/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.24254789]

What explains the psychology of the loverboy? The sensitive young man that can't help but chase love in order to find life bearable?
You see this in White Nights and Turgenev's First Love, and also Young Werther

[Anonymous No.24254815]

>noun. loverboy m (plural loverboys, diminutive loverboytje n): a pimp who pretends to be in love with a girl or young woman and makes her dependent on him in order to force her into prostitution
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[Anonymous No.24254819]

>>24254815
anon learns that dictionaries quickly become outdated

[Anonymous No.24254820]

>>24254815
Language tends to evolve over time, anon

[Anonymous No.24254824]

>>24254815
Whoa for real?

[Anonymous No.24254827]

>>24254789
It can't be helped, yearning for a woman who can't be reached creates the most profound suffering to fuel the most profound art

[Anonymous No.24254854]

>>24254815
We don't speak nigger here

[Anonymous No.24254865]

>>24254827
No, I'm a stemfag and I still do this. I think it's just retarded self-indulgence that keeps you from actually connecting with women.

[Anonymous No.24254912]

>>24254789
Is it bad if the chasing love part is more attractive than actually getting it? I purposefully sabotage and fuck over relationships the moment I see the girl show too much interest in me (like sending me good morning texts) and I feel disgusted at the thought of a bimbo parading me around. I also don't wish to be but a slavey sub, I want the affection to be sent in small crumbs just a little bit every time to make me beg and cave my head against the wall for more. The thrill of it is way better than the actual experience of "love" once I got around to it. I've been called a fuckboy before but I feel this is because of the tatoos rather than my attitude.

[Anonymous No.24254966]

>>24254912
>good morning texts
are you indian?

[Anonymous No.24254969]

>>24254966
Brazilian, woman here have some REALLY low standarts and get desperate over the smallest bit of genuine affection Jesus fucking Christ

[Anonymous No.24255006]

>>24254969
They're just like me...

[Anonymous No.24255017]

Mother Nature hypnotising us to make babies. Extrasensory signals from the other universe, telling us that the foid in front of us has dna compatiable with ours, to create child of certain quality and destiny
Much of this however is muddled in fake and gay modern world

[Anonymous No.24255031]

>>24254815
He's an entrepreneur!

[Anonymous No.24255122]

>>24254789
If I see the phrase "sensitive young man" used one more time, I think I'm going to scream.

[Anonymous No.24255124]

>>24254789
jungian archetypes probably

[Anonymous No.24255334]

>>24255122
Why are you so sensitive against that subject?

[Anonymous No.24255356]

It’s just another surrogate activity.

[Anonymous No.24255362]

>>24254819
>>24254820
we're both trans, btw.

[Anonymous No.24255365]

>>24254865
define "actually connecting with women"

[Anonymous No.24255375]

>>24254789
i don't fucking know, i just don't fucking know

[Anonymous No.24255703]

>>24255356
I don't think Uncle Ted would've said that pursuing a mate is a surrogate activity...

[Anonymous No.24256240]

>>24255703
Muh perfect love is. It's just extreme narcissism.

[Anonymous No.24256269]

>>24254789
Men need a ritual introduction to manhood. In our society women provide men's initiation into manhood and this mentally fucks men up.

[Anonymous No.24256409]

I think something in my brain snapped because I started reading romance fiction. I used to be too ashamed to buy the books or take them out of a library but I bought a Kindle so all good

[Anonymous No.24256440]

>>24254789
My experience with this IRL is so ludicrous that people wouldn't even believe me if I explained everything that happened and how it started with me talking with a girl about White Nights just for her to do the exact same shit to me but while not even having another boyfriend or anything, just vague self-pitying comments about not being capable of love and not trusting my feelings because she's "unworthy" despite how long she kept inviting my attention. I never want to read a word of Dostoevsky again just because of this. I now completely understand why Napoleon was so obsessed with The Sorrows of Young Werther

[Anonymous No.24256442]

>>24256409
I really hope you are at least female and 19 years old if you took the time to read all this dogshit

[Anonymous No.24256453]

>>24256442
I'm a guy in my 30s

[Anonymous No.24256473]

>>24256453
What do you like about them?

