/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.23696782]

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Previous Thread: >>23683292

[Anonymous No.23696834]

>>23696782
Do people here actually read books?

[Anonymous No.23696840]

>>23696834
In this gen or on /lit/ as a whole?

[Anonymous No.23696846]

>>23696834
I listen to fiction as audiobooks.

[Anonymous No.23696850]

>>23696846
grim

[Anonymous No.23696852]

See when STEM professors write sci-fi and has a distinctive feel? Many in-deep descriptions, almost like they are writing a thesis on their pet hypothesis.
Well, are there *fantasy* books written by STEM professors?

[Anonymous No.23696853]

>>23696846
No shame in that.

Benefit of the audiobooks is that narrator's performance adds character.

[Anonymous No.23696876]

>>23696850
I save my eyesight for non-fiction and academic stuff.

[Anonymous No.23696897]

>>23696876
>I save my eyesight for non-fiction and academic stuff

[Anonymous No.23696938]

>Novel ends with the mc getting the mcguffin he spent the entire novel searching for only for it to lead him to another mcguffin in another city.
Novel was decent but this ruined it entirely for me.

[Anonymous No.23696943]

>>23696834
No, only read audiobooks

[Anonymous No.23696978]

>>23696846
Me too, makes working bearable.

[Anonymous No.23697062]

>>23696938
It should've been obvious that's how it was going to go. That's how the entire series will go, for however many books it is.

[Anonymous No.23697099]

>>23696846
Check out The Sixth House Book Club: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0-uZCCvOgRSpvbHlB64VM-raGOEhdWNg
Lovecraft/etc read by Dagoth Ur.

[Anonymous No.23697105]

>>23696938
>the princess is in another castle
lol

[Anonymous No.23697156]

>>23696938
modern writing is just fucking plate spinning

[Anonymous No.23697170]

First for Bakker
Bakker is King.

[Anonymous No.23697225]

[Anonymous No.23697321]

should I get The Black Company (single novel) or Chronicles of the Black Company (which contains three novels of the black company)?
I want to know if its worth to read the entire series and not only the first one because yknow, fantasy novel, especially any trilogy fantasy, tend to get weaker after the first installment

[Anonymous No.23697345]

>>23696834
I've read over 800 books. Some consider that a lot some consider it a pittance.
These are my sff favorites.

>The Time Machine
>Conan
>The Hobbit
>Titus Groan
>The Broken Sword
>The Stars My Destination
>Solaris
>Dune
>Lord of Light
>A Wizard of Earthsea
>Swords and Deviltry
>The Forever War
>The Shadow of the Torturer
>Fevre Dream
>Neuromancer
>Bridge of Birds
>Ender's Game
>Assassin's Apprentice
>A Game of Thrones
>The Darkness That Comes Before
>Black Leopard, Red Wolf
>Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind
>Berserk
>Moore's Saga of Swamp Thing
>Morrison's Doom Patrol
>Lovecraft's Tales of Horror and the Macabre
>Borges Labyrinths
>Dick Selected Short Stories
>Moorcock's Swords Trilogy
>Jack Vance Treasury
>John Crowley's Otherwise
>The Very Best of Fantasy and Science Fiction Sixtieth Anniversary Anthology

[Anonymous No.23697359]

>>23696852
No but the equivalent would be Tolkein and Bakker, also professors writing thesis novels

[Anonymous No.23697373]

>13 years waiting for TWOW
What can I read to wash the taste of disappointment and inconclusiveness out of my mouth?

[Anonymous No.23697379]

There's a daily storytime of The Saga of Darren Shan's manga adaptation.
>>>/a/269885613
We are now at Chapter 16 (roughly around the third book of the series), but OP has the previous and the next chapters, in case you are interested :D

[Anonymous No.23697393]

>>23683292
>>23683292
>>23683292
Old

[Anonymous No.23697404]

>>23697345
Your hugo reader's award is in the mail

[Anonymous No.23697422]

>>23696834
I do. It's why I have so little in common with these threads anymore. People here either don't read, or they only read dreadful webnovel crap. Actual novel readers are vanishingly rare on /lit/ as a whole, not just /sffg/.

[Anonymous No.23697424]

>>23697321
I would recommend giving the first trilogy a shot.

Since The Black Company is made up of two trilogies and a quadrilogy, you have to think of the quality a little differently.

The first novel starts off a tad clumsily written, but gets better as it goes on. As you said, any series gets weaker with age, and this is no different. This first trilogy is the best The Black Company has to offer, and many fans argue it goes to shit when they go South. It's kind of like Dune, you either continue reading or know how much you can handle and bow out.

[Anonymous No.23697430]

>>23697424
so its chronicles of black company then?

[Anonymous No.23697446]

>>23697430
That is what I would recommend.
If you want to experience The Black Company it's all you'll need. Unless you're curious after finishing the first trilogy, then the rest is up to you.

[Anonymous No.23697464]

>>23697422
what is wrong with webnovels?

[Anonymous No.23697482]

>>23697446
alright thanks anon, I'll get the chronicles then

[Anonymous No.23697502]

>>23697422
Almost no one on /lit/ reads, not now nor ten years ago.
This is obvious because people while several authors are memed a lot, you never see people discuss their actual works or stuff that isn't in the wikipedia page of their works. For example, Forbidden Colors by Mishima has a ton of paragraphs that can be memed or become shitpost material, but no one ever brings them up. And the discussion never goes beyond whether he was gay because most of his books have an incomplete summary on wikipedia, so one actuallyknows what reallyhappens in those books.

[Anonymous No.23697509]

Haven't been able to post in /sffg/ in a few months. What are the current memes that I should be aware of?

[Anonymous No.23697517]

>>23697502
my personal stance used to be that this is the only thread on /lit/ where people are more than 50% likely to have actually read what they're posting about.

[Anonymous No.23697527]

>>23697502
>>23697517
Then why are you here? Fuck off and leave us non-readers in peace from your incessant crybaby bullshit posts.

[Anonymous No.23697535]

>>23697527
I am the shining light of this thread simply because I dare to tell people that some books are good

[Anonymous No.23697542]

>>23697535
But your recs are never lit?

[Anonymous No.23697584]

opinions?
Just finished reading it, fantastic

[Anonymous No.23697600]

>>23697584
I thought it was pretty good but the thing about travelling through time to find your family members are now forced to be gay was kind of weird

[Anonymous No.23697601]

>>23697584
>our cover is going to be some guy wearing a helmet and SPAACE

[Anonymous No.23697624]

>>23695504
Pls comment on the idea

[Anonymous No.23697628]

>>23697345
>Solaris
I remember this being more psychological rather than straight sci-fi. I thought it was refreshing.

