/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.2371285]

-Ulysses
-Infinte Jest

What else is /lit/ as fuck?

[Anonymous No.2371290]

>>2371285
She is an angel. i wonder if she reads.

[person !.avztqSy6I No.2371292]

2666 use to be. But then you plebs came along.

[Anonymous No.2371295]

The Stranger
Anything by Pinchon
Portnoy's Complaint
Hamlet
Faust
Crime and Punishment

[Anonymous No.2371298]

tao lin and finnigans wake

[Anonymous No.2371300]

Oh, that's right. On the road.

-Ulysses
-Infinte Jest
-On the road.

[Anonymous No.2371301]

>>2371295
tbh those are all great books. i think OP is jesting. Don't degrade those classics by incorporating them in with the joke.

[Anonymous No.2371304]

>>2371300
not really. most people on here don't appreciate the beats.

[Anonymous No.2371305]

pic is inaccurate.

-Ulysses
-Infinite Jest
-The Stranger
are 'discussed' most often.

[Anonymous No.2371311]

>>2371305
everyone but /lit/ knows finnigans wake, the pale king and the fall are better.

[Anonymous No.2371316]

Smoking is gross. I would rather a girl shit her pants.

[Anonymous No.2371321]

>>2371305

Not OP, but might I ask why? I'm somewhat new to /lit/, so what sets these books apart? Especially Ulysses, I see that one mentioned often.

[Anonymous No.2371333]

>>2371305
What's up with the amount of Irish authors, /lit/? I'm just getting into literature and the amount of them seems really disproportional

[person !.avztqSy6I No.2371334]

>>2371321
>Ulysses has been wanked over lit critics for almost 100 years.

That's why these plebs love it. Can't think for themselves. It has to be approved by University tutors before they like. Thus the dislike for contempory authors.

[Anonymous No.2371335]

[Anonymous No.2371337]

[person !.avztqSy6I No.2371339]

>>2371333
>when you live in poverty drinking and writing is all there is.

[Anonymous No.2371340]

>>2371334
>Infinite Jest and authors like Tao Lin get praised like there is no tomorrow
>"Dislike for contempory authors"
niggayoujustwentfullretard.jpg

[Anonymous No.2371344]

>>2371339
Thus Ireland and Russia

[Anonymous No.2371346]

>>2371334
A great deal of my university faculty have never read Ulysses. I talk about it with no-one. I hate literary criticism. I loved it.

FUK U

[Anonymous No.2371348]

>>2371321
Extensively paraphrased tints of philosophy splashed through hundred of pages disguised as a social comment presented as an ironic statement. Perhaps, I could be mistaken. I've never read Ulysses nor Infinite Jest.

Not to mention that /lit/ has been largely poluted by Scotts, and their opinion and taste should be thought separately Scott LIT and non-Scot LIT users. I don't normally read anything writen by Jews, now I guess I shall add the Irish and the Scotts as well. For my own safety.

[Anonymous No.2371351]

>>2371348

fuck off wyndham lewis

[Anonymous No.2371373]

I honestly much prefer contemporary authors of the last 100 years to what has come before. I understand why the classics are classics, but they don't have the same impact on me as a book that grapples with the world as I know it.

[Anonymous No.2371383]

>>2371373
At large I agree. I'd never read something like the Canterburry Tales, but authors like Dostoevsky or Wilde are still worth a read today...
Extend that time period to the last 200 years and I'm with you.

[Anonymous No.2371388]

>>2371383

You should try reading The Divine Comedy, Metamorphoses, Shakespeare, The Odyssey and Iliad and Paradise Lost

That's basically all the "old" literature you need.

[Anonymous No.2371393]

>>2371383
Sure. 200 years, why not? I don't mean that I don't go back and read the classics. But I'm reading the classics for context as to what my contemporaries are drawing on to make their own art.

Literature IS improving overtime. This is my belief.