[Anonymous No.24256477]

>>24254912
Tattoos always have been and always will be for
>whores
>brainlets
>faggots
Sorry retards, no refunds.
>it's a tribute!
If something is worth remembering, you don't need to put it on your body.
>it's a pussy magnet!
Imagine wanting the kind of sleazy woman who would get or like a tattoo. Disgusting.
>they start a conversation!
Okay. You talked about a doodle, lmao. Get a fucking hobby, maybe you would be able to have a conversation without drawing on yourself permanently.
Tattoos are simply attention seeking. That's why women have them, that's why weak men get them. It's simply pathetic in the best case. Tattoo havers, tattoo wanters, and tattoo defenders are plainly wrong.

This is an ink-free board.

[Anonymous No.24256485]

>>24254969
Brazilian women are faker than the Shopee clothes they wear. They lovebomb you like the craziest bpd hoe right off the bat and treat you like trash after the first woman moment they have. The state of the average brazilian guy in a long term relationship is some sad shit, like a squirming bug in a venus flytrap. Dating a brazilian woman is a humiliation ritual, the bunda is just a trick. Autistic brazilian women are based tho, but good luck finding one.

[Anonymous No.24256499]

>>24256473
They're fun, easy, and always end happily. I can project onto the guy and feel like the woman is loving me by proxy. Some of them are double POV, and they capture the male lead well.

[Anonymous No.24256505]

>>24255365
When you do that miserable pining over her shit, you're purposefully deepening your own love for a fantastical version, an avatar of a woman you'll never have, most likely because of your own issues and being uncomfortable with intimacy, with interacting with the actual person. You'd rather have a romantic interest you can play with in your head as that's what you've been used to most of your life and it's much safer (plus a real woman has imperfections and 'weirdness' that may not align with your ideal image). Hence why like that anon mentions, these men run away when it looks like she's starting to show interest in you. You don't really want to know the real her, you just need a plausible enough person to create your fantasy.

[Anonymous No.24256540]

>>24256485
They're also starved for affection and will drive you crazy texting you a gazillion times a day, acting like the world is ending at least a couple times a month and calling you crying at like one am on a weekday so you've to spend the next hour or so calming her down over her latest emotional rollercoaster.

[Anonymous No.24256675]

>>24254789
Freud wrote some things on obsessional neurosis. Supposedly the timidity and sensitivity is a weakness in regards to desire and taking what you want in life, related to an unresolved oedipal stance against the father figure/function that possess the woman. It's a fun theory

[Anonymous No.24256684]

>>24254969
Brazilian women love the BBC

[Anonymous No.24256961]

>>24254789
I think it probably has something to with early trauma. Nervous system dysregulation and being uncomfortable in the body means libido becomes a function of idealizations and fantasy life instead of the body and real relationships. The lover boy hasn't differentiated his subjective life with the objective world, so he conflates his idealization with his love-interest, which never ends well, the so called "hopeless romantic". Lover boy needs to understand that women aren't goddess or the Jungian anima, just humans who piss, shit, get things wrong, and who want to fuck, i.e., be related to on the physical level.

[Anonymous No.24256969]

>>24254789
I think it's a right of passage for bookish/sensitive guys to confuse fantasy with reality and then get their heart stomped on by a girl because of it.

[Anonymous No.24256974]

>>24256505
Very true. My high-school crush, of all girls, asked for me number one day I just ran away from her. I remember her saying "what the fuck" while I was running. later that night I fantasized about being with her. Eventually got therapy for it in my early 20s and stopped self-sabotaging like that but yeah, in essence it's just hiding in fantasy life because reality is too threatening, unpredictable, etc.

[Anonymous No.24257074]

>>24256969
And then you end up in a cycle of largely unsatisfying relationships that you keep fucking up

[Anonymous No.24257097]

>>24254789
I can't help but become driven and motivated when I'm hopelessly in love. Usually young men would devote themselves to worship via an ideology, a religion, or something material like their job. It just so happens that I find meaning in this hopeless idealisation of love.
I used to venerate love and sex as a "defiant act of creation, a middle finger pointed toward the world's inherent state of decay", whatever that means. Of course now I know better not to love too deeply. It's unbecoming.


