/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.24170541]

I feel like at 29 I have no new experiences left to life. I’ve traveled a good bit, I’m professionally successful to the highest degree that I value, and I’ve been fairly well read. Is there any reason NOT to commit suicide other than just “muh family”

[Anonymous No.24170544]

yeah i mean no one said life was supposed to be interesting, just get into hedonism like everyone else. maybe they were smarter than you all along.

[Anonymous No.24170552]

Are you content with the state of the world?

[Anonymous No.24170557]

>>24170541
>I have no new experiences left to life
you're trying to tell us that you've experienced literally anything and everything that you've ever cared to? there is not a single experience in all of existence that you think you'd maybe want to try out other than putting a bullet through your skull?

[Anonymous No.24170558]

You are just going to be stuck in an eternal cycle of always killing yourself in the end. Might as well try to improve yourself or contribute to something while you still have the time, because you WILL be here again and suicide is no escape from it, it will only start the cycle again.

[Anonymous No.24170561]

>>24170541
The irony is to old folks, 29 is still a stupid child. There’s lots you haven’t really experienced in life even if it doesn’t appear so. Think about at age 13. I am sure you already thought you had things sorted out even as a kid. That is how you will always feel.

[Anonymous No.24170566]

>>24170557
I’m having trouble with it
>>24170552
No, but I’m smart enough to know nothing will change and nothing has changed since the beginning of it all

[Anonymous No.24170568]

>>24170557
living for new experiences is just hedonism, you want op to become a "teehee i love to travel!" instathot?

[Anonymous No.24170576]

>>24170541
You won't do it, we know you won't do it, you know you won't do it so... why ask?

[Anonymous No.24170578]

>>24170576
What makes you think all of that

[Anonymous No.24170581]

>>24170568
>living for new experiences is just hedonism
if that's true then living in general is just hedonism. if he doesn't want to travel he can do other things. or shoot himself. up to him. those are the options he's laid out for himself.
>try something new
>shoot self
besides you can always shoot yourself later. it's gonna be the last the thing you do anyway, so you might as well do other stuff first.

[Anonymous No.24170586]

>>24170566
What qualifies as change to you? Are you saying humankind is inherently hopeless when it comes to transcending baser impulses?

If you're as smart as you think, you'll know you're copping out.

[Anonymous No.24170590]

>>24170541
No, people are like plants and don’t have any reason to live or not to live. It’s all just a natural process that can be either extremely good or extremely bad depending on the circumstances of your life. Some commit suicide, others don’t. There’s nothing wrong with either choice, but ultimately I think it’s a matter of unconscious destiny whether someone kills themselves rather than any personal decision.

[Anonymous No.24170591]

>>24170586
>Are you saying humankind is inherently hopeless when it comes to transcending baser impulses?
I would think that’s obvious and has been obvious over time.

[Anonymous No.24170592]

>>24170591
Cope.

[Anonymous No.24170598]

>>24170592
I guess it’s either cope or delusion

[Anonymous No.24170627]

>>24170541
>at 29 I have no new experiences left to life.
whut? get a life you fucking retard

[Anonymous No.24170630]

>>24170541
>Fairly well-read
Sounds like you still have some more reading to do

[Anonymous No.24170632]

>>24170627
Tell me what I’m missing

[Anonymous No.24170635]

>>24170632
Obviously not a good life if you don’t think it’s worth living

[Anonymous No.24170638]

>>24170635
You didn’t answer my question

[Anonymous No.24170642]

>>24170638
Because it’s a you problem that you have to figure out yourself

[Anonymous No.24170653]

>>24170630
Reading wouldn’t change worldview

[Anonymous No.24171219]

>>24170541
>I’ve been fairly well read.
i hope you are ESL. otherwise you are not well-read. also this thread is not /lit

[Anonymous No.24171433]

>>24170561
i just don't see what else new is left to experience

[Anonymous No.24171444]

>>24170541
get married. it's different life. make sure to marry a right one.

[Anonymous No.24171449]

>>24171444
>make sure to marry a right one.
that's the problem
i guess i'd have to live in some ritzy area to find someone well read and worth being with

[Anonymous No.24171492]

not /lit/
kys

[Anonymous No.24171636]

>>24170541
If you're an atheist, literally hedonism is the only answer. Search for God, OP.

