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What makes it so popular?

>> No.23962128

It's a dystopian novel where women are forced to reproduce. Fear of Christian nationalists coming to power to make this happen are driving up sales.

>> No.23962132
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I see Handmaid thread, I post Dolan. Simple as.

>> No.23962145

>>23962118
I wish I could go back in time and burn this stupid fucking manuscript.

My wife now thinks that JD Vance is going to take away her bank account and not let pregnant women cross borders because of the bullshit political hysteria created around this dogshit book. Had a big blow under because I told her she is being manipulated.

Fuck you margaret Atwood and fuck American law liberalism for breaking woman’s brains. I would rather deal with communist dialectics than whatever this is.

>> No.23962147

>>23962145
Sorry for typos wrote this at the gym
*blow up
*American liberalism

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>>23962132

>> No.23962204

>>23962145
>My wife now thinks that JD Vance is going to take away her bank account and not let pregnant women cross borders
god I hope he does

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>>23962145
>My wife now thinks that JD Vance is going to take away her bank account and not let pregnant women cross borders because of the bullshit political hysteria created around this dogshit book.

>> No.23962227

>>23962118
Is the author a jew by any chance?

>> No.23962237

>>23962118
Women obsess immensely over sex, actually much more than men. Women will dedicate everything to looking as sexual as possible as often as possible, and to judge everyone else on the standards of sex. Whereas a guy might have ugly friends or talk to ugly women, a woman won't have ugly friends, and won't talk to men she sees as beneath her. Women explicitly say they entertain friendzone relationships out of rape-avoidance. This is compounded when you realize that the primary sexual fantasy of a woman is rape. Even feminists admit that all sex is rape to a woman. They basically divide this into two categories; good rape and bad rape. Good rape is where she instigates sexual feelings in a wild man and tames him through hot wild sex. Bad rape is institutional rape - where sex is expected, non spontaneous, society demands it, etc (where it's not wild animal sex). Women abhor institutional/socially mandated sex more than anything in the world. This is the only lens a woman sees the political world through - how will it affect her rape fantasies. More wild immigrants needing taming? Great! Abortion ban? But then all rape comes with institutional baggage and that's a no-no. The handmaid's tale appeals to women because it's tale about institutional, expected rape. There is no wild animal for her to tame, no hot rapefugee pinning her down in an alley. It is some man making her serve society. It's the worst possible sexual horror story for women. The closest male equivalent would be a detailed manifesto of how a man is skinned alive and his own dick and balls are fed to him. Do not underestimate female obsession with sex.

>> No.23962248

>>23962227
Worse, an englishwoman.

>> No.23962262

>>23962248
That’s bad news for me, the male counterpart

>> No.23962266
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>>23962262
>there are english "people" posting on this board right now

>> No.23962275

There are so many more 'feminist' novels that are actually good instead of this 'in your face' novel. Atwood knows no nuance and goes to the extreme end to present 'oppression' .

>> No.23962293

>author's name larger and more visible than the title
SLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOP

>> No.23962346

>>23962266
Worse, a British-American

>> No.23962348

>>23962275
There is no good ‘feminist’ anything, jacko

>> No.23962370

>>23962118
These fucking midwit women need to go read some actual decent feminist literature such as The Female Man by Russ or Ice by Kavan

>> No.23962832

>>23962118
It's a rape fantasy for middle-class white women.
Rape is literally the most common sexual fantasy among females.

>> No.23962836

>>23962275
There are only two female writers in all of human history that are worth reading and both of them were conservative Christians that have been dead for almost a century.

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>>23962118
Obligatory

>> No.23962857

>>23962846
Kek'd hard

>> No.23962866

>>23962832
Ravishment, not rape. Ravishment is: a hot, successful guy's lust overtaking him and forcibly impregnating you in his mansion. Rape is: some ugly, poverty-stricken alcoholic pervert's misogyny overtaking him and forcibly impregnating you in a back alley.

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>>23962846
Came here to post this. Beat me to it you fucker.

>> No.23963046

>>23962248
Even worse, a anglo-canadian women. Feels rude to set a dystopia in a country other than your own desu, but nothing new about a shitlib canadian needing to feel smug about not being USA.. (Not to say the conservatives here who just want to blindly ape US culture with zero care about our own are better)

>> No.23963159

>>23962118
>What makes it so popular?
there's a tv show based on it. that's it

>> No.23963170
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>>23962118
>What makes it so popular?

