[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/lit/ - Literature

View post   
File: 159 KB, 500x500, nmh5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
2449396 No.2449396 [Reply] [Original]

Finally, here it is, fresh off the press!

TAR Issue #12!

http://www.theaprilreader.org/march2012.html

In this issue you'll be able to read about a farmer's persistant struggle with a rock, one young girl's upbringing with her mudwrestlermom in England and a story about a lovers kiss between two young girls.

We have also added a 10 dollar poetry prize. Be sure to read the winner poem by Maja Topic.

What's also new for this issue is the ability to donate money via Paypal. The April Reader guarantees that this money will only go toward increasing the prize pool for the Authors.

What is TAR?
The April Reader strives to inspire the members of the next generation of artists. This is what makes TAR serious about not only publishing, but also constantly improving what is released.
The April Reader is currently published on 4chan and Reddit.

Submit your own writings to Theaprilreader@gmail.com, today!

>> No.2449408

>>2449396
>one young girl's upbringing with her mudwrestlermom in England
>"England"
>not Britain or UK
I've got a bad feeling about this already. Downloading.

>> No.2449414

>>2449408

England is an actual place you know, you wouldn't get pissed of if they were talking about someone's upbringing in Scotland.

>> No.2449425

>>2449396
Nice cover!

>> No.2449427

Hey guys quick poll question: Does anyone still care about the April Reader besides people who submitted stuff to it? Respond yes/no

>> No.2449434

>>2449425
Agreed, but where's my damn nude blonde youth?

>>2449427
Yes, I haven't submitted. I tend only the read the poetry though.

After my brief perusal, I think Memory by Kushal Poddar is my favourite. I'll need to read more carefully and offer critique where I can.

>> No.2449446

>>2449427
I usually read the shorter stories because of ADHD

>> No.2449453

I always look forward to reading TAR each month. I'll be back in a few hours to read and comment.

>> No.2449458

>>2449427
no

>> No.2449481
File: 38 KB, 250x217, 1266723941502.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
2449481

>>2449408
Disaster averted! Once I saw the title, I knew it'd be OK and not "bloody, bloody Yank High Tea, bloody". Decent read. The author did a good job balancing what the reader sees versus what the kid does. Only significant gripe was the dialogue in the final scene was more clunky than jarring.

Also, mfw some of the lasses would probably try the vaginal claw, which is illegal.

>> No.2449489

>>2449414
It's not about being pissed off. Just wary of stories set in "Eng-land", a quaint olde country which has The Queen, London and Scotland in it.

>> No.2449497

>>2449489
What the fuck are you on about?

>> No.2449499

>>2449489
>implying the girl isn't from scotland but later moved to london and then moved again.

Its about England, deal with it.

>> No.2449519

I have to say "Me Mam" is a really fascinating story. It's certainly good enough to get published in a real magazine (like, I would pay to read it.)

>> No.2449533

I think T.S Eliot is in this issue. I reckon.

>> No.2449537

>>2449533
That ain't Eliot. It's T. S. Ash Ketchum.

>> No.2449591

Hi there guys, I really dont like to bother you. But if you are willing please upvote this thread on Reddit:

http://www.reddit.com/r/literature/comments/qdtg7/newly_released_issue_12_of_the_literary_journal/

Since Reddits Upvoting system is retarded only the hot threads get reads thus amounting to more reads. Its a catch 22 basically.

Thanks, TAR Staff Editor.

>> No.2449603

>>2449591
What's the "show my flair" thing? And can we multiple account?

>> No.2449620

>>2449591
I have to create a log in name? Fuck that shit.

Great issue, though. All of it is good, even the poetry.

>> No.2449633

>>2449620
Someone do arse full of farts.

>> No.2449636

>>2449633
Yours, big boy?

>> No.2449663

Passing By A Churchyard is the best thing TAR has ever published.

It moved me greatly.

>> No.2449668

>>2449663
Oh, hey, T. S. Ash.

>> No.2449677

>>2449668

mfw I'm not T.S. Ash and just really enjoyed the poem.

>> No.2449718

well shit, it looks a lot better than it used to. the website still needs work though.

>> No.2449729

>>2449591
>having a reddit account

don't think so chum

>> No.2449734

>>2449718
i think the website looks good. what's wrong with it?

>> No.2449735

Haven't read the poetry yet, but the fiction is all pretty good. The Stone in the Field, Love's Drowsiness Still Lasts, and The Heat and the Dark are the standouts for me.

>> No.2449778
File: 56 KB, 300x437, LeoTolstoy12.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
2449778

>2012
>people not reading TAR

>> No.2449794

why don't people write poetry that rhymes anymore?

