/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.23661468]

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Previous Thread: >>23649631

[Anonymous No.23661471]

what is your favourite quirky civilisation?

[Anonymous No.23661476]

First for Bakker

[Anonymous No.23661489]

Just finished this in a couple of days. Absolutely loved it, as I did The Stars My Destination. Peep me some other rec’s, with thanks.

[Anonymous No.23661491]

It's so sad that the company behind the Gotrek & Felix book left the series unfinished.

[Anonymous No.23661519]

>>23661489
Oh hey that was probably me. I've not read anything else by Bester so I can't give any recommendations on that front. I think Vance is a comparable writer, so if you're looking for something similar you could try something from him. I'd start with Showboat World or Emphyrio

[Anonymous No.23661640]

>>23661471
I like Barsoom's weird cultures. Intelligent crabs that ride headless humans and the like.

[Anonymous No.23661689]

Need some really INTERESTING book like Hyperion

Recently read (and enjoyed) this extremely ambitious series.
If it had been slightly worse, it would have been trash. It aaaalmost pulls off what it's trying to do,

[Anonymous No.23661724]

Just finished a few early Conan stories by Howard, and that was the first thing of his I ever read. The writing has no right to be this clean and concise, I fucking love it. Bonus points to The God in the Bowl, I wish more boring 600 page books had "then Conan kills or maims everyone in the room" as a whodunnit mystery resolution.

[Anonymous No.23661730]

>>23661724
I'm also surprised that writers of the Conan the Adventurer kid's show reused the whole Epemitreus the Sage with the whole phoenix symbol plot point, along with the entirety of Tower of the Elephant for their episodes, I thought it was neat.

[Anonymous No.23661767]

>>23661468
Based by virtue being excellently written by the Master
5 / 5 stars

[Anonymous No.23661823]

>>23661689
>>Recently read (and enjoyed) this extremely ambitious series.
Redditor.

[Anonymous No.23661851]

>>23661468
Hey bros. I finished The Curse of Chalion yesterday. I quite liked the mc and the spanish medieval setting. It seems like the mc doesn't appear anymore in the next books. Should I continue the next (standalone) books in that universe or try pic rel by the same writer?

[Anonymous No.23661884]

>>23661476
>>23661689
>>23661724
Why would anyone come to 4chan to discuss the same books? At least Reddit talks about a wider selection.

[Anonymous No.23661919]

>>23661476
THE COFFERS

[Anonymous No.23662014]

>>23661851
Soul of the Paladin is very much chickliterotica adjacent, so if that's not your thing I wouldn't bother with it

[Anonymous No.23662021]

>>23661724
more stories could end in the wizard getting his skull smashed in by a thrown chair

[Anonymous No.23662045]

>>23661468
>no "Edition" on the /sffg/ thread
This place is going to utter dogshit

[Anonymous No.23662162]

>>23661471
The Darsh from Vance's The Face are a lot of fun.

[Anonymous No.23662163]

[Anonymous No.23662216]

>>23661823
So, like, have you read it? Or are you just too triggered by the lgbt tag on goodreads?

[Anonymous No.23662247]

>>23661491
Was there really an overarching story, though?

[Anonymous No.23662253]

This is your chance to recommend that one book you really like but no one else seems to care about.

[Anonymous No.23662271]

This cover looks like a fucking Terry Pratchett book about a wacky Santa Claus. It's worse than the shitty stockart photoshop paperback version

[Anonymous No.23662294]

>>23662253
The 13 1/2 Lives of Captain Bluebear

[Anonymous No.23662312]

>>23662253
Anything by R A Lafferty
If I had to recommend one, it would be Fourth Mansions. It says a lot about society.

[Anonymous No.23662323]

>>23661471
Lud-in-the-mist is the most extreme version I can think of. In the beginning it's actually a fun read because of how alien yet thorough it all feels, but it wears on you over time. Whimsy overload.

[Anonymous No.23662374]

>>23661468
Just finished the first Wheel of Time book. When does the series get good?

[Anonymous No.23662385]

>>23662374
If you didn't like the first book pack it up.

[Anonymous No.23662390]

Since I posted near the end of the last thread, I'll post again. Does anyone else have A Deepness in the Sky as their favorite sci-fi novel?

[Anonymous No.23662393]

>>23662216
I've read the first two books and made the smart decision to drop the series. It's shit.

[Anonymous No.23662404]

>>23661491
more like it's a shame the setting was cynically murdered in the most ignoble fashion possible to be replaced by something infinitely gayer and more retarded

[Anonymous No.23662410]

>>23662253
They Do The Same Things Different There

[Anonymous No.23662416]

>>23661724
Howard was a legitimately good writer. It will become more apparent as you read more of his stories. After you exhaust Conan check out Bran Mak Morn.