>> No.23963204

>>23962118
>women's fantasy
>women are retarded
>the only value women have is their body
>literal rape fantasies
Women shouldn't have the right to vote

>> No.23963222

>>23962118
Because the worst thing a liberal woman can imagine is not being able to have sex whenever she gets an impulse to, with whomever excites that impulse.
i.e. basic self control

>> No.23963350

>>23962132
I rather like this characterization of Islam as a loser's club

>> No.23963430

>>23962118
Rape fantasies for childless women. It's the same reason the Shades of Gray novels were so popular.

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>>23962866
I actually know 2 girls who prefer to masturbate to the latter in hentai and see themselves as the girl. I'm sure there's more. It's probably all weebs.

>> No.23963530

>>23962846
I don't see why anyone cares about abortions.
If we don't have them, they'll just go in the dumpster. There's dumpster babies from california to alabama, even with abortions, and that shit has been constant since the dawn of man.
What do you think "sudden infant death syndrome" is? Dumpster babies. For every thousand babies, one's getting dumpstered, whether you choose to do it with a coat hangar or a trash compactor.

>> No.23963534

>>23963530
My only thought is that it must be an emotional thing, and that everyone who cares about abortions just isn't thinking logically.

>> No.23963538

>>23963530
I can't imagine what kind of person would throw a baby in a dumpster.

>> No.23963543

>>23963538
A person who wants to get rid of a baby?

>> No.23963544

>>23963538
Well, logically, everyone who is against abortions, as they prefer the fully grown baby being dumpstered to a half grown baby being dumpstered.

Additionally, every human society, including you and me, since the dawn of time.

>> No.23963546

>>23963530
>I don't see why anyone cares about abortions.
Mostly Christians, There aren't many secular arguments as long as its early on.

>> No.23963552

>>23963546
Why would you care even if it's an infant?
People kill their kids all the time, babies especially.

>> No.23963554

>>23963543
There are so many good parents who would adopt a baby, there are decade long wait-lists. To resort to that is fucked.

>> No.23963562

>>23963554
That's a lot more work than leaving the baby out in the woods to be eaten by wolves, or torn apart by crows, anon.
Additionally, everyone will think you're a terrible person. Wheras if you lost your baby in the woods, or it died suddenly, you are now a tragic figure who everyone praises and cares for.

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>>23963552
>People kill their kids all the time, babies especially.
What
>>23963562
So their laziness made them murder a baby? only solidifies my confusion to how such psychos exist

>> No.23963581

>>23963562
>murdering someone is way easier than leaving them to die, and it's more socially acceptable too
The absolute state of society

>> No.23963591

>>23963570
>what
Did you not know? Every society has an unpleasantly high amount of murdered babies. They are ultimately disposable, and the numbers bear that out.

>So they're lazy?
No, that's just the set of options and responses they were given by nature and society. Giving up your child to be adopted? Bad mother. Your baby "mysteriously" dying of being incredibly shaken? You now get eternal government dole, sympathy from the entire community, you lose a loud and calorie hungry dependent that WILL lead wolves to you, etcetera etcetera.

There's no actual downside, really, besides being out a future productive human and wasting 9 months of labor.

>>23963581
It's not just society, this is how the world itself is designed. Animals constantly are killing their babies, eating their babies, throwing their babies at predators to get away faster, etc.

>> No.23963600

>>23963591
>most sane anti natalist

>> No.23963608

>>23963600
Oh, no, I'm pro reproduction, as we need babies to continue our species, as that's very important.
But you have to be incredibly dishonest to not recognize the commonality and practicality of baby destruction. Which leads me to my original problem: What possible logic could anti-abortionists be working on?

The theory I've come to, given that most of them are christians, is they want the baby to be baptized before it's tossed in the dumpster, so that their god can use it to power his toaster or whatever he's doing up there.

>> No.23963624

>>23963608
>Killing humans is immoral because it forcibly and unjustly deprives that human of life
>Babies are humans
>Therefore killing babies is immoral
It's not complicated, most philosophies use whatever they deem most important as the source of human dignity, whether that's God, property rights, moral relativism, etc.

>> No.23963632

>>23963624
Killing humans isn't inherently immoral though- Any philosophy that argues it is is one that cannot possibly survive on its own. It is a parasite philosophy, and provably false.