[Anonymous No.23697676]

>>23697624
scientists would be baffled, but normal people would likely go nuts with conspiracy theories, basically
>no way this is a sudden change, this has all just been kept from us and they're trying to pass it off as new
>there's some cabal that's been hoodwinking the world on science and the truth for some reason

[Anonymous No.23697684]

>>23696852
Malazan

[Anonymous No.23697700]

>>23697624
I really like the premise, would definitely be interested in reading. Also I agree with what this other anon pointed out >>23697676

[Anonymous No.23697716]

>>23697600
I think the theme of the book it's alienation, and for my taste it worked at that purpose

[Anonymous No.23697725]

>>23697373
The broken sword
The mask of the sorcerer
The Deep

all one book and done. This is why you shouldn't read series.

[Anonymous No.23697726]

>>23697225
>In the not-so-distant future, technology
stopped reading lol

[Anonymous No.23697824]

>>23697726
gets it pilled

[Anonymous No.23697911]

>>23697725
First two are really really good. I think I got filtered by The Deep, though

[Anonymous No.23697912]

>>23697584
Honestly just looks like a shitty picture of a cover of some book

[Anonymous No.23697969]

>>23697584
it's great and the dynamics of stepping forward in time fit so well

>>23697716
this is also true i think. it's not just that it fits, sci fi writers of that era were thinking about stuff and putting things that for their time were weird but plausible in their books. that's why they often put gays and lots of women in power and eating bugs and such in the background

[Anonymous No.23698033]

>>23697601
>>23697912
enjoy the original hardback cover

[Anonymous No.23698115]

Do I need to read The Sunlit Man before Stormlight 5?

[Anonymous No.23698119]

>>23698115
It takes place sometime in the far distant future. No, you don't.

[Anonymous No.23698150]

Look at this shit. This is what you get for trusting publishers in 2024 and not just stealing everything from anus archive.

[Anonymous No.23698169]

>>23698150
damn so this is the western literature superior to chinese webnovels I've heard so much about

[Anonymous No.23698186]

>>23698150
This type of errors never fail to take me out of the story for a few seconds.

[Anonymous No.23698193]

>>23696852
Mark Lawrence has a degree in physics and holds a PhD in mathematics.[2]

[Anonymous No.23698195]

>>23698150
wow what an avant-garde nonlinear narrative, definitely an author to watch

[Anonymous No.23698279]

Should I reread a random xianxia novel or one piece?

[Anonymous No.23698319]

>>23698279
>>>/a/

[Anonymous No.23698424]

Anyone read this one?

[Anonymous No.23698444]

>>23697345
i loved solaris
i read rendezvous with rama based on my enjoyment of solaris, but found it rather lacking despite the interesting premise
do you have any recs?
>>23698150
is this AI?

[Anonymous No.23698447]

>>23698424
no but i read the precuel Submission, it's really good

[Anonymous No.23698456]

>>23698424
yanks should at least have the decency to set their racial paranoia stories in their own continent

[Anonymous No.23698500]

What's the closest thing to The Hobbit that isn't Ocarina of Time?

[Anonymous No.23698527]

>>23698500
Game of Thrones

[Anonymous No.23698544]

Reading this now. Pure DF kino except that NTR part with prince of arrow. Anything cool in genre like this?

[Anonymous No.23698565]

Did the Loa need Angie to just get them into the aleph?
Why even go through with the whole plot if the Loa could just contact people via TV or telephone like Wintermute did in Neuromancer?
How did the Finn get inside the Aleph?
How did Angie know Mona was doing alright as her replacement if the aleph was disconnected from the net?
How did 3Jane give orders to her goons if the aleph was disconnected from the net?
How were they going to contact the Alpha Centauri AI if the aleph was disconnected from the net?
What was the point of Marly's arc in Count Zero if she had no effect on the Jammer's situation?

[Anonymous No.23698575]

>>23697422
>can only discuss the most popular five webnovels
>can only discuss the most popular five published novels
This general fucking blows either way. Worse than Reddit.

[Anonymous No.23698609]

>>23696782
looking for writers like Rod Serling, Charles Beaumont, and Harlan Ellison, edgy 1950s/1960s new wavers whos short stories wouldnt be out of place in an episode of the twilight zone or a jack kirby comic.

[Anonymous No.23698642]

The Broken Sword is a one and done, right? Just ordered a copy.
What are some other recommended one and dones? I'm just not in the mood to start a series right now.

[Anonymous No.23698644]

>>23698319
Both xianxia and onepiece are literature. Unless you think /lit/ means dead white men and nyt stamp of jewproval.

[Anonymous No.23698648]

>>23698575
THEN GO BACK
PLEASE
HOLY SHIT >>>>>>>>>/r/eddit

[Anonymous No.23698663]

>>23698648
But I was here before /lit/ existed and Reddit was popular.

[Anonymous No.23698699]

Just finished transcoding 22GB to 5GB with visually lossless compared with the source jpg. 1370x2160 8bit color, 1400x2160 til volume 22.
(psa: You can get 20x or better compression on visually similar files I had a one gig cg doujin compress to 30M visually losslessly, you know the ones were it's the same image with a minor layer change, but for normal manga and doujins it's better if they are all separate images as that's better supported) if you Ready to start reading.
What am I in for?

[Anonymous No.23698725]

>>23696846
based fellow audiobook enjoyer

[Anonymous No.23698731]

>>23696782
"I haven't heard much about this book, but the premise seems interesting."
Who's going to tell him?

[Anonymous No.23698800]

>>23697099
I have no idea why, but Dagoth Ur's voice is perfect for the audiobook narration. Wes Johnson is really missing out on not narrating books.

[Anonymous No.23698818]

>>23698731
The premise of long hard black dicks forcefully entering middle aged male anus?

[Anonymous No.23698825]

>>23698731
I've only read the first volume and it's not that bad at all. Sure, you've got a couple of rapes and the black ooze cum but there's nothing THAT bad.

[Anonymous No.23698828]

>>23698150
What the fuck are you bitching about

[Anonymous No.23698834]

>>23698828
Nevermind I spotted it.

[Anonymous No.23698840]

Found the holy grail today.

[Anonymous No.23698849]

>finished the Neverwinter saga
fuck you Dahlia

[Anonymous No.23698879]

>>23698840
resellers kinda ruined charity shops for me, now they price everything up because they know people will just whack it on ebay if they don't

[Anonymous No.23698984]

>>23698150
>Titzit Fartal
the fuck are with these retarded names

[Anonymous No.23698992]

>>23696782
I find it fascinating when the author doesn't give a map, so the fans have to make their own map on the breadcrumbs the author gives in the story.

[Anonymous No.23698997]

>>23698992
Forgot pic

[Anonymous No.23699027]

Are there any good podcasts or things like radio shows that are this genre? Every list I’ve read makes them all sound full of faggotry, and I can’t tell if it is the writer doing that, or if the actual podcast is like that. I need something to kill time while I am at work.