>> No.2449810

>>2449794
no answers. check mate /lit/. check... mate...

>> No.2449814

>>2449810
Rhyme is too self-aware and contrived. We are all apathes.

>> No.2449838

>>2449778
TAR is pretty much the only reason I hit up /lit/, anymore. Trufax.

>> No.2449855

why did the stone in the field get the award

am i missing something

>> No.2449884

Shock/horror! The poetry is awful.

>> No.2449899

>>2449884
Why don't you start by telling us what you didn't like about them?

>> No.2449900

>>2449855
Yes. You are lacking good taste and probably some intellect.

>> No.2449933

>>2449900
>people acting like they've never seen a huge rock before
>award winning

>> No.2449974
File: 126 KB, 497x500, 1330652167074.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
2449974

>> No.2449984
File: 20 KB, 433x430, 1312311144396.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
2449984

>>2449900
>hurr my taste is better than yours
>no explanation

/lit/

>> No.2450037

>>2449984
I don't want to (nor feel the need to) convince you of how unrefined your tastes are, if you didn't see the merit in "The Stone in the Field." I merely want to make you aware of your inadequacies. The rest is up to you.

>> No.2450051

romans 16:18 - 6/10 - the writing isn't bad but doesn't go anywhere for me. maybe i don't get it. i looked up the verse in question. is someone being tricked here?

>> No.2450052
File: 123 KB, 497x492, aaaaaaaa1330652167074.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
2450052

>> No.2450063

>>2450052

Why do you do this?

>> No.2450074

>>2450051
Hmm, it could be read either way. Either the church is tricking people into coming to mass, so they can get food, or the couple who has come (neglecting the mass) who are obviously there for the food, are going along with whatever prayer stuffs just to get fed.

It's a who's trolling who story, I think.

>> No.2450076

>>2450051
Thanks for reading and taking the time to comment. The lack of direction is the main flaw, I'd say. It was difficult for me to come up with a title, but I felt that verse suited the piece because I always felt guilty eating at the church being an atheist.

>> No.2450086

>>2450074
The latter supposition is correct. I'm glad you understood that part.

>> No.2450092
File: 133 KB, 492x497, calledbeingpomohomo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
2450092

>>2450063

>> No.2450099
File: 8 KB, 480x323, jtjt.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
2450099

>>2450092

>> No.2450109
File: 140 KB, 492x497, 1330666045108.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
2450109

>>2450092

>> No.2450120
File: 135 KB, 492x497, ishygddt.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
2450120

>>2450109

>> No.2450145

So, can anyone tell me why Stones in the Field won the award? It just did nothing for me emotionally and the prose is adequate but not stunning so I'm not really sure why it won.

>> No.2450150

>>2450145
Is there anything better in the issue?

>> No.2450153
File: 137 KB, 492x497, ishygddt.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
2450153

>>2450145

>> No.2450156

>>2450150
I haven't read everything else but so far, not really. But not by that much either.

>> No.2450197

>>2450145
i enjoyed the story and it was well told. i interpret it as saying existential questions are not worth asking, but i'm a bit of a lout

in any case, i do agree that the editors should have included an explanation for their awarding the prize to the piece that they did as they have in past editions

>> No.2450223

>>2450145
I can see why it won. In many ways, it is a parable. In the middle of the story is the farmer who wants nothing more than to plant his field (work) but the enormous rock brings the religious folk and the students to the site, which hinder his working even more than the rock actually did.

There's a lot of significance in the photo the farmer saves toward the end: it's a kid enjoying the only ear of good corn he grew that year. In many respects, seeing that enjoyment is the farmer's religion and his scholarship. By covering up the rock he rids his farm of the only really "remarkable thing" about him, and everyone loses interest and goes away. He is not interested in mere fame, because he doesn't see it as work, and it doesn't satisfy him personally, because he doesn't see that he, himself, planted satisfaction on anyone's face--except for the photo.

It's a good story, mang.

>> No.2450240

>>2450223
I had understood it as a parable, (farmer, scientists and religious people, kind of obvious) but I hadn't grasped the significance of the photo. Thanks.

>> No.2450274
File: 12 KB, 265x297, gasp.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
2450274

Oh god... TAR's main audience is 4chan... what have I done?

>> No.2450285
File: 15 KB, 300x300, my grade.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
2450285

>edgy hipster wanna be writers make a magazine for themselves to pretend they're anything but amateurs clogging up a literature board with PLEASE CRITIQUE MY 2DEEP4PRINTING NOVELLA

I wouldn't mind if it was just this thing spamming a few threads now and then, but you ALWAYS post your filth, it's ALWAYS bad, my god

read an issue of this once, regret it to this day, retards feel the need to write about people pissing in subway stations in front of old ladies

tl;dr; you're not real writers, I will post this in every thread so you don't get high brow and start bashing popular writers and genres.... oh wait you already were doing that weren't you faggots?