>> No.23963642

>>23963600
>>23963608
>reads unempathetic post
>tries to blame anti-natalism
Nice try, ANs are high IQ enough to wear condoms

>> No.23963657

>>23963600
Recognizing infanticide occurs and the rationale of why is not antinatalism

>> No.23963658

>>23963642
I've got empathy, I just... am not a liar. I see how many babies are killed, all the time. If I am not expected to care about an african baby in a dumpster, why am I expected to care about one in alabama? Or california? Or two doors down from my place?

>> No.23963662

>>23963632
>Killing humans isn't inherently immoral though- Any philosophy that-

Anon just disproved:
>Buddhists
>Christians
>Kantians
>Schopenhauerians
>Existentialists
>ur mom

>> No.23963666

>>23963662
Buddhists and christians both have had numerous armed and militant branches that kill LOADS of people. Their philosophies explicitly allow for this, as christians can just beg forgiveness and buddhists can, as always, simply leave the coil of reincarnation.
Those other guys are incredibly unimportant, and are basically a rounding error that will be destroyed by time within 500 years.

>> No.23963674

>>23963666
>>23963662
though, the pacifist branches of these faiths ARE parasites, it's true.
Did you know over a dozen monks per year burn themselves to demonstrate, in a pacifistic way, that they dislike that china is occupying their homeland?
They're literally killing themselves just so that someone -else- will solve the problem for them.

>> No.23963682

>>23963666
>>23963674
You confuse the philosophy with the actions of the flawed human practitioners

>> No.23963685

>>23963682
>real communism has never been tried

>> No.23963687

>>23963682
No, the philosophies are pretty explicit about this. Well, as explicit as they can be-
The christian god is self admittedly a lying, spiteful, jealous, and petty god, and the buddhist teachings come directly from a rich boy who sat under a tree then declared the solution for poverty was just not wanting things.

Neither of these are really good sources for reliable information in the best of times.

>> No.23963700

>>23963687
We moved from the topic of murder being morally bad somehow, but that's okay. I still think Christianity and Buddhism has done the most good for creating an empathetic and successful society than any other philosophies or religions.

>> No.23963707

>>23963700
We moved from the topic when I pointed out that it's not in fact inherently bad to kill people, and any group that refuses entirely to kill people cannot possibly survive without parasitizing onto another group.

And I'm not sure what you see in buddhists and christians, they kill just as much as anyone else, as they are required to to survive. Either that, or they parasitize onto other groups and make them kill for them. Same thing, just more dishonest and evil.

>> No.23963714

>>23963658
Good point.
>>23963662
How does it disprove christians? Christians don't say that killing is inherently wrong. They endorse killing, the bible is full of it.

>> No.23963720

>>23963714
Remember that time god kills job's entire family and everyone he knows just to win a bet with satan?
And then doesn't revive them, and just brainwashes new people to love job?

Fucker's got the mental acuity of a skinwalker and I'm not sure he's sapient.

>> No.23963722

>>23963530
>I don't see why anyone cares about abortions.
Because they are too dumb to recognize that creating more suffering in the world is bad.

>> No.23963728

>>23963720
>Fucker's got the mental acuity of a skinwalker and I'm not sure he's sapient
I'd say that about the people who take this stuff seriously, not the fictional character of yahweh.

>> No.23963729

>>23963722
Well, it is bad, but it's not like the suffering will live for long, you know?
It makes basically no difference to me whether that baby is torn apart by wolves or ripped apart inside the womb.
The entire value of a baby is in time, effort, and calories spent, which means the younger one is the more disposable it becomes, you know?

>> No.23963733

>>23963728
No, I'm saying it about yahweh.
He's fucking creepy and seems like some kind of higher order predator trying to anglerfish people directly into his glowing mouth.
Remember that time he was like "Okay, I promise I'll stop doing the evil stuff, and to prove that I'm sending a guy down to be horribly tortured, reanimated, and then shot into the sky."?

>> No.23963736

>>23963714
>How does it disprove christians? Christians don't say that killing is inherently wrong.
It's in the 10 commandments
>Remember that time god kills job's entire family and everyone he knows just to win a bet with satan?
God is not human though is he.

>> No.23963740

>>23963736
But the original wording is thou shalt not murder, which is an unlawful killing.
Thou shalt not kill is factually impossible, as you are killing right now as we speak every moment of the day and you can't possibly stop.

>> No.23963743

>>23963736
>>23963740
And no, god's not human, he's obviously some kind of predatory entity trying to lure humans to be consumed.

