/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.2661202]

Any college dropouts on here? Anyone considering dropping out?

Discuss the merits of college vs. not going to college.

[Anonymous No.2661216]

College ruins your life. don't go.

[Anonymous No.2661217]

Yes I dropped out. Spent the 15k the government gave me on smack. I just drink and write everyday. Fuck the system (and mooch off it).

[Anonymous No.2661226]

>>2661217

are you me?

[Anonymous No.2661227]

Drop-out here. Merits of not going to college: not having to interact with other human beings on a day to day basis, sleeping all day, etc. Cons: niggling feelings of intellectual inadequacy and low self-worth.

[Anonymous No.2661228]

I fantasize all the time about dropping out; I'm an English major and I'd rather be reading and learning about things I choose. But my parents are paying and I'm doing really well, so I think I'll just power through junior and senior years and get that diploma. Good luck, OP.

[Anonymous No.2661235]

>>2661217

How deep into addiction are you? I dropped out of college for a year due to smack dependency; kicked it and came back but can't find any motivation and have no feelings anymore.

[Anonymous No.2661238]

>>2661202
I dropped out of economic science.
I'm now in thrid year of computer science. May fail this year, but at least I got a 2-year degree.

Dont drop out. Work harder. I regret not doing it in my time.

I also regret the year and half between the "fuck it, I'm staying in my flat and play video games, read books and watch movie" and getting my ass back to study for good.

[Anonymous No.2661246]

>>2661228

I'm exactly the same as you. In final year and have let so much work pile up and missed so many deadlines I don't know what to do.

The only reason I carried on was to please others and avoid not being able to look people I care about in the eye.

[Anonymous No.2661252]

yeah i dropped in the middle of the first semester this year.

im gonna try again next year. hopefully it goes well...

my goal is to get done with that shit and then find a job anywhere to save money and keep living like i've been living since i dropped.

it is amazing.

[Anonymous No.2661260]

I regressed so much recently that I'm ignoring college work and playing WWF No Mercy on Emulator erryday.

Also have a severe drinking problem.

Parents think I'm doing fine but I'm heading for failure.

>i just don't care.

[Anonymous No.2661277]

Hahahah! Plebs!

[Anonymous No.2661285]

>>2661277

tell us about your wonderful life.

[Anonymous No.2661296]

>>2661235
You have no idea. I can't feel anything. Finding motivation to eat or even drink is difficult. I couldn't sit through college course anymore than I could high school. I never went to high school. Not going to sit and be "taught" shit that I already know just so someone can wait to judge if I know these things. Fuck all.

[Anonymous No.2661299]

Completely free european education. Am doing pretty well actually, but I'm decided not to continue after the summer vacation, just participating in the msot interesting courses for now, not planning on taking any of the exams (I'm at the end of my second semester). Feels weird man.

[Ahab !!kNaamJVNbDP No.2661316]

>>2661277

Just give up.

[Anonymous No.2661320]

>>2661316
actually, i studied literature and linguistics for 3 years at university. apart from that i realized that 90% of these literature theorists and lit. philosophers are mostly full of elitist crap, trying as hard a possible to make everything they say as inaccessible as possible to everyone, i really find it hard to see a book as brilliant when it's plain boring. but i guess i'm glad i finished it. I definitely didn't even begin to understand most of it, but I'm still glad I read it.

[Anonymous No.2661324]

You've just got to know what you really want to do, otherwise there's no point. Do you really want to be 50 years old and working at the smelting plant, having never gone anywhere or done anything even remotely interesting?

[Anonymous No.2661332]

>>2661320

Similar experience to you. Academia just seemed like a little bubble for people who can't deal with reality so sit their researching some extremely specialised section of their chosen subject that only they and 5 other people on earth care about.

It just seemed like a huge joke.

[Ahab !!kNaamJVNbDP No.2661336]

>>2661320

That's not even an interesting or funny copy-paste.

[Ahab !!kNaamJVNbDP No.2661341]

>>2661332

> their

Sure.

[Anonymous No.2661351]

>>2661341

People like this are perfect for academia.

[Anonymous No.2661355]

>half the time on /lit/, it's threads with worthless dropout addicts encouraging young men to follow in their footsteps
>the other half of the time, it's those dropout addicts lamenting their past and trying to figure out where it all went wrong and they stopped "feeling things"

Addiction, not even once.