>> No.2450290

>>2450285
It's fun to laugh at; /lit/'s dead this time of year anyway.

>> No.2450301

>>2450285

I agree. I think Andrew Dice Clay's routine had a little more intelligence than most of what passes for literature in TAR.

>> No.2450303

>>2450285
There is absolutely no harm in TAR. Some people think it's the best thing about /lit/.

Also, you sound a little butthurt.

>> No.2450312

>retards feel the need to write about people pissing in subway stations in front of old ladies
>caring about plot
>implying anyone will suddenly not "get high brow" because a retard posted

oh u

>> No.2450323

I remember when people used to talk about specific stories or poems rather than "hurr durr tar is shit all of it sucks, stop doing things and be more sedentary like i am, faggotz"

>> No.2450326

>>2450323
remembering is not that hard considering it was only like 10 posts ago

>> No.2450332

>>2450285
>I read something else once and it was awful
>you are horrible edgy amateurs
Don't you mean;
>I wrote a sonnet for TAR and was rejected
>by TAR

I feel bad for you, broski.

>> No.2450394

Two words.

Parrot

Porn

>> No.2450396

>>2450394
You meant
>Two words:

>> No.2450404

Why is Prole gone god dammit fcking Christ monkey jews?

>> No.2450406

>>2450396
Pedantic much for a post.

>> No.2450411

>>2450406
You meant
>Prescient much for a poast.

>> No.2450427

>>2450411
>poast
Also
>implying

>> No.2450456
File: 56 KB, 704x528, costanza.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
2450456

>>2450303
reading comprehension faggot, my problem is not with the magazines but with your attitude
you think yourself high class shit and won't discuss real authors except to bash them, showing your ignorance

>hurr jk rowling is full of plotholes
>durr rr martin is fat

and so on
meanwhile you make threads like
>what should I write about lit?
>tell me how to write better lit
>acknowledge my novella lit, will I be published do you think?

>>2450332
HAHAHAHAHAHAH

LOOK AT THE ANGSTY WANNA BE WRITER

HE THINKS EVERYONE ON THIS BOARD IS AS PATHETIC AS HIM

I wish we'd get a writing board for you assbandits

>> No.2450463

>>2450456

We do. It's called /b/.

>> No.2450476

<3 TAR

>> No.2450513

romans 16:18 - 6/10

rock - 8/10

drowsiness - 5/10

medusa - youjustwatchedtheinterrupters/10

the heat and the dark - 7/10 - some of the expository dialogue seemed unnatural, but the last two or three pages are good

>> No.2450536

>>2450456
Stupid post is stupid.

>> No.2450664

Bump for mediocrity.

>> No.2450686

>>2450463
Here is my opinion on why The Stone in the Field won.

It's really well-written. Every word has weight and thought. The author doesnt seem to have a single unnecessary word in there.

The story is fun, like rural folklore. It has a certain narrative style. You can almost hear the narrator talking to you.

Its formatted well and lends to a fast reading.
The prose is quite simple but yet descriptive.

You can see that someone have put hours of work into this text.

Did I also mention that it is good?

>> No.2450768

>>2450456
You're a moron.

>> No.2450822

TAR LIFE

>> No.2450842

Pretty decent issue. I haven't been to /lit/ since ZWG was around. I even did some "graphic design" for it (it wasn't very good, I'll admit) back in the day, but TAR looks really, really good. The cover out and layout are damn slick.

Going to give it a read now. Not sure why people feel the need to bash and mutter "mediocre" whenever anyone tries to do anything.

>> No.2450846

>>2450842

One of the big draws behind reading TAR was acting superior towards it, which for a while was very doable without coming off as completely fucking retarded or pretentious.

>> No.2450848

>>2450846
this is sadly true. myself included would read stuff and be like "well, at least i'm not this bad". now that the quality is increasing i'm beginning to wonder hahahaha

nah, i'm still better

no i'm not. and i really like Me Mam

>> No.2450852

Nice, put it on my phone for mobile consumption.

>> No.2450932

>>2450842
Hah, those early issues were such trainwrecks on /lit/. Good times

What issue did you work on, by the way?

>> No.2451104

Fryday bump.

>> No.2451149

POEPOEPOETRY

Window Recovery - 5/10, boring, plodding. Last two lines are good.
Memory - 6/10, not bad, but not memorable at all.
Unrequited Dualism - 8/10, knows its voice, good imagery, good sense of diction. Adore the 'when our cradle was cave' stanza.
Passing by a Churchyard - 6/10, obviously a poet who prefers romantics and their predecessors. Well-written, but doesn't how know to spell subtlety.