[Anonymous No.23699046]

>>23698840
jelly

[Anonymous No.23699116]

>>23698840
>tfw bought this when it was new but still haven't read it

[Anonymous No.23699142]

>>23698992
I think it's cool when the author is a cartographer on the side and draw their own maps. I've only seen this once

[Anonymous No.23699148]

>>23698992
I support this approach, mainly because I feel like map fussiness often comes from being a DM and a 'worldbuilder' rather than a writer

[Anonymous No.23699274]

>>23698456
>(((paranoia)))

[Anonymous No.23699331]

>>23696834
Yeah I'm reading Wheel of Time right now
chapter 17 of crown of swords.
Why would I be here otherwise?

[Anonymous No.23699382]

>>23699331
>Why would I be here otherwise?
Everybody here is shill their own writing because everyone is aspiring sci-fi writer.

[Anonymous No.23699412]

>>23698849
I have read 2 books in the tetralogy and Dahlia was already a bitch.
I began to read about Drizzt's adventures in 2004, and nowadays the worst part of it is that there are no nostalgic vibes anymore. I loved when they returned to Icewind Dale in the previous trilogy. That was NICE.

[Anonymous No.23699474]

>>23699412
I'm just starting with 'The Companions'
thus far there was only like one book
>spine of the world
which I skipped
it's a confusing start with sudden jumps into the past
also I'm kind of annoyed with Drizzt and Jarlaxle, clinging to their past human 'companions' like glue, or like gum stuck to the underside of a shoe
Entreri just won't die

[Anonymous No.23699581]

>>23696782
Finished the first Belgariad book. So is Polgara just going to be an insufferable cunt for the rest of the series? Farm Aunt Pol was such a superior waifu it's not even funny. If by the end of this Belgarath doesn't turn her into a frog it will have been for nothing.

[Anonymous No.23699586]

[Anonymous No.23699662]

>>23698444
In terms of exploring the utterly alien I can't really think of anything that measures up to Solaris. A Matter for Men is an invasion story thats quite creepy and very alien, it's the start of a series, I've only read the first one. The Mote in God's Eye ain't bad, it's aliens are rather strange. Ringworld is fun, also a big alien artifact that's quite mysterious (tho all mysteries are boringly resolved in the sequels). Gateway might do it for you.

If you want more general big idea scifi The End of Eternity and The Time Ships are two of my favorites if you're into time travel.

[Anonymous No.23699666]

>>23698150
Wtf is this?

[Anonymous No.23699671]

>>23698575
>Worse than Reddit.
Nice try, redditor. You're not getting my updoot.

[Anonymous No.23699739]

>finally read game of thrones, good shit
>look up what else the old man has written
>tuf voyaging
>i do love me some sci-fi
>main character talks like a complete fag
>about to drop the book but keep going
>tuf's way of talking grows on me
>will finish the book this week
don't think i will keep the book but it was a trip

[Anonymous No.23699991]

>>23698169
slop of one kind does not negate slop of another kind, this sucks and so does chink shit

[Anonymous No.23700007]

[Anonymous No.23700022]

>>23696846
I listen to audiobooks while I work. Managed to churn through quite a few books that have been on the reading list for a while doing so.

[Anonymous No.23700039]

>>23700007
His skin is exposed, idiot AI renderer.

[Anonymous No.23700058]

>>23700039
oh, i didn't see the movie, i only read the book

[Anonymous No.23700089]

>>23697345
>Black Leopard, Red Wolf
what can i expect from this?

[Anonymous No.23700093]

>>23700039
the joke's on you, i already read the next dune book, it was written by AI, i didn't have to wait for the legacy authors. it was quite good.

[Anonymous No.23700138]

>>23698642
>>23697725

[Anonymous No.23700156]

>>23700093
>it was written by AI
I hope we are heading into the Dune world direction of destroying robots

[Anonymous No.23700191]

>>23700156
the telepathic robots have arrived

[Anonymous No.23700199]

>>23696782
Is it weird I like fantasy politics, but I'm bored by HEMA? I don't give a fuck about how "cool" MC's sword is.

[Anonymous No.23700248]

>>23700199
why can't people make a "historical" show with accurate costuming, demographics, etc

[Anonymous No.23700381]

i'm halfway through pandora's star and the amount of sex is getting ridiculous. it seems every single character has a partner and for each of them we get several paragraphs detailing how their actual partner is and how hot they are, and often descriptions of their past relationships. and every woman is strong, young and beautiful, the one exception being a girl who is too young so she is a a bit dumb and innocent, but on the other hand she is even more beautiful than everyone else as the narrator reminds you every single fucking time she enters a scene

honestly this book could have been a fifth of the pages it is, i'm getting kinda tired of it

[Anonymous No.23700400]

>>23700248
>accurate costuming
It drives me insane when the show is supposed to set in 8th century and soldier wear 16th-century burgonet helmets. It's like if WW2 wore tricorns.

>demographics
Right? No matter if the historical is animated or live-action there seems to be so many elderly extras and very few children.
Historically, 33% of the population was generally children, and an even smaller percentage would be elderly.

[Anonymous No.23700406]

>>23700381
What even is the point of sex scenes?

[Anonymous No.23700491]

>>23700400
Child actors, even extras, are difficult to work with because of labor laws which restrict how many hours per day they can work. It requires special scheduling around their limited hours and a lot of directors simply don't want to bother with it just for extras.

[Anonymous No.23700503]

>>23700491
get dwarves

[Anonymous No.23700514]

>>23700058
His skin isn't exposed in the book, fagget. How do you expect his still suit to capture sweat if he has parts exposed?

[Anonymous No.23700556]

>>23700248
Marketing types believe audiences will react negatively if the costumes don't match popular assumptions about what an era looked like. E.g. if you put Achilles in period-accurate armor he would look goofy as fuck and normies might not be able to take him seriously.

[Anonymous No.23700677]

>>23698840
check the first page of chapter 25 for >>23698150

[Anonymous No.23700762]

[Anonymous No.23700774]

>>23698544
>NTR
again?
What IS with western authors and cuckshit?

[Anonymous No.23700804]

>>23700400
I'd love a WWII film with the historical accuracy of the average pre-renaissance film

>soviets wearing imperial Russian uniforms
>muricans are 'Nam era GIs
>all german troops dress like the SS because the director thought it looked cooler
>no trenches, no artillery, everyone stands in a single row and hip fires Vickers
>B-2s weave past barrage balloons to bomb Dresden, Ohio
>Jewish Hitler fights to his last breath for Israel

[Anonymous No.23700805]

Any good gladiator series? Been rewatching Spartacus and got me in the mood for something similar

[Anonymous No.23700815]

>>23700138
Oh dang didn't see that post. Thanks, anon.