>> No.23963766

>>23962145
I feel sorry for your bad taste in women if you married a woman so easily malleable.

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I asked my wife, "Why do so many women like Handmaid's Tale?"
She replied, not having read it, "I don't know. Maybe it's a good book."

>> No.23963891

>>23963722
Suffering is a good thing, retard

>> No.23963895

>>23963642
But apparently not high IQ enough to raise kids, curious.

>> No.23964093

>>23963766
Okay have fun marrying a man. They’re all like this

>> No.23964106

Wait, where did the lesbian thread go?

>> No.23964826

>>23963736
>It's in the 10 commandments
You don't even read the bible lol

>> No.23964865

>>23964826
Thank you. Not sure I can understand the train of thought that lead you to this cryptic reply thoughbeitly.

>> No.23964868

>>23962118
I'm not like the other girls; the normies who read this book. I stay at home and read medieval history. I'm just like you guys really.

>> No.23964876

>>23962128
It's a female rape fantasy where high value males force woman to have sex with them. The setting is almost immaterial to the books success.

>> No.23964885

>>23963707
absolutely bonkers poster. so killing someone isn't parasitic? since not killing someone is parasitic? so if i kill you and take all your stuff i'm not a parasite? will be trying later thx for the tip

>> No.23964888

>>23963733
he was, quite notably, not just some guy.

>> No.23964943

>>23964876
The setting is crucial for the public acceptability and marketability of the book towards an audience who isn't altogether comfortable openly acknowledging to reading smut.

>> No.23964958

>>23964943
It's not really. Atwood wrote it about Muslims. It's not the context most readers now will find for it, but it is about the Iranian Revolution. The people who like it now would probably like it less if it involved Islamophobia.

>> No.23964985

>>23963658

I for one don't give a single fuck about abortions. But I want to see women subjugated and suffer. Her body belongs to her husband and her in laws and it's the sows duty to give continue her husband's bloodline.

>> No.23965005

>>23964885
You're a parasite for not killing people who need to be killed.
For instance, if you tried to kill me and take my things, I would be morally wrong not to kill you first.
>>23964888
Yeah, he's a predator, an anglerfish to catch humans. It's why he doesn't seem sapient and can't hold a position for two conversations.
It's like talking to a weaponized chatgpt

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>>23963530
>>23963538
>>23963562
>>23963600
>>23963642
>>23963658
>>23963662
>>23963736

the abortion debate is actually about property law; any other secular framing fails:

>who owns the uterus?

the most solid argument against abortion is that the fetus is naturally entitled to the use of the uterus because it is an organ specifically designed for the fetus. It therefore becomes eminent domain (as the fetus is a ward of the state) and supersedes the bodily autonomy of the gestating person.

TL;DR your body, my choice.

>> No.23965025

>>23965014
It's obviously the woman's property, just as the baby is too.
Hence the rate of SIDS.
Regardless of whatever posing you may do, you cannot defeat the nature of man. And man kills their babies all the time.

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>make contraceptive options insanely cheap and accessible
>women still choose infanticide

>> No.23965044

>>23965039
Yes. mankind will always choose infanticide, it is part of our instinct package.
Regardless of what social constructs you create, this won't change for hundreds of thousands of years. The best you can do is lower the rate of infanticide, a little. Not even a lot.

>> No.23965050

>>23965025
Women shouldn’t even be entrusted with raising kids nowadays

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>>23962118
>sex distribution of IQ

It makes hard constraints of environment, breeding and class something other than they are, and thus mediocrity more palatable and externalized. Mid women reading is always a homunculus disassociation exercise for deficient (or entirely absent) 'theory of mind'.

>>23962237
>Even feminists admit that all sex is rape to a woman. They basically divide this into two categories; good rape and bad rape.

Ravishment (being so enticing, the object of desire cannot help themselves, i.e. hormonal mark/simp) vs. Transactional rigamarole or bribing from a compromised position (pls no murder, or anal) which doesn't involve bagging Chad, while hazarding not being able to obtain Chad carrying a rape baby to term subconscious appreciation of BAD antigen priming of non-compatible blood group types of the Raper making future pregnancies harder and/or developmentally compromised at an autoimmune level

>>23963687
Supercessionism.

>>23963530
Abortions are free because 'the clump of STEM cells' is worth tens of thousands of dollars. Larger the clump, more better, hence infanticide of premature babies. There's a duty of care to late term premies that can be sustained by medical intervention with reasonably good outcomes, and American on-demand Moloch worship is an Establishment Clause imposition, just like the indefensible cosmetic dick ripping of infants as a sacrament.