[Anonymous No.24171645]

>>24170541
Have you had kids? If your goal is simply to experience everything then that's an obvious set of experiences that most people have and that you're probably missing,

literature

[Anonymous No.24171657]

>>24170541
Isn't experience 1/5 of life? It's like concluding you're done after your eyeballs have seen most objects

[Anonymous No.24171679]

>>24170541
You just lack vision anon. You're just going to kill yourself without even trying to seize power in a violent coup? Without crimemaxxing to become a multi-millionaire by thirty? Not even going to become a great artist or visionary writer?

You're a pussy, and probably depressed. Take some vitamin D or something.

[Anonymous No.24171694]

>>24170558
Came here to say this.
Also, this is offtopic. Take your depressive whining to /adv/

[Anonymous No.24171707]

>>24171433
Family? Children? Helping others? experiencing a double rainbow? Having a good time with friends? reading in the sun? drinking tea? Life has many enjoyable things.

Is life a constant checklist for you? You seem burned out by success, but instead of resting on what you call "professionally successful" you are drained and existence is dreadful for you.

When I went to turkey, there was this guy in Ayvalik that stomped on coffee beans in a stone stove for 8 hours a day, every day. He was the happiest and fittest guy I've met there. Why can he be happy by just stomping coffee beans with a wooden club, but you choose to be unhappy with everything by your hands?

Life isn't a checklist of things to experience. Have you ever tried actually enjoying life? My existence has been fairly rough and I worked hard to be where I am right now. I'm also very successful, married and so on. But do you know what I enjoy the most at the moment? Not the fact that I'm working for the biggest company on the planet in the most prestigious department, no. I enjoy just taking a walk and reading a book while the sun is warming my skin. Why can't you too? The most simple things can make life enjoyable.

If I could I would just read every day and take a walk in the sun. I never get bored by it. This alone would make me live my life till I die of old age

[Anonymous No.24171710]

semi-related question:

Would Sysiphus be reaching the top with the boulder everytime and then the boulder rolled down, or did he just tried to reach the top, but failed every attempt because the boulder rolled down before that?

[Anonymous No.24171775]

>>24171707
What is this? Reddit?

[Anonymous No.24171790]

>>24171710
He would reach the top and then have the boulder reset itself to it's starting position at the bottom.

The gods were essentially hoping to reinforce the idea that all of Sisyphus's efforts in life were futile as his death (and the will of the Gods) are uncontestable despite his most laborous efforts.
Thus the rock whenever it reaches it's destination will always tumble down without contest.

For Camus the gods would only be successful in torturing sisyphus (intellectually) if he were to allow himself the linger for a nostalgia of anything other than his condition or absurdly hoping for some sort of reprive. In order to gain the capacity for happiness Sisyphus must disregard the craving for his existence being anything other than what it is both physically and spiritually.
Sisyphus still suffers immensely, it would be impossible for him not to do so, all that changes is that he gains the capacity to be content with the limits of his existence by reorienting his approach.

[Anonymous No.24171806]

>>24170541
>I feel like I have no new experiences
Here is your problem. You absolutely haven’t experienced all there is. You are probably too cowardly or lazy to do extreme shit.

Have you tried ecstasy? Fucked two people at once? Have you had children? Have you scuba dived? Spent the night in jail? Tried collecting something you think is cool (rocks, old video games, etc)
Have you run a marathon yet? Seen the top of Everest?

Or just kill yourself, and leave a note to “ur family” and tell them
How bored you were.

[Anonymous No.24171811]

>>24171806
What an incredibly faggy and sheltered idea of experiences.

[Anonymous No.24171816]

>>24171811
kek this

[Anonymous No.24171823]

>>24171811
I killed a person two years ago and fucked five ladyboys this morning. What have you done, loser?

Take out the trash and waste your parents' food resources in their basement? Lower your tone of voice when you talk to me.

