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Can /lit/ figure out the problem set ive created, any bright minded phonologists out there?

>> No.2459588

the meer fact that porok has different forms in the dative, dependant on meaning, suggests that the rules are not strict.

>> No.2459597

>>2459529
no, we won't do your homework for you

>> No.2459601

yeah the rules cannot be strict as the dative suffix is different to the normative strictly on the meaning (threshold and vice) hmm cant figure out a general rule...

>> No.2459603

>>2459597
Jesus fucking Christ you're a fucking retard.
Kill yourself.

>> No.2459609

>>2459603
youdidntfuckingtrollmefaggot1/10tryharderiaintevenmad.jpg

>> No.2459611

>please help me with my homework

>> No.2459613

OP here This is not homework ive created a few other problem sets with a friend who also works in phonology. The rules have already been completed in written form and rule form. Just thought there might be a few other people on /lit/ who enjoyed problem sovling.

>> No.2459636

I'm pretty sure you can't derive a phonological rule from that data alone, unless there's some consistent semantic factor i'm missing

>> No.2459657

The rule isnt straight forward, you have to write a rule around the problems that you see for example. Sat-into satu prut- prutu. Simple the the voiceless plosive t changes to the voiced plosive d. Though this does not work for svet - svetu as the t stays. Take this into consideration when writing the rule including the rest of the data. Think about using distinctive features to help write the rule. Coronal anterior ect..

>> No.2459663

Show us how the words are spelled (cyrillic) otherwise there is no chance in hell.

>> No.2459671

>>2459663
you're an idiot

>> No.2459679

I can't show you how its spelt in the russian alphabet. This is phonology problem set :/

>> No.2459706
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2459706

>skippan phonology class today
>come to /lit/
>mfw phonology problem set on front page

>> No.2459712

You shouldnt of skipped your class!! do your phonology work.

>> No.2459760

hmmmmmmmmm tricky.

>> No.2459803

brain hurts.

>> No.2459810
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2459810

>>2459712
>You shouldnt of skipped your class!
>shouldnt of skipped your class
>shouldnt of
>mfw

>> No.2459833

>>2459529
vocalization of last consonant sound in some cases, a vowel sound added in some cases as the suffix?

Bases are what is identical in both columns?

I failed eng phonetics last semester and have no classes in phon. this semester ¯\(°_o)/¯

>> No.2459891

Yes those are the bases the root of the word. Some consonants become voiced, but why some and not others? "Zakas" becomes "Zakazu" the voicless s changes to the voiced z. Why does the voicless t in "Zakat" not become voiced in "zakatu" when the vowel u is added. It changes in "sat" to the voiced d "sadu".

>> No.2459915
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2459915

You form the dative by taking the nominative singular, and adding a "u."


Pic related, it's the calibre of person intended to grasp this rule.

>> No.2459927

Look again.... yes you form the dative from the nominative by adding "u" but some of the last voiceless consonants on the norminative side become voiced when the "u" is added. Why is this?

>> No.2459943

>>2459927

>expecting rationality or logic from slavs

>> No.2460006

Change the last consonant to the unvoiced/voiced version. Add -u. Not sure what the system is but that is the beginning.

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2460015

sage

>> No.2460089

wuuuuuuuut