[Anonymous No.2661371]

>>2661355

>implying people have a choice when it comes to addiction.

[Anonymous No.2661373]

>>2661371
1/10

I actually clicked the Quick Reply button before coming to my senses.

[Anonymous No.2661380]

>>2661373

> Quick Reply button

wha


where?

[Anonymous No.2661381]

>>2661355
>Implying there aren't millions of us who can and do use recreational drugs responsibly.

[Anonymous No.2661382]

>>2661373

I've seen addiction destroy the best people I've known. It crept up slowly and no one saw it coming because they were the kind of person that just 'couldn't get addicted to something, not them - they were to good a person'.

[Anonymous No.2661389]

>>2661381

This is what all addicts thought at one point. They tell themselves it won't happen to them, that it only happens to people who are irresponsible.

[Anonymous No.2661391]

I dropped out this year, but I could find a decent job and had no idea what I wanted to do with my life, so I decided to go back. Almost done with my masters now. At least I can put that on my resume.

[Anonymous No.2661392]

>>2661380
Check the settings in the top right corner. I'm using it to reply to you right now.

[Anonymous No.2661403]

>>2661389
Ive been enjoying drugs for about 10 years now and haven't become an addict. Imagine if prohibition had stuck in the US, and you had a few generations being subjected to anti-booze propaganda. You would have people coming on to message boards saying "These people think they can enjoy the occasional drink but they all become alcoholics". Please don't believe everything the media tells you.

[Anonymous No.2661405]

>>2661403
>10 years worth of steady drugging
>haven't become an addict

I don't think you understand what the word signifies, friend.

[Anonymous No.2661418]

>>2661405
>steady drugging
where was that said? OK:

It's been about 10 years since I tried my first drug, and I've enjoyed drugs on many occasions since. Better?

[Anonymous No.2661422]

>>2661403
It really, really depends on the drugs.

[Anonymous No.2661432]

>>2661391
*couldn't

[Anonymous No.2661437]

>>2661422
and on the quality of your life

[Anonymous No.2661445]

>>2661437
Yeah, tell that to heroin.

[Anonymous No.2661451]

>>2661422
I've tried pretty much everything out of curiosity. Just had the sense to understand the addiction potential, and leave certain things alone after experiencing them. Other people will automatically think, that felt amazing I'm going to do that immediately. And they are well aware of the consequences. The ones I feel sorry for are the middle class junkies who are given scripts by their doctors, who didn't understand the risks, and In all honesty, out of all the addicts I've met hardcore alcoholics are up there with meth heads.

[Anonymous No.2661454]

>>2661382
Well guess what? They could've just not done the shit in the first place, fucking idiots.

[Anonymous No.2661460]

Yep, right here. Worst decision of my life.

[Anonymous No.2661462]

>People thinking dropping out of college is a good thing
Plebs. Straight A's, destroying my classes, been going to college for free because of all the shit I did in high school, getting my Master's in four years thanks to the accelerated program.

[Anonymous No.2661466]

I'm going back after a five year hiatus due to dim prospects.

I think it's been tougher re-entering than applying for schools the first time around. It definitely takes "more than one night."

[Anonymous No.2661474]

>>2661462
oh please
do tell us your plans for the future
im sure you a perfect future ahead of you

[Anonymous No.2661499]

>>2661462
>need college to get ahead
>can't figure anything out without some authority figure telling him what do
>will never know the feel of overcoming societies preconceptions about success

[Ahab !!kNaamJVNbDP No.2661505]

>>2661499

Oh look, an alcoholic.

[Anonymous No.2661507]

>>2661499
actually, i studied literature and linguistics for 3 years at university. apart from that i realized that 90% of these literature theorists and lit. philosophers are mostly full of elitist crap, trying as hard a possible to make everything they say as inaccessible as possible to everyone, i really find it hard to see a book as brilliant when it's plain boring. but i guess i'm glad i finished it. I definitely didn't even begin to understand most of it, but I'm still glad I read it.

[Anonymous No.2661512]

>>2661499
what's wrong with authority figures?
some people have more knowledge, experience and wisdom than you do

[Anonymous No.2661515]

>>2661512
>some people have more knowledge, experience and wisdom than you do
And these people don't work in the education system.

[Ahab !!kNaamJVNbDP No.2661516]

>>2661507

Dude, you're not going to make that paragraph of shit into a meme.

