What the fuck is wrong with the western world? Is 50%+ of the population stoned on illegal/prescription drugs? I seriously think this is a problem.

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Anonymous Mon Feb 6 12:34:53 2012 No.2384313 [Reply] [Original]

What the fuck is wrong with the western world? Is 50%+ of the population stoned on illegal/prescription drugs?

I seriously think this is a problem.

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 12:40:53 2012 No.2384326
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i mean, i think that it comes from a variety of factors but i'm starting to get this idea that (at least in america's case) the country as a whole has some mental illness. i don't think it is illegal or prescription drugs, but i think caffeine plays a part. i think tv and the internet and all of the daily distractions play a part. but, yeah, there is definitely something going on.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 12:41:52 2012 No.2384329 Nope. Everything is fine. Please go back to watching football.

>>	hakas !u/t2Vf0FFs Mon Feb 6 12:43:52 2012 No.2384334 >>2384326 you like sam hyde?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 12:44:52 2012 No.2384339 There is nothing inherently wrong with using drugs, legal or illegal. That line is pretty arbitrary anyway. Basically, we have found a way to feel better. That's just good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 12:45:53 2012 No.2384341 liberalism is a cancer which has rotted our countries.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 12:45:53 2012 No.2384343 File: 165 KB, 1294x631, lexington.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2384334 i've never heard of him, i'm just thinking based on the housing crisis. the whole country just kind of lost it's mind.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 12:48:52 2012 No.2384351 >>2384343 whats the housing crisis got to do with the population being doped up?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 12:53:56 2012 No.2384359 File: 48 KB, 490x360, cchbox23x_01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2384351 i don't know. i don't think the country is doped up. i wouldn't attribute the mental illness we suffer to any kind of psychosomatic drug anyway.

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 12:55:56 2012 No.2384363

The problem is secularism and the false divide between faith and reason. our towns and cities are falling apart because they're no longer upheld by something besides market forces. Where there used to be the focal point of the church, we now rely on shopping malls and retail parks for structural permanence but these are considerably more susceptible to economic decline.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 12:55:56 2012 No.2384364 File: 1.23 MB, 1440x632, lv8.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2384359 but i would say that we fucked our future up intensely, due to the irrational decision making during the housing crisis.

>>	hakas !u/t2Vf0FFs Mon Feb 6 12:56:56 2012 No.2384365 >>2384343 was going on your tv thing. http://youtu.be/eS646TbQgAs

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 12:58:57 2012 No.2384371 >>2384363 >>2384341 Leo Strauss is that you?

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 12:59:56 2012 No.2384373
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>>2384363
hell, i would be happy if those shopping malls and retail parks were at least within walking distance. but we took the neighborhood and blew it out of proportion, where you have to navigate endless suburbia blacktop before you can even come to the highway which will take you to the turnoff which will take you to where anything we used to call a community is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 13:00:56 2012 No.2384376 File: 142 KB, 1024x768, ford-galaxy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2384373 u mad?

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 13:03:56 2012 No.2384383

OP:
What I mean is...is that we have become superficial and shallow. The majority of the population is more concerned with the surface, and not what lies deeper. I think it's partially because we are so doped up: we are cheating our biology. With superficiality comes a whole other plethora of horrible shit. We get lazy, we become immature, we become distracted, to satisfy our wants through the least laborious way possible. It's terrible. Things become corrupted.

I remember just the other day, I was watching a 1960s documentary on American Highschool children. When the children spoke for the filmed interview, their vocabulary was extremely impressive, much better than what you could find at the student body of my university. People used to be in line...people used to be responsible.

Men and Women care more about going to clubs and getting high than starting a family, which is why we now put it off to our early 30s. What the hell is that? That's sick. We fucked up our priorities big time.

Find me children that would love to hear stories from their grandparents! Yeah, that's bloody likely! A lot of parents of today lock up their own parents in old-folks homes, so that they can be doped up round the clock. Kids are glued to the tv, internet, video game consoles. It's disgusting. We don't value personal accomplishments anymore, why don't even bother: there are people much better than you, and they are far easier to access than you ever could be (internet, youtube, torrents).

Why bother trying to make good movies anymore? It's now an easy formula. Find a target audience and incorporate the symbols and activities of the target audience into the movie.

Fuck...this is too all over the place.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 13:05:56 2012 No.2384387 File: 138 KB, 500x353, mcmansion.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2384376 i'm borderline militant, mi amigo.