>> No.2451172
File: 30 KB, 500x333, Tegan&amp;sara59.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
2451172

>disturbing lack of hipster literature entries.
Seriously bros what's the deal?

>> No.2451178

It's a potato.

>> No.2451185

>>2451178
http://youtu.be/hRk6stnzQhE?t=10s

>> No.2451187

>>2451172
DIE MOTHERFUCKER DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE

ID KILL YOU MYSELF IF I WERE ABLE

STOP POSTING DYKES ALL OVER MY GODDAMNED /LIT/ YOU FUCKING COCKSUCKER, THEYRE UGLY, THEYRE DUMB AND THEY MAKE TERRIBLE MUSIC

>> No.2451194

>>2451185
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrQVFZx7XX4&feature=related

>>2451187
>THEY MAKE TERRIBLE MUSIC
You're the one that was dumb enough to go listen to them. I still don't know what Tegan and Sara sound like.

>> No.2451206
File: 71 KB, 500x598, ladysovcmon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
2451206

>>2451187
Whoa there bro.
I don't have to post 'em if you don't like it.

>> No.2451464

>>2449396
What is happening with this thread

>> No.2451468

What is unrequited duelism about?

>> No.2451470

I LOVE YOU JESUS CUH-RIIIIIIIIST~

>> No.2451471

>>2451468
*dualism.

>> No.2451473

>>2451206
you listen to capsguy with respect. you have no idea who you're fucking with.

>> No.2451478

Love the new style you guys have given the zine. Yes, I read it in spite of not having submitted. Most of it sucks, some is good. Congrats on the effort!

>> No.2451956

Bump for justice.

>> No.2451963

You guys remembered to email all the authors about this thread, right?

Actually, you might want to consider making a TAR mailing list for people who want to be informed about the release. It is pretty easy to miss the thread if you don't know about it in advance

>> No.2451967

>>2451963
They did send emails to the authors linking them to this thread. A mailing list might be a good idea; people could register for it on the site.

>> No.2451986

>>2451963
TAR comes out the first of each month... How hard is that to remember.

>> No.2451991

Stone and the Field was a little too bland for me. Was giving me Sherwood Anderson vibes and I hate those vibes.

>> No.2452054

>>2451967
>>2451963
TAR posts notification of its releases on Facebook, Google+, Twitter, /lit/ and its website. Added to this is what was already mentioned: we post on the first of the month, every month, always.

We're not quiet lions about our releases, and while we're open to all suggestions, we editors generally adhere to the motto "work smarter, not harder." We'll discuss a possible mailing list, but having it in addition to all the aforementioned notifications seems a bit unnecessary, in my eyes.

>> No.2452097

>>2452054
A mailing list would be easy to make and could incorporate all published authors along with various interested persons. It would actually make mailing duties simpler rather than more difficult if used properly.

The reason I suggest this is because it would be the easiest way to guarantee everyone involved sees the thread around the same time. I notice these threads seem to have gotten progressively less lively over time, this could be a way of combating this

>> No.2452118

>>2452097
Yes, I can see how it would be beneficial if used efficiently. Well, we'll see what we can implement. A simple e-mail field on the website would be easily done.

Any other suggestions are welcome!

>> No.2452152

>>2452118
The fuck happened to Prole?

>> No.2452154

>>2452118
>>2452118
Tell your faggot ass authors to use duotrope and get TAR more noticed by using their response program.

>> No.2452195

>>2452152
I quit from TAR voluntarily, if this is what you're wondering about. I'd been having constant sleeping problems for the last year or so and it was reaching the point where I felt that I simply could not deal with this sort of thing competently. It was an impulsive decision and I slightly regret it, but I guess it can't be helped. Besides, I was rapidly becoming redundant to the creation process and there is no point in having hangers-on. A three-editor organization is more manageable than a four-person deadlock.

TAR is a great organization, I have no complaints about the other editors. I'm quite it'll get even more successful as time progresses.

>> No.2452215

>>2452195
I will miss you. Tell us when you get back from your trip
:,(

>> No.2452220

>>2452152
Prole has resigned from the TAR project. It came rather suddenly for us other editors, as well, but he has his reasons (which may or may not involve international criminal tribunals.)

>>2452154
Excellent suggestion. We'll definitely be doing this.