[Anonymous No.23700837]

I judged a book entirely by its cover and few dips into the archive. Literally what the fuck am I in for? The opening pages are exactly what the cover looks like so I got my worth from it.

[Anonymous No.23701027]

>>23700837
is that Wojack?

[Anonymous No.23701056]

The enlightentened scientist mages vs ignorant stupid poopydummyhead church in Throne of Magical Arcana is really annoying. It'd be a lot more interesting if it reflected the history of science in the real world: You have some very devout religious people pushing the envelop of science, you have some really retarded mystics pushing alchemy and shit, you have some people who question church doctrine doing stuff, you have devout worshippers who are trying to stop the process, etc.

[Anonymous No.23701081]

Didn't one of you faggots post this cover a while back asking about our thoughts?

[Anonymous No.23701109]

>>23701081
>>/lit/thread/23453305#p23453741

[Anonymous No.23701122]

>>23701056
>You have some very devout religious people pushing the envelop of science
Almost always in defiance of the religious authorities. They only contributed to science in spite of religion, not because of it. I always laugh when people try to point to the "Islamic golden age" as if all those Islamic scholars weren't censured as heretics by their imams.

[Anonymous No.23701161]

Formation-fag from a few threads back might enjoy World of Cultivation. I'm a little over 100 chapters and MC has stumbled into formations. He is in the first big obligatory tournament and is currently shocking all the people because he is of the lowest cultivation but he's putting down an xboxhueg formation that is like a 1x2x7x6x12 monstrosity.

[Anonymous No.23701176]

>>23701122
Incorrect.

[Anonymous No.23701185]

>>23699581
she gets a bit better after she gets herself a man iirc

[Anonymous No.23701197]

>>23699662
i wasn't expecting so many recs, thanks anon. i'll give them all a try starting with gateway and ringworld, then your time travel recs.

[Anonymous No.23701252]

>>23698992
>>23698997
If by fascinating you mean retarded. If the author doesn't give a map it's cause there is no map to give retard.

[Anonymous No.23701276]

>>23701252
The Witcher author didn't give a map, right?

[Anonymous No.23701283]

>>23698544
the last part where they go to some cave, finding AI slop technology and discovering big weapon warehouse are boring to me. what do you think of that part?

[Anonymous No.23701296]

>>23701276
Why do you think I would know or care about ya slopa?

[Anonymous No.23701384]

>>23700381
Hamilton is a garbage author.

[Anonymous No.23701430]

Went to my local library and checked out a bunch of Asimov, including Foundation, I Robot, and a collection of short stories. Starting Foundation tonight.

[Anonymous No.23701437]

>>23700381
No no definitely power through this one, there is some pretty cool shit later on when the ship gets to the dyson sphere

[Anonymous No.23701565]

I will now read your book.

[Anonymous No.23701568]

>>23701565
holy based

[Anonymous No.23701577]

>>23701565
The name of the student? Albert Einstein.

[Anonymous No.23701580]

the part where new witches get initiated with Allah's dildo made me lol

[Anonymous No.23701633]

>>23701580
in a based or cringe way?

[Anonymous No.23701641]

>>23701580
Why do foids think demons are less believable than women getting raped? On the contrary, the more demons, the more likely.

[Anonymous No.23701645]

>>23701565
>let people enjoy things chud
>WAIT NOT THAT THING

[Anonymous No.23701652]

recommending the smut webnovel City of Witches
good smut, decent story plot, characters are actually explored, even had some worldbuilding. having plot characters and worldbuilding is very rare for this type of webnovel

also looking for other smut webnovel recs

[Anonymous No.23701660]

>>23701565
>Women are described as only being complete when they are "used by a man"
Why praise used goods?

[Anonymous No.23701669]

>>23701633
extremely based

[Anonymous No.23701693]

>>23699581
>So is Polgara just going to be an insufferable cunt for the rest of the series?
Yes, she and Garion have a conversation in book two where she explains why she's such a cunt. she acts like cute farm aunt Pol when she's alone with Garion sometimes and she even gets slightly more batshit insane in some of the later books.
Despite all of that she's still my favourite character of the Belgariad
I love unhinged, obsessed women

[Anonymous No.23701765]

>>23701276
He kind of did, he was forced by the publisher to make one iirc.

[Anonymous No.23701775]

>>23697628
>>23699662
I need to read Solaris someday. From Lem I only read Invincible but it's easily one of my favorite books.

[Anonymous No.23701792]

>>23701669
I don't think growing back your hymen suddenly means you're not a slut but I guess thats woman logic

[Anonymous No.23701802]

>>23701792
>woman logic
it is written by a man...

[Anonymous No.23701806]

>>23701802
Yes he's being realistic

[Anonymous No.23701813]

>>23701806
So he's actually a woman?

[Anonymous No.23701901]

>>23701276
>>23701765
Sapkowski overall didn't care much about worldbuilding. He only started putting more thoughts into the Witcher world after moving from short stories to the longer novel and even then he did it out of necessary. To keep the longer story coherent. That's why it's always funny to me whenever someone praises Witcher for worldbuilding. Not to say Sapkowski did a bad job, he just didn't care much about it. He always say he's more of story guy.

[Anonymous No.23701964]

>>23701565
name of the book?

[Anonymous No.23702101]

>>23701652
mc is a beta
getting raped by a woman is kinda gay

[Anonymous No.23702114]

>>23696782
Currently at Dark Age.
Pretty great series imo. Anyone here read em?

[Anonymous No.23702169]

I love me some Big Dumb Object but I've already read the Big Dumb Object go-tos such as Ringworld and Rama... What else is there to turn to?

[Anonymous No.23702170]

What's your favorite military si-fi series /sffg/? Starfist has always been one of mine. I'm still pissed that it got canceled and the main author died without a resolution to the conflict with the Skinks.

[Anonymous No.23702191]

>>23702170
Death's Head by David Gunn

[Anonymous No.23702207]

>>23702170
I don't read a lot of military sci-fi which is something I should change because I enjoy the genre. I really enjoyed Bolo! by Dawid Weber, a collection of short stories set in Bolo universe, although I wish to read the original Keith Laumer's stories who started the series. The series centers around titular Bolos, giant super advanced inteligent tanks. Beyond that I'm thinking about picking up Old Man's War. It seems interesting.

[Anonymous No.23702286]

>>23702191
Just finished the first book and going to the second and yeah, this series is pretty good. Subterrene Wars was pretty interesting too, each book has a different pov and tone but all three deliver a decent war story.

[Anonymous No.23702318]

The writing was bad. The writing was bad and terrible. It was no ordinary writing, it was bad. He grinned as it dawned on him, the writing was bad.