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 13:05:56 2012 No.2384388

>>2384364
it's not "irrational"

the problem is the endless printing of money and credit expansion.

>>2384363
I would more put it to degenerate behavior.

We don't have any where near enough children, and we ruin our countries/neighborhoods with a flood of shitskins.

Community is destroyed because people think associating with their own race is racist or something.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 13:06:56 2012 No.2384389 >>2384383 History is cyclical. You're living in the last days of the Roman Empire. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. It gets better.

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 13:07:57 2012 No.2384393

>>2384373
More people demands more houses but clearly we didn't have any holistic strategy. Our response was BUILD MORE HOMES Instead of: Build more homes in strategic locations accounting for and providing diverse access and travel routes, public and green spaces, considering their relationship to the city as a whole.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 13:07:57 2012 No.2384394 >>2384389 These days are far more complicated than Rome.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 13:08:57 2012 No.2384395 File: 70 KB, 407x332, 32767884215629736566_610w.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2384383 1950's pastoral

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 13:08:57 2012 No.2384396

>>2384383
>A lot of parents of today lock up their own parents in old-folks homes

This has a lot to do with the fact that
a: both their parents and them waited till they were 40 to have kids.

So they are old as fuck before their kids even move out of the house.

And of course because due to better technologies, these elderly are kept alive till the mind/eyes/ears/etc start to go.

Also: People all want to live in their own homes for some reason, i dnno.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 13:08:57 2012 No.2384397 >>2384383 People live their lives how they choose. The most any moralist should do is lead by example. And here we are, posting on 4chan.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 13:09:56 2012 No.2384400 File: 140 KB, 680x423, monterey.jpg.mxw680.ha.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2384395 2010 pastoral

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 13:11:56 2012 No.2384408 >>2384397 Shut the fuck up.

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 13:12:56 2012 No.2384409
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>>2384388
>not irrational buying homes at at least double the price of a rational market

it's not up for debate whether people were acting rationally during the housing boom, they simply were not. it's historical fact.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 13:13:35 2012 No.2384416 >>2384383 Moralist faggot.

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 13:15:35 2012 No.2384420
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>>2384409
and i would like to say that with the low interest rates and housing prices finally starting to scrape bottom, i see a lot of that same type of thinking that led to the boom in people. "that you gotta go out and buy right now what's the matter with you don't wait, buy the biggest house your credit card will allow" kind of mentality. not that we'll ever see a housing crisis again, that was a once in a lifetime deal, maybe never again will there be a bubble specifically in housing, but i'm just saying we didn't even learn anything from it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 13:15:57 2012 No.2384422 >>2384409 That's why bubbles occur, you have the government massively distorting the economy. Also people think rent is "lost" money, but think housing expenses somehow aren't.

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 13:17:58 2012 No.2384429

>>2384420
>and housing prices finally starting to scrape bottom
LOL
NOPE
hahahaha Not anywhere close
>low interest rates
This is the PROBLEM, they are artificially low, set by the central bank.

>not that we'll ever see a housing crisis again

oh my god how dumb are you?
Nothing has changed, all the causes of the housing bubble are still there.

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 13:21:56 2012 No.2384450
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>>2384429
housing prices when they do hit bottom just aren't going to rebound and blow up again like they did during the bubble. you're not going to see developments like this springing up everywhere as fast as they can build them again. the ones like this that were 'stillborn' are going to take 30 years to fill up, if they ever do.

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 13:25:56 2012 No.2384467
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>>2384429
but i think there will be more financial crisis in the future for sure, just not in the housing sector. but it doesn't really matter what happens in housing now because it was so completely broken back in 2008. it is remarkable how completely we took housing from that one wholesome investment that could not be touched and turned it into the horrid perversion it is today.

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 13:25:56 2012 No.2384468

>>2384450
why would a developer clear everything and build roads before putting in the houses? Where I live (UK) the roads are just dust tracks while the houses are being built. Then once they've got owner/occupiers they pave the road in permanently.

it's not relativism or liberalism that's the problem. it's simple fucking planning.

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 13:27:58 2012 No.2384479
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>>2384429
here is another stillborn development. las vegas is full of them. note that the empty lots on the screen represent about a billion dollars of investment capital. all that money was baked into the cake, in other words people were borrowing yet more money based on the houses that were going to be built. that's how we came to such a complete collapse, whole swaths of money just disappeared.