>>24256240
It becomes an act of idolatry, just as worshipping anything material ends up being idolatry. My best guess is that it's something instinctual. The loverboy yearns to disappear into the womb of whichever woman he falls in love with. He misses the time when his self was nonexistent, and he was entirely dependent on his mother. The burden of selfhood in a meaningless world is too great, so he seeks to erase his agency by surrendering himself to another person, lifting them as a goddess. A manifestation of the Freudian death drive/oceanic feeling maybe?

[Anonymous No.24257117]

>>24254789
I like the Rust quote from true detective season one, "Men, women. It's not supposed to work except to make kids". Guy was a edgy faggot but he was right about that. One of the painful things you realize as you get older. We're supposed to fuck and have kids. The soulmate shit is something you need to grow out of ASAP because it's a one way ticket to the rope.

[Anonymous No.24257135]

just a stage in life's way. as an adult it is cringe. when i was younger women possessed an attraction that did not rightly belong to them. as one experiences women one quickly sees the folly of trusting a person with one's hopes, in no different a manner than when one realizes their parents were just regular people trying to make do with what they had. they lose their ethereal beauty but gain true beauty in eternity by one's own inwardness. there does not seem to be much to say about the young lover other than youthful hopes that are to give way to adult principles, perhaps with some evolutionary motive to quickly socialize the youth and give them the tools to select and win over mates. a necessary stupidity.
of course, one on this board knows only too well the result of not going through these stages correctly. for those who fail: a premature hatred of women that stems from one's hatred of themselves. those who succeed too much end up viewing women as objects and later in life act surprised that they act like objects, i.e. they only find what they look for. the well-adjusted youth is thankful for his teenage romances and moves on to find the woman best suited him, without either the bitterness of failure or the emptiness of success, but rather the practice of failing correctly, as all human relationships are an exercise in failure.

[Anonymous No.24257136]

>>24256477
Based

[Anonymous No.24257191]

>>24254865
>>24256505
>liking real women contra waifu idols
unironically gay

[Anonymous No.24257248]

>>24254789
>What explains the psychology of the loverboy? The sensitive young man that can't help but chase love in order to find life bearable?
A.
if all he does is chasing then he probably has a neural disease or a personality distortion (including category 2. & 3. from below)

B.
but if chasing love does not take precedence over everything else, there are three possible cases that describe the person who does this:
1. he still remembers echoes of the time before he was incarnated; he spent time with his heavenly counterpart and he longs to be reunited
2. he remembered the echoes I mentioned, but those echoes were smothered by his parents or teachers or whatever (communism, nationalism, you name it)... now those echoes lie dead, the soul or inner child or whatever you call it was killed out of him
3. he never had anything to remember, so he is practically a machine (robot) who juggles words

almost everybody who is not straight white heterosexual males falls into category 2. or 3.... e.g. if a child was adopted (abused) by homosexuals during his childhood fits into category 2.

it's obvious and self-evident that the vast majority of males are homosexual (i.e. category 2. or 3.) even if they didn't have a homosexual experience in their lives and live a happy life, with a wife and children... yet what defines them is the following: since they don't fit into category 1., for them women represents something to scam, to extract money, valuables, land etc. from... so they spend their time chasing women all their lives not because of hope but because what this guy said >>24254815

btw regarding females: almost all women fall into category 3., with the few exceptions falling into 2.; your chances of finding a category 1. female are less than winning the lottery and even then romance only lasts for a while...

of course things like exporting technology (printing presses, trains, refrigerators, cars, TV, internet, tik tok) to non-European non-Western countries made things exponentially worse... not to mention granting rights to women... and public education is probably the root of all evil... these are the places where we have to start rolling back the changes

[Anonymous No.24257298]

>>24256505
Omg

[Anonymous No.24257300]

>>24256961
Nailed it I think

[Anonymous No.24257694]

>>24257248
chat tf is this nibba jabbering about

[Anonymous No.24257772]

>>24257694
He thinks he'd be a member of the elite if the current social order were to be overthrown, when in truth he'd either be dead or digging latrines while malnourished

[Anonymous No.24258004]