[Anonymous No.23702326]

>>23702318
actually made me kek. thanks, anon

[Anonymous No.23702402]

>>23700837
looks like a mix of schizoid Philip K Dick pulp with a dash of David Cronenberg body horror. enjoy

[Anonymous No.23702499]

>>23701669
>her
Stopped reading there.

[Anonymous No.23702537]

Empire of Silence might bet the worst book I've read in the last year. And I read the sloppest of slop from time to time

[Anonymous No.23702543]

>>23701437
>when the ship gets to the dyson sphere
got here and it was good, but seriously it's like 1 in 10 chapters are good and the rest dumb filler that i really don't care about. if it was well written or i felt engaged to any of the characters i wouldn't mind. i'll report back when i finish, maybe the plot gets going now

in any case this is the kind of reason people think bad of the scifi genre, there's a nice story somewhere in there, about aliens and interaction between different civilizations and so on, and several interesting scifi concepts about first contact, rejuvenation, different kinds of future tech, but the author overshot and filled the book with dumb things badly written to give context, or give the story a good character-driven background, or something, idk but it ended up terrible. and also i genuinely think he has an obsession with sex, parts of the whole book feel like a power fantasy

[Anonymous No.23702555]

>>23702543
He did go a bit far trying to subvert SF tropes and stuff, and I agree the characters all fucking suck. The conceptual stuff is cool and I guess thats the payoff. Reality Dysfunction is quite a bit less "subversive" and is probably a better book overall.

[Anonymous No.23702576]

>>23702543
And honestly if you only just got to the Dyson sphere you might still come away from this thinking it was worth it

[Anonymous No.23702598]

>>23702318
ha

[Anonymous No.23702617]

>>23702537
found it kinda funny how it just repeats Name of the Wind's trick of alluding to a bunch of interesting stuff in the prologue only to then travel back in time and describe a pretty bog standard action adventure story

[Anonymous No.23702624]

>>23702617
It's 700 pages but little to no substance. Any time it seems like it might get interesting Ruocchio says ''no, thanks'' and takes it into a completely bland direction instead.
And no, the character being aware he's a melodramatic bitch does not make it any more palatable for the reader being subjected to that shit

[Anonymous No.23702751]

>>23701652
That drow one posted a couple threads ago was good

[Anonymous No.23702887]

>>23701185
If Garion doesn't have his own pair of cheeks to clap by that point I'm dropping it. That's borderline NTR in my world.

[Anonymous No.23702899]

Any good nature-core/melancholy-core/ruins-core books? Like The Hobbit/LOTR.

[Anonymous No.23702913]

>>23702899
>nature-core/melancholy-core/ruins-core

[Anonymous No.23702966]

>>23702169
>durr I like x but I've only ever bothered to read one or two of the most popular entries of the entire genre
>what do i do
so many of you dumbfuck newfags make gay chatbot rec requests and none of you expand out of your comfort zone
xeelee sequence

[Anonymous No.23703039]

>>23702966
Didn't ask for your faggot assed opinion, did I?

[Anonymous No.23703044]

>>23702899
Lyonesse

[Anonymous No.23703063]

>>23702913
Good, due. Stupid Asian potato fag.

[Anonymous No.23703071]

>>23703063
Faggy ass autocorrect...

DIE* not due.

CAPTCHA: KYS X

[Anonymous No.23703072]

>>23702899
Travel Light

[Anonymous No.23703085]

>>23701775
I'll have to check that out. I've only read Solaris and The Cyberiad.

[Anonymous No.23703098]

>>23700089
Pain

[Anonymous No.23703265]

>>23701565
>the passage by the author in the back of the book is him complaining about how all sci-fi writers are “retards” and only he has any real creativity
Kek

[Anonymous No.23703266]

>>23703039
>What else is there to turn to?
You did, dumbfuck defensive newfag.

[Anonymous No.23703270]

>>23702169
Pushing Ice

[Anonymous No.23703280]

>>23703270
Btw, don’t read the summary on the Amazon page, it spoils a lot

[Anonymous No.23703382]

>>23702899
Book of the New Sun

[Anonymous No.23703409]

>>23701565
I will buy 10 copies of his books and distribute them for free in those little libraries they have in my neighborhood.

[Anonymous No.23703423]

>>23702899
Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn by Tad Williams. All his fantasy books are great at conveying this feeling of immense age and mystery in a location, but his first series is the one that spends the most time in such places.

[Anonymous No.23703444]

>>23701565
What book asshole

[Anonymous No.23703469]

>>23703044
>>23703382
>>23703423
Thanks.

>>23703072
By Naomi Mitchison?

[Anonymous No.23703520]

Does anybody here listened to Lyonesse as an audibook? Which one is a better narrator: Kevin T. Collins or Suzanne Toren?

[Anonymous No.23703523]

>>23703469
Yeah

[Anonymous No.23703532]

Did anyone here listen to Lyonesse as audiobooks? Which one is a better narrator: Kevin T. Collins or Suzanne Toren?

[Anonymous No.23703553]

>>23697584
Same. Thought is was a great easy read

[Anonymous No.23703559]

>>23698609
Tomorrow, the stars! It's a Bunch of short stories by famous sci fi authors. The best ones are 'I'm scared' 'keyhole' and 'the sack' the rest are Ok or bad

[Anonymous No.23703652]

>>23703266
>Newfag! Newfag! NEWFAG!!!
You feel like you're fitting in yet? Standoffish, hostile loser.

[Anonymous No.23703703]

>>23696782
Can we shill our own stories here?

[Anonymous No.23703705]

>>23696782
which drizzt books should I read? there is no way I'm reading all that shit. Just bought dark elf trilogy

[Anonymous No.23703796]

>>23702751
anyone have the name please??

[Anonymous No.23703799]

>>23701109
Yeah, that faggot. But he also was posting different covers asking us which was the best.

[Anonymous No.23703838]

>>23703796
https://www.scribblehub.com/series/1084494/kono-drow-exile/

[Anonymous No.23703850]

>>23703652
Why can't newfags simply admit that you're new? Acting abrasively defensively every time you act the stereotype you are does nothing for your character.

[Anonymous No.23703854]

>>23703085
You should. I don't really want to tell you more about it. I'll say that I really enjoyed the initial exploration of the planet and the atmosphere of mystery behind it.

[Anonymous No.23703856]

>>23703705
You can end up on with The Dark Elf trilogy and that's fine.

I love The Dark Elf trilogy and Legacy of the Drow tetralogy. They both take place in the Underdark and it's cool.

So
1. The Dark Elf Trilogy
2. The Icewind Dale Trilogy (a pretty weak trilogy)
3. Legacy of the Drow

The next trilogy after Legacy of the Drow (Paths of Darkness) is just a pastiche of different stories, many love it, but it's unnecessary.

[Anonymous No.23703859]

>>23701580
The absurd amount of rape, homo, and infidelity in this borders of fetishistic. I still overall enjoyed it, but sadly his sequel series is crap.

