak
The glory they transfuse with fitting truth to speak.

[Anonymous No.2800309]

Implying there is abnormal poetry
verygreentixt

[Anonymous No.2800313]

>>2800286
It's really not, poetry (bar feudal Japan and China) has always been a niche field

[Anonymous No.2800314]

>>2800290
>Obsolete? Nah. But many would-be good poets are instead rappers, sure.

Read those lyrics line for line and you'll realize he's just babbling.
Those two verses can be summed up as "I'm a better rapper than you", a statement that has been mimicked by rapper for fucking decades and one that they STILL haven't noticed the irony of. Do you think his expression of this common sentiment is particularly compelling? He's kind of all over the place in imagery and rhythm.

Far, far from poetry.

[Anonymous No.2800328]

A good amount of poetry is about love It's uninteresting, just like rap's crotch-grabbing. I'm impressed when either side does something different.

[Anonymous No.2800340]

>>2800314
Hip-hop's subject matter is generally rather cliche and stagnant, sure.

However, the 'digressive' imagery and rhythm are just their style and isn't necessarily bad or good. The rhyme scheme is dynamic and in turn keeps the rhythm interesting and when read produces a nice melody just as a good poem would.

It's no masterpiece, but it shows rappers are some form of modern-day poets.

[Anonymous No.2800342]

>>2800297
Only three written works have ever brought me to tears. One was poetry.

[Anonymous No.2800356]

>>2800342
Go on then, what was this poem that made you cry?

[Anonymous No.2800357]

>>2800342
What work?

[Anonymous No.2800367]

>>2800342
Die Bürgschaft by Schiller.
Even though I knew the story, it just kept getting more and more tense. I couldn't help it when he finally saved his friend.

[Anonymous No.2800379]

I haunt MC's like Mephistopheles, bringin' swords of Damocles
Secret Service keep a close watch as if my name was Kennedy
Abstract raps simple with a street format
Gaze into the sky and measure planets by parallax

Check out the retrograde motion, kill the notion
Of bitin' and recyclin' and callin' it your own creation
I feel like Rockwell, 'Somebody's watching me'
I got no privacy whether on land or at sea

And for you bitin' zealots, your raps are cacophonic
Hypocrite, critic but deep inside you wish you had the pop hit
It hurts don't it, a ReFugee come to your turf
And take over the earth

From the biggest goddamn hip-hop album of the 90s.

[Anonymous No.2800406]

Howd you know
Cuz I was there
Yeah that shit go
Came prepared
Set it slow rolled
Anticipation grow slow
Deviated septum blow hole
Sugar cane ko ko
Aye, aye, pass the dro my way
Or no way twenty fo no 25-8
Thought you knew
Suicide lane
Fuck you

hnnngggg

[Anonymous No.2800437]

Babylon, Babylon,
At my window all I see is 'Babylon',
On the news all I see is ,Babylon',
And all niggers do is just babble on.

Wish I could see out Haile Selassie' eye -
Maybe my sovereignty would still be mine
If all the gangs in the world unified,
We’d stand a chance against the military tonight
I said we’d stand a chance against the military tonight!

[Anonymous No.2800456]

>>2800367

I cried last night reading Whitman's "Crossing Brooklyn Ferry"

I have never cried listening to a hip hop record

[Anonymous No.2800462]

>>2800379
I still listen to that. One of the greatest hiphop albums ever. Especially lyrically.

[Anonymous No.2800466]

>>2800304


those are decent lyrics

[Anonymous No.2800469]

>>2800456
>not crying at brother ali's /r9k/ raps

[Anonymous No.2800486]

Unemployment at a record highs
People coming, people going, people born to die
Don't ask me, because I don't know why
But it's like that, and that's the way it is

People in the world tryin to make ends meet
You try to ride car, train, bus, or feet
I said you got to work hard, you want to compete
It's like that, and that's the way it is
Huh!

Money is the key to end all your woes
Your ups, your downs, your highs and your lows
Won't you tell me the last time that love bought you clothes?
It's like that, and that's the way it is

Bills rise higher every day
We receive much lower pay
I'd rather stay young, go out and play
It's like that, and that's the way it is
Huh!

Wars going on across the sea
Street soldiers killing the elderly
Whatever happened to unity?
It's like that, and that's the way it is

Disillusion is the word
That's used by me when I'm not heard
I just go through life with my glasses blurred
It's like that, and that's the way it is
Huh!

You can see a lot in this lifespan
Like a bum eating out of a garbage can
You noticed one time he was your man
It's like that (what?) and that's the way it is

...

