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>pleasure bad
>pain good

>> No.23883369

>>23883367
Yeah.

>> No.23883390

>>23883369
Why?

>> No.23883423

>>23883390
In terms of the book, it's because pleasure numbs-your mind and makes you worship Crystalman, who insulated the light of muspel with a thick layer of pain precisely so you would not seek it out.

>> No.23883451

>>23883390
Following pleasure is easy. You are, in fact, probably dependent upon it. When you seek pleasure, you are just mindlessly following the Will.

>> No.23884888

>>23883367
I dont know but this book is le good

>> No.23885649

>>23883390
The book itself alludes to the problem with pure pleasure. Crystalman's forest in the second to last scene of the book is pretty and comfy but above all it is completely sterile and motionless besides trees and water, there are no bugs there which Maskull encountered so frequently earlier in the book. And of course Applain is so enchanting and beautiful that Maskull loses his sense of self-worth in its sight.

>> No.23885650

>>23885649
Sorry meant to write Alppain.

>> No.23885659

I thought the method of space travel was charming.

>> No.23885679

Yes. The world is waiting for my dissertation on how David Goggins and Nyanamoli Thero embody the themes of this book.

>> No.23885695

I really gotta read this again

>> No.23885704

>>23885695
The entire board needs to read it the first time.

>> No.23885718

>>23885704
Hylics wouldn't get it

That's like 99% of the board

>> No.23885720

>>23885718
based Krag poster.

>> No.23887080

>>23883367
All pain and pleasure are two sides of the same coin of a meaningless chasing after the wind. in the face of duty. To seek out pain for the sake of pain -- or pleasure for the sake of pleasure -- is NOT the way.

/thread

>> No.23887088

>>23883390
There is no why. Hedonism is plainly wrong and refuted by every philosophy/religion that came after it.

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23887281

>>23883367
Afro-Asiatic stolen valor.

>> No.23887523

>>23885649
But Alppain (all-pain) is also the source of Muspel-light, right?
>>23887080
*gets his head smashed in*
Lindsay leaves it open whether Spadevil's face would have contorted into the crystalman grin. Also, his main gist is that the men of Sant gain pleasure by denying pleasure.

>> No.23887891

>>23887080
You cannot help but suffer pain when you actively seek for something as painful as the light of Muspel.

>> No.23889976

bump

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>>23887281

>> No.23890873

If you found a bottle of backlight would you use it?

>> No.23891566

>>23890873
The way Nightspore casually tells Maskull that he could destroy the earth by simply opening a bottle and Maskull just says "oh, ok" and puts it down.

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>>23883367

>> No.23893341

>>23883390
pleasure produces more suffering, suffering reduces suffering

>> No.23893415

>>23891566
What if he was only saying that to keep him from opening it? Ever think of that, hm?