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>Check out /lit/ for the first time
>Check out wiki for recommended reading
>H.P. Lovecraft
>Robert Frost
>Lorraine Hansberry
I like what I see
>But wait....
>No G. Orwell
>No F. Scott Fitzgerald
>No Henrik Ibsen
>No Joseph Conrad
What kind of board is this?

>> No.2459954

Where are you looking? Fairly sure they're on their respective national literature recommendations lists, or general ones.

>> No.2459956

>>2459954
In fact, Fitzgerald is the sixth name down on the page.

>> No.2459959

i've not seen the recommended reading shit but i imagine that those books could be overlooked because most high schools require you to read those anyway.

>> No.2459958

>>2459950
Welcome to 4chan. Most of our userbase never finished highschool but you can speak freely so it kind of levels out.

>> No.2459962
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2459962

And Conrad and Orwell are both on the British one. I know Ibsen is on the theater recommendations one too.

Where the fuck were you looking?

>> No.2459963

>>2459954

Also note that we don't really pay much attention to that wiki so take it with a grain of salt.

>> No.2459966

>>2459956
My mistake! I looked for The Great Gatsby which I now found.

>>2459954
Very possible, I didn't look through all of the page yet!

I haven't been called a faggot or cancer yet.... Is it possible that people are... Nice here?

>> No.2459969

>>2459966
>I haven't been called a faggot or cancer yet.... Is it possible that people are... Nice here?

No. We're just a little less vulgar.

>> No.2459970

>>2459963
Why take it with a grain of salt? The recommendations charts are in general very good. Most people probably have disagreements over the general ones, but the national ones provide great overviews of certain countries' literature.

>> No.2459972

>What kind of board is this?
The kind of board that expects you to have some kind of reading comprehension.
Look at the links in the sticky again.

>> No.2459975

Fitzgerald is a second rate writer for college students. Lovecraft is a fourth-rate Poe who in turn is a fifth-rate Borges.

Not to mention our lack of Russians, no Turgenev, only able to pronounce and spell Dostoevsky, etc but you must remember it is a guide, and what good is a guide if it doesn't have the entry level stuff?

If you read a book and like it and then don't go on to discover its influences and what inspired it and similar authors, you are the problem.

tl;dr: The sticky is for newfriends.

>> No.2459977

>>2459970

They are great. What I meant to say was don't think of it as the general representation of what /lit/ likes. Well, at least from what I've seen here so I dunno.

>> No.2459979

>>2459969
And ostensibly posses a better vocabulary.

>>2459970
I didn't actually look under the national sections but I find myself in agreement with most of it.

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2459983

>>2459975
Our lack of Russians? What?

>> No.2459985

>>2459983
>>2459983
Oh, that must be new. I retract my statement.

>> No.2459990

>>2459985
It's not new. The first iteration of it was May 2010, and the last time it was changed was February 2011.

I get the feeling most of /lit/ hasn't even looked at the recommendations wiki since /lit/ started.

>> No.2459991

>>2459975

>Poe
>fifth-rate Borges

Poe is Borges' daddy.
GeorgieBorgie admitted as much.
Lovecraft does suck though.

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2459995

This board would be surreal if it wrote my IB literature essays for me and the posters in this thread appears to be be.... mature.
I think I am in love.

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>>2459995

>> No.2459999

>>2459995

Go fuck yourself faggot. And take your shitty writing with you.

>> No.2460001

>>2459995
I was in IB literature, and therefore would never write another essay like that again unless I were paid to do so.

>> No.2460002

>>2459995
Don't make homework threads.

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>>2459995
A bit poorly phrased but you get the gist of it.

For now I can only offer advice and help related to /fit/ness, but otherwise, I will just let the thread die out.

>Zyss, always related.

>> No.2460009

>>2459975
>Turgenev
>Dostoevsky

I don't get why Anglofags do this. Are Turgenyev and Dostoyevsky too hard to pronounce for you? What's more, the standard Slavic ortography anywhere outside of Russia for "y" is "j".

>> No.2460026

>>2459975
NICE MAN, BUT IF WE`RE TALKING ABOUT UNDER APPRECIATED RUSSIAN AUTHORS ON /LIT/, THOSE TWO ARE FAR FROM IT.
>>2459950
AT LEAST OP BROUGHT UP IBSEN

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>>2459999
I am sorry to have exposed you to such horrid writing, my heart bleeds for the pain I have inflicted upon you.

>>2460001
Very understandable, must admit, I regret taking the subject. I was looking to slack off in English seeing how I do HL Physics and Math.

>>2460002
I do not intend to.

>> No.2460048

>>2459995
Oh dang, where u from?

>> No.2460055
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>>2460048
Norway.

>> No.2460076

>>2460055
Could you by any chance recommend any interesting recent Norwegian lit that is a) not Ibsen or Hamsun and b) not crime fiction? I think Jon Fosse looks quite interesting - have you read him?

>> No.2460078

>>2460008
>>2460028
>>2460055
>zyzz
>illiterate
>australian
>dead

He's never related, probably in another board but certainly not here.

>> No.2460085

>>2460078
he's the reason I only do cardio.

>> No.2460098

>>2459969

You're a faggot with butt AIDS.