[Anonymous No.24171839]

>>24171775
Nice cope

[Anonymous No.24171919]

creating a family is the obvious thing to do retard

[Anonymous No.24171937]

>>24171806
you must be a pain in the ass to be around with

[Anonymous No.24171941]

The path proclaimed by the Buddha is known as Brahmacariya, or the higher religious life. Nothing else seems to have run so contrary to the essential spirit of brahmacariya as the violation of the virtue of celibacy. Buddha says that a monk who indulges in the pleasures of sex will fail in his mission. The reason for this seems to be that sexual relations will lead to children, family, and the ties of the world. More importantly, sexual inter-course will hinder the attainment of the higher spiritual states. The Buddhist scholar E. Conze says that sexual intercourse is apt to produce a certain calm and relaxation. Meditation and sexual intercourse have in common the goal and the force they use. "For the simple reason that one cannot use the same force twice, complete suppression of sexual behavior is indispensable to success in meditation''. On the practical level, a monk who indulged in such pleasures would bring the order into disrepute in the eyes of the
layman. He would be regarded as a chariot out of control. At first the disciples of the Buddha accepted his recommendations though there were offenders. One of the first offenders against the Buddha's extolling of celibacy was Sudinna who committed intercourse with his former wife. (It was therefore not a question of adultery.) We must note that the Suttavibhanga records that when Sudinna committed sexual intercourse the rule had not been promulgated on this point. It is stated that he did not know the consequences involved. This is unlikely, however, since after the act Sudinna is stricken with remorse and admits that he has done an evil deed. Further this offense contradicts the true spirit of renunciation which condemns the gratification of sensual desires. However, as Sudinna's was the first offense, he was declared
free of guilt and could not be punished. "Parajika I," therefore, which was laid down subsequently, does no more than determine the gravity of the offense and the consequent punishment it involves

[Anonymous No.24171943]

>>24170541
What world do you live in where jadedness is a valid motive for suicide? It's a far cry from it, people who are much worse than you struggled to do it. This is a shitpost.

[Anonymous No.24172027]

>>24171806
>Have you tried ecstasy? Fucked two people at once? Have you had children? Have you scuba dived? Spent the night in jail? Tried collecting something you think is cool (rocks, old video games, etc)
>Have you run a marathon yet? Seen the top of Everest?
This! So much this. My fellow chuds

[Anonymous No.24172146]

Today I went walking in my small town. When I jumped up the little bank onto the railroad there was a weird shape in the distance. It was an old man in a motor chair whose battery died, and he'd been stuck alone there for 30 minutes. I push him off the rocks onto the grass, but he's damn heavy and I'm already seeing stars. So another guy comes around, his neighbor, young guy with a chipped tooth and a bowl of diced fruit. One of those guys who's always looking 20 degrees away from you while you make eye contact, and he talks real slow. They spend 10 minutes chatting, and anyway the old man climbs off the chair so go charge the battery then bring it back. So we push it to the gazebo and it really fucks me. The fruit guy's asking if I do meth like everyone in this town, I say no, it's a bitch lighting up outside because the wind always puts the flame out so we do it inside, what do you do for fun? "Hanging out". Heh, good one. We get to the gazebo and I collapse on the post. My vision is a sky of fucked up stars. It calms down a bit, then I leave. When I get home there's this weird taste in my mouth. Maybe a tooth infection, who knows. I take a big shit, then nap for 30 minutes. There was a weird feeling afterward, like I'd experienced something "real".

Life has an endless amount of experiences for us, but we reject nearly all them, "No, you've given me the wrong thing" -- a bad waiter. True life only happens in Cape Cod, it's only in Neon Genesis Evangelion, it's only in The Sopranos, it's only on MDMA. Well, if that were life it would be a terrible thing. But if life were a random experience generating machine, it would be absolutely incredible, no? Yet there's a catch: You must embrace what happens. Because do you really know better than life? How could you, when people can't even agree with each other? And what is there to be afraid of... pain? Do we know what exactly pain is? Have you sat down and had a conversation with your pain before? It's not evil, it's just unwanted. Because I've had toothaches before, where it was like someone had their thumb on my molar and pressed down reeeeaaaaal hard. But that's just some pressure. The real pressure is the burden you put on yourself for trying to deny reality. "My tooth hurts, but it shouldn't!". That's real pain

[Anonymous No.24172180]

When the world was big people didn't have the means to live.
Now that people have the means the world has become so small.

