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Would YOU tell her that À l'ombre des jeunes filles en fleurs is the most pleb tome of À la recherche du temps perdu?

>> No.2556615

French a shit.

Deutsche is where its at.

>> No.2556623

>>2556615

French is the language of poetry, German is the language of philosophy.

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>>2556615
>French a shit.
Pucker up.

>> No.2556630

>>2556623

whats australian the language of

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>>2556630
Obviously not the language of eluding the authorities.

>> No.2556635

>>2556630

Australian English is the language of smelly assholes.

>> No.2556637

>>2556630

is that the gay one

>> No.2556640

I wish I spoke French...

>> No.2556644

>>2556640
Then stop bitching and learn it.

>> No.2556648

>>2556640

There's such a thing as learning languages.

>> No.2556655

>>2556648
>>2556644
I will eventually. I'm just brushing up on my Spanish right now

>> No.2556700

What's the best way to learn a new language? Can I do it without spending any money on shit?

>> No.2556706

enculé

>> No.2556710

>>2556700
Right now, I'm using a combination of Rosetta Stone and Pimsleur, both of which you can get off of torrents.

>> No.2556717

>>2556700
This>>2556710
and you could probably pick up some used language books for next to nothing.

>> No.2556728

>>2556700
FSI courses you do an hour a day, or take a class

Any method that says you don't have to learn how the grammar works or memorize tables of inflections is full of shit. Pimsleur is okay if you are going to France and aiming at full immersion, because I guess you can pick everything up by "feel" while using Pimsleur for basic conversation, but Rosetta Stone is shit and basically a scam. You're better off learning the grammar with a book or course tailored to teach it to you, typically through chapters that gradually introduce new elements and include several pieces to translate (ramping up in complexity, obviously), and supplemented with your own translation efforts.

Classes are good because the teacher can supplement a good textbook (actually a rare thing) with coursework, structure, and angrily yelling at you when you fuck around or are lagging behind in some field. Above all, don't ever allow yourself to go by "feel." If you are "getting the basic idea of the sentence," you're just fucking yourself in the long run. You need to know how everything works and why.

>> No.2556896

But that's my favorite volume of Proust, OP :(

>> No.2556912

Well I think la jejune pommes frites con carne is the most pleb tome of mousse fin de siecle pfeffernusse.

So there.

>> No.2556915

>>2556611
>most pleb tome
>not le cote de guermantes
>dat 90 pg dreyfus digression
only part of proust i always skip

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2556953

it is pronounced prowst

>> No.2556963

I would say the most pleb is Swan's Way because is the first so all the entry level people who read for the hype and the facade stop reading there

>> No.2556964

>>2556963

*Swann's Way

>> No.2556972

>>2556963

poster doesn't realize it's a pleb thought to think swann's way is pleb

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2557272

Second half of À l'ombre is amazing.

I can't really decide which I like best, but I don't think 5 or 6 were bad at all. Nabokov can suck a dick.

>> No.2557360

>>2556728

>Any method that says you don't have to learn how the grammar works or memorize tables of inflections is full of shit.

Bullshit.

>> No.2557365

>>2557272
Nabokov also said that Molly's soliloquy is the worst part of Ulysses.

>> No.2557376

>>2557365
Did he say it was actually bad? I thought he just said he gave too much "verbal weight" to thoughts or something.

I remember he did say that the library scene was something only an author could enjoy reading.