[Anonymous No.23703861]

>>23703838
>loins of a man
futa drow?

[Anonymous No.23703869]

>>23703861
Yup. It's all futa on F though so it's not gay.

[Anonymous No.23703927]

>>23703869
(X) Doubt

[Anonymous No.23703957]

>>23703861
>>23703856
>>23703796
>>23703838

DROW THREAD. Goddamn I fucking love drow, but also hate S&M flavor shit so I fucking hate drow

[Anonymous No.23704000]

>>23696938
>The tavern was called the Pathfinder’s Gambit, though its patrons referred to it as ‘the Armpit’, or simply just ‘the Pit’, on account of its stale odour and the fact its interior rarely saw sunlight. The Pit had a particular reputation for violence and tonight had proven no exception. The evening’s current tally stood at three assaults (two stabbings and an attempted strangulation), two brawls, and– so far, at least– just the one death. Still, the night was young, the drink was flowing, and half the card games taking place in the tavern’s smoke-filled common room were rigged. It was only a matter of time before someone else took a blade between the ribs.

>Could be me if I’m not careful, Lukan Gardova mused, eyeing the small pile of coins he’d won over the past half-hour. The Pit’s one saving grace was that it was an excellent place to win a bit of silver, and it was for this reason that Lukan found himself sitting at a table with several companions of dubious virtue, drinking gin of dubious quality, and holding two cards of dubious value. Peasant of Crowns and a Priest of Blades, he thought, studying the faded illustrations. Bloody hells. It was a miserable hand, but that didn’t matter. In rummijake you played your opponents first and your cards second.

[Anonymous No.23704011]

>>23704000
hey 14-year-old boys need something to read too

[Anonymous No.23704013]

What are the best wish fulfillment books?

[Anonymous No.23704032]

>>23704000
By the standards of the thread this is hardly despicable.

[Anonymous No.23704033]

>>23704013
Harry Potter fanfiction. i have read and recommend:
HP For Love of Magic
HP Prince of Slytherin
HP Dodging Prison and Stealing Witches
HP Blood Crest (less wish fulfillment but good)

also Sexy Space Babes on royalroad

[Anonymous No.23704066]

>>23704033
>all tranny shit

[Anonymous No.23704088]

>>23704066
are you trolling sir?

[Anonymous No.23704140]

>>23704088
no xa'am

[Anonymous No.23704148]

What are some good stories about/involving "living" or "biological" spaceships?

[Anonymous No.23704206]

>>23704000
it's very cliche but not terrible, there could be a fun decent book behind it

[Anonymous No.23704219]

>>23703859
first time i'm hearing about the sequel series

[Anonymous No.23704228]

>>23696782
Hey /sffg/ what are some fantasy books that give out that similar feel to the videogames from team ICO?
Specifically sometthing closer to ICO itself.

[Anonymous No.23704264]

>>23704228
Gormenghast is the obvious pick, it even got compared to it in reviews

[Anonymous No.23704265]

>>23704228
Engine Summer (sci fi. But has a lonely and melancholy tone of team ICO)
Lord Dunsany's The Fortress Unvanquishable, Save for Sacnoth (arguably the first S&S tale)

[Anonymous No.23704279]

>>23696782
https://www.royalroad.com/blog/70/introducing-a-new-publishing-program
Anyone else thinking about submitting a manuscript?

[Anonymous No.23704330]

Are there any good well written sci-fi or fantasy books from the 2020s so far?

[Anonymous No.23704339]

>>23704330
No, Peter Watts hasn't finished Omniscience yet.

[Anonymous No.23704340]

What is your favorite work of science fiction of the last ten years?

[Anonymous No.23704377]

>>23704340
Annihiliation (movie)

[Anonymous No.23704388]

>>23704377
I meant in book form, tard... where do you think we are?

[Anonymous No.23704397]

>>23704340
Maybe some Warhammer stuff, because I had read all interesting (for me) sci-fi prior to 2012.

[Anonymous No.23704399]

>>23704388
Annihilation (book)

[Anonymous No.23704410]

>>23704399
>Low rent, new age inferior Americunt Roadside Picnic
"YAWN" Fag.

[Anonymous No.23704414]

>>23704397
>Media tie-in fiction
Grim.

[Anonymous No.23704419]

>>23704414
Still more interesting than modern sci-fi books.

[Anonymous No.23704484]

>>23704340
Not gonna include later works in ongoing series so probably Finder

[Anonymous No.23704522]

Have we successfully been infiltrated and extinguished? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH9EUaJeihU

[Anonymous No.23704532]

Fantasy series with a strong female mc who has to dress up in tribal clothing at some point?

[Anonymous No.23704567]

>>23704532
now I want some ENF fantasy

[Anonymous No.23704627]

>>23704340
Delta-V (2019) by Daniel Suarez
The Thing Itself (2015) by Adam Roberts
Roberts's "Purgatory Mount" (2021) might be good too, haven't read it

[Anonymous No.23704637]

Any fantasy/scifi books with this feel?

[Anonymous No.23704644]

>>23704637
The Baker's Boy by JV Jones

[Anonymous No.23704659]

>>23704637
A Song of Ice and Fire

[Anonymous No.23704679]

>>23696938
>>23704000
>mcguffin quests
>pathfinder's gambit
Classic case of an author writing down their TTRPG campaign.

[Anonymous No.23704682]

>>23704033
SSB although 6/10 tier is better in its fanfics. You really have to check out "In For A Penny".
"City Slickers and Hayseeds" also has potential but I think its author has abandoned it. "Only Human" has only five chapters so far but is a good start.

[Anonymous No.23704693]

>>23704679
I don't think it's that, the book isn't very funny but it's full of references to other fantasy works.
No actual DM would ever name their tavern after a game system

[Anonymous No.23704698]

>>23700837
Why is it so dummy thicc? How woah dude profound can a schizo episode/drug trip be? No wonder I didn't finish it 20 years ago.

[Anonymous No.23704709]

>>23701384
nta - i don't know about hamilton overall (he wrote some earlier books) but "pandora's star" was utter slop.

[Anonymous No.23704713]

>>23704698
read Hogg

[Anonymous No.23704720]

Any of you in here read this or anything else by the author? I have a credit and it looks interesting.

[Anonymous No.23704728]

>>23700406
>What even is the point of sex scenes?
"Show don't tell". The scenes illustrate and develop two characters' mutual interactions. And maybe you can fap to it.
Although it's /tv/, the scene toward the end of "Terminator" was... pretty much the whole point of the movie.

[Anonymous No.23704733]

>>23698033
unfortunately then you're missing 1/5 of the book. it's not TFW without the scene where he's back on Earth.

[Anonymous No.23704742]

>>23697600
The most-realistic part of the book desu.