[Anonymous No.2371406]

I've noticed that /lit/core is kind of cyclic, like, for instance, right now The Great Gatsby and Crime and Punishment seem to be in vogue. I imagine that all it takes is one person to read a book and make a bit of noise about it here, then others start to pick it up and read it and contribute to the noise, and all of a sudden we've got a full blown epidemic on our hands.

Although, Ulysses, Infinite Jest and Gravity's Rainbow will never go out of fashion around here. 2666's reputation has been damaged a bit by its association to Sunhawk, I think.

[Anonymous No.2371410]

>>2371340
>Tao Lin
>praised

uhhh, what?

[Anonymous No.2371413]

>>2371393
I would say it was until the invention of modern media. 19th and early 20th century presented us with things so ridiculously glorious compared to what came afterwards. Then everybody tuned in the the radio and tv and computer. Maybe the next would be Nietsche spends his time on /lit/ arguing, whilst Proust makes a sad frog topic on /r9k/.

[Anonymous No.2371416]

>>2371388
You've forgotten The Canterbury Tales and Don Quixote, but otherwise this is a good list.

[Anonymous No.2371419]

>>2371406

>>2371406

>McCarthy, Faulkner, Hemmingway, and Kafka grouped with the rest of those schlemiels
>noiwillnotdealwithit.jpg

[Anonymous No.2371421]

>>2371416

I did not realise that Don Quixote is 400 years old. I thought it was Mid 1700s.

[Anonymous No.2371425]

>>2371406

>American Psycho
>Pleb tier

Awww. I really like that book. Mainly as a satire.

[Anonymous No.2371431]

>>2371406
>Makurami
>Demigod tier

wat

[Anonymous No.2371433]

>>2371388
>>2371416
The Bible?

[Anonymous No.2371451]

>>2371413
Honestly, I can't wait to read and write our generation's experience on the internet. The hipsters in New York haven't really captured it satisfactorily for me, yet. It's really the end of loneliness.

I mean, when I feel like I can't find anyone to discuss some esoteric interest of mine, I go onto 4chan and find, like, 40 similarly minded people to have a lively discussion. It's utterly astounding what this does to my growth as an individual, to *not* feel so isolated.

I have real friends, but they're all just typical pleb drinking dumbasses who go out to clubs and bars and talk about vaginas and pot. I would have long ago lost hope in pursuing knowledge if I had not been able to find a community of likeminded learners and readers like you guys.

I would not be going on to higher education and becoming an attorney in 3 years time if it was not for this community. I would also not be a current private teacher with the interests that I picked up from the people I've met on here. Pretty strange to be saying that.

[Anonymous No.2371465]

>>2371451

Well, you just put a fair dent in my pessimism, thank you. In a way we are indeed the most interesting generation as of yet.

The integration of modern technology and communication devices into fiction would be very interesting if it is done in the right way. I have the idea that a lot of people rather not write about such things, since they grew up with the literature of former generations and therefore don't associate their gadget filled life with the cool brooding anti-hero's of the past.

But they should. Kerouac wrote about cars as the great thing of his age, which they of course where. Maybe someone should write some sort of 'On the Web'

[Anonymous No.2371469]

>>2371451
i don't think it's the end of loneliness

it is fascinating, though, i mean it's really interesting stuff, but at the same time i have no wish to see it portrayed through art, because i feel like any such portrayal is going to be totally unbearable & smug & shitty

[Anonymous No.2371486]

>>2371465
>Maybe someone should write some sort of 'On the Web'

They have been... but I haven't read anything good yet. Mostly just "lol how dark and edgy and underground" and usually concluding with "and that's why we don't replace real relationships with digital ones."

I feel like the writers who tackle the internet need to get over their McLuhan-esque kneejerk reactionary attitude towards this medium and embrace it. I'm not limited by my geography anymore. That's insane to think about. 40 years ago, they had the plane, but that was expensive and limited and tiring. Now I can travel the world from my desk.