>> No.2460099

>>2459950
>Henrik Ibsen
Georg Brandes and Strindberg is where it's at.

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>>2460076
Jon Fosse is very popular, not so much to my taste but I would definitely give it a shot! Tore Renberg is also worth a go (The Man Who Loved Yngve)

Personally, I would say Swedish literature surpasses Norwegian, by far.
*Cough* Stieg Larsson *Cough*

>> No.2460108

>>2460100
>Stieg Larsson
>Literature

Surely you jest.

>> No.2460114

>>2460108
He's from /fit/, give him a break

>> No.2460117

>>2460055
why are musclefit men the equivalence of women with silicona and operations? I have uttered earlier on /lit/ that the stupidity of masculinity is transparent. I understand the saying that ignorance is bliss. And transparent stupidity is merely a radiation that says intellect is not a priority. Doesn't necessarily say the person is not wise or very functional in its system and strategies. I am opposite. My presence radiates "overthinker", not functional in its system and strategies.

>> No.2460128

>>2460100
Thanks for the recommendation. I can't seem to find English translations of Tore Renberg, but perhaps I can read him in Norwegian when I've got better at it.

>> No.2460130

>>2460100
shit you're not so /lit/-fit, lol :)

Knut Hamsun, Kjell Askildsen, Erlend Loe, Henrik Ibsen, Aksel Sandemose, Jens Bjørneboe, Tarjei Vesaas,

>> No.2460136

>>2460130
Ohh yeah, I read Naive Super in English. I quite liked it.

Thanks for all these recommendations.

>> No.2460197

Swedish guy here, read Strindberg, Stagnelius and Söderberg. Stagnelius was a Romantic poet, though, so I'm not sure how his works work out when translated.

>> No.2460198

>>2460197
I think I once visited a small museum about Stagnelius on Öland. Possible?

>> No.2460199

>>2460136
I loved Naiv Super. If you like more fresh contemporary literature from Norway you might like Johan Harstad. His short stories, especially those in "Ambulance"(not sure if translated..), are very good. Nikolaj Frobenius has a fantastic book, similar to Perfume: "De Sade's Valet". Erik Fosnes Hanses has pretty rich books.

Other famous worth mentioning but not really my cup of tea are Dag Solstad, Jostein Gaarder and maybe Lars Saabye Christensen. Agnar Mykle. I probably leave some out. Poets of course don't get translated.. My favorite of Hamsun is - Pan, and Hunger, Jostein Gaarder: The Solitaire Mystery. Kjell Askildsen is brilliant, but don't know if translated.

>> No.2460203

>>2460198
Yep, that's where he was born and grew up. He learned how to read from observing the local tombstones.

>> No.2460209

>>2460130
>>2460199
Also, Norwegian guy, what's the name of your author who wrote extremely controversial stuff in the 70's and became an hero at about 35?

>> No.2460210

>>2460203
That fits Romanticism insanely well. Sure that's not mythology?

>> No.2460236

>>2460203
That would be cool to include in a short story or something.

>>2460199
Brilliant, thanks for this. I'm writing down all these names in Notepad. I read Hunger by the way and really liked it. I'd like to check out more Hamsun.

>>2460209
Sounds interesting, I'd like to know his name.

>> No.2460259

>>2460210

The Stagnelius Society presents it as fact, and since their website has a separate section for anecdotes about him, I'd say it's believable.

I wholeheartedly recommend him to anyone who understands Swedish, and really anyone else with access to a good translation. Stagnelius is my favourite poet as he really sums up the (Swedish) Romanticism - grace, yet turbulent emotion and the enourmous skill required to convey all this without turning it into over-the-top whangsty feces. Whenever I have strong feelings that I cannot really put into words, I read some Stagnelius. If I'm happy, his skill expresses my happiness, even though it might be a sad poem that I'm reading. If I'm sad, well shit, son, he was the expert on unrequited love and longing for a different life.

I haven't read much Romantic prose, though... Looking for a cheap copy of Werther atm. My inner Romantic yearns for moar.

>> No.2460264

>>2460209
That can be Agnar Mykle, but probably Jens Bjørneboe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sangen_om_den_r%C3%B8de_rubin
In addition to writing only "anti-societal" literature, nagging on about the horrors of human condition, war crimes, needs etc.. he specifically wrote "Without a stitch".

>> No.2460280

>>2460264
Yes, Björneboe is the one I meant! Thanks! Has anyone read anything by him?

>> No.2460347

>>2460280
Well I norwayfag has.
He is arguably one of the most depressing authors ever (a frequent request here on /lit/). But fierce. Gotta love him for his passion. His trilogy mentioned on wiki is his strongest and darkest.

>> No.2460768

>>2459975
>>2459991

Wait, what's all this Lovecraft deprecation?

Personally I find his stories more enjoyable than Poe's.

>> No.2460811

>>2460055
Ive read the Long Ships.

I need brutal scandinavian literature that has equal amounts of violence and excellent prose. Translated to literature and with an epub source would be preferable.

>> No.2460822

I will love forever the person who can get me The Way of a Serpent by Torgny Lindgren in ebook form.

>> No.2460843

>>2459975
>claims there is no Turgenev
>check wiki
>Turgenev
I knew the majority of /lit/ was retarded