[Anonymous No.23662420]

>>23662247
There was, yes. Two major arcs from the famous duo, with a bunch of smaller (and mostly self-contained) stories.
The first arc, shown across the first 7 books, was written by William King (picrel follows their course).
>>23662404
Very true. But even before that, the series had taken a terrible turn, after Nathan Long had stopped writing it.

[Anonymous No.23662422]

>>23662374
There are entire filler books in WoT. It takes a while.

[Anonymous No.23662430]

>>23662271
Looks better on the actual cover.
>Tor
Expected.

[Anonymous No.23662446]

Checking this one out. About ten percent into it. It's got an intriguing opening thus far. Extremely well written. I expected capeshit the book but honestly might be good.

[Anonymous No.23662456]

>>23662446
that last name…

[Anonymous No.23662464]

>>23661724
His writing is sublime, each passage is crisp and brimming with visceral language and emotion. I am saddened by people thinking of pulp as tripe when some of the best pulp had some of the finest, emotive writing I've ever read through. Howard is especially masterful. I have his books in a collection and cherish them. Every man who's soul hungers should read through Conan at least once. Some passages of meditation within those works have left an imprint in me unlike anything else.

R.I.P Robert.

[Anonymous No.23662467]

>>23662393
What makes the book "reddit" ?

[Anonymous No.23662471]

>>23662416
And he was still so young. The stories he could've written. I weep at this thought.

[Anonymous No.23662476]

>>23662456
It's okay, female author. :)

[Anonymous No.23662499]

>>23662476
no, no you are blind!!

SCHWAB

THAT LAST NAME…. AAIIEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.23662506]

>>23662499
Is the last name in the room with us right now, anon?

[Anonymous No.23662597]

>>23662506
>>23662476
you completely missed my joke

it is unfortunate you could not look beyond your own prejudices to see it

[Anonymous No.23662624]

Has anyone else read this kino or is it just me?

[Anonymous No.23662629]

>>23661689
didn't seem interesting
im looking for more scifi though

[Anonymous No.23662670]

a couple months back someone on here said he was considering storyboarding Walter Moers' Rumo's Miraculous Adventures together with a friend.
if you're here anon, did you actually go through with it?

[Anonymous No.23662718]

Give some good xanxia recs. I've read all the well known popular slop, give me something obscure and not well known, I am counting on you, my /sff/ brothers.

[Anonymous No.23662725]

>>23661468
Any cool books with female protagonists like Equal Rites?

[Anonymous No.23662837]

>>23661491
Maybe it can't be finished. Many such cases.

[Anonymous No.23662927]

>>23662446
>>23662456
>>23662476
>>23662499
phew! ...at least she is not jewish.

[None !SFFG.n1h7M No.23663063]

>>23661468
Navola - Paolo Bacigalupi (2024)

Navola is from beginning to end, Davico's retelling of his origin story. He was born as the son of a banker who led the most powerful family in the city. He's at least somewhat of an unreliable narrator because he lies, tells you he lied, and also says he'd never lie to you. Davico is among the least agentic protagonists I've read. As often accompanies a lack of agency, his life is filled with angst and suffering. All the other characters are better and compensate for him, though I think Bacigalupi went too far with his characterization of him as a son unworthy of the greatness of his forebears. None of it goes unused by the narrative, but I wonder whether it was worth the cost to have such an uninspiring and anguished protagonist. This may be the sort of book that is meant to be contrasted with later ones.

The vast majority takes place in the city of Navola, which is readily comparable to Florence in the time of the Medici. The map is similar and there's often words that are more or less Italian, the meaning of which are usually made evident by their context. I remain ambivalent about this practice because it both adds and detracts from the reading experience. Everywhere else can easily be related to a historical analogue as well.

A singular fantastical element, a dragon's eye seeking a bond, is arguably all that separates this from clearly being secondary world historical fiction. In terms of a plot, there isn't really much of one. There's familicide, political maneuvering, in-depth discussions about trade and geopolitics, slaughtering traitors, and much else. What Davico really wants you to know though is how his day to day life was. Which is him trying to improve himself to be worthy, indulging his actual interest of communing with nature, being a pawn, and having tense situations with his adopted sister. There are a few sex scenes and one in particular is of considerable duration and graphically described in explicit detail.

There's no clear sense of purpose or meaning to anything that happens. I don't believe that in of itself is the message, but it could be. Maybe the following books will clarify matters. Perhaps related to this is how Navola is being called literary fantasy, which is questionable, though the writing is nice and flowed well. However, it does have a lot of exposition both early and late in the story.

Navola is Bacigalupi's first fantasy novel. He usually writes science fiction. It doesn't read like anything else I've read from him, which is most of what he's written. That has its benefits and disappointments. Despite my concerns I'll read the next book whenever it releases, if only because so much of my overall assessment depends on them. If there isn't another one, then that's unfortunate because I don't think this stands alone. As has been the case with all of his novels, I wanted to like it far more than I did, which continues to be troubling.

