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Anonymous Wed Feb 29 19:41:55 2012 No.2446630 [Reply] [Original]

Well now I'm depressed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 29 19:42:55 2012 No.2446633 That's just the way big brother wants you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 29 19:44:55 2012 No.2446637 Watch the film now. John Hurt will make you hurt. I wish Orwell had been alive to comment on it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 29 19:45:56 2012 No.2446640 After reading it I really feel bad for people in North Korea.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 29 19:47:55 2012 No.2446646 The moral of this story is don't talk to women.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 29 19:59:56 2012 No.2446667 Rats don't eat babies do they?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 29 20:02:55 2012 No.2446677 isnt everybody supposed to have read this in like 5th grade?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 29 20:06:59 2012 No.2446684 >>2446667 Rats will eat anything. Their jaws can gnaw through concrete. They are however timid by nature, so they tend not to eat living things larger than them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 29 20:07:59 2012 No.2446686 File: 21 KB, 296x406, redditguy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] the movie was way better

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 29 20:07:59 2012 No.2446687 What is Orwell saying, human beings are basically fucked?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 29 20:07:59 2012 No.2446688 >>2446677 >5th I just read this "fythe". That means it's time to go to bed. Now look at me, I'm shitposting. Sage.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 29 20:08:59 2012 No.2446692 >>2446684 apparently human flesh tastes nasty raw, like we are naturally disgusting to eat, and only pigs will indiscriminately eat us, rats and other carnivores will out of desperation.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 29 20:09:00 2012 No.2446693 >>2446692 Evolution at work.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 29 20:09:00 2012 No.2446695 >>2446692 Nope, a domestic cat will start eating its dead owner in no time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 29 20:11:00 2012 No.2446701 File: 203 KB, 500x281, rudy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2446695 just cause it happened on misfits doesn't make it real

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 29 20:12:00 2012 No.2446703 >>2446701 I don't know what that is, I assume a tv show, I'm quoting a different tv show however.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 29 20:13:00 2012 No.2446706 >>2446701 >didn't live next door to a dead cat lady >didn't know someone who lived next door to a dead cat lady You wouldn't believe how common cat's eating a dead owner is.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 29 20:20:00 2012 No.2446727 I see this thread every day I come to /lit/. And then I read the thread, because it may have interesting discussion. Then I'm greeted by this responses >>2446640 >>2446646 >>2446686 >>2446687 >>2446692

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 29 20:46:59 2012 No.2446790 >>2446727 Grace us with your bountiful wisdom then, suggest a topic for discussion.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 29 20:51:00 2012 No.2446810 File: 43 KB, 460x500, 1228936-this_thread_again_super.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 1984 is the only existing book for /lit/

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 29 20:54:59 2012 No.2446815 Can anyone who has read "We" comment on the similarities? Does it have a happier ending? I agree with the OP 1984 really bummed me out like no other book.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 29 21:06:00 2012 No.2446840 This book was shit, and was one of Orwell's worst. >>2446677 Yes >>2446687 People like you made me hate this book more than I already did.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 29 21:08:59 2012 No.2446845 >>2446815 We was worse in just about every way than 1984...it's only mildly popular so fags can be like ''ohh but have you read zamyatin hurrr durr'' Anyway best Dystopian work was done by W.S. Burroughs.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 29 21:08:59 2012 No.2446846 >>2446840 >People like you made me hate this book more than I already did. It's comforting to know I exert such an influence upon you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 29 21:14:59 2012 No.2446870 Can anyone tell me if there's a message of hope somewhere in here?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 29 21:17:00 2012 No.2446879 >>2446870 Yes, in the end he was victorious, he loved big brother. So you see anyone can be saved.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 29 21:18:00 2012 No.2446882 File: 117 KB, 261x298, 1326626375724.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2446879

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 29 21:22:59 2012 No.2446890 >>2446870 If you read the first half of the novel and stop, then there might be.

Anonymous Wed Feb 29 21:28:01 2012 No.2446911

I found it to be kinda enjoyable.
However, Brave New World was better written, and more accurately "predicted" (and I use this term EXTREMELY loosely) the world as it is today.

Orwell feared the censor, where the people would not have access to adequate information.
Huxley feared that people would just not care about the information, and would merely be content with base pleasures.

HMMMMMMM, GUESS WHICH ONE IS MORE RELEVANT?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 29 21:36:00 2012 No.2446937 File: 744 KB, 570x4550, 1328886713813.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2446911 Puppet

Anonymous Wed Feb 29 21:36:00 2012 No.2446936

>>2446911
they were dealing with different threats. Orwell was a communist who had an eye to Stalinism.

Not to mention one could make the argument that the fact that Orwell does a better job because after all this time, his demon is slain and Huxley's isn't.