[Anonymous No.23704771]

I only read books with a female MC that cries, masturbates, and runs from all responsibilities. Give me the book.

[Anonymous No.23704773]

>>23704340
Pantheon

[Anonymous No.23704785]

>>23704771
Bonus points for also instantly submitting to any dude she can't beat and becoming their fuck toy.

[Anonymous No.23704801]

>>23704742
Deviant, or prescient?

[Anonymous No.23704804]

>>23704771
please be in London...

[Anonymous No.23704814]

>>23704771
>>23704785
Azarinth Healer.
I kind of miss the ritualposter that had all the litrpgs listed but at least >>23699586 is still going strong

[Anonymous No.23704818]

>>23704728
But in literature, it just results in stuff like Pink Mast.

[Anonymous No.23704838]

>>23704818
For me it's, myrrish swamp.

[Anonymous No.23704851]

>>23697345
Your list started out great, then progressively got worse as I went down it.

[Anonymous No.23704870]

>>23704410
Roadside Picnic was just an inferior version of Color out of Space anyway.

[Anonymous No.23704891]

>>23704713
It's coming. The prose is nice enough to keep going and there's a literal nut on every page but I think anubisanon/the scam artist on /vg/ has a better comic series that does more.

[Anonymous No.23704914]

>>23704219
I'm sorry to have alerted you to its existence. Pretend I never mentioned it. You'll be happier.

[Anonymous No.23704927]

>>23701669
This is so clumsy and sloppy, it's hard to imagine he typed it with two hands.

[Anonymous No.23704928]

>>23704818
That's just GRRM being GRRM. He can't write a titillating sex scene for the reason he can't write a wholesome romance or straightforwardly chivalrous hero. The sex has to be gritty, if it provides explicit detail it only does so to remove any chance of eroticism.

[Anonymous No.23704932]

>>23704928
That's because he's trying to write it from a neutral perspective, not an erotic one. He's detailing what happened. It's not gritty, it's just matter-of-fact.

[Anonymous No.23704935]

>>23704932
Unscripted sexual encounters can be HIGHLY erotic. The ones detailed by GRRM never are. This is by choice. He deliebrately show you only awkward or distasteful scenes because his purpose is to un-romance the genre.

[Anonymous No.23704941]

Fang Yuan is the personification of bug people's way of living. Immoral and individualistic, they'd throw everyone under the bus just for some grains of rice

[Anonymous No.23704947]

>wasting word count on sex scenes
Hack behavior

[Anonymous No.23704951]

>>23704947
Uhhhh.... based opinion department? Hello?

[Anonymous No.23704959]

So I decided to read the Horus Heresy but I didnt decide to read all of it or any of it in order. I decided to look which space marines looked the coolest and go from there so I picked the Mongolian Guys the general 40k fandom tend to ignore I heard the Horus Heresy books are considered slop so I went in with low expectations but I already know some lore of 40k so I didnt go in blind.

>I read it
>Was instantly drawn into the story and set up of the Primarch Jagahatai Khan and his legion
>Decide to read the rest of the White Scar plot in HH

Holy fuck this book was quite possibly one of the best 40k books I ever read I never much cared for the Space Marine dads that are the primarchs but Jagahatai is actual written like an actual character and not a walking archetype like so much other 40k shit

[Anonymous No.23704972]

>>23704959
You should buy a lottery ticket becasue out of 80 books you picked the ones that werent ass and the main characters that werent butchered by subpar plots and authors

[Anonymous No.23704976]

>>23704340
Probably Dungeon Crawler Carl. Most anything else I like is pre-2010s at the latest and there sure as shit ain't big novels dropping that are worth a damn anymore on the public scene. Ask me 10 years ago and I'd easily say the Cosmere. It won't ever be completed and it's a fucking disappointment.

[Anonymous No.23704985]

>>23704682
thanks anon, i hadn't heard of those

[Anonymous No.23704986]

>"HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARY POTHEAD," Patriarch Dumbledore asked with an expressionless face as calm as the surface of a still lake.
>"DID YOU LIGHT YOUR SILVER MOON GRASS FROM THE SACRED ANCESTRAL FLAME?"

[Anonymous No.23704992]

>>23704976
>Dungeon Crawler Carl
>Cosmere
Are you a teenager?

[Anonymous No.23704999]

>>23704340

[Anonymous No.23705012]

>>23704992
>Most anything else I like is pre-2010s at the latest
Nobody is writing big sprawling sci-fi epics or stripping out the inner depths of the mind under a lens like they used to. Honestly, DCC does a great job of showing human characters and another book by the author, Kaiju: Battlefield Surgeon, is the best portrayal of human trauma I have seen.

[Anonymous No.23705026]

>>23704999
>pulpy sex romp on a terraformed Mars, but joycean
Based. Everything SFF isn't right now, that's for sure.

[Anonymous No.23705032]

>>23705012
>Nobody is writing big sprawling sci-fi epics
Read Sun Eater

[Anonymous No.23705043]

>>23705032
don't

[Anonymous No.23705055]

>>23704999
Susussuss?

Sounds sus.

[Anonymous No.23705057]

>>23704972
Sandy Mitchell's Cain books are great. I also hear good things about Dan Abnett, who has written excellent stuff outside WH.

[Anonymous No.23705062]

>>23705055
The wind is horny and has two dads, the pace is metered by myths of nymphs being turned into plants by gods who tried to rape them, and there's an ongoing conversation about pataphysics which has some basis in a certain kind of philosophical inquiry and relates to the story as a whole. Your nigger's eyes for cursive make you look a right fool.

[Anonymous No.23705068]

>>23705062
Rude. Sounds like gay faggot limpwristed shit for homosexuals and trannies anyway.

[Anonymous No.23705073]

>>23705068

[Anonymous No.23705097]

>>23705073
>TL;DR Fag cope image that I won't even bother opening let alone reading
Sad!

[Anonymous No.23705098]

>>23705073
This meme is actually a pretty good summary of Foucault's later work on Roman sexuality

[Anonymous No.23705105]

>>23705073
>Fag, Fag, Fag, fag.. Fag? FAG!! Fag Fag fag... Fag! FAGGOT FAGGOT FAG!
Riveting stuff you got there, cocksucking degenerate apologist.

[Anonymous No.23705109]

>>23705073
>Pre-Christian romans had all kinds of gay pedophile sex, according to a gnostic gay pedophile

[Anonymous No.23705120]

>>23705098
It's a very informed position, that's for sure. Not sure why all the other anons are posting on a site that routinely explores that kind of sexuality firsthand in just about every thread. It's odd to see.