Rating: 3.5/5

[Anonymous No.23663066]

>>23662927
cute

[Anonymous No.23663140]

>>23663063
How pozzed?

[Anonymous No.23663145]

>>23662927
damn look at the dumptruck on the left girl

[Anonymous No.23663174]

>>23663145
on the mom tier fupa

[Anonymous No.23663181]

>>23663145
and that mom tier fupa

[Anonymous No.23663210]

>>23663145
Fat pig, disgusting I don't understand how can people even get to such a stage

[Anonymous No.23663218]

>>23662927
Surrounded by weaklings she finds repulsive, waiting for the right man to dominate her. The sad state of modernity.

[Anonymous No.23663321]

>>23659892
I agree. it ranges from hot garbage to a guilty pleasure up to some decent stuff. Do you mean when a mutinous captain flooded the fleets' AI with a virus?

>>23659905
I will check it out immediately, thank you. I would love to find a sci-fi series that stands out.
>>23659971
I haven't, but I will put it on the list now, thanks, Anon.

>>23660460
I have heard great hings about Anderson. I almost read that book before getting into The Black Fleet like I am now. Thanks a millon for the list!

[Anonymous No.23663371]

>>23662374
I was grabbed from book 1, so if you're not interested now it's not for you.

[Anonymous No.23663374]

>>23662624
I've read it, and enjoyed it. Tad Williams sets it in the near-future and the story mostly takes place in virtual reality, yet he still found a way to load it with mythology and fairy tales.

[Anonymous No.23663384]

>>23661489
Time and Again by Clifford Simak is very similar to Stars My Destination But "Stars..." is still my favourite

[Anonymous No.23663429]

>>23663218

[Anonymous No.23663498]

>>23662390
Sci-Fi series with this feeling?

[Anonymous No.23663545]

>>23663321
>Do you mean when a mutinous captain flooded the fleets' AI with a virus?
No. I meant when they introduced new (shadow) fleet that was controlled by the AI

[Anonymous No.23663564]

>>23662374
Filler of Time

[Anonymous No.23663648]

>>23661724
you're just getting started

[Anonymous No.23663709]

>>23661489
Brian Aldiss (at least his sci-fi stuff) has a similar grimy, pulpy but idiosyncratic style. Non-stop and Hothouse are good starts

[Anonymous No.23663769]

>>23662390
Huh, I downloaded Deepnes in the Sky earlier today
Somehow I read book 1 and 3 a few years ago, but forgot about book 2

[Anonymous No.23663858]

>>23663769
youre in for a treat
also ew, book 3 is poopy (so everybody says; I havent read it)

[Anonymous No.23663875]

>>23662390
No, I didn't like it at all.

[Anonymous No.23663903]

Any simpchad kino? I remember someone recommending a xianxia story about a guy who meets a goddess then goes through hell to be with her or something?

[Anonymous No.23663959]

/lit/ friends
reading Noble House and need some SF after
Singularity Sky or The Peace War

[Anonymous No.23663989]

>>23663903
Eternal Sacred King

[Anonymous No.23664068]

Any opinions on this Wolfe book?

[Anonymous No.23664090]

>>23663989
why does it have the polygamy tag

[Anonymous No.23664124]

>>23661851
Why not both? Paladin of souls is a stand alone sequel with Ista as the protagonist, and expands more on some of the Gods (particularly the Father and the Bastard).
Also, the Penric series is legitimately excellent. Theyre novellas, but i think we're up to 12 of them now so there's plenty to sink your teeth into.

I founf the Vorkisogan books to be a little dated however, very 80's upper middle class sci fi if that makes and sense. It also devolves into quite a bit of femcoomerism.

[Anonymous No.23664209]

>>23662718
The Heavenly Demon can't live a normal life a xianxia and isekai mix. MC is a super strong cultivator who dies and is reborn in a medieval fantasy world as a small time noble. Basically just him schooling everybody on how to use mana properly and kingdom building.

[Anonymous No.23664249]

>>23661468
>Cultivators leaving a planet after tournament arc
Power full.

[Anonymous No.23664269]

>>23664090
I don't know, there is no polygamy.

[Anonymous No.23664279]

>>23662927
must i say it…?

[Anonymous No.23664280]

finished the first dune book, it was very fun. can’t wait to read the others

[Anonymous No.23664283]

>>23661468
>>23662718
Xianxia recommendations and mentions from last 3 threads:
>>23629826
>>23632882
>>23633837
>>23634364
>>23635588
>>23635692
>>23638938
>>23638995
>>23641550
>>23642417
>>23644388
>>23645788
>>23646959 >>23663989 (Eternal Sacred King)
>>23648445 (Martial Peak)

[Anonymous No.23664478]

>>23664280
you can and you should

[Anonymous No.23664503]

>Read Eternal Sacred King
>Entire gimmick is that the protagonist can't do normal cultivation so he has to do body cultivation
>100 chapters in he gets a plot device so he can do normal cultivation

That entirely defeats the purpose.