>> No.2452329

>>2452195

Hey Prole, Andrew here. Really sorry to hear that you left, man. TAR and ZWG gave me goals and has helped me tremendously in my writing and it's thanks to you for getting them started. You made a positive difference in my life. Even if my stories aren't great, it was nice knowing that they would be read by SOMEONE rather than just evaporating in my mind. So again, thank you for everything Prole.

>> No.2452368

oh man, I talked to prole a couple of times when I hung out in the tar irc, he was cool, it sucks that he's gone.

>> No.2452419

Why did that poem win anything?

>> No.2452435

>>2452419
obligatory nod to poetry, probably

no poem has won anything yet, so they wanted to throw a bone at the "best" one

>> No.2452659

>>2452435
Was it best?

>> No.2452952

>>2452195
thanks for keeping the dream alive prole. we appreciate it (and the new editors as well)

>> No.2453170
File: 12 KB, 256x223, forrest interlude.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
2453170

hai maja :D hope you can read this!

i read your poem, and it is amazing :O
i think the poem is about living a life of 2 vastly contrasting themes, and the clash/impact they have on you as a person.

...i think XD i did terrible at english class so i'm not too sure :P

(btw, best music in the game)

-silent-J out.

>> No.2453208

>>2452659
I don't mean there "another best." I mean that the poetry wasn't worth awarding (and hasn't been forever) but TAR is throwing them a little bone so people don't start bitching about how poetry never wins any money.

>> No.2453217
File: 143 KB, 500x399, Tegan&amp;sara3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
2453217

>>2451473
Fuck CAPSGUY.

>> No.2453295

>>2453170

>...i think XD i did terrible at english class so i'm not too sure :P


there goes my credibility. although i appreciate interpretation because it spawns (however deluded) meaning and helps to refine personal values; i find dichotomy to be an essential beast that is naked and capable of sustaining itself amidst the cruelest of tempestuous atmospheres. without a cloak for warmth, at that.. it's a struggle we come to surpass with each innovative utterance. i don't think the human is a coward, considering expression and vulnerability are inextricable. once an intention is released and left independent to fend against misunderstanding and (in most cases) repugnance, we are likely to abandon what we originally strove to defend. the *bravest* are those who remain faithfully concentrated despite criticism. the rest convince themselves that they are dead and pursue validation elsewhere. insecure thieves that leech their nourishment out of foreign soil, eventually coming to entirely despise their history.

> td;lr words aren't necessary for there to be a paradox present. they just unearth the awareness of one

>> No.2453299

>>2453208

i sincerely hope for your sake that english is not your first language

>> No.2454592

>>2453208
But was it best?

>> No.2454606

>>2454592
Yeah, it was, but there were only four poems this issue.

>> No.2454670

>>2454606
Why?

>> No.2454674

>>2454670
prolly because only 4 were worth publishing

>> No.2455218

>>2454674
But is there anything good about it?

>> No.2455631

Sunday bump.

>> No.2456065

Editior here. How can we better TAR?

>> No.2456090
File: 25 KB, 640x480, anac.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
2456090

>>2449396
Do you guys no longer send rejection emails.

>that feel when you get rejected by TAR.

>> No.2456159

>>2456090
Yes, we should. There have been a slight stop in communication due to Prole leaving. We will hopefully get back on track for the next issue.

Also I would not like to call it a rejection, rather that you did not get selected.

This time I felt that we had some quite good texts that didn't make it, Cue, Caricatures were two such texts of the top of my head.

Just because you did not make it, its necessarily doesnt mean your text is bad for that matter.

>> No.2456311

Morning bump for discussion. Come out and read some all you philosophy bros.

>> No.2456872

>>2456065
Fiction's been on a steady improve, no issues there. Poetry has been very hit and miss though. Are none of you guys poemnuts or what? Feels like you only pick rather amateurish people attempting traditional styles without much success or identity.

>> No.2456875
File: 4 KB, 300x57, honedwitreader.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
2456875

>>2456159
>Also I would not like to call it a rejection, rather that you did not get selected.
Faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot

P faggy choice of words there. Check my captcha.

>> No.2456896

>>2456872
Someone says something like this every TAR thread.

It's absurd.

You think they're just overlooking all the great poems that they got and publishing the crap, right? That makes no fucking sense.

If you used your brain, you'd realize this is simply the best of the poems that they received. Don't blame TAR's "picks," blame the people submitting shit.

>> No.2456901

>>2456090
Is that you in your pic

>> No.2456903

>>2456896
I'm not accusing, I'm asking. If they get shit submissions, not their problem, but you'd think the /lit/kids would have something more interesting to contribute.

>> No.2456910

>>2456903
You must be new here.

>> No.2456911
File: 56 KB, 300x450, 147566564.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
2456911

10 dollars prize money? Jeez you may as well just ask us to give you some. Oh, you do.

