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23693390 No.23693390 [Reply] [Original]

>the important thing for the student of science is to make himself undergo the strenuous toil of conceptual reflection, of thinking in the form of the notion. This demands concentrated attention on the notion as such, on simple and ultimate determinations like being-in-itself, being-for-itself, self-identity, and so on; for these are elemental, pure, self-determined functions of a kind we might call souls, were it not that their conceptual nature denotes something higher than that term contains.

>> No.23693410
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>If we consider German philosophy, we only find in it hypotheses and systems with metaphysical pretensions, deductions from a fanciful starting point, ideas which might seem to be profound when they are simply nebulous; and this pseudo-metaphysics, which is everything that is farthest from true metaphysics, the Germans claim to find in others, whose conceptions they always interpret according to their own.

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>>23693410
>we only find in it hypotheses
irredeemably filtered

>As regards certitude, I have fully convinced myself that, in this sphere of thought, opinion is perfectly inadmissible, and that everything which bears the least semblance of an hypothesis must be excluded, as of no value in such discussions. For it is a necessary condition of every cognition that is to be established upon a priori grounds that it shall be held to be absolutely necessary; much more is this the case with an attempt to determine all pure a priori cognition, and to furnish the standard—and consequently an example-of all apodeictic (philosophical) certitude.

>> No.23693428

Fuck Hegel and fuck you, OP.

>> No.23693514 [DELETED] 

i just watched a youtube video of how chad goethe humiliated hegel by inviting him to his house not introducing and having his daughter in law measure him out by allowing him to talk about his autistic dialectic, then when he is gone, he asks her what she thinks and she tells him he is crazy lmao.

>> No.23693517

i just watched a youtube video of how chad goethe humiliated hegel by inviting him to his house, not introducing him, and having his daughter in law measure him out by allowing him to talk to her about his autistic dialectic while he stays silent, then when he is gone, he asks her what she thinks and she tells him he is crazy lmao.

>> No.23693522

>>23693517
>i just watched a youtube video
stopped reading right there

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>>23693517
oh you mean this Goethe?

>After a visit from Hegel, Goethe wrote to [Karl Ludwig von] Knebel that the conversation had aroused in him the desire to be together with Hegel at more length, "For what in the printed communications of such a man appears to us abstruse and unclear, because we cannot utilize it immediately for our own needs, immediately becomes our own in the course of live conversation, because we perceive that we are in agreement with him in basic thoughts and ideas, and mutual development and elucidation of them could probably lead to rapprochement and agreement."
At the same time, Goethe was conscious of Hegel's approval: "Your gracious approval of the major trends of my thought confirms me all the more in the same; and I believe that I have made notable progress in many areas, if not in terms of the whole, then for me and my soul. May all that I am yet capable of achieving always be built upon what you have established and continue to develop."

>> No.23693560

>>23693517
Based Goethe gatekeeping women from the secrets of the universe.

>> No.23693704

bump

>> No.23693987

>>23693390
>>23693414
>>23693522
>>23693538
>>23693704
it's really just one autist making it seem like Kant and Hegel are worthy of discussion

>> No.23694283

>>23693517
I saw the thumbnail for this exact YouTube video and promptly ignored it because it looked like pop philosophy slop made for vapid pseuds. Also funnily enough Goethe went on record to admit he was filtered by Hegel.

>> No.23694352

>>23693390
Science is boring and strict in its scope. It doesn't allow masturbatory speculation without testing.

>> No.23694659

>>23694283
He wasn't filtered, he just didn't see the point of the empty philosophizing so common in the german world compared to the british one. He liked spinoza btw. You could argue that he was disinterested, if he put in as much effort in learning hegel's philosophy as he did in his parties, he would have surely understood his project.

>> No.23695457

>>23694283
It's from the guy who does the Nietzsche podcast. I like his videos but I have no idea what the deal is with the thumbnails lately. They're terrible and not really representative of the content at all, you'd think someone else made them by how opposite to his treatment of the subject matter it is.

>> No.23696485

>ANOTHER low effort copy paste thread dedicated to masturbatory cult-worship

>> No.23696780

bump