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 13:28:58 2012 No.2384482

>>2384393

This. A little city planning would have went a long way. Europe isn't a shithole because the vast majority of their cities and towns were around before automobiles. In Amurrica everything is stupidly spread out, with lack of public transport. Of course, giant mcmansions make it all the worse, with each home requiring MORE space, spreading shit out even further as far as suburbia goes.

What I wouldn't give to be able to take a train to school instead of paying for a car, gas and insurance and driving myself everywhere. I mean, if people could cut transportation costs, wouldn't we all have more money to spend on other things, like eating out or vacations or shopping.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 13:30:56 2012 No.2384487 >>2384468 in the US people were so hot for housing developers just bulldozed whatever they could as fast as they could assuming the buyer would be there later. and it went on that way for quite awhile but it had to end somewhere.

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 13:32:56 2012 No.2384491

>>2384468
roads are government built, no? Probably shit to do with permits and zoning.
Takes years to get proper zoning to construct anything.

>>2384467
>housing
>an investment
it's just a place to live in, it's not an investment, it does not provide any returns, for 10 years there was an increase in price for a while, that was unnatural and just a bubble.

>>2384479
Yea, all this stillborn shit is proof of the Austrian theory of the business cycle, this is wealth which was malinvested into housing noone wants or can afford, and everyone is poorer because of it.

>>2384482
Europe is poor as shit so people can't afford cars there.
Planning is the problem, why do you think subburbs are so common now? because GOVERNMENT is in control of the planning, and you are not allowed to keep your neighborhood WHITE.

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 13:32:56 2012 No.2384494

>>2384487
Yeah I can see the ease and benefit of buying a big chunk of land to prepare it and divide it up later for profit. but it just seems kinda obvious that you would put the buildings in first. presumably if anyone else wanted to do anything with that land tehy'd have to pay to dig up the roads or use the existing roads, limiting what they can do there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 13:33:57 2012 No.2384496 File: 27 KB, 501x506, 1328552904334.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] not-/lit/, stop samefaging, fuck off

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 13:34:57 2012 No.2384498 >>2384491 planning can't be the problem. there is no planning in america.

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 13:35:57 2012 No.2384500
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>>2384494
you are right, it would be obvious, but not when the entire country suffers from some delusion based mental illness. in that case you build roads to nowhere because its a good way to make money.

Sebastian Lyons !tEapFcFYdE Mon Feb 6 13:39:56 2012 No.2384512

As time progressed previously, communication lines became shorter and shorter, bringing people closer together. Now we are as close as we can ever be with the Internet. As a result we will now experience people being forced and choosing to distance themselves. We live in paranoia.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 13:45:56 2012 No.2384523 >>2384389 >History is cyclical. So is life, soon humans will just be dinosaurs.

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 13:45:56 2012 No.2384525

ITT: retards who watched some YouTube vids and think they know how the economy. Oh noez big gummit!

Interest rates don't cause bubbles. They can only speed up the process. A bubble occurs whenever an abnormally profitable investment is perceived to be a safe investment. The general populace did not cause the crisis, and players were indeed acting rationally. The problem is they were acting purely for their personal short term benefit and not a long term stability.

But what any of this has to do with the problem of American culture I don't know. We call outselves a melting pot of people's but anyone who comes here is homogenized. Europe is such a rich interesting place because different cultures are in such close proximity.

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 13:46:57 2012 No.2384531

>>2384491
>Europe is poor as shit
I'm not referring to Lithuania. France, England, Germany--their communities are set up where one can walk around towns for all their needs, because when they were built there were no cars. Sprawl never occurred because there was neither desire nor the land (mostly.) You have wonderful, tight-knit, efficiently laid out communities.

It also sounds like you're blaming inner-city niggers. To a degree I can agree. In my city, the trash from the prisons get out and move here. Niggers spread across the city, dragging down housing values as they left their properties in shambles and increased crime rate. The people who could get out, did, and moved to the suburbs. (My dad's a dipshit with finance/investment and we're stuck here. The property is worthless and it won't sell for enough to pay for something elsewhere.) There's credibility to that, but it's not the only reason.

