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2739777 No.2739777 [Reply] [Original]

Could we get a /lit/ info thread going? Not really recommendations, but some info pics.

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>> No.2739788

no thanks

>> No.2739793
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Like these? I don't really understand what you're wanting. These are still recommendations.

>> No.2739809

>>2739793
No forbidden colors? WTF?!?

>> No.2739813

>>2739777
>Dark Tower in God and Shit Tier

>> No.2739814

>>2739809
I don't think those charts are trying to cover an author's entire oeuvre. Just showing you where to get into them initially. At some point you'll hopefully know enough to choose the next book you want to read on your own.

>> No.2739818

>>2739813
>can't see the book numbers
>il/lit/erate

>> No.2739820

>>2739813
I'm also intrigued by this. What happened when it hit v5?

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>>2739777
Eragon should not be on that list. Not even for shit tier.

Or, if it has to bethere , it should be on "derivative to the point of outright plagiarism tier."

>> No.2739850

>>2739829
>plagiarism
Care to explain?

>> No.2739852

>>2739850
Let's look at this list, for starters.

*Ardwen - Arwen
*Isenstar - Isengard
*Mithrim - Mithrim
*Angrenost - Angrenost
*Morgothal - Morgoth
*Elessari - Elessar
*Furnost - Fornost
*Hadarac Desert - Harad Desert
*Melian - Melian
*Vanilor - Valinor
*Eridor - Eriador
*Imiladris - Imladris
*Undin - Fundin/Udun
*Gil'ead - Gil'Galad
*Ceranthor - Caranthir
*Isidar - Isiludir
*Eragon - Aragorn

>> No.2739856

>>2739852
holy shit

>> No.2739859

can someone post the second part of op's infopic?

>> No.2739857

>>2739852
And then aside from that, the story of Eragon and its characters come straight from Star Wars, and the magic system is lifted word for fucking word from A Wizard of Earthsea.

>> No.2739890

>>2739777
>The Master and Margarita
>fantasy

Fucking kill yourself. Also, 1001 Nights and the Odyssey contain fantastical elements, but you can hardly put ancient epics in the same category as Stephen King.

>> No.2739930

>>2739859
this

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>> No.2740037

>>2740011
fucking norse were huge misogynists

>> No.2740048

>>2739777
No really. We're at /lit/ not /tv/, every /lit/erate people knows that George R. R. Martin is a bad writer. So, why putting him in the God Tier ?

>> No.2740051

>>2740037
The advice they give about women is pretty solid, actually. Basically, don't trust them because they're lying hoes.

>> No.2740062

>>2740051
Yeah it's probably because they were all gay and shit.
probably had some fun in those boats of theirs.

>> No.2740073

>>2740062
They probably were gay as fuck.
I can't imagine how dudes today would treat women if we all fucked each other.

>> No.2740077

On the topic of homosexuality:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in9SiDtJLaU

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>>2740037
>>2740051
>>2740062
>>2740073
www.wyrdwords.vispa.com/heathenry/mysoginist.html

humans are retards though

>> No.2740110

>>2740048
> George R. R. Martin is a bad writer.

Fucking this, holy shit.
Twilight for teenage boys.

>> No.2740130

>>2740062
>>2740073
Actually I remember reading some scholarly article somewhere in my university library about Vikings being very homophobic.

Something about how magic was something that women practiced, because to the Vikings magic was for girls for some reason, and Odin's whole wizard thing was another example of his sacrifices for humanity, because he was giving up a bit of his masculinity by being a wizard.

Or something.

>> No.2740132

>>2740130
More proof they were repressed homosexuals.

and they all targeted weak people too

bunch of faggots

>> No.2740145

>>2740110
The general consensus seems to be that his prose sucks but prose isn't the only thing that makes a writer. Surely we can give him some credit for the world he created and all of his complex characters?

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>>2740037
>fucking norse were huge misogynists

Nordic women were allowed to divorce without their husband's consent and own property under their own name.

Also some got to fight in combat.

>> No.2740153

>>2740037
nice racism

>> No.2740170

>>2740153
fuck off cis scum.

>> No.2740176

I wish fantasy and science fiction would be given its own board so that these threads will stop polluting /lit/.

>> No.2740177

>>2740170
wha?

>> No.2740182

>>2740176
I wish that some of you would stop being so pretentious as to immediately brush off any work of "genre" fiction as trash.

>hurr durr this story has a specific setting now I have to hate it

>> No.2740185

What is the point in reading a book that is not set on this planet?

>> No.2740186

>>2740185
Fantasy/sci-fi fans are lonely, pathetic fucks that read books for escapism.

>> No.2740188

>>2740186
Reading for escapism?! What monster would do such a thing!?

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>>2740188
The neckbear has been known to read for escapism.

>> No.2740192

>>2740145
There's more to "not-prose" than complex worlds. (I don`t find his characters to be particularly notable by the way; I doubt I'm alone in this.)

Lackadaisical prose aside, he's not terribly incredible, though he does have plenty of merit as you've suggested.

