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Is Nick Land to blame for this?

>> No.24152815

>>24152808
discord mods

>> No.24152818

>>24152808
crazy people will latch on to anything. im sure these creatures would have gone ballistic anyways land or not. at least without an intervention

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g/acc more like g-ACK!

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>>24152818
There's more to this story though, especially when it comes to Yudkowsky and his connection with Thiel, and also the fact that recent CEO killer was a Lesswrong reader
google aiascendant substack

>> No.24152886

>>24152808
this feels like the plot to a RoN mission

>> No.24152934

>>24152808
It's a pretty interesting rabbit hole:
https://zizians.info
https://medium.com/@sefashapiro/a-community-warning-about-ziz-76c100180509
https://sinceriously.blog-mirror.com [Ziz's blog]

>> No.24152957

>>24152934
also check aiascendant on substack

>> No.24152995

the cult actually revolves around ai safety, so no

>> No.24152998

>>24152934
None of these give the slightest clue as to why they would merk a border guard instead of one of the autists they're feuding with

>> No.24153000

come into my goon channel. i will teach you about anime bestiality and terrorism to further my delusional political goals :3

>> No.24153189

>>24152832
Where does Scott Alexander fit into all this?

>> No.24153210

>>24152808
Amir Borhanian is a cutie, I could've saved "her". The rest of them are trashcan troons, but Amir was a good girl she dindu nuffin just fell in with the wrong crowd n sheiiit.

>> No.24153223

>>24152998
Doesn't seem like it was planned. They were under surveillance after walking around publicly in black robes with fire arms. That's why they were stopped by the border patrol in the first place I guess. Then she opened fire and got her German friend killed. Previously some other tranny squatters attacked the 80 year old landlord with a samurai sword and he shot one of them dead. The impression one gets is that they are somewhat incompetent as criminals.

>> No.24153327

>>24152998
See:
>Functional Decision Theory
https://zizians.info/#functional-decision-theory
>The theoretical basis for Zizian social conduct is Yudkowsky and Soare's "functional decision theory". "Functional decision theory" is designed as an answer to Newcomb-like problems where the actions of others are conditional on which decision theory an agent uses. In normal English, it's about situations where the environment will change depending on who you are. The classic example is a choice between two boxes full of money. The first box has much more money in it but only if you're the sort of person who will take that box and leave the other behind. Functional decision theory says the solution to this problem is to choose a strategy which responds to this situation by only taking the first box. It asserts an acausal theory of decisions, where you do not make choices between outcomes but choices between strategies. Instead of saying "now that I'm here I'll take both boxes" an FDT agent says "I know I only get to be here if I one box; so I'll one box".
>In Zizian thought this concept is expanded to justify behavior that would make a Sovereign Citizen blush. Zizians do not think it is ever valid to surrender. The reasoning goes that if someone is trying to extract a surrender from you, giving in is choosing a strategy that gets coerced into surrender. If you fight bitterly you prevent the coercion in the first place by making it too costly to fight you. (Associated phrases: "nosell"; "collapse the timeline";)
>This can often be a valid way to think about things, but Ziz and her followers apply it in every scenario without considering the power difference between fighters. If you can't make it costly enough to fight you, refusing to surrender is a sure way to see the inside of a jail cell or the pearly gates. We see this in action during the Camp Meeker incident. While we can only speculate on the motives of the protesters for screaming at police, it seems likely this played an important role.
They believe you construct the world with your consent. So if you don't consent to being arrested, you won't be arrested. Which is actually true for the dead one who refused to surrender to border control then started shooting: he is dead, not in detention. Not the healthiest nor most viable approach to life, I'd suggest.

>>24152808
So in answer to OP: no, Nick Land is not to blame. Their pathology comes from woo woo interpretations of other thinkers, combined with their own woo woo-isms about brain hemispheres each having separate personalities, and a belief in unihemispheric sleep that causes chronic sleep deprivation.

>> No.24153522

>>24152808
Nah, Big Yud is.

>> No.24154378

>>24152808
Check out the SneerClub if you want to know more about the Zizians

>> No.24154418

>>24154378
I see it's more about Yudkowsky who is basically proto-Destiny

>> No.24154425

>>24154378
I was reading about rational community, and especially effective altruism or whatever, it seems to be one giant Jewish money laundering scheme

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Pink Flamingos is

>> No.24154575

no, nick land actually has nothing to do with these people. not every edgy trans woman is a landian.
>>24152998
border patrol stopped them because they were acting suspicious, youngblut started blasting at the first opportunity and bauckholt went for her gun in response and got killed

>> No.24155288

>>24152808
>Is Nick Land to blame for this?
Nick Land couldn't organise a fisting at chomsky/Foucault if he covered his arsehole with orange juice.

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>>24152808
at this point you don't even pretend it has something to do with literature

>> No.24155395

>>24155333
It has a lot to do with language if you ever bother to read how these people write in detached dehumanized and pseudoscientific manner
epistemology on hrt
Furthermore Big Yud against who these trannies rebelled is a huge Harry Potter slashfic tard

>> No.24155428

>>24155395
You’re a weird person for being so invested in this stuff