[Anonymous No.23664510]

>>23664503
a common occurrence, sad!

[Anonymous No.23664522]

>>23662374
Book 2 is where it picks up, feel free to stop after 5

[Anonymous No.23664530]

>>23662374
Like, book 4 or something. You can treat book 1 to 3 like an extended prolog. The whole dragon reborn plot doesn't really kick off until the end of book 3.
Took me ages to pick the series up again after Great Hunt but now I'm blasting through it and currently in the middle of book 6.

[Anonymous No.23664544]

How do I justify a high-tech civilization turning into an iron age civilization?

[Anonymous No.23664573]

>>23664280
Stop after book two

[Anonymous No.23664589]

>>23664544
read the news

[Anonymous No.23664597]

>>23664544
Good old man-made/natural apocalypse, all-out war, virus, meteorite, some sort of natural cycle, etc

[Anonymous No.23664605]

>>23664544
We invented AI powered sex robots and everyone had sex to death.

[Anonymous No.23664613]

>>23664544
good ol' atomic bombs, nothing beats that!

[Anonymous No.23664622]

>>23664544
meteor strike, nuclear war, pandemic, alien invasion (the aliens got bored and left)

[Anonymous No.23664711]

>>23664544
if the world has magic then think of some
>they delved too deeply and greedily
scenario

[Anonymous No.23664746]

>>23664544
They just ran out of resources vital to their infrastructure and things just splintered from there. Or have something like a religious figure came out of nowhere and caused a civilization-wide bonfire of the sciences.

[Anonymous No.23664756]

Eowyn killing the Witch King is one of the most incredible fantasy moments in literature and it's a warrior princess killing the most powerful servant of Sauron in the middle of the most pivotal battle to save middle earth. How is she not the primary woman archetype for female fantasy characters?

[Anonymous No.23664758]

>>23664544
Irresponsible genetic tampering turns humanity into super athletes w adhd

[Anonymous No.23664779]

>>23664756
>How is she not the primary woman archetype for female fantasy characters?
She is though? "Girl/young woman who is not allowed to fight but wants to anyway" is one of the most popular character types in fantasy.

[Anonymous No.23664793]

>>23664779
I guess Mulan does it too, but who else? Eowyn should be more well known as the archetype of this type of character and she isn't

[Anonymous No.23664883]

>Girl/young woman who is not allowed to fight but wants to anyway and learns why she shouldn't

[Anonymous No.23664885]

>>23662374
>When does the series get good?
It gets better. This doesn't however mean that it ever gets "good".

[Anonymous No.23664889]

>>23661471
>what is your favourite quirky civilisation?
USA

[Anonymous No.23664902]

>>23664883
>I read fantasy because I'm mad a women

[Anonymous No.23664906]

>>23664902
We already knew you're a mad a woman

[Anonymous No.23664918]

>Want to read a chinese novel but no epub available

[Anonymous No.23664920]

>>23664793
Aren't most tomboy chatacters like that to an extent? "I don't like girly-girl things, I want to fight with the men"? I feel that:s fairly common, or at least it was before female warriors became the expected thing in the ladt 10-20 years.

[Anonymous No.23664937]

>>23664920
Name some besides Eowyn and Mulan

[Anonymous No.23664946]

IS Throne of Magical Arcana worth reading?

[Anonymous No.23664989]

I love reincarnation stories but it's a pitty that nearly all of them are centred around man children and written so pooply.

[Anonymous No.23665007]

>>23664544
Ayys or humans or machines developed nanites controlled from orbit that infect every living thing and cause a stroke for anyone developing or thinking too much about tech above the iron age.

Alternatively, ayys send nanites to harvest or destroy any available copper and aluminium on the surface that shows up. Electricity = gone. Instant transport to the 19th century, massive population die-off due to supply chain disruption, and probably devolution from there because nobody actually remembers how to do anything the old way and the ones who might do will die from a lack of food and meds like everyone else.

[Anonymous No.23665020]

>>23664937
Arya Stark and Brienne
that one Disney princess from Brave
idk, I'm sure there must be others

[Anonymous No.23665049]

>>23662718
Divine Throne of Primordial Blood is probably the best one I've read with the generic ruthless protagonist with a cheat setup.
Otherwise I'd just recommend Mao Ni but he's more Wuxia

[Anonymous No.23665064]

>>23665020
So 5 examples that are very different ranging from 1955 to 2012?

Eowyn is still by far the first one starting in 1955 according to your logic

[Anonymous No.23665068]

>>23664503
>a plot twist
Sad!

[Anonymous No.23665074]

>>23661851
both options are good, it's the 3rd chalion book that falls off a bit imo and like the other anon said the Penric stories are great and still being published.