>>24257772
>non-whites not polluting the planet means that normal people need to go to war
nah, it's enough if normal people stop feeding the rabid dogs that constantly bite their hands

[Anonymous No.24258108]

>>24256269
Interesting

[Anonymous No.24258121]

>>24256269
>In our society
what society is that? india with a multi-millennial tradition of male homosexuality? they were basically mass-producing category 2 and category 3 males, that's why they never attained the level of building cities... just gigantic towns where people literally shit in the middle of the street

[Anonymous No.24258385]

love it when a schizo cooks up a bizarre idiosyncratic categorization system then references it like anyone has any idea what the fuck he's talking about. literally a symptom of autism

[Anonymous No.24259253]

>>24256684
Brazilians are already black, monkey boy, you are the common man there.

[Anonymous No.24259267]

>>24259253
>Brazilians are already black,
you should like someone who has never left your mama's basement

[Anonymous No.24259660]

Girl, you like The Smiths?

[Anonymous No.24260793]

>>24254789
>chase bargain bin MEW
gay

[Anonymous No.24260808]

>>24256485
Not too far off from my accounts but im also BPD and will lovebomb with meaningless BS I have said to 7 other woman but she still thinks they make me "different"
They are actually quite powerless and naive from my experience specially the younger ones.
>>24256477
Im a whore and a faggot but please prey im quite proud of my intelligence. Yes they are for attention seekers and yes I like ruining myself. I also love adorning myself in expensive jewels or piercings with expensive jews attached to them or rings and so on even if I look like a turbofag. Just love shiny shit. But yeah tatoos are fucking lame and since I plan a statesman career im gonna drip them off later.

[Anonymous No.24260824]

>>24260808
>>24257248
Ok what the fuck im A and 3 at the same time it's so over

[Anonymous No.24260830]

>>24257097
Why have you changed your mind? What made you turn your back on love as an absolute?

[Anonymous No.24260838]

>>24254789
k

[Anonymous No.24260883]

>>24260824
as long as you don't exploit it, the Lord may grant you a gift
if you want it
pic unrelated

[Anonymous No.24261096]

>>24254789
Pic rel

[Anonymous No.24261117]

>>24261096
>disgusting girl cope
if there is anything worse than an ugly girl it's a disgusting one

[Anonymous No.24261121]

>>24261096
Love is a blissful state tho and to find your other half and procreate is the ultimate and evolutionary goal of every living being.

[Anonymous No.24261147]

>>24261121
What if I transmit memes rather than genes: being a priest or a school teacher would make more sense.
What if I transmit my sibling's genes with greater efficacy by being an engaged uncle?

Jesus christ mate.

[Anonymous No.24261156]

>>24261147
What kind of argument are you even trying to make? The first wouldn't even pass on your genes and anyone with your mindset wouldn't either, so you're a genetic deadend. The second results in Habsburg-style deficiencies as you well know.

[Anonymous No.24261182]

>>24261147
/x/ is that way schizo

[Anonymous No.24261605]

>>24254815
>diminutive loverboytje
This is obviously not English. Classic example of a pseudo-anglicism

[Anonymous No.24261733]

>>24254789
Why his shoulders so narrow and his neck so long?

[Anonymous No.24261766]

>>24254789
>The sensitive young man that can't help but chase love in order to find life bearable?
this is everyone, im afraid. nobody can live without love unless youre damaged somehow, ive found in my experience. you think youre so different from women but thats only your socialization and education.

[Anonymous No.24261950]

>>24256505
>When you do that miserable pining over her shit, you're purposefully deepening your own love for a fantastical version
I did a full face contraction, sucked-on-a-lemon cringe reading this.

[Anonymous No.24262004]

>>24261950
You should be sucking on my balls instead.

[Anonymous No.24262180]

>>24254827
When I think of "profound suffering" I think of picrel, not getting rejected lol. You fag.

[Anonymous No.24262188]

>>24262180
Physical pain is the opposite of profound, it's very surface-level.

[Anonymous No.24262322]

>>24261156
>The first wouldn't even pass on your genes
He did say memes rather than genes, implying he molests children or otherwise heavily influences their lives. Repugnant idea.

[Anonymous No.24262325]

>>24261605
Yeah it's dutch