/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.2429263]

Just got done with the Wedding in A Storm of Swords.... wow.....

Does this guy ever let any of his characters have a good day?

Don't be specific... but just wondering yes or no.

[Anonymous No.2429277]

which wedding?

[Anonymous No.2429282]

>>2429277

Edmure and the Frey.. where the Frey's turned and slaughtered everyone included Robb and Catelyn.

[Anonymous No.2429283]

and I think Jon had a good couple of days with ygritte

[Anonymous No.2429315]

Is there a good starting point for George R.R. Martin?

[Anonymous No.2429325]

>>2429315
the first book in a song of Ice and fire: Game of thrones

[Anonymous No.2429386]

>>2429282

>Edmure and the Frey.. where the Frey's turned and slaughtered everyone included Robb and Catelyn.
>slaughtered everyone included Robb
>everyone included Robb
>included

[Anonymous No.2429483]

>don't be specific
(no spoilers thank-you-very-much)

>Edmure and the Frey...where the Frey's turned and slaughtered everyone included Robb and Catelyn.

[Anonymous No.2429939]

any day tyrion gets to be with shae is a good day for him.

[Anonymous No.2429948]

>>2429263

[Anonymous No.2429949]

[Anonymous No.2429951]

[Truman Capote !!cO9KVBDtkqQ No.2429960]

>>2429951

why were the painters of the 20th century so commonly disgusting human beings?

Why were the writers all so fucking heroic?

[Anonymous No.2429962]

>>2429960

Most of those are photographs.

[Anonymous No.2429967]

>>2429960
Because the writers had time between their work to clean up and have their photo taken, while the painters tended to live as they worked, never leaving their studios far behind?

[Anonymous No.2429975]

>>2429949
Schopenhauer was a bitter fool that ultimately wasted his life on being bitter.
Real readers take in the trash with the genius, for how are you ever going to learn which is which if not by examining and learning from the failure of others.

[Anonymous No.2429981]

>>2429949
lol, and all those books sucked.
oh i luv beowulf and homer because they are so interesting. oh wait, they are boring as fuck. song of ice and fire i could not put down. any of those other books i would only read if i was forced too.

[Anonymous No.2429993]

Been there done that OP. Finish the book, just fucking don't stop before you get something ruined.

[Truman Capote !!cO9KVBDtkqQ No.2429995]

>>2429962
>>2429967

I wasn't talking about how they looked.

Picasso was an avid supporter of stalin's russia, joined the communist party and accepted the stalin peace prize even after the purging of intellectuals

Dali was a proto-fascist, narcissistic weirdo who personally admired Franco and Ceausescu.

both abandoned their country and paris to fascism, remaining 'apolitical' pacificists which everyone knows is a pro-fascist, cowardly stance.

Meanwhile orwell, hemingway, camus, owen and wittgenstein saw what was really important and did everything they could.

[Anonymous No.2430002]

>>2429995
>Dali was a proto-fascist, narcissistic weirdo who personally admired Franco and Ceausescu.
Maybe narcissistic weirdo, though I can't see how you could argue the other two.

[Truman Capote !!cO9KVBDtkqQ No.2430010]

>>2430002

his personal affiliation with the franco regime is well documented, and he wrote a letter praising Ceausescu and his lethal regime.

as for being a proto-fascist, just look at his work. it's all about chivalry, royalty and holy authority. Just look at his fucking signature.

[Anonymous No.2430032]

>>2429995
Almost all of the modernists were interested in -if not fascinated with- fascism, even if it was just the aesthetics that intrigued them in the case of the French writer whose name escapes me.

Especially Gertrude Stein, the cunt. And Ezra Pound.

>pic is H.D., who Pound pounded.

[Anonymous No.2430035]

talking about shitty authors, Truman Capote. It's so funny that some fucking loser tripfaggot would present themselves over the internet with such a faggy name.

[Anonymous No.2430038]

fascism/totalitarianism is a modernism

i mean, totalitarianism is certainly a distinctly modern thing, and both fascism and totalitarianism have elements which strongly appeal to modernists. there's a connection there. a professor i had argues that totalitarianism is essentially modernism applied to politics & its an interesting idea

[Anonymous No.2430057]

>>2430010
Dali supported Franco, but no one believes he "admired" him. Dali's has been thought of as a selfish psychopath, yes, and so would have supported Spanish fascism for his own ends.

Also, you could argue him a fascist, but not a proto fascist (whatever that means), although your arguments for such seem to indicate a complete disconnection from any source material.

[Truman Capote !!cO9KVBDtkqQ No.2430072]

>>2430032

yeah but it seem like artists are too flighty and hoity-toity to actually step down from their painting stool and make ethical value judgements on their subjects.

too interested in apolitical weirdness that they let the vacuum be filled with extremist bullshit, and they were too wrapped up in the abstract ideology to realise people were suffering.

i'm really interested in this shit.

[Truman Capote !!cO9KVBDtkqQ No.2430086]

>>2430057

Admired him enough to send him several telegrams, some even praising him for murdering prisoners, enough to meet him personally and enough to paint his daughter.

>hurr durr source
http://www.counterpunch.org/2003/12/06/salvador-dali-fascist/

[Anonymous No.2430106]

>>2430072
>yeah but it seem like artists are too flighty and hoity-toity to actually step down from their painting stool and make ethical value judgements on their subjects.
Eh? Are you getting this shit through hearsay or something? Breton was pissed off with Dali for doing exactly that. If you look at their correspondence (where Breton accuses Dali of defending Hitler, and Dali replies he has never been Hitlerian) Dali carefully explains his Hitlerian Wetnurse (where the baby Hitler has sucked this now physically unstable surrogate dry).

[Truman Capote !!cO9KVBDtkqQ No.2430117]

>>2430106

but Andre Breton was a writer, i'm talking about painters here.

And may have denied being a 'hitlerian' but his refusal to denounce fascism on the auspices that surrealism shouldn't be political is exactly the sort of bullshit i'm talking about.