/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.24155060]

Why can't people just accept that psychology/psychiatry/psychoanalysis (self-knowledge, knowledge of others) is just a pure stream of watery undistilled crap only really adhered to by who think that their life is like a coherent unique narrative and manipulative psychopaths who want to control others?

[Anonymous No.24155077]

>>24155060
Psychoanalysis is brilliant. The problem is people are too dishonest with themselves and too retarded to understand what Freud was actually saying - that are base desires, esp. sexual desires, control us so much that it influences even our perception of what we think we want, even if it's not what we actually want.

Modern psychology is absolutely retarded because the very field requires some level of self-reflection and intellectual honesty, and you run into a problem with most female psychologists who are unable to do so.

[Anonymous No.24155081]

Psychiatry is just Pharma bullshit.

Cognitive Behavioral Theory is actually really good.

[Anonymous No.24155102]

>>24155077
It absolutely is not. It's just bullshit.
How can you tell that the ultimate cause behind some retarded desire or behavior or opinion of yours is because of some completely different and unrelated desire for sensual gratification? What does it even matter? Why don't you just stop being retarded?

It's also bullshit and makes everything it says suspect by introducing stuff like delusion and an unconscious (which for some reason you are not aware of by definition but you can still somehow become aware of it and other people can too because it exists in your mind without you being aware of it, which is retarded) because now you've effectively made all knowledge claims about yourself suspect. How do you know that you aren't actually just deluding yourself?

[Anonymous No.24155134]

>>24155102
Top 10 most retarded posts on /lit/.

[Anonymous No.24155170]

>>24155102
>How can you tell?
Basic human observation and introspection. Just look at the "Incel" problem - why have they formed a movement around that? Because deep down they want sexual and / or emotional connections with women, so they cope with that frustration by vilifying the cause of that frustration.

People are like this with all their belief systems. You can take a boomer and show him evidence until he's blue the face that it's nonsense for Evangelicals to give endless funding and support for Israel at any level, but the boomer will not intellectually budge. Why? Because that Evangelical American cultural identity gives him a sense of purpose, meaning, who he is, how he relates to people, even if false, so he represses that knowledge of its falsity and acts in ways that obviously aren't to his best interest.

>Why does it matter
Ever seen Twilight? Sexuality makes you do crazy things man, like quit school to fuck a vampire

>You've made all knowledge claims suspect
Absolutely retarded extrapolation. One can have sexual or food based motivations to study rocks, it doesn't change one's empirical data of the rocks.

[Anonymous No.24155343]

>X is total bullshit, no I won't post any proof
Jannies need to permaban every one of you faggots who make these threads. Ideally they'd also hire a hitman to end your pathetic lives but they don't have a high enough income for that.

[Anonymous No.24155361]

>>24155060
It's a young science, to be sure, and innately difficult to study. But since the mind is the most important thing we have, it's literally retarded not to study it.
>>24155102
Most psychological problems have unconscious causes. The subject literally doesn't know what's afflicting him. It takes a psychoanalyst to draw this out.
In fact, the subject is often actively suppressing the cause of his problems, because it represents something he doesn't want to acknowledge about himself. He may well have taken blameworthy actions, or have character faults, or experienced traumatic events, that he has deliberately buried. It's the job of a psychoanalist/therapist to dig this stuff up and get the patient to acknowledge it.
Also, you're a retarded fuckwit and I don't know why I'm giving you the time of day.

[Anonymous No.24155368]

>>24155102
>an unconscious (which for some reason you are not aware of by definition but you can still somehow become aware of it ... )
You know that moment when you realise there's an insect crawling up your arm? That's the point where you become aware of something that had been unconscious. Namely, a sensory impression.