>> No.2456937

I think the problem is that we receive rather little poetry in comparison to the amount of fiction we receive.

>> No.2456941
File: 262 KB, 500x375, Picture_3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
2456941

>>2456901
Could be.
Would it mean I have more chance of being published?

>> No.2456953
File: 52 KB, 500x500, anaCeatspizzarealgood.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
2456953

>>2456911
Always the complaints about the money, jeez.
Get a job you schmucks.

Being a writer is about being poor. If you're not poor, you are not an writer.

>> No.2456957

>>2456953
>If you're not poor, you are not an writer

0/10

>> No.2456962

>>2456911
Spamming /lit/ for hours with incest erotica covers? Jeeze, you might as well hikikomori yourself away in your parents' basement.

Oh, you do.

>> No.2456966

>>2456957
Fuck of Franzen and your claim that middle class literature is the new paradigm of lit.

>> No.2456970
File: 56 KB, 500x334, dfw-franzen.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
2456970

>>2456966
You're just mad because you aren't a New England egalitarian.

>> No.2456980
File: 5 KB, 100x128, ADLHDVNHBCHTSBRG.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
2456980

>>2456953

BEING A "WRITER" IS ABOUT "WRITING".

I "WRITE", THEREFORE I AM A "WRITER".

>> No.2456988

>>2456962
You're following me round.

So Tar. I had a look at it and even the editor can't write.

>> No.2457001

>>2456941
You look all right. I feel funny

>> No.2457008

>>2456988
Would you like to explain?

>> No.2457334

Will publish my thoughts that I had on some of the texts, (as you noticed our opinions vary on what should be published and not.)

Hopefully you authors do not mind some feedback.

LOVE'S DROWSINESS STILL LASTS
A mix between play and prose. An existential discussion between a former professor and a kid?
Smoking in third dialogue line.
Mixture of french-english.
Arty fucking Rimbaud?
Cmon, this is high-brow wannabe shit. 3/10
Rather not see this published.

ROMANS 16:18
short piece about poverty.
Subtle reference (the title) to perhaps the financial crisis and a
questioning of faith? Godfearing people in food lines, while
big cats on wall street fill their bellys?
The text isn't too obvious which leave space for the readers own interpretation.
Author writes like the situation is a common happening, which in turn lends it self for a more believable setting. It might be.
Short length. 7/10
Definitely for TAR.

>> No.2457339

THE CURSE OF
MEDUSA
7/10 Good length, use of own language, nice similes and
methaphors.

Nonlinear structure but still manages to keep the reader in check.

The narrative stutter at some points.

The author apparently is an elementary teacher in Chicago I wonder if he actually have lived through this.

THE STONE IN
THE FIELD
Winner. The author has a clear line of thought from first to last line. Short sentences with vivid descriptions. A fun story and plot with minor twists - and in the end the question of the photo. The farmer is likeable as well as believable.

>> No.2457350

THE HEAT AND
THE DARK
A southern landscape where two girls walk from some kind
of religious ceremony? The sweaty night atmosphere is tangible. Simple yet delicate writing.
The dialogue feels alive and childish, inquiring and explorative, I guess its on purpose since the characters seem like kids.
Would like it to be included.
7/10

Lets see if I can find the poetry. I also have notes for the rejected ones, but I wont publish them without the authors permission.

>> No.2457356

i guess prole isn't around to keep the other editors in check lol

this thread sucks so bad. let it die

>> No.2457361

theswedisheditor is actually a monk living in thailand...

>> No.2457364

>>2457356
>>2457361
btw sage is actually a monkey living in thailand

>> No.2457366

The two poetrynotes I found:

PASSING BY A
CHURCHYARD
(POETRY)
The guy has an idea, a structure and the classic theme of
life and death.
There is something about the slow lumbering pace.
Neither toughtprovoking or with brilliant wordplay
But its wellmade and I like it.
´
Its probably my pick for poetry winner.

BEN NARDOLILLI
(POETRY)
Window Recovery 7:
Somewhat funny, and I kinda liked it. Apathic poet becomes reactionary and takes a stand against... his browser. Somewhat catchy end.

>> No.2457362

This is the death of TAR.

>> No.2457370

>>2457362
*eyes roll*

Here we go again, with the monthly TAR death proclamations.

>> No.2457373

>>2457362
Yes, TAR just totally lost all their "credibility". I can't wait until the next months critical columns in the Paris review and New York post. A deathknell to culture and a sad day.

>> No.2457374

no we're not here to actually discuss literature. we've got professors for that. after all, this is...oh, wait...