[Anonymous No.24172258]

>>24170541
If you have to sin might as well go all the way in and experience everything you haven't.
Otherwise just go ahead and kill yourself, you're clearly being a retarded faggot.

[Anonymous No.24172344]

>>24171943
>people who are much worse than you struggled to do it
Not my problem

[Anonymous No.24172392]

>>24170541
>>24170557
>>24171707
gay

[Anonymous No.24172395]

>>24171806
>>24171941
>>24172146
>>24172180
ultra gay

[Anonymous No.24172396]

>>24172344
Then why are you still here? Do it.

[Anonymous No.24172430]

>>24172396
Ok

[Anonymous No.24172502]

There are enough things to experience to fill thousands of years of life. You are just bored, ignorant and closed minded

[Anonymous No.24172525]

>>24170541
You have nothing to just enjoy about life day to day? If I were in your position I would just immerse in my hobbies.

[Anonymous No.24172530]

>>24170541
give me your money and kill yourself

[Anonymous No.24172567]

>>24172530
Venmo?

[Anonymous No.24172578]

>>24170541
Okay but how many friends do you have? You might want to start working on that

[Anonymous No.24172629]

>>24170544
Life is supposed to be lived and that's what those people are doing.

Yeah, maybe in the end of the day the problem is on you. What a sad conclusion. What are you gonna do with that news?

[Anonymous No.24172674]

>>24171811
Provide something better or gtfo

[Anonymous No.24172680]

>>24170541
Take some psychedelics
Also occultism

[Anonymous No.24172681]

>>24170541
Give me all your money and possessions and live as homeless for a while

[Anonymous No.24172787]

>>24172680
Based and enlightened

[Anonymous No.24173525]

>>24171645
without getting into it, my job gives me an equivalent experience

[Anonymous No.24173527]

>>24171707
>Why can he be happy by just stomping coffee beans with a wooden club, but you choose to be unhappy with everything by your hands?
you don't know if he was legitimately permanently happy though
>I enjoy just taking a walk and reading a book while the sun is warming my skin. Why can't you too?
well, I guess because I don't have enough time to do so

[Anonymous No.24173614]

>>24170568
would rather be an instathot than whatever kind of faggot OP is

[Anonymous No.24173846]

>>24170541
You could have sex anon there's still a shot

[Anonymous No.24173895]

>>24170541
Have you tried not experiencing?

[Anonymous No.24173900]

>>24170558
>You are just going to be stuck in an eternal cycle of always killing yourself in the end.
Eternal recurrence is a nonsense concept, retard. How do "you" experience something over and over infinitely when there's no novel experience to differentiate the new experience from the last? Take your meds.

[Anonymous No.24173962]

>>24171679
With you there, both planning my coup and trying to be a great poet and psytrance producer. I'll fail at all but after my first serious GF, getting my dick wet every day, ever since I've only sought power and fame. The plurality of life recedes to only a few options when you think too much.
>>24170541
Get into politics. You're very young for a politician and it will give new experiences. If you're really stuck read Casanova and try to seduce a married woman. That's an fresh experience. I'm planning on seducing a blood relation, Byron style.

[Anonymous No.24173970]

>>24171433
you should not be wasteful. at least pull a luiggi like a super mario bro

[Anonymous No.24173972]

>>24170541
Just kill yourself, you faggot. Nobody cares.

[Anonymous No.24174021]

>>24170541
Stop smoking weed, faggot.

[Anonymous No.24174090]

>>24170541
Search more but there is a certain chance that this was it. You are just unlucky to realize this. I am in the same boat but there are still some things left for me.

[Anonymous No.24174096]

>>24173900
Eternal recurrence is a thought experiment and not to be taken literally. Just let the boulder roll down the mountain.

[Anonymous No.24174279]

>>24170541
try falling in love

[Anonymous No.24174565]

>>24173900
If your life experience haven't involved piercing the veil of past-life memories, to learn that you've been alive for an eternity, incarnating as one body after another, then you haven't even begun to live, and are little better than a child.