[Anonymous No.2661522]

>>2661516
Actually I will. You see i studied literature and linguistics for 3 years at university. apart from that i realized that 90% of these literature theorists and lit. philosophers are mostly full of elitist crap, trying as hard a possible to make everything they say as inaccessible as possible to everyone, i really find it hard to see a book as brilliant when it's plain boring. but i guess i'm glad i finished it. I definitely didn't even begin to understand most of it, but I'm still glad I read it.

[Anonymous No.2661527]

>>2661516

[Anonymous No.2661536]

Wittgenstein didn't ever get a degree.

If not getting a degree is good enough for him, it's good enough for you.

[Anonymous No.2661544]

>>2661536
He went to Cambridge University and studied under Bertrand Russell
You might be right about the degree idk about that

[Anonymous No.2661545]

College is debt. Nothing more.

[Anonymous No.2661551]

u guys gon regret dropping school.

[Anonymous No.2661557]

College leaves you in debt, miserable, unsatisfied and filled with hatred.

[Anonymous No.2661559]

>>2661536

He was given a PhD for the Tractatus just so he could be a paid lecturer.

[Anonymous No.2661564]

>>2661536

he was also pursuing an advanced degree in engineering before he decided to study logic and the foundations of mathematics

[Anonymous No.2661566]

>>2661551
This.

I anticipate a lot of you will end up going back in a few years.

[Anonymous No.2661579]

>>2661564
Yes, so technically he's a dropout.

He actually asked Bertrand Russell whether he was intelligent or whether he was a misguided idiot and should continue doing his degree and become an engineer.

Russell immediately told him to forget about the degree and come to Cambridge.

[Anonymous No.2661588]

>>2661579

He already had the equivalent of a bachelors in aeronautical engineering.

[Anonymous No.2661599]

>>2661588

You're right, I retract my statement about him being a dropout.

[Anonymous No.2661644]

>>2661332
A agree with this to a degree. I could never see myself becoming an academic and writing papers on obscure subjects that arent relevant or groundbreaking. I don't think people like Hume etc could do that either, it's like killing a malnourished house

[Anonymous No.2661658]

Interested in knowing which subjects you guys dropped out of.

English lit here

[Anonymous No.2661673]

>>2661658
Art dropout reporting in.

[Anonymous No.2661676]

>>2661332
>>2661644

There's a very cool moment in Stoner by John Williams where one character (an assistant professor) declares that universities are asylums, rest homes, for "the infirm, the aged, the discontent, and the otherwise incompetent".

The novel is not at all anti-university, but rather it holds this position matter-of-factly. Rather than insulting the university system, it just says that it fulfills a certain need for a certain part of the society.

If an academic career seems wrong for you, you're probably not one of the unfortunate few who need it.

Also, read Stoner by John Williams. It's an amazing novel.

[Anonymous No.2661678]

>>2661658
Mechanical engineering

[Anonymous No.2661704]

>>2661392
Quality of life significantly improved. Many thanks.

[Anonymous No.2661712]

>>2661704
Oh God, its different. change no change bad no aaahhh

[Benny Profane !!muO1YE/mn/J No.2661715]

I dropped out of junior college, I was studying film-making.

I might go back in the fall to study English, I'm undecided as of yet

[Anonymous No.2661727]

I'm not sure if I'm regarded as a drop out or not because I went to uni for a year for the purpose of evading a 9-5 job. Although technically a student I never actually bothered attending any of the classes, instead used the year to write a business plan and use the free government bursary to start a company.

[Anonymous No.2661732]

I'm probably gonna go to uni because i'm too unskilled for anything else

[Anonymous No.2661752]

I studied honors English Lit, graduated summa cum laude, and even had some creative writing accepted for publication in a school-wide literary magazine. University was one of the best experiences of my life.

That said, it's done shit all for me as far as finding a liveable salary. I was lucky enough to not owe anything, but I'm not sure it's worthwhile to continue my education unless it's for some position I already have.

The whole "college or flip burgers" mindset is utter horseshit. Establishing a career doesn't work that way.

Also, the higher education system in America is almost exclusively made to sucker people. Anyone from anywhere can take your money, make you click through some online bullshit, and give you a diploma no one cares about.