>> No.23965053

>>23965044
What instinct do you mean? Surely nothing that the superior gender is endowed with?

>> No.23965057

>>23965050
I am not sure why you are specifying women when men have done this infinite times throughout history.
The whole tribe dies if a baby is born at a bad time and continues to survive. Obviously it's usually the woman who does this, but the men will too if the woman does not.

>>23965053
Why are you being so incredibly dishonest?

>>23965052
Stem cells are readily obtained cheaper and quicker through standard cloning techniques, anon. I am not sure why you are being dishonest about this, either. Killing babies is a necessary survival adaptation, and will stay a necessary survival adaptation until all famine and survival requirements are lost. And then it will go away in a few hundred thousand years.

>> No.23965061

>>23962118
it wasn't supposed to be an instruction manual...

>> No.23965076

>>23963544
"murder will happen anyway so it might as well be legal!" isn't much of an argument

>> No.23965080

>>23963591
just because something occurs in the state of nature doesn't mean it's justifiable in a modern civil society
we should have more robust systems for orphan care, not more dead orphans

>> No.23965082

>>23963658
you're not expected to be in a constant state of rage at the injustices of the world
but brainwashing yourself so as to justify not believing them injustices is ridiculous
I'm not religious but if I saw someone kill a baby in front of me I'd kick his or her ass.

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>>23962118
holy shit, this "margaret atwood" creature looks like a fucking demon

>> No.23965121

>>23965061
What are some other books that exemplify the phrase "it wasn't supposed to be an instruction manual"?

>> No.23965144

>>23965082
Eh. If someone kills their own baby it's not really something I can stop.
>>23965076
>>23965080
You have no possible way of preventing this from happening other than creating a completely government controlled dystopia.

>> No.23965148

>>23964958
>Atwood wrote it about Muslims
She wrote it about the coming future of the West which was going to be INFLUENCED by Muslims. And look at that, she was spot on.

>> No.23965152

>>23965144
fewer murders are better than more murders, even if it's impossible to reach the level of no murders

>> No.23965182

>>23965152
It's significantly easier to stop murders than to stop babykilling.
Babies die very easily, and societies tend to pretend baby killings are something else.
Hence SIDS
The difference is made especially stark when you realize that all you have to do to kill a baby is just not care for it.
As evidenced in the real world, we simply do not have the administrative, economical, moral, or evolutionary capacity to stop this, or even reduce it much. As opposed to murders, which we can reduce by a lot.

>> No.23965423

>>23965148
If real, that shit aged like a fine wine.

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>>23964093
>marrying in the first place

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>>23964958
I wonder if this hero is still around

>> No.23965640

>>23965053
>What instinct do you mean? Surely nothing that the superior gender is endowed with?
You can't be this retarded
Killing kids as a man when you suspected they weren't yours is common throughout history
I for one, would absolutely minecraft my wife and her kid if I found out the kid wasn't mine

>> No.23965644

Abortion needs to be legal, but only during the fourth trimester and if the mother does the throttling in public.

>> No.23965667

>>23965014
No it's not about property. I own my head, does that give me the right to blow my head off?
My head is my property, according to you I could do whatever I want with it, right? Well then, I now demand the government to give me a free shotgun shot made by a professional straight to my head in a nice place.
Don't you see how ridiculous this is?

>> No.23965674

>>23965640
I must have missed that part, regardless, women should absolutely not have a decision in whether their kids are born or not. But yeah you’d be justified if they weren’t yours.

>> No.23965676

>>23965057
I just don’t like abortion full stop, but as >>23965640
specified, abortion should only be attempted if the kid is not his own

Also I was tired last night, and had too much on my mind.

>> No.23965685

>>23962118
Same reason true crime is so popular with women.

>> No.23965984

>>23964943
I said almost immaterial.
You elucidated it yourself: the setting is how it's marked and is an abstract and almost totally generic "matriarchy bad" blue to underpin a rape fantasy. The rape fantasy is what women buy and the setting, as you said, is for marketing.

>> No.23966112

>>23965005
oh, so its about justice?

>> No.23966898

youre sort of asking the right questions

>> No.23967794

>>23966112
Pretty sure he's just saying the end result of doing no killing is bad. And pacifism is hypocritical for anyone who doesn't plan on becoming a slave.