For vorkosgian while I'd suggest reading Shards and Barrayar first you can just start with the first miles book although it will 'spoil' some details of the previous stories.

[Anonymous No.23665088]

>>23665064
>Eowyn is still by far the first one starting in 1955 according to your logic
The Mulan story is from the 4th century you retard

[Anonymous No.23665146]

>>23665064
>Eowyn is still by far the first one starting in 1955 according to your logic
Never said she wasn't, though the other guy makes a good point.

[Anonymous No.23665167]

>>23663218
Probably a black man

[Anonymous No.23665170]

>>23665088
What specific story do have for that?

>>23665146
If we're talking about 20th century fantasy Eowyn is the prime example unless you consider Red Sonja from Shadow of the Vulture by Robert E Howard

[Anonymous No.23665192]

>>23661468
Do you guys like the Murderbot Diaries? I speedread the first one at 2 am in the morning. The mc is autistic as I am. I am bit worried this it turn into lgbt nonsense.

[Anonymous No.23665284]

>>23665192
Enjoyed it up to the novel, didn't finish the novel.
Not terrible just lost interest and never resumed

[Anonymous No.23665314]

>>23665192
Murderbot With a Heart of Gold and Nobody Understands Me Diaries. Wasn't for me.

[Anonymous No.23665341]

I wish Dahlias weak-ass child arms would have thrown the rape-baby harder, or maybe thrown a boulder after him
good riddance, everyone in this book is a fucking idiot
I guess the fourth edition isn't just terrible when it comes to the tabletop game
oh my god, I have one more book to go through with this shitty love triangle bullshit

[Anonymous No.23665350]

>>23664068
read it a while ago, i dno't remember much else other than i liked it. it's probably not among the best of wolfe but obviously very solid

[Anonymous No.23665381]

>>23664902
>I read manga because I'm mad at women.

[Anonymous No.23665447]

>reading some modern fantasy
>all the adventurers are straight and married with kids
>except the wizard is very gay
how much is acceptable to you before you drop something

[Anonymous No.23665527]

>>23665447
>wizard is very gay
Metaphysically based and initiationpilled

[Anonymous No.23665531]

>>23665447
As long as I don't have to read about explicit sex and I find the plot and characters interesting, I don't mind it, although almost everyone being a type of gay does get ridiculous and distracting.

[Anonymous No.23665536]

>>23665447
>>all the adventurers are straight and married with kids
What the hell are you reading? Everyone's some kind of rainbow queer these days.

[Anonymous No.23665540]

>>23665531
pretty much this, keep your sex in the bedroom and I'll respect whatever you want to do. But also I find it ridiculous when I read something and half the cast is gay, and then theres still a threadline about
>but society is also still extremely homophobic so lets kill all the homophobes

[Anonymous No.23665542]

>>23665536
Kings of the Wyld, I say modern but its 2017 so I guess thats just on the verge of the modern age. Something else I did read that was written in 2018 had the full rainbow

[Anonymous No.23665543]

>>23664503
That's literally every xianxia
>protagonist is weak/crippled
>protagonist finds cheat item
>protagonist finds better treasures and his cheat becomes obsolete or toned down
>>every high level cultivator finds a cheat of some kind, that's just fate
>protagonist was part of the dingdong bloodline that rules the universe
Bad novels simply use cultivation as a plot device to tell stories. Good xianxia is about true cultivation, the defiance of heaven, and the stories grow out of it.

[Anonymous No.23665547]

>>23664503
you just described Cradle

[Anonymous No.23665549]

>>23665543
whats a Xianxia with true cultivation starting with a normal protagonist that doesnt involve reincarnation which is also a cheat

[Anonymous No.23665552]

>>23665549
There is none.

[Anonymous No.23665562]

>>23665549
Way of Choices but he's not normal, he has fucked up meridians so the entirety of act 1 is him trying to find a way to even start cultivation.
And he does acquire unique stuff as the story goes on but its relatively earned.

[Anonymous No.23665577]

>>23665562
>what's x
>y, but it's not x
Thank you 50iq-sama

[Anonymous No.23665583]

>>23665577
it's a close as you're gonna get you whiny little cunt

[Anonymous No.23665585]

>>23665583
Bullshit, there are tons of xianxia-romance novels that have normal cultivator protagonists

[Anonymous No.23665599]

>>23665585
I don't read yaoi, sorry.

[Anonymous No.23665682]

Does it deserve the bad reputation it has these days?

[Anonymous No.23665692]

>>23665682
Low-IQ books for low-IQ readers. Simple as.

[Anonymous No.23665699]

>>23665542
> Kings of the Wyld
Good book. Shit sequal. Rose is a cunt

[Anonymous No.23665731]

>>23665447
Any gay shit is not acceptable

[Anonymous No.23665736]

>>23665682
High-IQ books for high-IQ readers. Simple as.