Corporate take over plays a part, I think. Instead of a bunch of small bakeries, butcher shops, grocers and delis, all spread throughout the community so that every residence was in walking distance for something, now you just have a walmart five miles down the way.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 13:49:56 2012 No.2384537 File: 1.86 MB, 1440x632, den1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] the actual dividing line of where it popped

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 13:51:56 2012 No.2384543 >>2384525 nah, that's wrong. that's all wrong. go do some more research.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 13:51:56 2012 No.2384544 >>2384537 when you have so much land around you, why would you just clump those houses together like that?

sage sage Mon Feb 6 13:52:56 2012 No.2384546

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>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 13:52:56 2012 No.2384548 >>2384543 Not Austrian enough for you?

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>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 13:53:57 2012 No.2384551 >>2384546 People who read books might actually want to talk bout what's in them

SAGE SAGE Mon Feb 6 13:54:57 2012 No.2384552

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>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 13:55:57 2012 No.2384553 >>2384551 who's doing that itt tho

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 13:57:57 2012 No.2384555 File: 30 KB, 540x373, funny-Bill-Hicks-quote-coffee.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 14:00:56 2012 No.2384561
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>>2384553
think about this more as a "what's going to be in books, and shape the future of books for years to come" kind of thread.

this is what happens to homes after they've been foreclosed on and sit vacant for awhile. copper thieves come in and rip the piping out of the walls. this is going on everywhere.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 14:04:56 2012 No.2384576 >>2384561 sure thing bro, every thread is related to books... not! better think of your thread as not belonging here

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 14:05:56 2012 No.2384577

Quick question.

There's something like 28 homes available for every homeless person, or such. And then there's the people who wish they could move out (parents's house, dorm, etc.) but can't afford to.

Would it not be beneficial to let these people live in the homes, and just pay what they can afford? Half the money for rent could go to the bank who owns the house, and the other half to the government for overhead and revenue. It would also prevent copper thieves and the like, and give accountability so hobos and kids don't trash the place. Even if it's only like, a hundred bucks a month, it's better than nothing, isn't it? Is there a reason that I can't see why this would not work?

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 14:06:56 2012 No.2384580
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>>2384313
If love was an animal, Garret knew, it would probably be the Loch Ness Monster. If it didn't exist, that didn't matter. People made models of it, put it in the water, and took photos. The hoax of it was good enough. The idea of it. Though some people fearted it, wished it would just go away, had their lives insured against being eaten alive by it.

I want to highlight this is a bad thread, but didn't know how to, so I qouted the writer of our generation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 14:07:56 2012 No.2384582 >>2384553 >>2384552 >>2384546 lol We're all fucked.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 14:10:57 2012 No.2384588 >>2384580 Let mw guess, is that Toa Lin?

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 14:10:57 2012 No.2384590

>>2384577
no can do

would violate concept of property.

and you know who violates property rights? yes, exactly, communists.
and once they have any say our grandmothers will be anally raped by puerto rican sailors, negroid musicians will give our daughters hourlong orgasms and jews will have a say in how we spend our gunmoney (presumably buying mostly their inferior guns)

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 14:15:56 2012 No.2384603 >>2384590 they don't violate anything. it's just a different balance between public and private.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 14:18:57 2012 No.2384613 File: 324 KB, 1024x683, Tegan&sara32.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2384588 Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh boy!!!!

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 14:20:56 2012 No.2384617

There were two or three people in here having a great discussion, then some idiot who declared himself a spokesperson for /lit/ and some hipsters ruined it with a bunch of hatefulness and crappy humor.

On second thought, maybe he is qualified to speak for /lit/

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 14:21:56 2012 No.2384621 >>2384590 But no, really, a solid and sensible reason why that wouldn't work. Who benefits from having houses sit unused, degrading and not earning income? And that's not rhetorical.

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 14:30:57 2012 No.2384652

>>2384621
You're probably treating housing as a commons, so people will take advantage (we all have incentive to use and degrade the commons, but not to repair or husband it). There is a similar and alternate approach of Georgism, where all landowners are taxed and have incentive to be productive or sell.

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 14:31:56 2012 No.2384656

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Anonymous Mon Feb 6 14:32:56 2012 No.2384660

>>2384621
How would you punish hobos who wreck or neglect the houses they've been stationed in? They have no money to fine, and prison is an improvement over life on the streets.

Seems like you're just encouraging property destruction by giving the keys to hobos.