[Anonymous No.2800492]

>>2800486

You can see a lot in this lifespan
Like a bum eating out of a garbage can
You noticed one time he was your man
It's like that (what?) and that's the way it is

You should have gone to school, you could've learned a trade
But you laid in the bed where the bums have laid
Now all the time you're crying that you're underpaid
It's like that (what?) and that's the way it is
Huh!

One thing I know is that life is short
So listen up homeboy, give this a thought
The next time someone's teaching why don't you get taught?
It's like that (what?) and that's the way it is

If you really think about it times aren't that bad
The one that flexes with successes will make you glad
Stop playing start praying, you won't be sad
It's like that (what?) and that's the way it is
Huh!

When you feel you fail sometimes it hurts
For a meaning in life is why you search
Take the bus or the train, drive to school or the church
It's like that, and that's the way it is

Here's another point in life you should not miss
Do not be a fool who's prejudiced
Because we're all written down on the same list
It's like that (what?) and that's the way it is
Huh!

You know it's like that, and that's the way it is
Because it's like that, and that's the way it is


>mfw this is deeper than anything. It goes all the way back from every abstraction and it lands directly in reality.
>mfw I have no face

[Anonymous No.2800494]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSo1Ug4a24k

whycantiholdthesefeels.jpeg

[Anonymous No.2800505]

>>2800492
Is that the shitty everlast acoustic song?

[Anonymous No.2800507]

>when niggers think they can poetry
>turn off the music and it suddenly sucks
lyrics are just shit-tier poetry swept underneath a rug of musical notes/bad samples and uninspired beats

[Anonymous No.2800533]

>>2800328
it's pretty varied though

[Anonymous No.2800575]

>>2800328
>A good amount of poetry is about love
lol. you're adorable.

[Anonymous No.2800588]

>>2800575
Different anon here, who's read shitloads of poetry both Classical and modern, face it, man, love poems are the majority. Next comes religious (which almost always include love anyhow like Petrarch, Dante, or Donne), then war, then socio-political commentary (often within the war poem), then cats (why I don't know, but anyone who's extensively read poetry knows damn well what I mean), then everything else.

[Anonymous No.2800593]

>>2800588
http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/article/244232

[Anonymous No.2800597]

>>2800588
>not placing getting fucked up and getting pussy in before cats in the last century or two of poetry

[Anonymous No.2800602]

>>2800597
I wasn't talking about in the last century. There are ancient poems about cats, I shit you not. Propertius used them in his works, if I recall correctly, and there are ancient Egyptian poems about them, just for two examples.

[Anonymous No.2800606]

>>2800588
>claims to be an "expert"
>claims cats are in top 5 of poetry subjects
please leave

[Anonymous No.2800608]

>>2800602
Didn't they already write about getting a buzz on as well though?

Surely intoxication is more important to people than cats.

[Anonymous No.2800609]

Truly, My Satan, thou art but a Dunce,
And dost not know the Garment from the Man;
Every Harlot was a Virgin once,
Nor can'st thou ever change Kate into Nan.

Tho' thou art Worship'd by the Names Divine
Of Jesus and Jehovah, thou art still
The Son of Morn in weary Night's decline,
The lost Traveller's Dream under the Hill.

[Anonymous No.2800611]

>>2800606
Cats are further down then five, but they are all over the fucking place in poetry.

[Anonymous No.2800612]

>>2800611
further down the list than*

[Anonymous No.2800615]

>>2800606
Also I'm not an expert and didn't claim to be at all. I said read, not studied.

[Anonymous No.2800618]

>>2800588
Funny that you didn't mention Nature or Death seeing as Pastoral and Elegiac poetry is pretty common.

[Anonymous No.2800624]

Half of either are religious as well, but yeah... it's a shitty list that I came up with off the top of my head and I mentioned cats for humor and now I've got pedants swarming me.

[Anonymous No.2800627]

Rap yes, gangsta rap no.

Gangsta rap has become a celebration of illiteracy and there are no more poets there, only keen businessmen.

[Anonymous No.2800628]

>>2800624
>tried humour
>people beat him down and spat on him

this is one of the worst boards on 4chan

it was actually decent when Deep&Edgy was here because he embodied /lit/ to such an extreme he transcended it and actually made it funny, D&E was /lit/s apotheosis. God has died.

[Anonymous No.2800641]

>>2800628
Indeed. At the time bb threads and D&E's 'edginess were amusing shitposts, but looking back they were actually quality and I miss 'em.

[Anonymous No.2800644]

the concept of obsolescence is obsolete