[Anonymous No.23665739]

>>23665549
>normal protagonist
Cultivation is defying heavens, normal people even if they cultivate they always fail, even exceptional people fail often. Writing a xanxia novel about a normal person, using normal means tocultivate and failing just makes no sense.

[Anonymous No.23665742]

>>23665699
>>Good book. Shit sequal. Rose is a cunt
that sounds exactly like how Aching God turned out. Great first book, daughter turned out to be a cunt and became feminist fantasy. Well at least I can just drop it after I finish then.

[Anonymous No.23665746]

>>23663875
liar
or a retard, either way

[Anonymous No.23665782]

>>23664544

[Anonymous No.23665786]

>>23665682
>bad reputation it has these days
what

[Anonymous No.23665787]

>>23665782
That's just planet of the apes

[Anonymous No.23665788]

>>23664544
isnt that pretty common setting? its post nuclear war, have everyone on other continents be dead except for one and civilization rebooted from there
iron age people dig up guns and think its magic

[Anonymous No.23665789]

>>23665682
That cover reminds me of the Dali artwork.

[Anonymous No.23665826]

>>23664544
Everyone forgets their password.

[Anonymous No.23665829]

>>23665826
>everyone loses their device with 2FA on it

[Anonymous No.23665846]

>>23665826
that's literally how severian becomes leader in BoTNS

[Anonymous No.23666102]

>>23665739
what’s the deal with xianxia powers either being extremely straightforward to the extreme or esoteric nonsense you’d have to study Laozi, the Four Great Novels of Chinese literature, and Chinese weird folklore for 2 years to understand? especially with the case that the more schizo esoteric powers are, the more powerful they become in general.

[Anonymous No.23666201]

Kubindi: "Up for the downstroke!"

[Anonymous No.23666209]

I finished reading Django Wexler's most recent trilogy, Burning Blade & Silver Eye, comprised of three novels: Ashes of the Sun, Blood of the Chosen, and Emperor of Ruin. Here's my condensed thoughts on it.

So, this is marketed as fantasy, but it smacks of sci-fi in a lot of ways. There's supernatural powers, but they are funneled into technological developments like genetic engineering, flying cars, blaster rifles, etc. The story takes place in the remnants of an empire once ruled by an elder race known as the Chosen, now ruled over by a human republic and an order of, well, basically like Jedi Knights but with more spectacular and flashy powers. They even have an iconic weapon that is just a handle with a magic blade that comes out of it.

The story follows two siblings, a brother, Gyre, and his younger sister, Maya, who are initially opposed to one another due to being tragically and traumatically separated in early childhood. Maya was raised by the Twilight Order (the Jedi guys) on account of having the same vanishingly rare powers they do, which is the reason they abducted her as a toddler. Gyre was permanently maimed in that abduction, and swore vengeance against the Order, leading to him joining a variety of would-be rebels against the republic. They start off as enemies in book 1, but by book 2 they're cooperating (tenuously), and in book 3 they are steadfast allies united against a common foe.

I feel like I was teased with a dramatic brother vs sister fated conflict plot but it never really pans out. The larger background conflict involving the elder races and their 400 year old war is what really drives the plot and over the course of the novels is what supplants the personal conflicts. The world building behind it is pretty decent, though I found the plot twists rather easy to predict.

This is the second series by Wexler that I have read, and so now I can confidently say that he definitely likes lesbians, and seems to feature gratuitous lesbian sex in as many novels as possible. I felt it was wildly out of place in the Shadow Campaigns, but less so in this series, except that he redoubled his efforts at inclusion by making 2/3 characters homosexual or bisexual. That's not an exaggeration, either. Maya's group in book 1 is composed of 4 people, 3/4 are gay, including Maya. While there are male homosexuals, none of them have intimate scenes, while virtually EVERY lesbian couple among the named cast do have intimate scenes.

To be sure, there's some hetero content as well. Gyre is straight, and has multiple lovers, but man one of them tests your patience. Kit is a character I haven't mentioned so far, because I'd rather not remember her. I think 90% of her dialogue is raunchy innuendo. I'm no prude, but it gets very tiresome when it's not well written and often is used to spoil the mood of a scene.

Also, the series ends rather abruptly, without much care given to exploring various characters' lives. It just stops, like this review.

[Anonymous No.23666226]

>>23665682
Yes, the vast majority of fantasy is painfully banal. And books like TCON are to blame. Honestly lns, litrpg, xianxia and loli have been a breath of fresh air.

[Anonymous No.23666230]

>>23666209
Thanks for your review. I will internalize this and use it in my decision making going forward as a rational human being.

[Anonymous No.23666233]

>>23666102
They are all pretty straightforward. Which novel are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.23666239]

>>23666209
It got annoying in the shadow campaign for sure. I have so far refused to read any of his other books because LGBT or queer is one of the top tags on Goodreads. One of my pet peeves with books is when they are jam packed with homos.