>>	sage sage Mon Feb 6 14:35:57 2012 No.2384667 what an faggot op

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 14:35:57 2012 No.2384668

>>2384652

I was more going for a cooperation between government and banks/owners of empty houses, that would financially benefit both through an opportunity housing program. Not that all houses are now public property. And I was assuming that whoever took up the home would maintain it, but I guess I can see where that may be an incorrect assumption, as people who can't afford rent probably can't afford home repairs, so good point on that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 14:36:57 2012 No.2384670 We lost our way the moment we stopped prioritizing family and education. All we need to do is to follow the Chinese/East Asians/Jews in how they raise their children. Put focus on learning and your duty to the family.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 14:39:57 2012 No.2384678 File: 390 KB, 360x152, 1328532852337.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2384670 >not marrying a Tiger mom and having her beat your children into Harvard/Yale/Stanford >2013

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 14:39:57 2012 No.2384680

Name a point in time when 50% of the population anywhere hasn't been stoned on "illegal/prescription"-strength drugs.

>>2384383
Name a point in time where the majority of the population hasn't been what you consider "superficial and shallow."

Those who do not know history are doomed to nostalgia.

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 14:43:57 2012 No.2384688
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This is how I'm going to raise my children:

1. No TV.
2. Books. So many books. From the age of 3.
3. Exercise. It will be drilled into them, the importance of healthy and clean living.
4. Music. They will learn an instrument, at minimum 2, before the age of 18.
5. Mandatory STEM degree/Law degree. I will encourage them to create, but on their own free time.
6. No hanging out with white kids or black kids.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 14:43:57 2012 No.2384692 This is quite possibly the most juvenile thread I have come across on /lit/. That's factoring in Quentin's tantrums.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 14:44:57 2012 No.2384694 >>2384688 typicalasianparent.txt

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 14:45:56 2012 No.2384697

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>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 14:45:56 2012 No.2384698 >>2384688 You and your future kids will never be creative.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 14:46:56 2012 No.2384704 >>2384698 We'll have something better. Money and security for the future. White kids can drop out of school and smoke pot and create.

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 14:47:57 2012 No.2384706

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Anonymous Mon Feb 6 14:48:57 2012 No.2384708

That illness is called "dumb".

No one values real intelligence, or the pursuit of knowledge. People are complacent, uncaring and dumb.

That's it. It's always been that way, too. It's just even more painful to witness now, especially in an age where information is so accessible. There's very little excuse for blatant ignorance now days.

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 14:48:57 2012 No.2384710

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>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 14:49:56 2012 No.2384714 >>2384704 >We'll have something better. Money Encourage your kids to go into banking then.

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 14:49:56 2012 No.2384716

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Anonymous Mon Feb 6 14:51:56 2012 No.2384721

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>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 14:55:57 2012 No.2384735 >>2384668 >Not that all houses are now public property. You're being too restrictive on what a commons is. It's just a resource that everyone benefits from. Also, what is to stop people feigning lack of resources to get cheap housing?

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Anonymous Mon Feb 6 14:55:57 2012 No.2384739
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I'll let them choose their career path. Anything is fine with me, as long as they work their asses off for it. I liked the Law, but I'm sure my kids will want to do something different. All I want them to have is a comfortable future, and for the next generation to be in a better position than the last.

This isn't about the individual. This is about the responsibility of the child to the family. Do you see how the West lost its way? It lost its way when University became a place where entitled children went to waste their parents' lifesavings drinking and boozing and fucking around because that's what other kids are doing, mom~~~~~~~~~~~~. It lost its way when anything was alright with mom and dad, as long as little Jimmy was happy.

Tell me this. Are you truly happy, sitting alone in your room, unemployed, and without a future? Has it dawned on you yet (maybe this isn't you. Certainly not all white and black kids suffer from terminal laziness and stupidity, just the ones who bought into the lie being sold to them on tv)?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 14:56:57 2012 No.2384741 >>2384735 Another fine point, and like every other social program, the government shows astounding incompetence on enforcing fair distribution. Doesn't stop food stamps and welfare.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 15:00:59 2012 No.2384750 File: 226 KB, 1024x768, 1328075277989.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2384739 >Are you truly happy, sitting alone in your room, unemployed, and without a future?

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True. Cheap common housing does exist, like practically free housing, in Europe. But they're old Christian lodgings, you have to show that you're a devout Christian and then pay 1 euro a month. And they, unsurprisingly, have massive waiting lists and, unsurprisingly, also only work because the organizations that run them have immense wealth.