[Anonymous No.2661757]

I have no sympathy for some of you people. You chose a worthless degree and then decided to do drugs all day instead of putting forth an effort? Society owes nothing back to you. Grow up.

[Anonymous No.2661758]

>>2661752

You studied literature. You should have known what you were getting into. It's teaching or academia. Otherwise there's pretty much nothing. You probably knew that.

[Richard Feynmann !Hwop/gspA. No.2661759]

>>2661757

don't let those bitter tears short out your calculataor hun

[Anonymous No.2661766]

>>2661757
I'm not asking for sympathy. I chose a worthless degree and then decided to do drugs all day instead of putting forth an effort and enjoyed every moment of it.

[Anonymous No.2661770]

>>2661757
>I have no sympathy for some of you people. You chose a worthless degree and then decided to do drugs all day instead of putting forth an effort? Society owes nothing back to you. Grow up.

actually, i studied literature and linguistics for 3 years at university. apart from that i realized that 90% of these literature theorists and lit. philosophers are mostly full of elitist crap, trying as hard a possible to make everything they say as inaccessible as possible to everyone, i really find it hard to see a book as brilliant when it's plain boring. but i guess i'm glad i finished it. I definitely didn't even begin to understand most of it, but I'm still glad I read it.

[Anonymous No.2661771]

>>2661757
actually, i studied literature and linguistics for 3 years at university. apart from that i realized that 90% of these literature theorists and lit. philosophers are mostly full of elitist crap, trying as hard a possible to make everything they say as inaccessible as possible to everyone, i really find it hard to see a book as brilliant when it's plain boring. but i guess i'm glad i finished it. I definitely didn't even begin to understand most of it, but I'm still glad I read it.

[Anonymous No.2661773]

>>2661770

[Anonymous No.2661776]

>>2661757

I fucked peachy engineer/science asses like yours all day too. Damn you're a closeted lot; the tears of a BSc who'd just had his ass-cherry torn was gorgeous.

English lit drop-out here.

[Anonymous No.2661785]

Pretty much derailed all chances of getting a degree. Any dropouts got some advice on how to deal with the disappointment of friends, parents and family in general?

[Anonymous No.2661791]

In the next five years I´ll find out if getting my degree was worth it.

[rapture !!s6JqdRhQGSg No.2661793]

>>2661757

why is this bad? i'm in academia (graduate): MAYBE 7 hours a week of class-time, rest of the time is mine to do whatever. Oh, and not only do i have summers off, but my institution pays me just to go to another country to learn their language.

even better? IT DOESN'T EVER CHANGE. whereas many retired people long to accomplish some kinda hobby--like teaching 2 classes a week on the side--i literally get to structure my life as planned retirement from my early 20's. as long as you are quasi-intelligent and publish a couple articles, you're fucking golden. it's the easiest job in the world, and the better you are at simply shitting out articles, the more you get payed and the greater your influence; on top of that, if you're really cunning and structure your work around interesting topics, then you've now crafted a profession that enables you to do nothing more than read, think about, and write about perennial human problems.

have fun working until your 60, only to have acquired just enough "hard-won" savings to live a frugal retirement with a worn-out body and cigarette dipped in regret.

go build a fucking bridge you enlightenment trainwreck.

[Anonymous No.2661798]

hey everybody, rapture has returned

[Anonymous No.2661804]

>>2661798
Wonderful, you wouldn't believe how thrilled I am.

[Anonymous No.2661807]

>>2661804
he posts something every few months. i like to point it out whenever it happens

[Anonymous No.2661833]

Wow, what a depressing thread. You're all assholes.

[Anonymous No.2661855]

>>2661793
>payed

[Anonymous No.2661867]

Undergrads looking to drop out because you don't feel like you have enough control or direction in your studies... just get through it and graduate. Grow up a bit and go back for your graduate studies later if you're the sort who just loves the academic setting. I left as an undergrad, bitter as fuck about a lot of things... went back for my masters when I turned 25 and there's way less of giving a fuck. Classes are far more focused but there's less specific required courses, so it's pretty cool with awesome peers when you get past the undergrad drudge.

[Anonymous No.2661871]

>>2661793

how did you get to that point?

[Anonymous No.2661878]

The rationalization of failure ITT is painful to witness.

"I-I'm actually smart but college is just a waste of time!!! Real intellectuals like me drop out and do drugs all day!! Enjoy working 9-5 and being a corporate shill LOL xD!"

