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2493176 No.2493176 [Reply] [Original]

Hey, /lit/.

"The massive wave of emulation suicides after a widely publicized suicide is known as the Werther effect, named after the massive wave of suicides after the release of The Sorrows of Young Werther by Goethe."

Does /lit/ know of any other books that caused the suicide of a significant amount of their readers? Or books that caused crime or other interesting phenomena among their readerships?

>> No.2493182
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2493182

This is relevant to my interests.

>> No.2493184

Nietzsche is responsible for men like Hitler, Stalin, and Leopold & Loeb. A real winner. Nihilist literature is as intellectually bankrupt as it is dangerous.

>> No.2493187

>>2493184
But Nietzsche directly contradicts a lot of those people's actions in his books; the people using Nietzsche just misinterpreted what he said.

And Nietzsche isn't necessarily nihilist, he's just very literal and... "grounded," I'd say.

>> No.2493194

>>2493187
People who misunderstand others' ideas have caused much of the sorrow in this world.
>Christianity
>Islam

>> No.2493201

>>2493194
Very good point.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCEJtUNe90A

>> No.2493214

>>2493184
Do you think that Nietzsche's philosophy was misconstrued by these men, or do you think that they were pretty accurate in their interpretation of his ideas?
I always thought that the Nazi fanfare over Nietzsche's concept of the Übermensch was a result of a major misunderstanding.


>>2493194
This, definitely.

>> No.2493222

>>2493201
>>2493214
I think this is the first time anyone on /lit/ has actively agreed with me.
I feel fuzzy.

>> No.2493233

I wouldn't be surprised if some of Albert Camus' works caused (or at least was an indirect cause of) a few suicides here and there. The Myth of Sisyphus, especially.

>> No.2493273

hahahahaha i wish i and my whole class was able to feel that much after reading werther, but honestly Werther = original emo

>> No.2493279

>>2493273
I actually had to stop about 50 pages in to go puke.

>> No.2493300

>>2493233

I love Camus. Just remember kids, correlation does not equal causation.

>> No.2493314

Fight Club. Though it was probably the film that had a bigger audience.

>> No.2493318

>>2493233
Riiiiiight.

You mean in that book where he comes out against suicide?

Riiiiiiight.

>Clearly hasn't read The Myth of Sisyphus properly.

>> No.2493323

mein kampf was responsible for 6 million jews to commit suicide.

>> No.2493340

>>2493318
Just because you and I have read it properly and understood the point that he was trying to get across, doesn't mean that everyone did.

>> No.2493436

Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto inspired despots such as Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot to commit mass genocide, and modern leftists to kill children before they're born.

>> No.2493452

>>2493436
>modern leftists to kill children before they're born.
this is seriously all that abortion is.

>> No.2493475

Misunderstanding is a constituent element of our linguistic practices.

>> No.2493489

>>2493475

Yes, SIR!

>> No.2493514

>>2493436

I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.

>> No.2493532

>>2493452
They're unwanted, better than having them be born and giving them handouts.

>> No.2493548

>>2493514
There are bunkers that can be built. We have to pick the best and they must reproduce.

>> No.2493629

http://webhome.idirect.com/~andyt/tmas.html

Here you go.