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2413126 No.2413126 [Reply] [Original]

Only good science fiction writers:

Philip K Dick
JG Ballard
Stanislaw Lem

>> No.2413136

What a peculiar way of spelling Isaac Asimov, sir.

>> No.2413142

>>2413136
I don't think OP was trying to spell Isaac Asimov. Asimov is the name of a different author and the names of the ones posted are very different from his.

>> No.2413143

>>2413136

I'm sorry, I meant actual literature, not spaceship porn

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>>2413126

>good
>sci fi

I don't think there are any "good" genre writers; there are only entertaining and non-entertaining ones

>> No.2413161

>>2413126
Dear anon,

You need to recheck these author's names...
The second one is spelled Isaac Asimov.

You also seem to have forgotten Ray Bradbury and Robert A. Heinlein.

>> No.2413163

Robert Silverberg
Jack Vance
Gene Wolfe

dig a little deeper OP

>> No.2413165

Kafka
Murakami

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>>2413165

>> No.2413168

I fell from underground
my skin covered in paint
nobody believes i killed her
a swirling wave of demon semen
cocaine is a hell of a drug

>> No.2413175

>>2413148
That's what good means, not exactly entertaining, but appreciated, either for the technique, or for how much fun you had while reading, or for something else and of course, a combination of all that.

>> No.2413180

>>2413126
HG Wells literally invented he genre..

>> No.2413191

>>2413136
>>2413126
Those guys stink

>> No.2413210

>>2413175
>>2413175

its the difference between tasty and healthy

harry potter is entertaining (tasty) but it isn't good (healthy)

good literature has philosophical merit and aesthetic prose.
sci-fi has yet to have any of the above ^

>> No.2413216

>>2413180

too bad he wasn't any good at it (also see Verne, although he's at least entertaining to read)

>> No.2413553

OP speaks the truth.

Only good fantasy writers:

???

>> No.2413557

You forgot Frank Herbert.

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2413556

Those are good, but Scientology is the greatest sci-fi fantasy of all time.

>> No.2413563

I wouldn't say they're the only good ones, but I do agree that Phillip K. Dick and Stanislaw Lem are really incredible. haven't read any JG Ballard yet.

I also like Orson Scott Card and Frank Herbert and Heinlein and Welles and HG Wells and all those other guys though...
although I think Huxley is super over rated I don't give a shit about his supposed relevancy, his ideas were not that interesting and his prose was even worse.

>> No.2413567

>>2413553
mervyn peake

>> No.2413631

Gibson
Stephenson
Pohl

>> No.2413650

U bitches ever read some Jonathan Lethem or are you a scared that you'd have to buy some clothes that verged on fitting if you dared to like a popular American contemporary novelist?

>> No.2413661

>>2413631
lol don't know pohl but....

>> No.2413677

>>2413650

Lethem is the shit, but only his early novels are kind of science-fiction, and even then just barely.

And I agree with OP to a degree. I wouldn't claim to know who's "good" or "bad," but few science fiction writers really contribute anything to literature over all. I've read a lot of PKD and Ballard and think they are exceptions to that. I'll have to check out Lem.

Lethem's science-fiction aspects are basically just PKD with good prose.

Meanwhile there's a lot of sci-fi that I enjoy reading, but I don't really see it as any more enriching than watching an episode of family guy.

There's also stuff like Vernor Vinge (his non-space shit) that offers interesting ideas in terms of futurism (he's a computer science professor after all), but not much in terms of lit.

>> No.2413678

>>kurt vonnegut
>>terry pratchett
>>hg wells

>> No.2413683

This is a blatant troll thread.

>> No.2413691

>>2413678
>pratchett

lol

>>2413677
lethem is awesome.

i haven't read something of his yet that i didn't consider good.

>> No.2413878

>>2413143
wut

>> No.2413880

>>2413148
I wish more people thought like this.

>> No.2413881

>>2413210
>good literature has philosophical merit and aesthetic prose.
That's how YOU define good.
Other people have different opinions,what a surprise!

Also I see some aesthetics in Asimov or PKD's prose, and some mindfucking books by PKD have some philosophical insight; not to mention visionary concepts such as psychohistory patented by Asimov.That's just myopinionthough.

>> No.2413884

>>2413216
How so?

>> No.2413886
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>>2413553
Robert Howard
Howard Lovecraft
Terry Pratchett
Glen Cook
Michael Moorcock
Gene Wolfe
Poul Anderson

>> No.2413914

>>2413886
Tolkien

also Sanderson isn't too bad

>> No.2413925

>>2413914
>>2413886
I know he's gotten way too popular for /lit/, but Storm of Swords in one of the best fantasy books i've read and ASOIAF is a great series. GRRM is a good fantasy writer.