No wonder all of you read obscure books and love existential philosophy, you're so fucking ordinary you need these things to feel special.

[Anonymous No.2661882]

>>2661474
This is the most cringe-worthy post I have ever seen.

>>>/reddit/

[Anonymous No.2661884]

[Anonymous No.2661905]

i'm pretty intelligent but i did poorly in high school because i didn't do anything... then i took two years off to travel/work a little bit/ take shitloads of acid and i'm 21 now, started my undergrad course this year and i'm going to fail two of my four units for the semester.

derp

but then again i'm getting something published in the upcoming tar!

[Anonymous No.2661982]

>>2661905

>pretty intelligent
>failing two undergraduate courses/getting something published in TAR

Pick one.

[Anonymous No.2661998]

Do not go to university.

Go to sea. The sea - that vast, unknowable, female thing - is the greatest of teachers. A man learns more in three days upon the sea than he ever will in a hundred years of bed and board at one of the land's repugnant palaces of ignorance that pass for places of knowledge in our civilization.

A man's place is the land, and only by leaving the land can he know truth - awful truth that swirls at the center of oblivion like a trapped beast.

[Anonymous No.2662006]

>>2661998

This shit is hilarious.

[Anonymous No.2662044]

>>2661998

that was gay man

ps siddhartha already did it

[Anonymous No.2662130]

>>2661998

thanks dude this shit is deep (like the sea).

[Anonymous No.2662170]

I graduated college, and I have nothing to show for it.

However I am essentially guaranteed some sort of employment because of it. Some of you may disagree, but because of where I live, the color of my skin, and my appearance, coupled with my degree, it made it worth it.

Now I just gotta look.

[Anonymous No.2662218]

>>2662006
>>2662044

plebes

[Anonymous No.2662325]

After 2 years of college I dropped out for 2 years. Worked retail. Paid rent. Socialized a lot. Then went back to an entirely different major. And I was a little more mature. Dropping out for 2 years was a very good thing for me to have done.

[Anonymous No.2662334]

I've been in university for seven years and I'm nowhere near graduating. Like halfway through the semester I come to the realization that it's not worth it and I drop out of all my classes, only to re-enroll again next semester out of some sense of obligation to my parents and grandparents.

[Anonymous No.2662910]

>>2662334
7 years?

I'm in a similar position but I've been here 4 years - took a year off and only came back to please parents.

[Anonymous No.2662920]

I dropped out of college twice.

Pro's: Not having to commit suicide out or be an alcoholic out of sheer depression and boredom
Con's: Poorfag for life.

Formal education has ruined my life for the most part. Now that I'm a useless proletarian I can feel my soul beginning to heal a bit.

[Anonymous No.2663341]

>>2661878
Next time you troll don't use "LOL xD!". It makes people take you less seriously.

[Anonymous No.2663356]

>>2662334
You don't have an obligation to your parents. You have an obligation to yourself.

A lot of this ennui would be struck down very quickly by forcing you guys out on your own. Life teaches you very quickly.

[Anonymous No.2663383]

>>2663356
I'm not so sure about that. I come from a very poor background, with my grandparents having been destitute farm workers with almost nothing to their name. Then they sacrificed what little they had to come to the United States because they didn't want their children to live the same life they had. My parents were slightly better off but only barely working class, and they did all that they could to get me into private schools so that I could attend university later.

To turn around and say, "Thanks for all that you've done but I don't want it" feels like a pretty dick move.

[Anonymous No.2663382]

>>2663356

Yes, let's take socially maladjusted, unemployed 20somethings and make them homeless. That will solve all their problems.

[Anonymous No.2663391]

>>2663383

>working class
>private schools

Yeah no. You were a spoiled little middle class twat, is what you were.

[Anonymous No.2663399]

>>2663391
I received scholarships for academic excellence and had my tuition reduced further for volunteer work for the schools.

[Anonymous No.2664390]

>>2663391

get a load of working class hero guy

[Anonymous No.2665067]

Notice how it's always the ones who are dropping out or failing who take it upon themselves to say how intelligent they are? I'm intelligent and guess what, I didn't fail one subject and completed my undergraduate degree and Master within four years. All while suffering from chronic depression (not from the studying) and even managing a solid weed and lsd habit near the end (became a better student in fact). I studied useful, interesting subjects and even managed to put in unrelated ones for my own pure interest. If you fail you're just a dipshit, you need to work hard, just claiming you're smart compared to a 'normie' is rubbish, actually do something.

