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>pleasure bad
>pain good
Are there any other books with similar outlooks?

>> No.24162101

Has no one here read this book?

>> No.24162161

>>24162101
I've read some of it and dropped after Joiwind's arc. Idk why people like it. Feels like some sort of cult phenomenon

>> No.24162201

>>24162161
You dropped it at tge very beginning.

>> No.24162235

>>24162201
Bro I've read a few chapters about her husband too. It was 1/3rd of the book. If a book didn't manage to make an impression up until that point, and tried to be deep and profound by representing various abstract philosophies through its characters without a gripping story, I'm dropping. I liked the adventurous concept, some of the bits about occult and the guy being the God of that planet and them calling his travel partner evil though

>> No.24162240

>>24162235
Not even close to 1/3. More like 20%

>> No.24162341

>>24161977
Schopenhauer

>> No.24163292

>>24162341
Schopenhauer says pain is good?

>> No.24163340

>>24161977
My diary desu

>> No.24163478

>>24162101
I finished it last month but outside of it feeling like a psychedelic Pilgrim's Progress I don't have much to say about it. The characters are mostly bizarre caricatures though interesting in their own right because of it (the monk who flings himself off the narrow ridge or the guy suspended in midair) and the ending confounds the average midwit such as myself. I had expected more of a pulpy Edgar Rice adventure ending in Maskull usurping the world's godhead but after the happenings in the first few chapters the tone noticeably shifted and I was especially caught offguard by how central of a motif the vitriolic relationship between men and women became and how women themselves were portrayed within it. I also laughed out loud in parts as Maskull started powertripping and giving barely any fucks towards the later part of the book. That being said I mostly enjoyed the exotic imagery and offbeat atmosphere which is what stuck with me after completing it moreso than anything else.

>> No.24163481

>>24161977
>what if this thing commonly associated with good was actually… LE BAD?
Don’t post again.

>> No.24163858

>>24163292
And pleasure bad

>> No.24164272

>>24163481
>NOOO DON'T THINK DIFFERENT
Kys jew

>> No.24164322

I never realized how much of a filter this book was.

>> No.24164337

>>24164322
Shut the fuck up, it's a shallow book

>> No.24164369

>>24161977
Just read the gnostic apocrypha.
>>24162235
You dropped it too early. It gets more and more metaphorical and zany across different philosophies and mysticism's, and the ending is an immense kick to it all.

>> No.24164407

>>24164337
That's what I thought before reading some of the posts ITT... now I am not so sure, perhaps depth is relative to current standards.

>> No.24164648

what the fuck was that ending about?

>> No.24164695

>>24163478
There is definitely something being said about the sexes. Women are shown to be self-sacrificing. But even in lichstorm, Haunte is attracted to Sullenbode even though the attraction is painful. But again, pain isn't exactly bad in this book. We seek women for pleasure, just as crystalman wants. Haunte seeks sullenbode through pain and this brings him closer to muspel. You know its presence because Crystalman has coated the light of muspel in pain.

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24164697

After reading this book, I have begun categorizing people into green corpuscles and white swirls

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24164738

>>24164697
Am I a green corpuscle or a white swirl?

>> No.24164808

>>24163858
Where?

>> No.24164973

>>24164808
Studies in Pessimism/On the Sufferings of the World