[Anonymous No.23705149]

>>23704935
>un-romance the genre
ASOIAF does not define the genre of Fantasy. In fact I would say it barely qualifies as fantasy, and is simply closer to Gothic Fiction. I would say that ASOIAF appeals most to people who normally would have a distaste for fantasy, and enjoy the faux-grounded nature of the setting of Westeros through overly-intricate politics and other minutiae titillating because it makes them feel like it's more "real", despite that being antithetical to the nature of fantasy to begin with.

[Anonymous No.23705152]

>>23704935
>un-romance the genre
ASOIAF does not define the genre of Fantasy. In fact I would say it barely qualifies as fantasy, and is simply closer to Gothic Fiction. I would say that ASOIAF appeals most to people who normally would have a distaste for fantasy, and enjoy the faux-grounded nature of the setting of Westeros through overly-intricate politics and other minutiae titillating because it makes them feel like it's more "real", despite that being antithetical to the nature of fantasy to begin with.

It's entertaining to read, but make no mistake, Tolkien and Robert E Howard stand as monoliths towering above GRRM in both influence and prestige, and are the true people who defined modern fantasy. GRRM just stands as another writer contributing to the genre they built.

[Anonymous No.23705154]

ASOIAF isn't even very realistic, it's basically 80s over the top shit.
>So there's these mongol type guys who are SO BADASS they don't even use horses or bows they just fuck u up
>And there's these viking types who are such fucking BADASSES they don't even grow food they pillage everything
>Oh yeah and there's a GIANT CASTLE that's basically an entire mountain
>But that's small fries next to the WALL that's A THOUSAND FEET TALL ACROSS AN ENTIRE CONTINENT WHOAAAA

[Anonymous No.23705158]

>>23705154
*armor or bows

[Anonymous No.23705162]

>>23697345
>comicbooks
BWAHAHAHAHA!
>>23705012
>is the best portrayal of human trauma I have seen.
fr no cap fellow skibidi zoomer!

[Anonymous No.23705181]

>>23705162
where is the upvote button on this website HAHAHA

[Anonymous No.23705184]

>>23705152
I don't think you understood my point at all if you think I was arguing for GRRM 'defining the genre of fantasy' which are not words I used in any of my posts, nor anything approximating them.

[Anonymous No.23705189]

>>23705154
Don't forget all the swords piercing plate armor.

[Anonymous No.23705191]

>>23705184
>his purpose is to un-romance the genre
The genre isn't his to influence.

[Anonymous No.23705234]

>>23705191
Regardless, he has influenced it. You're blind if you think otherwise, or simply ignore the plethora of imitators he has spawned in the last decade.

[Anonymous No.23705241]

>>23702114
I read the first three books and enjoyed them. Even though the first was pretty derivative. Stopped reading partway through four. Just wasn't my thing after 3

[Anonymous No.23705248]

>>23702114
Yeah, couldn't really get into the sequel trilogy though. Maybe I'm just a bitch but it got too fucking dark for me especially with what happens to Victra and the twist villain was really lame too.

[Anonymous No.23705257]

>>23704935
>un-romance the genre.
then explain why i want to romance Cersei so bad? checkmate slob martin

[Anonymous No.23705266]

>>23704999
>>23705026
>the jism spouted into and through him and out of his own spurting prick
I take back everything I ever said about Xianxianfags. How could I blame them when this is the level of content mutts are proliferating?

[Anonymous No.23705275]

>>23705032
Do

[Anonymous No.23705398]

>>23705032
>>23705043
>>23705275
Love it or hate it, can somebody tell me why tradcaths write such compelling epics?

[Anonymous No.23705401]

>>23705398
>Slop YA eater
>compelling epic
the absolute state of modern scifi...

[Anonymous No.23705403]

>>23702537
>>23702617
>>23702624
The crazy part is all that alluded to shit actually happens in the later books. Rothfuss could never.

[Anonymous No.23705404]

>>23705401
Yeah what about it? Answer the question homo.

[Anonymous No.23705429]

>>23705404
because epics are in essence spiritual journeys, actual religious people (i mean real religions, not something like mormonism or scientology) are more in touch with that side of their lives than regular people so it's easier for them. that being said sun eater is trash

[Anonymous No.23705443]

>>23705073
>t-this was totally the case
>ignore the part where male on male acts between citizens would get you stripped of your citizenship for being a degenerate

[Anonymous No.23705451]

>>23705429
I gues that makes sense. Why do you think it's trash though? Hard mode, explain why the later books are trash and not just eos.

[Anonymous No.23705515]

>>23705154
>And there's these viking types who are such fucking BADASSES they don't even grow food they pillage everything
Fishing, you can look at modern Iceland.

Other arguments are just stupid.

[Anonymous No.23705538]

>>23705515
Incorrect.

[Anonymous No.23705575]

>>23704720
you can check it on royalroad, it was meh

[Anonymous No.23705584]

>>23705154
Honestly I never took it seriously. The only annoying thing is Martin's/the fans' insistence it's super realistic.

[Anonymous No.23705672]

>>23705154
>So there's these mongol type guys who are SO BADASS they don't even use armour or bows they just fuck u up
This is true for the show but is it true for the books as well. I assumed it wasn't because of how absolutely retarded that would be.

[Anonymous No.23705674]

>>23704785
This one was kino. Too bad she doesn’t even feature in book two though. Any other series with a female mc like this?

[Anonymous No.23705716]

>>23705672
Non warriors are looked down on.

[Anonymous No.23705752]

>>23705716
I'm talking about bows and armour nigguana. You can't have a horde made up entirely of dudes with no armour and swords, they would get shredded doing anything other than light raiding.

[Anonymous No.23705756]

>>23705752
>they would get shredded doing anything other than light raiding.
in reality, that's all they do, they're a paper tiger, they come by and villages just hand em shit, they leave cities alone because they can't do shit about walls, dothraki are a joke

[Anonymous No.23705766]

>>23697584
I just finished reading it as well and really liked. I'm seeing mixed opinions online on the sequels though, they worth reading?

[Anonymous No.23705792]

>>23699027
https://archive.org/details/OTRR_Dimension_X_Singles/Dimension_X_1950-04-08__01_OuterLimit.mp3

[Anonymous No.23705853]

>>23701580
>>23701641
dogshit
insufferable characters
the sand place was good for a while because there were no women
i dropped it after that

[Anonymous No.23706051]

Why does the title of this hit so hard? No way Japanese intended for that. lol

Something about framing the story as an account (even if it fucking isn't even "based" on any fictional source as a plot device) is really appealing.

[Anonymous No.23706058]

>>23704720
just torrent it lmao
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[Anonymous No.23706172]

>>23706051
It's based on a tabletop campaign, it's a campaign write-up.

[Anonymous No.23706179]

>>23706177
>>23706177
>>23706177
New

[Anonymous No.23706412]

>>23705401
I've read it, and there's little to no YA slop. If you crave YA slop, read Red Rising.