>> No.2457386

no, sage is theswedisheditor, generating publicity

>> No.2457388

>>2457386
meh. prole at least had the decency not to spam the shit out of these threads

>> No.2457397

>>2457388
I really dont get your point. He's made three posts on three different subjects. Counting the notes (3 posts) as one.

>> No.2457407

>>2457397
obvious dropped trip is obvious

yeah, three fucking days after everyone stopped giving a shit. what did you do, rescue this thread from page 15?

go away, losers

>> No.2457426

>>2457334
Concept behind Love's Drowsiness was a 'story' coming out of a shameless mess of references (as an awful lot of contemporary blogosphere fiction, ala Muumuu House, has become); hence the constant quoting of Rimbaud and Homer and the superficial allusions to the events of the Odyssey and the early life of the poet. A bit sloppy, but I certainly don't hold any sort of 'high-brow wannabe' mindset.

Feedback is appreciated regardless.

>> No.2457448

>>2457426
Yes, I realized the notes might come out a bit harsh on that one. I just wasn't able to pass that mental barrier. However the other Editors disagreed with me, and your text justly got in. Since it is well written.

Anyway I appreciate that you like the feedback. We are currently experimenting with some different kind of feedback forms. My notes might not be all that good. But it is perhaps a beginning.

>> No.2457463

>>2457448
You should send notes to everyone. The bitches will cry, but the people who need it will take it well.
>>2457426
Hey rejected bro. Use duotrope and Get TAR more noticed on there. You'll do better next time, but you need to report on duotrope.

>> No.2457494

>>2457334
Thanks for the feedback on Romans. I always feel strange submitting prose since I'm more of a poet and feel that my prose is not very good. The positive but middling reviews I've received ITT make me want to work harder on my prose and submit again.

>> No.2458071
File: 5 KB, 199x176, troll_smiley.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
2458071

>People complaining when TAR(ds) publicly explain reasons for why they picked what they did
>despite the fact that authors are always going to be judged by these guidelines, whether visible or not

Just throwing that out there

>> No.2458657

>>2458071
How is that?

>> No.2458691

So I've finally gotten around to reading this issue. First of all, I'd like to say thanks to TAR for bringing back the links in the table of contents. It makes browsing the issue a lot easier.

I thought The Stone in the Field was all right. The prose seemed pretty clumsy in the beginning, but it drew me in quickly and I didn't notice the prose again. I like the idea of the piece, and it was actually okay/good by non-TAR standards.

I think Love's Drowsiness could have beaten it, though. If only the author had done better on the blind man's section. That was some awkward as fuck dialogue.

>> No.2458703

>>2458691
More on the dialogue, actually. It was so bad because it was obviously the author putting his own words in the old man's mouth. They didn't belong there, and it ruined the character and the story he told.

>moar reading

>> No.2458732

>>2458703
But didn't you feel love's drowsiness was horribly melodramatic? It struck me as trying desperately to pose thematically to cover up for basically poor writing

>> No.2458746

>>2458732
I would definitely say that the old man's story was horribly melodramatic. Not so much the rest of it, though.

I just finished Medusa. There are parts that I like and parts that I don't. I feel ambivalent about it. The Medusa herself and all that was good, but the church scene didn't catch me as well as that. I don't much care for the way the neighborhood was written.

The quality in this issue is definitely pretty good. Nothing under a 5/10 so far.

>> No.2458765

The Heat and the Dark is my favorite so far. The writing doesn't take me out of the story and it was interesting and believable. And it didn't have that obviously-trying-to-say-something-deep aspect to it that a lot of the other pieces had. I liked it quite a bit.

>> No.2458766

>>2458691
>>2458703
>>2458732
>>2458746
>>2449396
Please continue.

>> No.2458840

Me Mam kind of bored me. But I felt sympathetic with the narrator and the prose wasn't bad. Still a solid piece, if a little too long.

Over all this was a good issue for prose. I'll read the poetry now, but I can't promise to comment on it.

>> No.2458899

The first thing I have to say about the poetry is that you should go back to having only one poem per page. It looks cluttered and the poems have no space to breathe. You never start a new story on the page the previous one ended on. Why do it with poetry? And why start now? I strongly believe it should be changed back.

>> No.2458905

>>2458899
I thought they never did that.

>> No.2459299

>>2458905
they did in one of the issues, and then they seemed to have switched back

>> No.2459530

>>2459299
That seems like a good idea. I will keep that in mind until next issue.

>> No.2459946

>>2458899
No poetry opinions? :(

>> No.2460609

>>2459946
I didn't care for the poetry this issue, but I might do it later. Others should read and share their opinions - that's what this thread is for.