>> No.2740197

>>2740188

the plebeian populace

>> No.2740199

DEATH TO THE CIS SCUM

>> No.2740200

>>2740192
>(I don`t find his characters to be particularly notable by the way; I doubt I'm alone in this.)

Lots of people seem to think that they're great characters because they're all amoral/blatantly immoral and that makes them terribly complex, somehow.

People who think that "moralfags" like Frodo and Superman and whoever are bad characters because they have a tough moral fiber, and even if they face temptation they always overcome it in the end.

I don't really get it.

>> No.2740202

>>2740199
what are you talking about?

>> No.2740206

>>2740202
I think he is talking about cis scum.

>> No.2740208

>>2740206
i don't konw what that is

>> No.2740211

>>2740208
It's the politically correct term transgendered people use for normal people.

>> No.2740214

>>2740208
CIS stands for the Commonwealth of Independent states. This is from the wikipedia page:

>The Commonwealth of Independent States is a regional organization whose participating countries are former Soviet Republics, formed during the breakup of the Soviet Union.

So I guess the guy thinks the population of CIS are scum and should die. Who knew /lit/ would be prone to such vile, baseless racism.

>> No.2740212

>>2740208
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2V2QVvJlt4

>> No.2740216

>>2740211
>>2740212
so it's like when homos call us normals "breeders".. or what?

>> No.2740217

>>2740216
Yes

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>God tier
>Name of the Wind

Pick one.

>> No.2740550

>>2740548
You know nothing, Jon Snow.

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>>2740212

>> No.2740564

>>2740149

Same with Ancient Egypt minus the whole battle thing. Women then could run their own business too.

>> No.2740576

Abercrombie in okay-tier!? This is the first time I'm angry on /lit/. OP, you suck!

>> No.2740690

>>2739859
I can't, but here's a version I saved once.

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>>2740690
derp

>> No.2740705

>>2739793
Wow, I've accidentally started in the right place

>> No.2740707

>>2740692
>the dark is rising
God-tier kids books

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I thought this would be a great thread but there are only 4 images in the whole fucking thread

>> No.2740731

>>2740726
>I thought this would be a great thread
You're on /lit/, friend.

>> No.2740793

>>2740011
The Kalevala has nothing to do with vikings. I should know, I'm a Finn and I've read it twice. It's a brilliant book, though. I recommend it to anyone who enjoys mythology, sorcery, death, incest, tragic romance and great characters.

>> No.2740795

>>2740793
I liked the Saga of Kullervo.

>> No.2740805

>>2740795
That's my favorite part too.

>> No.2740823

>>2740726

Why you and OP don't just read the Wiki I don't know.

>> No.2740829

>>2740823
The wiki is lame as hell, I was hoping this board might have more interesting pictures than ''essential drama'' ''essential theater''

>> No.2740843

Glad I caught this thread. I'm looking for fantasy books with a lot of blood and gore. People smashing each other up with war-hammers and getting blood and guts all over their black beards...

Anyone got anything like that? Like a hardcore version of Conan/The Hobbit?

>> No.2740856

>>2740829
They're informative. That's what info pics do. We don't have shitty tiers here.

>> No.2740878

>>2740073

Viking men were actually some of the most popular among the medieval ladies, mainly because they practiced pretty good hygiene for the era.

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>> No.2740910

>>2740894
I've never understood why this terrible image made the wiki

>> No.2740936

I'm sorry but the First Law series and everything Joe Abercrombie writes is golden.

Should be in God Tier if you ask me, just an opinion.

>> No.2740940

>>2740910
>terrible
Care to explain?

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I got one. Some anon made this a while ago.

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>>2740943
Aaaaand the second part.

>> No.2740952

>>2740910
Because nobody ever bothered to edit it. I told people dozens of times to do it because I made it lazily and then out of laziness never re-made it. It should be done with a lot more separation between time periods and styles to make it more comprehensive and not listing just a dozen well-known poets with "skill" levels distinguished according to nothing.

>> No.2740958

>>2740943
That's fairly subtle for a troll image

>> No.2740964

>>2740958
It wasn't meant as a troll image. It's actually a decent rec.-list, it only trolls because it originated in a thread about pleb-books.

>> No.2740967

>>2740949
>>2740943
I've read all of these. Am I a pleb now? :( I read others as well though.

>> No.2740993

>>2740967

Have you read all of them in their original language?
Didn't think so, pleb.

>> No.2740994

>>2740967
I don't believe you.

>> No.2740998

>>2740993
The original language reading thing's just for bonus points. But I've read the french/spanish/german and portuguese ones in their respective languages. So I'm a semi-pleb now?

>> No.2741008

>>2740998
And obviously the English ones.
>>2740994
Good for you.

>> No.2741010

>>2740998

Welcome home Romancebro.

Just translate this into Espagnol and Anglais:"puta que pariu"

>> No.2741015

>>2741010

I really love romantic languages. They're not my mother-tongue. Are you portuguese?

>> No.2741017

>>2741010
And why would you say that? :I

>> No.2741085

>>2739777
NO NO, SILMARILLION, NO.

seriously, I read it but the first 100 pages were soooo fucking horrible.