[Anonymous No.24174577]

>>24174565
>piercing the veil of past-life memories
i bet this "requires" psychedelics

[Anonymous No.24174585]

>>24174577
That might work, but I have no idea; it's not the path I took. Buddhists and Hindus use meditation to achieve that. I took the expressway.

[Anonymous No.24174601]

>>24174585
i did meditation and had a very revelatory experience something akin to when people talk about the "deep field" but I wouldn't say that it was legitimate. i think it was informed by my own past experiences in life, not anything truly fundamental or "real"

[Anonymous No.24174605]

>>24174585
>>24174601
sorry, "unified field" is what I meant

[Anonymous No.24174611]

>>24174601
all those psychedelic/meditative experiences are related to stuff you already believe
like if you believe in god you're 1000% more likely to see satan during a trip
or if you're a militant atheist and you hate god then you're likely to see god/satan too
but you're not gonna see fucking zoroaster or anything like that

[Anonymous No.24174622]

>>24174611
Clearing technology led me to recover memories that were most definitely NOT related to stuff I already believed. Much of it was extremely disturbing, and shook my worldview to its foundations. I sincerely doubt you have any meaningful experience with meditative practices.

[Anonymous No.24174637]

>>24174611
yes that's what I believe too

[Anonymous No.24174678]

>>24174622
honestly, the word "all" is wrong.
There are times in meditation where i've experienced stuff that it seemed completely impossible for my brain to have produced that.

for example, 2 weeks ago I sat on my bed and listened to this album, i put a timer on for 15 minutes, fully focused on the music, and did this 3-4 times. On the last time, i started seeing these incredible beasts and flowers from an alien dimension, resembling literally nothing I have ever seen before, and moving in a way unlike anything on earth does. Like my imagination simply cannot produce things on that level.

So I get what you mean. For me 90% of this stuff does relate to what I believe. But a minority of it almost defies explanation

[Anonymous No.24174695]

>>24170541
You sound like a tremendous fag. Maybe you should kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.24174825]

>>24174678
By chance, were the colors all wrong in this vision? Orange sky, purple felines, etc.?

[Anonymous No.24174956]

>>24174825
Yes but not in that way. Imagine the flowers from alice in wonderland, but dark green and red and unbelievably detailed. There was something reptilian about them, like when they moved it was like halfway between flowers growing and an animal moving. They seemed incredibly intelligent, as if they had super advanced nervous systems, because their movement was extremely coordinated and purposeful and each segment of their bodies flowed gracefully toward some purpose. Its movement was more complex and refined than any human or animal I've ever seen.

Unfortunately that is a very dumbed down/simplified version of what I saw. Its like if no one had ever seen a dog before, and you're the first person to see a dog. No matter how fucking crazy it is, you'd describe it to people and they just imagine a wolf and go oh okay cool I guess

[Kuzy, the accomplished writer of subliminality No.24175651]

>>24170541
You can't commit suicide until you read my book. Check Mate.

[Anonymous No.24175919]

Love yourself

[Anonymous No.24175930]

>>24175919
whenever some overweight chick is talking abt the importance of self-care i just assume they're talking about masturbation. hot chicks never seem to need self-care...

[Anonymous No.24176344]

>>24170558


if reincarnation is real, but you don't remember your past life, it effectively is not real.

For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. -kjv

[Anonymous No.24176350]

>>24174622
when we see a paranoid schizophrenic/targeted individual we do not say "damn they really were god in a past life because their delusions suggest it"
why should you delusions be any different?

[Anonymous No.24176396]

>>24173900
>when there's no novel experience to differentiate the new experience from the last?
The fuck does this even mean?

[Anonymous No.24176403]

>>24170541
Nah yea kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.24176446]

>Is there any reason NOT to commit suicide other than just “muh family”
you're gonna die anyway. unless you gain something you value more than life, suicide is not worth the effort
>>24171710
no matter the answer Sysiphus was a cunt who deserved it.

[Anonymous No.24176510]

>>24170566
unfortunately a lot has changed

[Anonymous No.24176602]

havent tried caverject yet nigga. Theres so much to do!