Anonymous Wed Feb 29 21:37:03 2012 No.2446940

>>2446911
>GUESS WHICH ONE IS MORE RELEVANT?
The censor. Almost every information we receive from the media is filtered, including wiki. For example, read the wiki about Detroit and it describes it as a normal city. People frequently withhold information.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 29 21:39:00 2012 No.2446945 >>2446940 so you've spent a lot of time in detroit then?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 29 21:45:00 2012 No.2446966 >>2446870 It's sort of a theme that's not directly present in the book, but Big Brother has to go to an incredibly far extend to control the people.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 29 21:59:00 2012 No.2447025 >>2446815 'We' was just about as depressing. Not as well-written either, but that could have been due to the translation. Dystopia fiction which ends with the system smashed and people running free seems unrealistic, but that's just me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 29 22:12:00 2012 No.2447054 >>2446937 I don't necessarily argee with a brave new world. I just think people made life better and then didn't know what to do with their lives.

Anonymous Wed Feb 29 22:13:00 2012 No.2447055

>>2446911
Well, both are equally relevant. Just because we have an abundance information doesn't mean the government isn't censoring information it doesn't want the population to know about. And of course you'll never get a large enough public response to combat it because most people are preoccupied with their base pleasure-led lives.

I'd say we live in world that has incorporate aspects of both of the novels into one.

>Brave New World was better written
I imagine Twilight is better written than 1984 according to /lit/. People here seem to hate on Orwell a lot. He's a great writer. Brave New World is just more accessible.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 1 08:35:15 2012 No.2448019 >>2447055 Being a jew-lover discredits your whole writing career. /thread

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 1 11:22:15 2012 No.2448172 >>2446936 Orwell was a communist. He belonged to a labor party or two from my understanding. This book was out of criticism of Stalinism though. Communism =/= Stalinism

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 1 11:27:15 2012 No.2448178 What was Orwell's best book? I'm partial to 'Homage to Catalonia'.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 1 11:30:14 2012 No.2448182 >>2448178 Wigan Pier is very good.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 1 11:42:14 2012 No.2448190 >>2448178 Ive only read 1984 and animal farm Animal farm was the best

Anonymous Thu Mar 1 13:29:14 2012 No.2448289

I really can't get into this book. I read the first twenty pages and it's literally him describing a hallway with great depth, and then describing how sad of a life it is with incredibly detail.

I don't care how drab the hallway is and how windy it is, nor do I care about how much you drink.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 1 13:36:15 2012 No.2448295 >>2448289 keep reading it gets better

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 1 13:36:15 2012 No.2448296 >>2448172 >>2448172 Wow, you do know that Orwell supported Franco and the fascists during the Spanish civil war?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 1 13:41:15 2012 No.2448301 File: 981 KB, 959x812, 1315061494728.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2448172 >Orwell was a communist. Stop posting you ignorant shithead.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 1 13:43:14 2012 No.2448303 >>2448296 I'm going to assume you just didn't read Homage to Catalonia. Cause wow that's just wrong.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 1 13:46:15 2012 No.2448310 File: 15 KB, 240x333, 240px-GeoreOrwell.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2448178 They're all great except maybe a clergymans daughter and keep the aspidistras flying, but it's his essays which are really amazing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 1 13:47:14 2012 No.2448313 >>2448172 Orwell was a democratic socialist, however flirted with communism and spoke highly of Anarchist Catalonia.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 1 13:52:14 2012 No.2448318 >>2448296 >Wow, you do know that Orwell supported Franco and the fascists during the Spanish civil war? yes, so much so that he fought on the republican side in the war. he even wrote a book about you moron.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 1 14:05:15 2012 No.2448334 >>2448296 That shitposter here. Sorry guys, I remebered it wrong.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 1 14:30:15 2012 No.2448396 >>2448334 Holy shit, how could you get that fixed up? Orwell was in the POUM and highly sympathetic to the CNT/FAI

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 1 14:48:14 2012 No.2448434 >>2448396 Why do commies like acronyms so much?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 1 14:52:14 2012 No.2448445 >>2448434 CNT/FAI were Anarchists. Also, what sort of question is that? Probably one of the least intelligent things I've read all day, and that's saying a lot as I was reading sociology earlier.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 1 14:55:14 2012 No.2448455 >>2448445 Anarchists and communists are not mutually exclusive.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 1 14:56:14 2012 No.2448456 >>2448455 I know, I'm a fan of Kropotkin myself. I just assumed you were a pleb and thought that communism = USSR.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 1 15:03:14 2012 No.2448472 >>2448434 NASA is communism IN SPACE

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 1 15:06:15 2012 No.2448482 >>2448472 Nation Anarchist and Socialist Aerodrome

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 1 15:07:14 2012 No.2448488 >>2448482 It does explain why they want to go to the RED PLANET so much.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 1 15:19:14 2012 No.2448514 Politics is not a BANAna

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