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Is he supposed to be sympathetic?

>> No.23795568

>>23795559
The only sympathetic character in Paradise Lost is Belial
>I just wanna chill out

>> No.23795653

of course not

>> No.23795838

of course

>> No.23795857

What's with the eyes?

>> No.23795892

>>23795559
why is he doing the funny black man's dance?

>> No.23795915

>>23795857
Grace of gold
>>23795892
He is not

>> No.23795936

>>23795559
At the very least relatable. Humans are sinners after all. You are meant to see yourself in him, as well as your own sins, which are - covered by the complications and chaos of the world - not nearly as visible and "pure" (purely evil), but rather mixed with good intentions and plain weakness. That's what makes it so good. Even though Satan is purely evil, totally consumed by pride and totally cut off from God (goodness), you see alot of yourself in him.

>> No.23796052
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23796052

Hell is an allegory of Republicanism and parliamentary democracy (the demons literally assemble and discuss what's the best course to take in Book II); while Heaven is an allegory of stagnant monarchical dictatorship. It's clear Milton sympathized with the Devil Party (but not unknowingly like William Blake posited). 'Paradise Lost' is not really about Christianity, it's about the politics of Milton times first and foremost, it's a political allegory

>> No.23796057

Satan lost.

>> No.23796083

>>23795559
I think he is supposed to represent your shadow. Sympathetic to our evil tendencies of pride and jealousy.

>> No.23796096

>>23795892
>>23795915
Will somebody turn it into a tik tok so I can judge what is meant by this?

>> No.23796102

How much should I know about the Bible in order to enjoy reading Paradise Lost?

>> No.23796275

>>23795559
I think the fact that it describes him defying God knowing full well he will lose is pretty cool, when it describes him winding back for one final strike against God you almost root for him, he's like the underdog, then God repels him as could only happen and thats when he falls. Lucifers a cool guy, certainly a dickhead cunt, but we need him for free-will to exist.

>> No.23796347

>>23795559
Many of the romantics thought so but I doubt Milton intended to portray him that way

>> No.23796350

No, but he's more interesting and his reasoning is clearer than God's

>> No.23796645

>>23795559
No. He isn't sympathetic btw. It's pretty disturbing that some people find him to be.

>> No.23797573

>>23795559
Yes, Milton literally compares Satan to a Greek hero.

>> No.23797576

>>23796102
You don't need to know anything.

>> No.23797734

>>23796275
>we need him for free-will to exist.
oooof

>> No.23797919

>>23795936
Believe in hell and perhaps one day you shall end up there yourself.

>> No.23797952

>>23797919
good.

>> No.23798239

>>23797576
Thank you

>> No.23798535

>>23795568
Based!

He was my favourite fallen angel

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23798551

>>23795559
But I should ill become this Throne, O Peers,
And this Imperial Sov'ranty, adorn'd
With splendor, arm'd with power, if aught propos'd
And judg'd of public moment, in the shape
Of difficulty or danger could deterr
Mee from attempting. Wherefore do I assume
These Royalties, and not refuse to Reign,
Refusing to accept as great a share
Of hazard as of honour, due alike
To him who Reigns, and so much to him due
Of hazard more, as he above the rest
High honourd sits? Go therefore mighty Powers,
Terror of Heav'n, though fall'n; intend at home,
While here shall be our home, what best may ease
The present misery, and render Hell
More tollerable; if there be cure or charm
To respite or deceive, or slack the pain
Of this ill Mansion: intermit no watch
Against a wakeful Foe, while I abroad
Through all the Coasts of dark destruction seek
Deliverance for us all: this enterprize
None shall partake with me. Thus saying rose
The Monarch, and prevented all reply,
Prudent, least from his resolution rais'd
Others among the chief might offer now
(Certain to be refus'd) what erst they fear'd;
And so refus'd might in opinion stand
His Rivals, winning cheap the high repute
Which he through hazard huge must earn.