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Anonymous Mon Feb 6 17:03:58 2012 No.2385048
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this is Warren Buffet's house by the way. He's the third richest man in the world and lives in a pretty typical upper middle class home. but he bought it back in 1950 when it cost 37,000 dollars. it's worth 600,000 dollars today.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 17:16:59 2012 No.2385073 Because only garish black rappers and the middle-class white folks who copy them have bling houses. He's probably happier that way; investing is just his form of fun.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 17:17:59 2012 No.2385074 >220-odd years since the beginning of the 19th century >Criticising what a man does with his own body and mind.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 17:28:59 2012 No.2385097 Society has always been like this... But maybe with the internet, and ease of access to actual information, things will change... Wikipedia is more accurate than most textbooks, and the best thing is that it's free so it's not restricting at all.

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 17:52:58 2012 No.2385177

>>2385048
So what? learn how inflation works you dumb faggot. Counting the bubble which has more then doubled the actual realistic value of the home, there has been no increase.

Also if you invested 40k dollars into the stockmarket, it would be far more.

Housing is not and will never be an "investment".

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 17:58:58 2012 No.2385194

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>Housing is not and will never be an "investment".
In many areas, you can get a decent and fairly low risk ROI from rent. The investment is fairly stable (except for bubbles) and non-liquid. Granularity can be a problem when liquidating assets, but for long term it's not too bad really.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 18:04:58 2012 No.2385222 >>2385194 Housing is mostly a bubble. You only make a lot of money on housing when it is a bubble. It also diverts assets away from productive investments and focusses them into capital gains, which are worthless to a practical economy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 18:07:58 2012 No.2385230 File: 81 KB, 389x599, diogenes4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If any of you people knew how to live a virtuous life according to nature you would have zero problems.

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the thing is that, over the last 100 years, we stopped spending our time outside, because in the house we have air conditioners and television and fine furnitures. and in doing so we stopped listening to nature. and if you know anything about anything you know God speaks to us through nature. and so basically it all boils down to we stopped listening to God.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 18:08:58 2012 No.2385237 >>2385194 There hasn't been a good ROI for renting in decades. Also the laws are wildly in favor of the renter, at least where i live. Most of the "return" at least in recent years has been the increase in the "value" of the houses.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 18:09:58 2012 No.2385242 >>2385230 >>2385231 I'm not that big on God, but close enough, brother.

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 18:09:58 2012 No.2385245

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>You only make a lot of money on housing when it is a bubble.
There's nearly nothing that isn't true for. You're also likely to lose a lot of money in a bubble. What's your point?
>It also diverts assets away from productive investments
No it doesn't. Investment in housing, like buy to lets, is a productive investment.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 18:11:58 2012 No.2385253 >>2385245 >Investment in housing, like buy to lets, is a productive investment. How can you think that?

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we used to live in ranch style houses like this that exist inside of the natural beauty around them. with this kind of house you can sit at by the open window and survey your kingdom and let the sounds of nature envelop you from any room in the house. kids actually had a lawn to play on because it was boring inside because there was no tv or videogames and in doing so they were instilled with the natural wonder of things, and gained an awareness of their place in the world and all her vastness. and people were weary of extravagance because it might diminish their values.

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 18:15:58 2012 No.2385265

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>There hasn't been a good ROI for renting in decades.
Heavily area dependent. Also dependent on what you invested in the house in the first place.
>Also the laws are wildly in favor of the renter
I don't know about your area, but a lot of people believe it, despite it being total BS in a lot of areas.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 18:16:58 2012 No.2385269 >>2385253 I suppose housing is just magically maintained luxury, huh? Do we even need housing?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 18:18:58 2012 No.2385273 >>2385269 do you know what productive means?

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and in this era we used to be able to walk to work, and walk to the store, and walk to church and the library and school and our friends houses and there was a real sense of community. and instilled in everyone a desire to protect that community, because that where you would likely live for the rest of your life, so you took care of it.

i don't like to say that we're seeing something now that we've never seen before because i'm weary of ever thinking that there is something new under the sun, but i would feel secure in saying that we have never faced anything like our current predicament in housing. i fully believe that it will be at least a generation, and maybe two, before we've as a people divested ourselves of the perverted value system that led to it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 18:21:59 2012 No.2385282 >>2385273 I do, but I think you don't.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 18:22:59 2012 No.2385284 >>2385276 this is an era of multi-culturalism and godless liberalism. Don't expect things to improve.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 18:46:58 2012 No.2385339 >>2384739 >>2384704 >>2384688 You, I like you. It took me a long time to shake off the brainwashing most of these pricks still adhere to. Slit-eyed Asians are building the future.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 18:49:58 2012 No.2385347 File: 34 KB, 500x375, 2006-08-mcmansion25.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2385339 you think that hard work will fix everything but you've been lied to.

