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Guys I really love Bukowski and Kerouac. They have such a relatable "carpe diem" attitude toward life, that I haven't found in other writers. Honestly life is so short, why waste it moralizing and not just letting loose and having fun? I wish I could have lived wild lives like these guys...

>> No.2489301

Kerouac didn't live a hedonistic life though and his life was almost ascetic in some of it's aspects. I think in Dharma Bums he shows how spirituality and ethics are also very important in living a fulfilling life.

>> No.2489308

Oh cool, a shit American movie about a shit America novel.

>> No.2489311

>>2489308
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yruArw21EGA

You'd probably like this movie.

>> No.2489312

>>2489308
Written by a hackjob of an author.

>> No.2489316

>>2489311
>>2489311
ahahahaaaaahahaha

fucking great!

>> No.2489330

I sure hope you're in your early twenties at the latest. Otherwise you're laughably immature.

Well, you are anyways, but you're supposed to be at that age.

>> No.2489333

>>2489290

They did take themselves very seriously though.

>> No.2489335

>>2489333
LIVING LIFE TAKING DRUGS, DRINKING, AND FUCKING?

SEEMS LIKE A PRETTY COMMON THING TO DO MY GOOD MAN

>> No.2489338

I don't think Bukowski's life was all that great considering he spent it being fuck ugly, writing mediocre novels and 14 year old-tier poetry and drunk the crushing pain and despair away every night until he passed out in a pool of his own vomit, waking up with each morning with a new hideous growth devouring the remaining flesh of what could charitably be called his face.

>> No.2489342

>>2489338
AND THE WOMEN THEY FUCKED, HIDEOUS.

I DO SAY THOUGH, IF I COULD HAVE PERPETUATED MY EXISTENCE OF DRINKING EVERY NIGHT WITHOUT WORK I WOULD HAVE DONE SO UNTIL MY BODY GAVE OUT.

>> No.2489345

>>2489342

That's because you're a disgusting hedonist.

>> No.2489350

>>2489345
THANKS JON.

I HAVE NO REGRETS. IF I CHOOSE TO LIVE TO MIDDLE AGE, I WON'T LOOK BACK AND THINK THAT I WISHED I DID THINGS DIFFERENTLY.

THERE IS STILL PLENTY OF TIME FOR ME TO 'GET SERIOUS' AND BECOME ANOTHER WAGE SLAVE. BUT WITH A BACHELOR OF ACCOUNTING BEHIND ME WITH A GOOD GPA, I'M SET, AND IF THE WORST COMES, THEN I'LL JUST DO A ONE YEAR MASTERS.

I'M FINANCIALLY SECURE FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS TO JUST DICK AROUND, AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.

>> No.2489354

Kristen Stewart looks like she hasn't bathed for a week.

>> No.2489357
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2489357

Opening with, 'I am not a hedonistic bastard or immature cunt'.

I like Kerouac because he had his troubles and he put them directly and openly into his work. I'm taking 'Satori In Paris' and 'Subterraneans' here as examples of that. Haven't even read 'On The Road', don't know if I want or need to (sue me).

And the Buk, well I reckon many people can sympathize with his stories, feeling useless or out of place. When you don't feel special at all, so many many are sexist and low deep down, he was an honest fucking bro, and boy could he pace a story and keep you turning even though his message often doesn't change, affecting stuff if you don't automatically reject it because it's 'below you'.

ps: Ginsberg was hopeless, Burroughs should only really be lauded as a character, 'famed' experimenter, and prophet like bro with not too much to say outside of his little oddities of character.

Okay guys, I assume you aren't THAT elitist.
Beats do NOT equal entry level, you know it depends on what level you enjoy the work and which of them you're reading. It is stupid to like all of the beats BECAUSE they were beats, that is a bit backwards.

bye guise x

>> No.2489360

>>2489357

many men*

That makes me sexist too right? My point lies there.

>> No.2489372

>>2489350

>I'M FINANCIALLY SECURE FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS TO JUST DICK AROUND, AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.

You keep telling yourself that, you putrid glutton.

>> No.2489374

>>2489357

Your immaturity is evident, if only because of the absolute vapidity of your criticism.

"He had problems"
"He was honest"

Jesus it's like you tried really hard to legitimize these terrible authors and you just don't have the intellect to bullshit it.

>> No.2489393

>>2489374

Both writers writers wrote mostly about their lives.
So reading narrative about somebody's life isn't about feeling? Okay man.. that's like totally your choice...

>> No.2489397

Kerouac and Bukowski are truly "coming of age" authors.

Because when you've come of age you realize that they both were selfish twats who went around and lived on kindness of others

>> No.2489399

>>2489397

*just kerouac

bukowski took care of his own shit you misinformed fool

>> No.2489403

>>2489397

Yes, it isn't like they gave anything back or give anything at all for that matter to anyone.

>> No.2489404

>>2489397

I'll have to agree with this statement, he acted like a true asshole, especially in On the Road.

>> No.2489408

>>2489311
TAKE ALL OF MY MONEY

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>>2489404
Kerouac is more of the sap in On The Road. Sure, Paradise shoplifts from American Apparel some and whatnot, but just having to be with Dean for the amount of time he was with him is punishment enough.

>>2489345
>see other people living life
>"Hedonism runs rampant among today's youth!"

Clutch your Bible harder, Puritan.

>> No.2489595

um how do you read bukowski and conclude that you should live more like him

like 90% of the shit chinaski does in any given book makes him objectively more miserable

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2489629

>Honestly life is so short, why waste it moralizing and not just letting loose and having fun? I wish I could have lived wild lives like these guys...
Yeah, wow. Who wouldn't want to live the pitiful pleasures of boring, scummy beats with their watered down 20th century experiences. Sounds good OP, I don't want to be Sir Richard Burton or Lord Byron or Cesare Borgia.

>> No.2489638

>>2489629
>>Hurr the past I onanize over is better than yours
Really, D&E?

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2489639

8/10

>> No.2489647

>>2489638
don't greentext stupid shit i never said mate. it's very simple: op is small-minded, the people he looks up to had shitty, tepid lives, and it's perfectly reasonable to point this out. there's nothing more to say about it, there is no bigger issue at stake, don't nit-pick, don't be a little bitch, take your medicine, take it like a man, take it like a pro, take it on the chin, build a bridge and get over it, learn from it

>> No.2489649

>>2489647
/lit/ really should learn the meaning of the word 'taste' someday.

>> No.2489656

>>2489290
whos the girl?

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>>2489649
Why? What would that contribute to this discussion?