[Anonymous No.2665941]

>>2665067
>feels a bit down but is functional
>talks shit about people who are actually clinically depressed
>proofs he doesn't know what depression is by saying "you just need to work hard"
>50's dad idea of mental disorders

You're like a guy with a cold telling people with cancer they should just man the fuck up.

[Kudryavka !!x+mnmrU0sW+ No.2665963]

>>2663391
There are $50,000/year private schools that are much cheaper than public schools for people with low income because of the financial aid. I would be paying $20,000/year if I went to a public school in my state, whereas I pay less than a fifth of that to go to a small private school.

[Anonymous No.2665974]

>>2665941
You should explain why people are wrong for a living. The exaggeration's a little off, but that's still a great way of putting it.

[Anonymous No.2666000]

>that feel when I hated math and physics throughout high school
>that feel when going for a CS/Engineering degree
>that feel when you get told you're being stupid and/or wrong it's because of objective misunderstanding of the facts and not because the professor is a Barthes-loving cocksucker
Best feeling in the world.

[Anonymous No.2666012]

I dropped out for a semester, transferred to a different university, GPA went from a 2.8 (old uni) to a 3.8 (new uni).
I think it was just doing some physical labor and doing nothing for a bit. I've noticed a lot less depression, and I feel like I've been getting a lot more stuff done.

>>2665067
>this just in: intelligent people are more likely to experience depression

[Anonymous No.2666095]

I dropped out twice :)

My main goal now is to become as self-sufficient as possible. Today I was harvesting the wrong species of elder for an hour, but it is all fun.

[Anonymous No.2667794]

I'm at uni for journalism, it feels like a huge waste of time but unfortunately I need that degree before anyone will let me write anything -'cos it's not like they could look at my writing and judge my ability from that.

[Anonymous No.2667819]

I've decided to drop out, I realized I needed to when I spent all my time watching films, reading things related to film and film theory and writing scripts.

I have other plans I'd rather focus on but my parents are supporting me and I've always been expected to go to uni. I'm plan to let my parents know what I'm trying to do and I expect they will support me, I'll say I'm going to defer for a semester but in truth I have no intention of going back. If they don't support me then I'll have to move out which will make things more difficult.

I've gotten all I can out of it, time to leave.

[Anonymous No.2669551]

>>2666095
How would you go about accomplishing this?

[Anonymous No.2669573]

here is a quick protip to all the losers:

1. drugs and alcohol are nice complements to a productive day, but are most usefully consumed in the evening, after all the work and chores have been completed
2. school is important for a future
3. you need to understand what a healthy complete diet consists of, and also stay active if you don't want to plunge into depression.

[Anonymous No.2669642]

>>2669573
>2. school is important for a future
You disappoint me.

[Anonymous No.2670037]

>>2669573
These are good advice.

I wish I knew them 3 years ago.

[Anonymous No.2670039]

there is no practical motive for posting on image boards or taking anything on the internet seriously. Yet many people in our society devote themselves with passion to long-winded rants, responding to trolls or other goals in order to cope with their insecurities, lack of power and the lack of real fulfillment in their lives.

Artificial goals take the place of real goals and people begin to treat trivial things very seriously. This leads to a fear of aging and death. Having never put their mental powers or creative skills to any use, having never experienced real fulfillment by using their minds in any necessary ways, they cling to a futile activity

[Anonymous No.2670047]

>>2670039
you have a rather poor view of the philosophers. your point is similar to asserting that all chemistry teachers should pander to the lowest level of understanding in the classroom. sure, they may use jargon, but there are plenty of people who "understand" that jargon, or at least think that they do. i used to love reading the transcendentalists, and recently i've been reading 'fragments of an unknown teaching' by ouspensky. you've definitely got to have had the correct experiences to lead you to the point of actual enjoyment of philosophical works.

[Anonymous No.2670079]

all this thread has done for me is affirm my choices to stay off drugs, alcohol and stay in school

[Anonymous No.2670518]

>>2665941

good work there, since i was referring to people who claim to be intelligent but do fuck all except for say it as they fail subjects.

i never said working hard and 'snapping out of it' was the answer to depression. realisable that you might as well make things better for yourself, even though it's all horrible and pointless in a manner, is help though. would you rather be depressed and flipping burgers or depressed and have a decent income answer be soon something interesting and engaging?