I think we're all a little jaded because Google has made our lives so incredibly connected and rich in information, but sit back and think about what has become possible the last 10 years. And then think about what's coming down the pipeline. Our lives are going to be pretty insane, man.

[Anonymous No.2371504]

>>2371290
No, she's clearly scum.

[Anonymous No.2371521]

>>2371486
Agreed. The "and that's why we don't replace real relationships with digital ones" mentality is what needs to go before whatever comes next in literature comes. In many cases, digital is even better, because typing allows for more coherent conversations in general, especially in large groups. The problem is that sort of thing is hard to write. Just using chatlogs seems a little tacky in printed form.

Miss the days when I had regular groups of IRC friends and such though.

[Anonymous No.2371552]

>>2371486
>I think we're all a little jaded because Google has made our lives so incredibly connected and rich in information, but sit back and think about what has become possible the last 10 years. And then think about what's coming down the pipeline. Our lives are going to be pretty insane, man.

Yes, there are a lot of interesting things happening. And technology still seems to be improving faster and faster. Ten years ago I had a computer that was less powerful then my phone is now, and it had shittier internet too. Not to mention that it was a couple hundred times as large.

I think the present transhumanist movement is very interesting for literature too, especially the ones who try to incorporate technology in the most complete and efficient way instead of just talking about it.

There's also a small but noticable subculture of minimalists, some that go as far to own nothing more than a backpack of stuff. Not like Kerouac and his Dharma Bum friends, but like digital nomads who carry a powerful laptop and smartphone with them and can work from everywhere thanks to the internet.

[The Importance of Being On Time and Being !dAqyKvNZuA No.2371566]

>>2371504
She's clearly a scum angel.

[Anonymous No.2371567]

>>2371504
but her skin is so smooth.

[Anonymous No.2371569]

>>2371552
>There's also a small but noticable subculture of minimalists, some that go as far to own nothing more than a backpack of stuff. Not like Kerouac and his Dharma Bum friends, but like digital nomads who carry a powerful laptop and smartphone with them and can work from everywhere thanks to the internet.

So cool. It speaks to what the internet does to geography. It just obliterates its relevance (in some very few lucky parts of the world that happen to be hooked up to hi-speed access and affluent).

The world is smaller than it has ever been before. You need look no further than that thread that popped up last night where you had a half-Mexican boy asking for our help translating a pickup line into Japanese for a cute half-Mexican girl who was obsessed with Japanese culture. They both live in a border town down South. How INSANE is that?

[Anonymous No.2371576]

Now I'm all enthusiastic and want to read stories about the glorious internet generation.

Any recommendations, post-geographical hive mind?

[Anonymous No.2371577]

>>2371567

Smooth as a baseball glove.

[Anonymous No.2371589]

ITT: delusional loners

no communication can ever contain such powerful intensity as face-to-face contact with no medium between our senses. why do you think even hardcore advocates of the digital age go to conferences IN FUCKING PERSON!

also, ever tried to startle someone in conversation with the motions of your hands when skyping without being ridiculous? daring them by the intensity of your stare? get excited by the curl of a lip and the slight trembling of a sweaty hand? convincing a group not just with the reason of the argument but with the roar of conviction?

this is why you will always remain at the bottom: you can not stand the stress of full sensory communication, you are an evolutionary misfire

[Anonymous No.2371596]

>>2371589

[Anonymous No.2371597]

>>2371589
you are a fucking sociopath, dude

you are the reason people take refuge in the digital realm. or decide to gun down their fellow students.

[Anonymous No.2371599]

>>2371577
well personally i think that picture has a classy hollywood appeal. perfect and petite yet with a rebellious streak

[Anonymous No.2371603]

>>2371599

Hanging out on the streets at night smoking weed isn't classy.

[Anonymous No.2371607]

>>2371576
Hmmm... so far, the stuff that I like the most is the pre-Internet cyberpunk that forecasts, surprisingly accurately, our current technology.

