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Amazon has finally released the cover art for the new modern edition of Journey to the West. Pic related. Also, Chinese lit general.

>> No.2619598

>>2619596
>Anthony C. Yu’s translation of The Journey to the West,initially published in 1983, introduced English-speaking audiences to the classic Chinese novel in its entirety for the first time. Written in the sixteenth century, The Journey to the West tells the story of the fourteen-year pilgrimage of the monk Xuanzang, one of China’s most famous religious heroes, and his three supernatural disciples, in search of Buddhist scriptures. Throughout his journey, Xuanzang fights demons who wish to eat him, communes with spirits, and traverses a land riddled with a multitude of obstacles, both real and fantastical. An adventure rich with danger and excitement, this seminal work of the Chinese literary canonis by turns allegory, satire, and fantasy.

>With over a hundred chapters written in both prose and poetry, The Journey to the West has always been a complicated and difficult text to render in English while preserving the lyricism of its language and the content of its plot. But Yu has successfully taken on the task, and in this new edition he has made his translations even more accurate and accessible. The explanatory notes are updated and augmented, and Yu has added new material to his introduction, based on his original research as well as on the newest literary criticism and scholarship on Chinese religious traditions. He has also modernized the transliterations included in each volume, using the now-standard Hanyu Pinyin romanization system. Perhaps most important, Yu has made changes to the translation itself in order to make it as precise as possible.

>One of the great works of Chinese literature, The Journey to the West is not only invaluable to scholars of Eastern religion and literature, but, in Yu’s elegant rendering, also a delight for any reader.

>> No.2619603

How many pages long is the entire thing exactly?

>> No.2619605
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2619605

The updated list.

>> No.2619610

>>2619603
The old edition was four volumes. But it is an epic in every sense of the word.

>> No.2619611
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2619611

Why do people refer to Confucianism as a religion when it says like three times in the Analects that it's not?

>> No.2619619
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>>2619603
These are the old 4

>mfw them colors...

>> No.2619623

>>2619611
Western audience & Western concept of what constitutes a religion.

inb4 thread derailment

>> No.2619629

I can't find my copy of Judge Dee... I wonder if I sold it back to the University bookstore?

Why would I have done that though, I never do that.

Anyway, who's read Judge Dee? And why's it not good enough to be here >>2619605

>> No.2619632

>>2619603
According to Amazon:

Volume 1: 544 pages
Volume 2: 448 pages
Volume 3: 464 pages
Volume 4: 479 pages

Total: 1935 pages

My kind of book.

>> No.2619635

>>2619629
Written by whom?

>> No.2619655

>>2619635
unknown ʘ_ʘ

>> No.2619717

>>2619655
Robert Hans Van Gulik who is most definitely not Chinese.

>> No.2619719 [DELETED] 

>>2619717
He was the translator you moron.

>> No.2619720

>>2619717
Ooooh, you were referencing the original which has an anyonymous author. My bad.

thanks

>> No.2619728

So in Ancient China a judge could not deliver a guilty sentence unless the accused had confessed.

And to get the accused to do that, they would be tortured.

But, if they resisted the torture and did not confess the judge and assistants would be executed for torturing an innocent person.

How about that /lit/?

>> No.2619732

>>2619728
er, the judge and his assistants

>> No.2619737

How essential is it to read Journey to the West?

>> No.2619741

>>2619737
Less essential than reading Journey to the East, and you haven't done that yet, so chop chop.

>> No.2619742

>>2619741
Where do I start, and which translation?

>> No.2619771

>>2619605
List is missing essays and poems

>> No.2619798

Bump

>> No.2619804

>>2619771
Care to say which ones?

>> No.2619807

>>2619742
Also, list is missing poems because poems in translation generally suck and miss a lot of their original meaning. Especially with a language like Chinese.

>> No.2619811

>>2619804
How about all of them
The essays are absolutely essential, the poems, especially the ones in Tang and Song dynasties cannot be translated at all; they lose all of their rhyme, rhythm and beauty. So I guess only essays.

>> No.2619814

>>2619811
I'm asking you to name some so I can put them on the list.

>> No.2619826

>>2619814
Here's my list of authors I'm intending to read:
余秋雨，林清玄，张晓风，梁实秋，张爱玲，林语堂，三毛，巴金，鲁迅，老
舍，朱自清，贾平凹，徐志摩

>> No.2619880

>>2619826
So which Journey should I start with?

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>>2619728
>ancient law

lyl

>> No.2619897

>>2619880
They are all really good.
So far I've only read 林清玄 and a bit of 余秋雨.
张爱玲 and 三毛 are decent for women writers.

>> No.2619903

>>2619596
I prefer the Kazuya Minekura version and I don't care.

>> No.2619909

>>2619826
>>2619814
Jao Tsung-I, Lin Qingxuan, Zhang Xiaofeng, Liang Shiqiu, Eileen Chang, Sanmao/Chen Ping, Ba Jin, Lu Xun, Lao She, Zhu Ziqing, Jia Pingwa, and Xu Zhimou, in case you didn't want to translate that.

>>2619897
I've only read Lust, Caution and I wasn't particularly taken with it (I liked the movie even less). Is there anything else she's done that's better?

>> No.2619913

>>2619826
>>2619897
There is this little thing, maybe you've heard of it, it's called
PINYIN
You can use it to communicate with us slimy, lazy, idiotic cretins who don't recognize Chinese characters. IF you don't consider that too far beneath you.

>> No.2619914

>>2619909
Her essays are okay
>>2619913
Calm down I only used those because I thought the anon making the list was Chinese

>> No.2619923

I can only read books written by women, so I won't be able to read all of the journeys.

Which to start with?

>> No.2619927

>>2619923
>I can only read books written by women, so I won't be able to read all of the journeys.
Explain.

>> No.2619930

>>2619923
>I can only read bad books

I'm sorry, man.

>> No.2619933

>>2619927
I am Capsguy

Which were written by men?

>> No.2619938

>>2619933
Of the ones >>2619826 listed only Sanmao (三毛) and Eileen Chang (张爱玲) are women.

>> No.2619950

>>2619938
Isn't The Red Chamber the essential series to read or something?

>> No.2619952

>>2619811

Translating Chinese poetry may be impossible, but that's no reason not to attempt it.

>> No.2619956

>>2619950
Dream of the Red Chamber? It's one of the "Four Great Classical Novels" along with Journey to the West, Romance of the Three Kingdoms, and Water Margin. Written by a man (Cao Xueqin) though.

>> No.2620532

>>2619880
Wait for the new edition which is OPs pic. It comes out later this year.

>> No.2620650

>>2619605
see
>>2619950

>> No.2621139

So... any other recommendations?