[Anonymous No.2670539]

>>2669551
What exactly would you like to know? :)
Basically, I want to produce as much food for myself as I can, while cutting down unnecessary expenses. Easier said than done, obviously :)

Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xShCEKL-mQ8

[Anonymous No.2670565]

Life with an education is easier. Life without an education is harder.

That's it. There are no hard secrets here. You waste a few years and spend money to make your future sunnier.

If you are a very energetic and adventurous type, if you were working since 14 and have started your own business with friends by age 19, college may be a waste for you. You probably should use all the young years and money for self-education and actual business.

If you're a shut-in, or an academically-minded person, an artist that prefers to work out of comform of one's home and such - then you will highly benefit from an education, because you will be dealing with people that respect, value, expect and have education throughout your whole life.

[Anonymous No.2670569]

>>2666095
>My main goal now is to become as self-sufficient as possible.
That is very inefficient and dangerous. The second you need a specialist, you're done for.

Also, you're using the Internet. I don't think you bypass the service provider and other people's DNS servers. Not that you should, but you're clearly not at all self-sustained anyway.

[Anonymous No.2670572]

I went to college and I don't regret it, opened my eyes to things I probably would never have thought about it, was a real enlightenment for me. However due to the economic climate now I'd lean towards something you enjoy which has prospects.

[Anonymous No.2670599]

College dropout here. While college can be boring, scammish, and alienating, but my experience outside of college has been even worse. The working world doesn't want some dumbass kid (you) taking their fucking jobs (of which there are very few, and as a kid with no education, you qualify only for drone-level McJobs). Your applications will most likely not be read. The most realistic route to landing an actual, full time, shitty minimum wage job seems to be knowing somebody who works there, or knowing somebody who is friends with the boss. Even when you acquire said job, you are not resume-building, you are not "getting out on your own and being independent", you are cleaning toilets and faking smiles for gas, food, and rent. It's a catch-22. Have a shitty job? Haha, what a loser, he's a fucking janitor/pizza boy. Quit your shitty job? What an irresponsible, ungrateful little shit! He should be taking life by the reigns, and trying to succeed!

Two false senses of security are pretty prevalent.
-Kids who have McJobs, can pay their bills, and have a little leftover money for videogames/beer. Oh boy! Until, of course, they're 30 and still have no education or actual career
-Kids who have generally avoided working, and intend on staying in college for as long as possible, even if their major is unemployable.
-Kids who join the military. Most end up severely fucked up, egomaniacal, emotionally dead, hyper-patriotic robots

Go to college, get a degree that qualifies you to do an actual job with actual prospects (no, don't major in pre-med or pre-law, you're going to hate that shit and you're only doing it to appease your parents), find something you're good at, something you like doing, and find a way to get paid for it (no, not "freelancing", you need healthcare and an actual fucking paycheck)

[Anonymous No.2670602]

>>2670599
>two false senses of security
meant to write two, but remembered the military thing

[Anonymous No.2670641]

>>2670569
Hopefully you didn't drop out because you've got quite some learning to do. Like learning how to read.

[Anonymous No.2670645]

>>2670641
actually, i studied literature and linguistics for 3 years at university. apart from that i realized that 90% of these literature theorists and lit. philosophers are mostly full of elitist crap, trying as hard a possible to make everything they say as inaccessible as possible to everyone, i really find it hard to see a book as brilliant when it's plain boring. but i guess i'm glad i finished it. I definitely didn't even begin to understand most of it, but I'm still glad I read it.

[Anonymous No.2670646]

I've been suspended for a semester for drug possession but I don't think that really counts as "dropping out."

[Anonymous No.2670652]

>>2670641
I did not drop out. I am a teacher.

Formulate your thought better if you want to be understood. This is a skill that is also taught in college, though you can teach it to yourself just as well.

[Anonymous No.2670653]

>>2670646
Lucky fuck, I got expelled for drug possession.

[Anonymous No.2670654]

>>2670645
He's not talking to you, he's talking to me @ >>2670569 . He was doing the hip thing and I pointed out the inconsistency, so he got angry, is all.

[Anonymous No.2670656]

>>2670653
Shoulda went to an expensive liberal arts school bro, even if I went on a shooting rampage I'm sure they'd let me back in as long as I didn't kill any other students.