>> No.2461474

Well we need some poetry opinions.

>> No.2461509

>>2456941
Anyone in love with those girl? Is she here..

>> No.2461511

>>2461509
ana carrete? she edits html giant and makes absurd posts on twitter

>> No.2461521

>>2461511
Oh I thought she might be a b side girl, not a no. 1 hit.

>> No.2461529

>>2461521
i think htmlgiant and a twitter account is pretty b-side

>> No.2461897

bamping

>> No.2462054

How did the advertising on reddit go you fucking faggots?

>> No.2462650

>>2456953
Her hand looks like a claw. Eww.

>> No.2462728

>>2462054
How come you don't look it up for yourself?

>> No.2462739

>>2462054
see for yourself
http://www.reddit.com/r/literature/comments/qdtg7/newly_released_issue_12_of_the_literary_journal/
(i.e. didn't last longer than 4 days)

>> No.2463005

>>2462739
TAR doesn't have the same kind of author/reader community as on /lit/. I'm not saying all of the people who read TAR are also the authors, but the core readership who built TAR up to what it is was. Very little advertising has been done on reddit, hence there are less submissions being sent hence there are less people interested in TAR.

My opinion is you might even have to start a separate reddit version of TAR, build it up to the point where it is good, and then merge it with TAR to form a larger conglomerate. It is very difficult to grab good authors if you don't have megabucks

>> No.2463778

>>2463005
That's why I think duotrope must be used by the accepted authors. I think TAR editors need to send the authors info about duotrope and ask them to use it do response time and acceptances will show better on that site.

>> No.2463972

TAR is officially dead.

>> No.2463983

>>2463972
nope

>> No.2463990

>>2463983
Prole is gone. There is little hope.

>> No.2464089

>>2463990
If prole was such a god, how could he have selected idiots as his successors? I don't think there's any reason to worry. As long as these guys keep publishing, and we keep submitting...

>> No.2464106

>>2463005
sounds like solid corporate strategy. would you care to join us, mr. goldman sachs? for a game of chess?

btw TAR dies if people keep discussing form instead of content. if threads are continually filling up with premature death notices or death threats.

So I'm giving my opinion on the winner poem.

I was blown away by the sound. I don't really know what it means. But when I read it I felt elevated. Probably nobody knows what it means. But it's beautiful.

The others I didn't care much about.

>> No.2464110
File: 109 KB, 400x499, learnings.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
2464110

>>2464106

>I don't really know what it means.

She wants teh cawk. Unless it's a guy (but I don't think so), in which case he wants teh cawk.

>inflated vertigo
>pervades my restless sheets.
>tension haunts my patience;

missing her boyfriend, innit.

>our footsteps sink
>to be swept underneath bridges
>where to venture would be to mean
>resignation to a shadow

"do I, don't I? best not - don't go back and all that, but boy howdy, I miss teh cawk."

I thought it was a pretty good poem - not actually my thing, but definitely worth $10 of someone else's money.

There, that's my practical criticism for the day done - I think I'll go for a well-earned wank.

>> No.2464198

>>2464106
I thought it was douchebaggery or jackwankery in its highest form. The flow was good then bad the faggy then herp derp. A poem needs to flow well or it's like taking a butt plug out too fast, or in too fast, either way a waterfall of hit is headed your way if you don't watch how you shove that butt plug in. Now the church yard poem though obvious and emo bitch misses his mom type deal it still flows the best and it doesn't have to try hard with its vocabulary to work. Not that the one poem is all too complicated it's just try hard. It's too jackwankery for my taste.

>> No.2464205

>>2464198
>jackwankery
Is that what the kids at your school say? Your name's not Jack Ranger or something is it?

>> No.2464207

>>2464205
It's what my old coach used to say if we were playing with ourselves instead of showering. I've been trying to force that as a meme for months. But coach was right I never could force meme on anything.

>> No.2464228

>>2464207
I would read this fanfic.

>> No.2464256

>>2464228
TAR won't publish interesting stories anymore because parrot porn was a little too much for the audience. You need to fuck a few blueberries before you go and get your dick reattached to a parrot etc. problem is Rey pussied out. The poetry should at least be gratuitous. Or they should have their once every third month fuck fest issue. Draw in the crowds. It kind of sickens me be because the way this publication could have gone might have been really neat. Now it's all psuedohipsters and hipster posters including myself. Sad world. Of course the best story is still in issue 8.

>> No.2464266
File: 58 KB, 500x374, sam_pink_reading.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
2464266

>>2464256
>hipsters
Nope, that word isn't what you think it is.

>> No.2464278

>>2464266
>implying not everyone on /lit/ isn't hip like that cool cat.