If you've not read Gibson's Sprawl trilogy and Bigend trilogy, do so. They're not hopeful, but they speak admiringly of the net. That's definitely a move in the right direction.

On the very other end of the spectrum, go look up The Singularity is Near by Ray Kurzweil. It's a look at what transhumanists want the future to be. It's pretty exciting. (Immortality, or at least drastically extended lives)

[Anonymous No.2371612]

>>2371603
>Pleb detected
Oh it certainly is classy.

[Anonymous No.2371613]

>>2371603
those circumstances are forced entirely by the social environment she was born into as well as the current condition of drug laws. Ignore the pillars of whatever parking lot or modernist monstrosity is behind her and it is classy.

[Anonymous No.2371628]

>>2371321
Ulysses is a book absolutely filled to the brim with literary devices and little intricacies that you wouldn't normally notice.

The plot could be summed up on a post it note and it's only moderately interesting to read at face value, the book is really about the attention to detail. Things like a section about a pregnancy which is arranged in nine paragraphs with sentences being trimesters make up the real reason people read it.

[The Importance of Being On Time and Being !dAqyKvNZuA No.2371636]

>>2371613
If by
>modernist monstruo
you mean of course the full weight of a death-obsessed culture, narcotized beyond rehabilitation and bored beyond excess; stunned by its own self-reflexive hedonism, itself some part of its own turgid subbeing, inebriated to and within and despite the death-embrace; metaselfcommercialized: the antiseptic, faux anti-synthesis of the smoke and skin, playing in aesthetic dualism beyond the hyperreal but bearing down, in parallel, to some subprimal intraJungian level, then yes, I agree.

[Anonymous No.2371647]

>>2371612
>>2371613

>Deluded smokers trying to justify their filthy habit detected.
We're not living in '50s anymore, smoking isn't classy, it's disgusting.

[Anonymous No.2371648]

>>2371589
>reads about peoples praising the advantages modern technology as brought
>goes on an angry rant about how it isn't the same as something else

Someone like you was probably around at the invention of correspondence, the telegraph, the telephone et cetera.

The internet has greatly enriched my personal life, both online and face to face. I've met a lot of interesting people that I've otherwise never would've known about.

If you use the internet correctly it can seamlessly integrate into the rest of your life. It is a tool and a glorious one at that. Especially now that we're getting over the whole 'lol internet is for nerds lol computers get a life' phase. People are now acting hip as fuck meeting people in coffeeshops that they've gotten to know through some twitter conversation about their great passion for Italian cheese or something. People get to create friendships on the basis of mutual interests instead of circumstance. It's a brave new world, and your part of it, putting on a "too cool to be online" attitude on 4chan.

>>2371607
Thanks man. I'm already reading Neuromancer and enjoying it a lot. I've also read some things and have seen a documentary on Kurzweil, but your post reminds me that I should read his actual work.

[Anonymous No.2371644]

>>2371636
Oh shit son

I read that garbage post and understood your meaning right up until subprimal intraJungian level

Is this good

please reply

[Anonymous No.2371662]

>>2371612
Classy women smoke their cannabis in the privacy and comfort of their classy apartments, not under a bridge wearing huge shitty plastic earrings whilst being fifteen years old.

[Anonymous No.2371665]

>>2371647
You keep telling yourself that.

[Anonymous No.2371670]

>>2371662
She's wearing an engagement ring...

[Anonymous No.2371678]

>>2371670
Probably got knocked up by her boyfriend (who has a bad ass ride!!) who got pressured in putting a ring on her.

[Anonymous No.2371684]

>>2371662
You finding 15 year olds attractive does not make every attractive woman 15 years old.

[Anonymous No.2371716]

Poor Yanks smoking weed in the street corner, shitty cannabis culture. She might as well be sucking down a 40.

[Anonymous No.2372072]

>>2371316

It would be so hot if she did both!!!

[Anonymous No.2372091]

having ulysses & infinite jest mentioned in the same light really sickens me

[Anonymous No.2372101]

>>2372072
Touché