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2507906 No.2507906 [Reply] [Original]

So... Real books vs The Kindle. Which is better to have?

Is the Kindle really easy to crush? I've been kind of interested in one, but I'd always have it in my backpack so I'm kind of apprehensive.
Also, I hate reading long texts from screens, but I hear that the kindle's screen is just like a page's face. Is it true?

Pic unrelated.

>> No.2507913

I'm sticking with books. There's an irrationality to my decision (which, I suppose, is essentially a concession to the practical superiority of Kindles), but the dedicated pursuit of the ineffable is - I think - a characteristic of any good reader, so I don't feel bad.

>> No.2507912

The Kindle is more practical, won't get crushed in your backpack and doesn't feel like a typical screen to read from.

If you're just looking for practicality, go with the Kindle. Personally I like real books because I prefer to have something tangible to read and keep on my shelf, but that's totally personal.

>> No.2507915

E-ink is like reading a page, except the text is more crisp.

If you do buy a Kindle, get one of the old ones (not the new colour backlit popular frauds) and buy a cover for it.

My Kindle is perpetually in my backpack (I never take it out except to read it) and I've had it over a year without any problems.

The people who claim their Kindles broke easy must have rocks for hands or something.

>> No.2507919

>>2507906
I have a kindle but still buy books.

If there is a choice between paying ten dollars for a classic book or getting it for free on my kindle, I'll go with the kindle. If I really love it, I buy the book because I take marginalia and whatnot.

>> No.2507933

>>2507913
See, that's exactly my problem. I'm afraid I'm being silly about my apprehension towards the Kindle. I like owning real books, but... Like >>2507912 said, the Kindle just seems so practical...

Also, the ability to pirate books and have hundreds with me at once is really a nice idea.

>>2507915
Yeah, I'd be getting one of the E-ink ones because all I'm interested in is using them as surrogate books. Do you know if they all have the same screen size? Or is the Kindle Keyboard's screen much bigger than the regular kindle's?

>> No.2507934

>So... real tablets vs the scroll. Which is better to have?
>So... real scrolls vs the book. Which is better to have?
>So... real books vs the Kindle. Which is better to have?

>> No.2507957

I have a Kindle 3G. I love that I've pirated hundreds of books even though I probably wont read most of them. I still read physical books every now and then when someone lends it to me or I've had one sitting around that I haven't read yet. After reading so many on my kindle It's kind of nice to read a book to change things up. I read half of Brave New World on my kindle then started reading the second half in a copy my friend had lent me. I never take my kindle out of my room despite having a screen protector and a leather case. I feel like a tool when I read it in public and it's still in mint condition after having it for four months. I'd just rather keep a paperback in my backpack to read on the go.

>> No.2507962

>>2507957
Any big difference between reading from the kindle vs real pages? Or did it essentially feel the same?

>> No.2508006

bump for a few more opinions.

>> No.2508047

i've carried my kindle with a leather case around in a messenger bag of sorts with heavy books, a laptop and bottles of water for 4+months without a scratch, i have a growing library of 4000+ books and the text is as good as if not better than real paper, and i've purchased 17 physical books after reading them on the the device.

i must have saved over £400

>> No.2508070

>>2507962
Pretty much the only difference is pressing a button instead of turning a page. The one thing I don't like is how there are typos in ebooks that have just been scanned from real books. It gets on my nerves sometimes but the ebooks are free so I'm not going to complain about it too much.

>> No.2508078

>>2507934
>so...kindle or upload to visual reader interface. Which is better to have?
>so...visual reader interface or auto-upload memory chip. Which is better to have?
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>> No.2508102

Don't get the Kindle. I had the Kindle 2 with wifi since the christmas of 2010, the first time it broke was understandable, it was in my backpack and someone pushed it off a desk. The second time it broke I dont know wtf happened to it because I just looked at it one day and the screen was cracked. I sent that one back about 3 months ago and the day the new one came it broke. I'm not even kidding. I forgot to send it back but for some reason Amazon thinks I sent it back so now I have two broken kindles at my house

>> No.2508113

Kindles are a bourgeois affectation

>> No.2508341

>>2508102
Well, I decided to at least give it a chance. I went to Staples and the dude there reduced their 2 year warranty from $40 to free for me (no idea why, maybe it was his last day?) so yeah. I have 14 days to return it, so we'll see how it goes.

>> No.2508351

>>2508113
And yet you use devices that can use the internet to peruse 4chan.

Go kill yourself.

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>>2507912
>Won't get crushed in your backpack
>mfw i've sent 2 Kindles for screen damage after putting them in my backpack.

>> No.2508399

>>2508380
Get a fucking cover for it, you stupid dipshit.

>> No.2508420

>>2508399
their fault for not including a case to keep it in.

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>>2508113
You have no idea what those last two words mean, do you?

>> No.2508443

>>2508420
Your fault for not protecting your investment by buying a 30 dollar fucking cover, you cheap sonofabitch.

>> No.2508453

I prefer both the feel of a book and the portability of a kindle/ereader. It depends really. There are pros and cons for both but in practical use, the e-reader just trumps a hard-copy.

And I always keep my Kobo reader in my backpack, it even fits in my hoodie pocket and my trenchcoat inner pocket so it's nice.

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>>2508443
>World wide recession. Thinks there's something wrong with being cheap.

MFW.