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 18:58:59 2012 No.2385371

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Hard work would prove fruitless if you are working for inept rulers.

I don't want to say revolution would be a good thing....but I'm leaning towards it. The problem with revolution is that it is usually perpetrated by the very people it sets out against, hurting the little man most.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 19:12:58 2012 No.2385409 bump

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maybe we can learn something from this post, it does, after all, reek of low self esteem and a flawed value system. for one thing, mandatory law degree for your children. well i know we didn't lose our way as a society an account of lack of lawyers. Maybe what we can glean from this post is that we have low self esteem as a society, because in a society with low self esteem it is more about what you do, but in a society with high self esteem we would value more that a person takes pride in what they do. and we would not be so concerned that our kids have to learn two different types of musical instruments, (lol 2? why not 3? or 4? why stop at 2?) but we that we would be more concerned that our children learned to value music, and culture, and beauty.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 19:58:59 2012 No.2385552 File: 160 KB, 500x637, 1327154876021.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2385347 Tell me what I must do. Don't just damn me.

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 20:06:58 2012 No.2385564

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i said it, in >>2385426 i said it. hard work is important, but it's the underlying ethics that produce someone who values hard work that is more important. we have to create people who will just work hard naturally, because all the things they value will require hard work.

like we brought music and that's excellent because we can kind of see where we were and what changed. this guy said he's going to require his kids to learn two musical instruments. but what good is that going to do in a world where a child is constantly being bombarded by music? sure they'll be able to play beethoven's 9th whenever they feel like, but when they can turn the tv on or put their head phones and just listen to music whenever they please whats the point?

contrast that to 200 years ago when the only form of music that existed was the music that was being played right then and there by someone that knew how to play an instrument. you can see how the value system might begin to break down. so we have to teach the children how to appreciate the music again, but in this era, we first have to teach them an appreciation of the lack of music, before we can teach them the meaning of music again.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 20:28:59 2012 No.2385622 File: 499 KB, 500x249, 1319336896440.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >ITT: ASIANS ARE WRONG MAN WE NEED TO HAVE REVOLUTION. THEYRE JUST ROBOTS WITH NO CREATIVITY. HARD WORK IS A LIE~~~ Yeah, let me know how that goes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 20:31:58 2012 No.2385631 >>2385622 Do be fair, they do seem quite robotic, and that has never been the goal of the West.

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>>2385631
Yeah? What is the goal of the West?

The Kardashians? Jersey Shore? Sure seems a lot less robotic, bro. Look at the lifestyles promoted on the TV. Wake up and smell the roses. You have been led astray. I'm not going to get into Jewish conspiracies, but that TV is destroying your children.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 20:37:59 2012 No.2385646 >>2385636 Bro, I don't watch TV. No, the goal of the West is Plato, Beethoven, Edison, Einstein, Carlin... The East isn't defined by Hard Gay...

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 20:39:01 2012 No.2385655

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>Plato, Beethoven, Edison, Einstein, Carlin...

No, it isn't. Not anymore. Go talk to children. They don't know who those people are. I'm not talking about you. You're on /lit/ so obviously you have some semblance of an intellect. I'm talking about your generation. It's fucked. Completely fucked. I live in America and can see it everyday when I walk on the street.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 20:39:01 2012 No.2385656 >>2385622 race is not the issue, and anyway, looking into the future, we don't want to just raise up one race or nation, we want to bring all people in line.

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 20:41:01 2012 No.2385661

>>2385656
>we want to bring all people in line.

Do you honestly believe we will achieve this? Do you honestly believe Africa will improve itself through education and modernization? I think we've all been fed the lie that we can be equal and live in harmony and improve our lives together.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 20:41:01 2012 No.2385662 File: 56 KB, 407x599, end.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2385655 Get a load of this faggot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 20:42:01 2012 No.2385666 >>2385655 this isn't it either. intellectualism has always been for a small circle of the population. captcha 'cognitionem'

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 20:44:01 2012 No.2385671

>>2385666
>intellectualism has always been for a small circle of the population.

Hmmm.... why are some people so unevenly represented in the elite intellectual sphere? Why do East-Asian kids completely dominate higher education at all the elite schools in Australia, America, and Britain? I feel like we're dodging some hard truths here.