[Anonymous No.23666248]

>>23666239
>I have so far refused to read any of his other books because LGBT or queer is one of the top tags on Goodreads. One of my pet peeves with books is when they are jam packed with homos.
why do you think we care stop blogging

[Anonymous No.23666261]

>>23666239
A Thousand Names was great and then in the second book he turns his napoleonic warfare story into nothing but stornk womyn and lesbians, fuck this guy

[Anonymous No.23666262]

>>23666239
The lesbian drama in Shadow Campaigns is a big negative factor for me in wanting to reread it. It's sad, because I felt that The Thousand Names was really solid Napoleonic fantasy. I was willing to pick up this series because I was sort of hoping Wexler got the lesbian fetish out of his system with Shadow Campaigns, but clearly he was just getting warmed up. I kept with it because the rest of it was solidly written. It's a very peculiar case where I think it would be easy to edit the books in such a way to remove all the LGBT stuff and it'd still be completely comprehensible and enjoyable.

[Anonymous No.23666269]

>>23666261
He pivots hard from great military fantasy that is a clear allusion to Napoleon in Egypt to doing The French Revolution but with loud angry lesbians.

[Anonymous No.23666336]

>>23666209
>while virtually EVERY lesbian couple among the named cast do have intimate scenes.
I will now buy your book.

[Anonymous No.23666343]

Name one contemporary (2023-2024) western fantasy book without faggotry. I'll wait

[Anonymous No.23666362]

>>23666343
Will of the Many. Which is surprising since it's heavily Greek inspired.

[Anonymous No.23666369]

>>23666262
> clearly he was just getting warmed up
I suspected that was the case. A lot of authors seem to tone it down for their first few books to reach a wider audience.
> it would be easy to edit the books in such a way to remove all the LGBT stuff and it'd still be completely comprehensible and enjoyable.
Many such cases. Write gay books or write fantasy books. I just don't want to read gay fantasy in the same way I don't want to read romance fantasy

[Anonymous No.23666381]

So, Anthony Ryan is just GRRM lite now? He speedran Danenerys arc for the antagonist in this series.

[Anonymous No.23666445]

>>23666343

[Anonymous No.23666474]

>>23666381
Anthony Ryan is pozzed. I fell for his Blood Song series once, I won't make the same mistake again.

[Anonymous No.23666486]

>>23666474
Was about to check this guy out. How pozzed are we talking?

[Anonymous No.23666501]

>>23666336
There's nothing very spicy, just a few "PG-13" style makeout sessions that "fade to black" just as things start to get good. Afterwards you might get commentary that alludes to really wild goings-on in the bedroom but you're never shown anything.

In short, it's what the kids today call "safe horny". Wexler can't commit to writing lesbian smut even though I get the impression that's what he really wants to do as an author.

[Anonymous No.23666504]

>>23661491
I just started reading these. Exactly the type of fantasy I've been looking for. So far it's excellent and fun and filled with the spirit of classic sword & sorcery fiction.

I kept getting this feeling that Warcraft 3 was inspired by Gotrek and Felix. The dates are close 1999 release of the first Gotrek and Felix stories and 2002 Warcraft 3 release. The chain lightning spells, the grotesque undead monsters, the burly dwarves and civilized humans. It's far more enjoyable than any of the Warcraft books I've read so far.

Of course I dig some more and found out that the Gotrek & Felix author also wrote some Warcraft books haha.

[Anonymous No.23666505]

What is the recommended reading order for the Elric of Melnibone series, and are there any omnibuses (omnibi?) I should no about before I go hunting down variorums (variora?)?

[Anonymous No.23666507]

>>23666381
For me, it's how the ending was basically just a setup for a sequel series.

[Anonymous No.23666510]

What is the recommended reading order for the Elric of Melnibone series, and are there any omnibuses (omnibi?) I should know about before I go hunting down variorums (variora?)?

[Anonymous No.23666513]

>>23666510
>>23666505
It was not worth deleting your post over that minor a typo, FYI.

[Anonymous No.23666515]

>>23666369
I'm not really opposed to having gay characters, I just think it's ridiculous when more than half the characters in the book are some flavor of queer. It makes you wonder how the population avoided dying out when there's hardly any breeding going on.

[Anonymous No.23666519]

>>23661724
Humanity has regressed so much that the casual adventure novels of a 20 year old kid in Texas that he wrote for "weird fiction" garbage rags have better prose, creativity, characterization and soul than a single modern fantasy book written since Tolkien.

People online will ask "what new sword and sorcery fantasy books are out there?" And you see people recommending silly trash like Kings of the Wyld and Blacktongue Thief (both garbage books). It's sad how far the genre has fallen.

