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Twitter is unspeakably irritating. Twitter stands for everything I oppose.

>> No.2476868

Franzen is everything I oppose.

http://harpers.org/archive/2005/10/0080775

>> No.2476871

OP is unspeakably handsome.

>> No.2476879

I don't really like Franzen but I agree with him on everything he says about digital media, social networks etc.

>> No.2476883

>>2476879
He says them because he's afraid of losing money, not from any real luddite tendencies.

>> No.2476888

>>2476883
Because people are on facebook, they don't have enough time to buy his books and read them? That's what you're suggesting he's thinking.

>> No.2476890

>>2476888
Nah, he makes some valid points but it's nothing others like Zadie Smith haven't said better.

>> No.2476894

>>2476890
What do you mean 'nah?' Are you even trying to say anything or are you just dissing franzen for the sake of it.

>> No.2476895

>>2476894
Nah.

>> No.2476901

>Twitter
>Not the modern platform for haiku's and philosophical aphorisms

You're doing it wrong.

>> No.2476903

Franzen has no style and very little talent.

He's irrelevant, really.

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>>2476895

>> No.2476908

>>2476903
Actually, no. You are irrelevant.

>> No.2476915
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2476915

Crossbows are unspeakably irritating. Crossbows stand for everything I oppose.

>> No.2476919

>>2476908
Yeah, yeah. You don't mind chowing down on the inept prose and laughably wooden characters who all talk the same. I get it.

Still, white knighting a horrific plunker of a writer like Franzen on 4chan is... well, maybe when you've grown up a bit you'll be able to recognise true literary accomplishment, and won't confuse it for hack artists who spin their wheels for the easily impressed middle class.

>> No.2476928

>>2476919
Gtfo of here. If you're not being paid to spout that shit you're being suckered bro.

To sincerely dismiss Franzen is to come out as an enormous idiot.

>> No.2476930

>>2476905
God damn it, that picture makes me horribly depressed every time I see it. That poor lady.

>> No.2476937

>>2476865
>Not a Macbook

Obviously he doesn't take his craft seriously.

>> No.2476938

THEN STOP GOING THERE FAGGOT OP

FUCK THIS PLACE

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>>2476938
Don't think he does go there. U?MAD

>> No.2476962

OP hates instant publishing, subscription with no strings attached, convenience and brevity.

Twitter as a medium can be great, just like blogs and books can be. That a lot of it is filled with shit is obvious. The ratio of shit is even higher with Twitter since it's so easy to gain access to, but it is damned easy to filter out the noise. Twitter can be access to a daily stream of intelligent and interesting people providing you with insight, recommendations and entertainment. People who hate the medium in itself will probably be long winded assholes and typewriter fags.

>> No.2477087

>>2476962
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/booknews/9130501/Twitter-hits-back-after-Jonathan-Franzen-o
utburst.html

>> No.2477098

>>2477087
Thank you, it confirms my suspicions.

>> No.2477581
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2477581

Why does this man feel threatened by everything? I hope the ghost of DFW is haunting him every night.

>> No.2477585

Franzen is a person I hate. But I'm not sure why.

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>>2476865
#ludites
#whineyfags
#ufsi

>> No.2477618

>>2477612
*luddite

also that word does not mean what you apparently think it means

>> No.2477639

>>2477618
It means a person against innovation and change. I'm fairly sure that makes sense in this context.

>> No.2479136

post your favorite twitters ITT

>> No.2479143

>>2476865

Franzen, like any experienced, intelligent, and disciplined person, must be, to some extent, wary of how technology interacts with art. But he's not merely aware and critical of it, he outright hates it, and displays his fearfulness in a really off-putting way. It's not enough that he's perhaps wrong about technology and information sharing; he's also a dick about it.

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>>2479143

>> No.2479146

>>2477639
Not in that general a sense you faggot.

>> No.2479167

>>2479136
Bret Easton Ellis has a great twitter.

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2479171

my gift to /lit/

>> No.2479180

>>2479167
no he doesn't

>> No.2479184

>>2479171
wow. those two penises look exactly the same, except one is bigger. amazing

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2479185

Jeez, lots of dudes paid to diss Franzen.

"The Corrections" and "Freedom" are the two best novels that came out of my generation, so man-up and deal with it, guys". Bret Easton Ellis

>> No.2479196

>>2479185
Franzen may be a terrific writer, but he's still a jerk.

>> No.2479203

>>2479196
He's a poopy pants!!

>> No.2479211

He's not an impressive writer, and neither was David Foster Wallace.

>> No.2479220

>>2479211
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/jacketcopy/2009/09/themillions_bestofthemillennium.html

>> No.2479224

>>2479220
I wonder what a bunch of indiscriminately chosen film critics would think the best movie of the millennium is..

>> No.2479229

>>2479203
I don't have to like the guy if he's a fucking asshole, regardless of his work. Deal with it.

>> No.2479230

>>2479224

Probably Citizen Kane. It's always in the very top spots on those kind of lists.

>> No.2479231

>>2479230
This millennium, you goofball. 2001+

>> No.2479235

>>2479231
Citizen Kane remastered in 3D

>> No.2479239

>>2479231
I'd put 2001 a Space Odyssey then

>> No.2479388
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>>2479239
Enter the Void

>> No.2479399

all about steve

>> No.2479401

>>2479388
Enter the Void was actually a great movie to see once. There were some incredible visuals and I especially love how the west loves to fetishize Asian cities at night for some reason. It's always just endless shots of nightlife and neon lights and bustling clubbing streets when you see shots of Tokyo or Seoul or Shanghai. East Asia in the daytime is a lot more boring, so it's a good stylistic choice I suppose!

>> No.2479402

>>2479401

Agree, I saw this at my local cinema, which is also the oldest in the UK, and the film has a fascinating aesthetic. It's also terribly acted, but that's hardly the point. I'd like someone to explain to me the thinking behind the internal cumshot scene at the end - half the audience laughed, the other had already left. I guess it's just an extension of the omniscience of the camera's gaze throughout the film, but it was pretty bizarre.

>> No.2479411

>>2479401
east asia as techno-future mostly i think

the culmination of which is pretty obviously blade runner