[Anonymous No.24176639]

>contemplate suicide because I'm momentarily uninspired of life and lack motivation
>"muh family"
This is some teenage level mentality OP, I can tell that there's plenty of things you haven't experienced and I think you'll never experience if you ended up pondering shit like this. You're blessed with life, do something with it.

[Anonymous No.24176715]

>>24170541
>I have no new experiences left to life.
>i uuhh...travelled and worked a job.....

anon what the fuck are you retarded? these are the most superficial experienced imaginable. you haven't even begun to live yet

[Anonymous No.24176763]

>>24170541
>I have no new experiences left to life. I’ve traveled a good bit, I’m professionally successful
what are you a fucking roastie girlboss finding herself? is that all you value in life?

[Anonymous No.24176808]

>>24170541
>29
You are babby. Soon you won't be so severe about everything. Acceptance of the world and your part in it will come. Then you'll want children.

[Anonymous No.24176817]

>>24171806
if a pile of sht could write, it would've write a post like this

[Anonymous No.24176844]

>>24170541
>Is there any reason NOT to commit suicide
You'll die

[Anonymous No.24176947]

>>24176344
Reincarnation is real if you kill yourself only to find yourself back in the same mess you thought you were leaving. Even worse, you have to repeat grade school.

[Anonymous No.24177048]

>>24176947
>you have to repeat grade school.
that would be a dream

[Anonymous No.24177052]

>>24177048
Are you serious?! Grade/high school was a nightmare for me. Nothing but mean-spirited bullying, directed at me, starting day one of kindergarten. And if you're on 4chan, I think that happened to you too.

[Anonymous No.24177257]

>>24174096
eternal recurrence was very literal as a cornerstone in nietzsche's metaphysics

[Anonymous No.24177319]

>>24177257
I am referring to the image of the demon presenting the thought of eternal recurrence to the reader. At least in the primary source I don't understand it as a physical cycle of time. Nietzsche even refers to this image as a thought. My interpretation is that if you fear this specific thought itself, whether it's true or not, you should strive to become the Übermensch and so on.

[Anonymous No.24177399]

>>24170541
You have too much food, money and success. When one has achieved all this much so early in life, the mind feels over-satiated and starts searching for 'muh new, fresh, thrilling experiences'.

[Anonymous No.24177998]

>>24176947
but you wont have any memory of it. You wont even be the same person.

[Anonymous No.24178023]

>>24170541
Your type tires me out to no end. 80 years out of billions to spend alive, and you mope around like faggots for your brief speck of time as a sentient being. Get a fucking grip, man. In reality, you're not smart enough or talented enough to be this misanthropic/nihilistic. Eat a fucking sandwich, have a dart, and do something with your life. Fucking had it with your lot.

[Anonymous No.24178264]

OP, keep in mind that life is likely to get worse not better. the best time to end your life is when you're happy. because there is no guarantee that you'll ever be this happy again.
take it from someone who had to learn this the hard way.
also, do us all a favor and take some trash out with you if you're willing.

[Anonymous No.24178349]

>>24170541
this is not a literature thread, it doesn't even try to pretend it is

[Anonymous No.24178361]

>>24170566
holy fedora tip

[Anonymous No.24178686]

>>24171645
holy fucking shit why people insist in creating new life to suffer?
>i suffer and it's all pointless, what do ?
>eureka! gonna bring another one into hell

[Anonymous No.24178784]

>>24178686
Because it alleviates my suffering. Same reason why i eat despite the fact that me eating causes suffering to some animal or plant somewhere.
Besides, life isn't all suffering for everyone. My suffering is uniquely bad, but I'm sure your suffering ain't that bad and my kid's won't be either. Whatever sufferings my child goes though will surely be less than the amount of suffering I alleviated by having one.
Either way it doesn't really matter because the only suffering I can experience is my own and therefore it's the only suffering that I can be exists and therefore matters.

[Anonymous No.24179582]

>>24178784
Your kid's suffering will be yours plus that of having a narcissistic father.
>the only suffering I can experience is my own
For normal people their loved ones' suffering adds to their own.