>> No.23968266

>>23966112
>>23967794
Yeah, less about justice and more about no killing being an incredibly maladaptive stance to take.
>>23965674
This stance is preposterous for evolutionary, moral, administrative, economical, military, and legal reasons.

>> No.23968329

>>23962846
I only opened this thread to make sure this was posted

>> No.23968423

I will always be suspicious of Atwood.

I've got an old copy of Anna Karenina that was printed in the 80's in communist Poland. There's a short catalogue at the end of other books available from the state owned publisher and wouldn't you know it - Atwood's edible woman is one of the only western books featured, right between Russian Classics and Marxist Literature.

She's either an useful idiot that played right into communist agenda or she was actively doing so.

>> No.23968435

>>23962145
Well you're stupid enough to marry a stupid woman so you two dunces deserve it

>> No.23968441

>>23962145
Who cares about your blog, norman?

>> No.23968445

>>23962132
Dolan is bitter because he didnt produce a single bestseller

>> No.23968750

>>23968266
>This stance is preposterous for evolutionary, moral, administrative, economical, military, and legal reasons.
Pray tell, why? I think it’s entirely reasonable.

>> No.23968753

>>23968423
>She's either a useful idiot that played right into communist agenda or she was actively doing so.
I wouldn’t doubt it. Might even be a double agent for all we know.

>> No.23968791

>>23962118
the sigma grindset clip where it was mentioned maybe

>> No.23968803
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>>23962846
>>23962846
>what's with you and rape? noone is raping anyone.
>imprisoning and making you wear costumes on the other hand....

>> No.23968873

>>23968266
>>23967794
>And pacifism is hypocritical for anyone who doesn't plan on becoming a slave.
ohhhhhhh so it isn't immoral then, or parasitic, just hypocritical in a case? I'm further concluding from this that those who are not slaves become useful/non-parasitic by killing others, does that sound right? So their "job" is killing?

>> No.23969347

>>23965685
because they are retarded?

>> No.23969987

>>23968873
No, it's actively parasitic, as no pacifist plans to become a slave, they just want other people to do things for them.
Why are you pretending to be unable to read? Is dishonesty the only way you can argue?

>>23968750
Pick one and I'll explain it, you people have been way too intentionally retarded for me to give you more than that.

>> No.23969999

>>23962145
The problem with this guy isn't that his wife is
>>23963766
>a woman so easily malleable
but that she is apparently more malleable by other people than her own husband.

My gf came home on whatever day Trump was declared the winner and said that she had been crying at work all day because she started scrolling on her phone during her break and of course all her shit was full of sensationalist nonsense. I explained probably something similar to what >>23962145 did and after 15 minutes or so, she was smiling and laughing about how silly she had been to be so worried. I can't imagine any scenario in which that conversation turned into a fight.

>> No.23971463

>>23962118
Propaganda

>> No.23971521

>>23962118
I saw Atwood speak the other day and the interviewer was trying so hard to get her to go off on how Trump was going to turn America into Gilead and she just wouldn't. It was hilarious at one point she even said that women "can't just do whatever they want all the time."

>> No.23971892

>>23969999
Glad she wisened up but I’m kind of glad I’m single for this very reason.

>> No.23971895

>>23969987
No, I want you to give me the absolute fundamental reason why

>> No.23971900

>woman tells me that she reads
>it's exclusively ya, erotics or semi-erotic romance
I'll never find a single one who reads the classics and isn't some deranged arthoe, will I? Part of me wanna believe that things are better outside my country but I know that's just a cope.

>> No.23971924

>>23971900
Look at the silver lining, that's a sure-fire sign you've got carte blanche when it comes to fucking the shit out of her.
Besides, were you really expecting to have deep conversations with a woman? Might as well go gay if that's the deal breaker.

>> No.23972000

>that's a sure-fire sign you've got carte blanche when it comes to fucking the shit out of her.
That's almost every woman nowadays, anon. Most dress like hoes, wanna fuck on the first date and half the time ask you to fuck them raw. I'm coping because I'm looking for an unicorn.

>> No.23972007

>>23963552
>people commit murder all the time. Why do you care?
Bro...

>> No.23972015

>>23971900
You should let the deranged arthoes ruin your life

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>There are so many more 'feminist' novels that are actually good instead of this

>> No.23972537

>>23971900
Women who read the classics are maybe x3 as common as men who do, which is still uncommon outside of humanities majors but hardly impossible to find

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>>23972537
I somehow find that hard to believe