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 20:46:01 2012 No.2385682

>>2385661
i wouldn't condemn africa as a whole, it is an entire continent after all. and there is some good and there is some bad and focus a lot on the bad. i certainly don't think the american model will work in africa but i don't think the american model is working in america.

yes we have to be concerned about all people or else we will constantly be at war with ourselves as a species.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 20:47:02 2012 No.2385686 >>2385682 I wish I shared your optimism in the human race. :/

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 20:48:02 2012 No.2385688 >>2385682 american model(freedom) worked fine until we abandoned it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 20:49:02 2012 No.2385695 >>2385688 What did we abandon the American model for? What has replaced it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 20:51:01 2012 No.2385703 >>2385695 slavery to the jews

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 20:52:01 2012 No.2385704

>>2385671

Then read some IQ&Race research. EAs has a small advantage in IQ. At normal levels, this difference hardly makes a difference. But at the elite universities, there is a tough selection for IQ (and conscientiousness), so their advantage becomes relatively larger.

The same is true for blacks, except in the other direction and the disadvantage is much larger. About 1SD in the US. EAs have about 0.5SD advantage. The difference is about 2SD in Africa but it is unknown how large percentage of that one is genetic. Blacks in the US only have about 20% white genes, but score 1SD above blacks in Africa. So either a large amount of the disadvantage in IQ for blacks in Africa is not genetic (understandable, huge difference in nutrition). Or the genotypic IQ is not just additive but there is some complex relationship. That would be annoying, for eugenic purposes.

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See e.g.:
http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/pppl1.pdf

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 20:53:01 2012 No.2385711 >>2385703 Yep. Turn off the TV.

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 20:55:02 2012 No.2385716

>>2385686
oh no i'm extremely afraid for the future of humanity.

>>2385688
even the 1950's pastoral is excessive, and only worked because anyone less than middle class didn't own sh*t. if we build everyone on this planet a little house with a white picket fence there wouldn't be any room left for anything else.

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 20:58:01 2012 No.2385730

>>2385704
go back to /pol/. you wonder why we're having this conversation on /lit/? because if you have this conversation on /pol/ 90% of the thread turns into racial IQ research.

it's been a fruitful and thought provoking discussion so far, lets try to keep it that way.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 21:11:01 2012 No.2385767 I was certain America was mentally handicapped when they elected a nigger as president.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 21:14:01 2012 No.2385771 >>2385711 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFvT_qEZJf8

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 21:16:01 2012 No.2385776 >>2385767 To be fair, Obama was a law professor at Harvard and a Senator. I wouldn't consider him as representative of blacks in America. He is an EXTREME anomaly.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 21:20:01 2012 No.2385785 >>2385771 This was really good. Downloading Network right now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 21:26:02 2012 No.2385796 >>2385767 You'd rather have a cowboy again, redneck? >>2385776 You have to get rid of that mindset that "blacks" are a homogenic group. People are people. Not race, gender or whatever.

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 21:30:01 2012 No.2385798

>>2385796
You're right. 4chan is bad at brainwashing me into seeing groups as homogenous groups. Thanks for the advice. I'm going to go for a run and think about all the discussion in this thread. I think we can't change the system on a large scale, but we can each make an effort to raise our own children with the values that we feel are important. Revolution is unfeasible.

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 21:39:02 2012 No.2385809

>>2385796
>People are people. Not race, gender or whatever.

this is what liberals actually believe

>>2385776
He wasn't a law professor you idiot.

He was 100% affirmative action and politics which got him his acceptance, his degree, and then his job on some committee.

>>2385798
If you can't see that groups exist and work together for common gain based on universal animal instincts, then you are just a clueless fucking retard.

Anonymous Mon Feb 6 21:42:02 2012 No.2385816

>>2385798
i don't think it begins with children, it begins in the mind of the parent. the parent has to be what they want the child to be. this is what we ought to do: create our own bible. compile ancient and contemporary everyday wisdoms and say 'this is your life bible' we'll have the book of michael pollan so we don't have a bunch of fat f*cks running around pardon my french. and we'll have the book of foucault, and searle, and chomsky. and who else? dealing with everything, from cooking to cleaning to motorcycle maintenance. skills for life, that would otherwise be neglected, but if we wrap all together and call it 'the bible' people will consume with voracious appetite.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 21:46:02 2012 No.2385824 >>2385230 What painting is this? It's beautiful

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 6 21:46:02 2012 No.2385827 >>2385816 I like this.

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