[Anonymous No.2670661]

>>2670652
there is no practical motive for posting on image boards or taking anything on the internet seriously. Yet many people in our society devote themselves with passion to long-winded rants in order to cope with their insecurities, lack of power and the lack of real fulfillment in their lives. Artificial goals take the place of real goals and people begin to treat trivial things very seriously. This leads to a fear of aging and death. Having never put their mental powers or creative skills to any use, having never experienced real fulfillment by using their minds in any necessary ways, they cling to a futile activity

[Anonymous No.2670671]

>>2670654
Don't even you fucking maggot infested faggot!

You go on a LITERATURE BOARD and proceed to talk shit to me, then call me a nerd. Mother fucker I could break your little bitch ass with my dick!

[Anonymous No.2670672]

>>2670652
I just wanted to write how sorry I am for the kids you teach, but I didn't really mean it, until >>2670654

[Anonymous No.2670676]

>>2670671
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

[Anonymous No.2670684]

>>2670676
Formulate your thought better if you want to be understood. This is a skill that is also taught in college, though you can teach it to yourself just as well.

[Anonymous No.2670688]

>>2670676
Buy some mimosa hostilis root bark (legal), and some syrian rue (legal) and brew yourself some ayahuasca.

You will go on a powerful psychedelic trip where you will be forced to confront all the issues troubling you. You will have to judge your past actions and current situation without the bias of ego, or any of the defense mechanisms you have built to deal with your problems.

It will be hard. It will be scary. But you will Identify every aspect of your life, and unresolved issues from your past, that are causing you to be miserable. And will be able to see exactly what direction you need to be heading in.

[Anonymous No.2670689]

>>2670672
>I just wanted to write how sorry I am for the kids you teach, but I didn't really mean it, until >>2670654
I teach music, so my opinions on "self-sufficiency" are irrelevant to my job.

[Anonymous No.2670693]

>>2670684
Oh boy, are you making a copypasta out of my post now? You must be an easy target.

(Make this into one, too.)

[Anonymous No.2670699]

since this is /lit/ im going to say drop out of liberal arts. you dont need a professor to tell you what usylesses means. If you want to read a book read it. Make your own conclusions. If you want to write then keep a journal. Torrent textbooks, and lectures. If you need some validation start a group on meetup or facebook.If you need a professor to tell you what shit means then join the military. You'll come to the same conclusion. I guarantee it.

[Anonymous No.2670706]

>>2670693
You'll come to the same conclusion. I guarantee it.

[Anonymous No.2670711]

>>2670699
This guy is actaully right. Get an education that is usable to finding a job and don't get any. Self-improvement through modern college is impossible.

[Anonymous No.2670717]

>>2670711
Everyone thinks along strict guidelines of what is what based on the teaching of great works of literature. You don't learn about literature in school, you learn about how to learn about literature. This is the frame of reference and it's a juggernaut of false perceptions existing to quelch good conversation on the topic.

[Anonymous No.2670773]

>>2670689
That's a bit comforting.

[Anonymous No.2670788]

highschool dropout here
Get on my level

[Anonymous No.2670793]

>>2670539
Sounds interesting. I hope you make it!

[Anonymous No.2670811]

>>2670793
Thank you :)

[Anonymous No.2670812]

>>2670711
1. Do a degree that makes you money
2. Take some writing classes for your electives
3. Graduate
4. Get paid shitloads and write in your spare time
5. Get published
6. ?????
7. Profit

[Anonymous No.2670830]

>>2670812
1. Drop out
2. Dismiss writing classes as horrible housewife shit
3. Move into some shitty room in a big city
4. Work shitty jobs or go on the dole and write about things you know.
5. Either get or don't get published, which shouldn't be the goal, but you will most likely be much more interesting marketing wise to a publisher because the bohemian bum caters more to peoples idea of an artist than the sensible business who in his spare time likes to scribble a vain word or two while being also the more interesting way to live.
6. ???
7. The dedicated life of an artist according to the modern path, to which the only viable alternative is patronage

[Anonymous No.2670900]

>>2670039
Thank you for eloquently summarising my thoughts on social networking. I've been trying to word it properly for ages.

[Anonymous No.2670928]

I'm not going to college when I finish highschool.

I will work at customs and/or quarantine at an airport probably.