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2543430 No.2543430 [Reply] [Original]

What do you guys think of "How to Win Friends and Influence People"?
Before buying it I want to read your opinions.
Also is " How to Win Friends and Influence People in the Digital Age" the previous book with more chapters or a totally different book?

>> No.2543434

That is the best fucking .gif there is

it's seriously magnificent

sorry i don't have anything ontopic i just love that gif

>> No.2543724

>>2543430
Sauce on the gif plz?

>> No.2543728

>>2543430
Forgot to add that those are horrible books.

>> No.2543738

>>2543728
Cna you explain yourself further?

>>2543724
No idea, sorry.

>> No.2543743

>>2543430
The original is mainly about supplication and manipulating people into going along with what you thinks best by being nice to them and appealing to their own sense of self-worth.

Essentially, it's smart flattery with a dash of common sense and tact in tricky situations. It teaches you how to be manipulative and is designed for people who aren't actually interested in fostering friendships, but want to gain people as assets. It left a bit of a bad taste in my mouth, though I imagine if you're a businessman it's pretty much your gateway book on networking and negotiations.

>> No.2543755

>>2543434
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulh6P6sYooc

>> No.2543757
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>>2543743
It doesn't seem what I'm searching for.
Thank you very much.

>> No.2543760

>>2543757

Wait! Don't go! Do you have more pictures of naked girls reading?

>> No.2543763

>>2543738
You do not "Win Friends and Influence People" by reading a book. You "Win Friends and Influence People" by interacting with said people. Picking up ques, figuring out how they think, seeing how far can you push them and how far can they push you. The more contact you have, the more relaxed you are. The more relaxed you are, the less of a social spazz you are.

At my former place of employment sales teams used to have these three day training sessions (from Friday to Saturday) held by expensive trainers with the sole purpose of making them make other people come around to their way of thinking. And you know what? Come Monday nothing changed.

Interpersonal interaction can not be taught, it can only be experienced. This also goes for books abut body language, detecting lies and all other self help crap on the bookshelves.

>> No.2543764

>>2543743
For business and management "Games People Play" is what people think "How to Win Friends..." is. It also doesn't pretend to be anything more than a pop psy book.

>> No.2543765

>>2543760
I'm not OP but I have this

>> No.2543766

>>2543763

But how do ugly people get on the first rung of that ladder? The rope is woven with mirrors and you can't sign out of Facebook.

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>>2543760
Forgot picture

>>2543765

>> No.2543770

>>2543767

Oooh, that dirty slut, read that fucking Tolstoy, you're a filthy little Postmodernist, aren't you, yeah...

>> No.2543783

>>2543766
By ignoring the ladder altogether. And any form of electronic communication. Those are the cancer of modern society.

I'll presume you are form USA and that you are male (you can correct me later). Having trouble interacting with others? Hit the gym. Not just any gym. Find some hole-in-the-wall establishment with people who actually train there. Not because it will turn you into Adonis overnight but because it is a environment of focused individuals (remember they are there to train, to lift heavy things up and put them down) who will not intrude upon your solitude unless you ask them. And you will ask them. But at your own pace. A couple of exercises to start you with, some pointers later on on your form, nodding to each other, then talking and so on. The presence of iron simplifies things. Effort put always equals respect given.

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>>2543783
Shit forgot the picture.

>> No.2543803

>>2543757
Is there a book on how to get a girlfriend like this?

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>>2543760
I wish.

>>2543763
>You do not "Win Friends and Influence People" by reading a book.

Of course. I just want some advices and some ideas from a person that knows more than me about this topic.

>The more contact you have, the more relaxed you are.

Indeed. I'm an ex shut-in so I know that very well.
The problem is that I'm relatively old, so I want something that can speed up the development of my social skill, a sort of catalyst.
Also, you know, the more old you get the less mistakes you can do.


>>2543767
>>2543785
Fukken saved .jpg
Thanks.

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>>2543803

>> No.2543813

>>2543783

I suppose I already knew I should be doing that. But thank you. However, I am worried that the people there will laugh at me. They will call me Gunther and throw pork rinds, bought with the explicit intention of taunting me. My flabby, pale skin will ripple like the waters of Augusta and as my contemporaries exude a golden aura I will reek of death and weakness. Or worse, they will mutter things I cannot hear and thus must agonize over for nights on end.

>> No.2543825

>>2543760
Inb4 Sasha Grey.

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>>2543813
They might or they might not laugh. But you are not there for them. You are there for you. You are there to lift iron. The iron will give you focus. Focus will give you other people's respect. Respect for yourself and respect that others have for you will change you. And that is the goal here.

Here is a far better perspective by another shut-in.
http://www.oldtimestrongman.com/strength-articles/iron-henry-rollins


>>2543807
Best of luck man. I know that fell.

>> No.2543959

OP:
I got through, 2/5 of it. I can't speak for the rest of the book, but he seems to go on about leaders, and other completely irrelevant situations - and generally seems to force the idea of never giving critique, behave towards others how you want them to behave towards you, and other very, very obvious shit.

I thought it would be a book on what traits/ques you should look for, general human tendencies, gender differences, topics that are emotionally favoured, how one should lead the conversation to explore specific details, etc etc. But boy was I wrong.

>> No.2543969

>>2543882

You're nice, and I like you. I will read that article now. Thanks.

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>>2543882
i haven't laughed this hard in a long time. well played.

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>>2543882

>Best of luck man.

>http://www.oldtimestrongman.com/strength-articles/iron-henry-rollins

Thanks, man.


>>2543959
Thanks a lot , you helped me save money and time.

>I thought it would be a book on what traits/ques you should look for, general human tendencies, gender differences, topics that are emotionally favoured, how one should lead the conversation to explore specific details, etc etc. But boy was I wrong.

This is exactly what I'm looking for.