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2508477

I like the idea of a kindle, because I can reduce my book budget to less than zero
That being said, I like being a pretentious douche, and being complemented on whatever book I'm reading. Plus, you can lend books to friends, and I've gotten many friends into reading that way
Plus, books are pretty cheap, especially if you buy used, and they're nice to have on a shelf
A kindle is more practical, but I don't see myself getting an ereader unless books become digital only (which may happen. Look at the way the music industry has shifted with bandcamp, etc)

>> No.2508479

>>2508466
Life in Australia's pretty good.

>> No.2508482

>>2508479
How about them dingo's? Take away any of your babies today?

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2508483

>>2508479
Not if you lieve on the gold coast
The place is a fucking cultural vacuum
So glad I moved (I miss all the skate parks though)
Brisbane is pretty awesome though

>> No.2508486

>>2508483
Yeah man, I'm from the Gold Coast. How do you think I feel, growing up in Surfers Paradise?

I live in The Valley now. Not much better, but fuck is it convenient.

I get free entertainment every day, crazy abos downstairs.

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>>2508479
Better yet.

How's all that ardent media censorship going over there?

>> No.2508491

>>2508488
What censorship?

Australian people in general are too stupid to think about matters which governments would want to censor anyways

>> No.2508499

fuck australia

seriously fuck yall

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2508507

>>2508491
Bro, You can't buy a copy of american psycho if you're under 18
Trust me, I've tried. I had to wait til last year to buy a copy
THEY PUT AN AGE LIMIT ON A FUCKING BOOK
>>2508486
Shit man, Surfer's paradise? That place is a shithole, the only reason to go is the guitar stores on mermaid avenue and the couple of skate stores and record stores. They don't even have decent book stores.
I used to live in Southport, shit was still sucky, but at least they had some decent used book stores

>> No.2508508

>>2508499
Yeah, we're pretty lucky.

>> No.2508515

>>2508507
I never even go to book stores. The age limit issue is getting better in Australia, what with the introduction of the R18+ rating classification for games now. Although I don't play video games, but still, that's something positive.

Oh God, there's so many gays in/around The Valley and when I went to vote yesterday so many were complaining about how the Liberals might recede the civil unions. I told the ones near me I'm voting Liberal and they started berating me. I went on to say that I'm not going to change my vote because of one potential event and that I'm looking at the broader picture.

>> No.2508524

I'm pretty sure that if I lived in Australia I'd be a violent revolutionary.

>> No.2508525

Buy a Kindle. Buy a case for it. If it breaks, call Amazon and they'll replace it in one day for free. I have done this four times after smashing my first one on accident (because I kept getting bad refurbs that had sticky keys).

They're way more convenient than books, they're easy to adjust to, you can download more books on the fly, the batteries last forever if you charge it at least once a week, and they let you bookmark and whatnot like real books.

Only thing I still use paper books for are textbooks, the Kindle is not so great at displaying large images.

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>>2508515
Australia has shitty candidates anyway
Abott vs Gillard is really a choice between the lesser of two evils
I'd vote for Abott, in the hope that he pushes anti-abortion laws, gets rid of the civil union, etc.

>> No.2508534

>>2508528
Why are you parading yourself as a liberal actress than? Go back to /pol/

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>>2508534
Didn't you see my mischievous smirk?
I wasn't being serious
I don't live in Australia anymore, so I'm glad I don't have to vote

>> No.2508553

>>2508483
>>2508507

man you guys don't live in Perth, talk about cultural vacuum

>> No.2508597

Kindle, if you like convenience and don't care about the proprietary software that controls the kindle

Real books, if you like the way they look and feel, or you are a collector, or you are a gentoo loving free software faggot.

>> No.2508621
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2508621

I got myself a Nook Color a couple of weeks ago and I love the hell out of it. I've gotten more reading done in the last week than in the whole six months prior. I just can't get comfortable with real books, you have to find a place with light, then find a position in which you won't get tired of holding for more than five minutes, plus I'm visually impaired so I have serious trouble reading normal print size. With my e-reader I can sit down wherever the fuck I want regardless of the light levels or size of print.

That being said, were it not for my eyes, I'd probably still prefer physical books, a file on an electronic device just doesn't get my rocks off like a real book does.

>> No.2508625

>>2507906
I got myself a case for mine that actually makes it look like a real book, and protects it at the same time. It cost $40 but you'd really have to be trying to damage it to actually do anything.

>> No.2509073

Books last decades. How long will your kindle books last. Let's see, try investing in over two thousand books in a format that will expire...it's a foolish waste of money. Do the math (assume $60 per book... that's a cool $120,000.00. )

Paper is not fragile, it can take much abuse. Eletronic books rely on fragile and ever-changing tech. Also, like the cassette tape, or the 8mm movies, it's got an expiration date.

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>>2509073
>Kindle
>Buying books

Also
>Kindle
>Any book over $20

That said, it's not like ereaders are going anywhere. If you just don't have the space to hold a collection of books, why not invest in an ereader? Not only will you save money, but you'll also be able to stay literate...

>> No.2509826

>>2509073
You're an idiot.

>> No.2509828

>>2509073
But we know paper is also a non-renewable resource.

>> No.2509841

>>2509828
>humans have collectively lost the knowledge of how to plant trees

>>2509826
typical kindle fag support. =No argument.
HA!

>> No.2509845

>>2509841
>humans are not preserving trees
>humans are not using dispensable resources (like e-ink) as opposed to paper

>> No.2509848

>>2509073
Theoretically, wouldn't a book decompose quicker than a kindle would?

Also, with Kindles you get the added benefit of backups, and should the format die you can always convert your files into the next big thing.

>> No.2509876

>>2507912
>only post you need to read
end this now