How have we lost that pure spark of masculinity and magic? Men who appreciate the poetry of good prose. Who study history. Who write stories that stir their hearts and tell tales of mighty men crushing their enemies and loving the most beautiful women in the land. To write something so true and pure of the masculine spirit is unimaginable to the modern writer.

[Anonymous No.23666523]

>>23666513
Someone was talking to me as I was typing and it made me look retarded :(

[Anonymous No.23666526]

>>23666501
No that's actually perfect
Too much detail is cringe 99% of the time

[Anonymous No.23666530]

>>23665192
Wells writes surprisingly good action scenes, and she isn't afraid of brutally murdering the "bad guys". She really knows how to pace a good action scene. She writes more masculine action than your average male sci fi and fantasy writer.

But then she also gets all sentimental, and weepy and snarkily emotional with some of her character interactions.

[Anonymous No.23666546]

>>23666526
There's pretty much no detail though. It's just implied sex, not vaguely described sex. And then you have one character that constantly snoops on everyone else's love life and makes really crass comments about it the next morning. Without fail, happens every time. It's so formulaic. He book ends every single intimate scene with some emotional foreplay, fades to black, then has his sex commentary character come out to waggle her eyebrows and deliver crude innuendo.

If he's going to insist on this half-assed way of writing sex I at least wish he'd get better at writing foreplay. Or find a way to do the "morning after" scene that didn't reduce sexual congress to the level of a fart joke.

[Anonymous No.23666554]

>>23666523
Who cares? You're anonymous.

[Anonymous No.23666576]

>>23666546
>reduce sexual congress to the level of a fart joke.
Any excerpt to dissuade me?

[Anonymous No.23666688]

>>23666486
Pretty fucking pozzed. The very first book of his Blood Song series was absolute kino and this was done on purpose to deceive the reader. After that it went straight from based to pozzed, think of gay shit, lesbian shit, stong wahmen etc. Even disregarding all the pozzed shit, the story itself, world building, magic and fanfasy aspect were poorly executed. The first book was a good introduction to magic and the world but the later books didn't continue developing any of it. Ryan just stopped at the introduction and instead spent all his efforts on pozz.
The following series about dragons or something was even worse. The mc was some poc and the world felt like something straight out of liberal dystopia.
Ryan didn't even bother trying to deceive the reader, I guess people already knew he's pozzed so there was no point in doing it.

[Anonymous No.23666697]

>>23666666

[Anonymous No.23666793]

>>23666688
I see you've put some effort into this post. Can you now try writing it again in english instead of meaningless buzzwords that give me no information.

[Anonymous No.23666813]

>>23666793
The site really needs to update its word filters.
Onions

[Anonymous No.23666873]

>>23666793
Thanks. It's pozzed. That's all you need to know.

[Anonymous No.23666901]

>>23664756
>How is she not the primary woman archetype for female fantasy characters?
she was but only in older fantasy
Angharad "Harry" Crewe in The Blue Sword
Laurana in Dragonlance
Aerin in the Hero and The Crown
Del in Tiger and Del
Every female character in Valdemar
Gil Patterson in Darwath
Anghara in Indigo by Louise Cooper
Star Hawk in Sunwolf and StarHawk
Paks in Deed of Paksenarrion
Sedry in Princess of Flames
Ylia in Tales of tha Nedao
Chronicles of the Cheysuli (spanning many generations with a new mc in every book and like half of the mcs are strong women)
Basically every female mc by Anne McCaffrey
Frostflower and Thorn, in Frostflower and Thorn by Phyllis Ann Karr
Faia in Arhel Trilogy.
Irissa in Six of of Swords
A lot of them in True Game Series by Sheri Tepper
The Adventures Of Alyx by Joanna Russ
Jame in Kencyrath
Marion Zimmer Bradley's entire career was based on doing strong women
Silverglass by J.F. Rivkin
These are the ones i can remember right now but Eowyn served as the inspiration of many, many more strong female warriors.

[Anonymous No.23666942]

>>23666793
I can imagine the seething as you typed this

[Anonymous No.23666947]

>>23666688
>Ryan didn't even bother trying to deceive the reader, I guess people already knew he's pozzed so there was no point in doing it.
Ryan is a very mercerany author, he just wants to get that paycheck so he writes the most generic shit possible and mixes it with what's hot on booktok/twitter/goodreads.

[Anonymous No.23666992]

>>23664544
Arbitrarily advanced, alien dictator purges humanity out of disgust because humans are too obsessed with sex.

[Anonymous No.23667019]

Does anyone know where I can find this for cheap? There are a couple copies on Ebay but they look like they have been covered in shit...

[Anonymous No.23667024]

>>23667019
goddammit

[Anonymous No.23667079]

>>23661468
Do I not like science fiction? some I have read:

>The foundation. Non-characters. Slog to finish it.
>Dune. Dropped after the second.
>Do androids dream of electric sheeps. Fine.
>Red Rising series. My favorite so far.
>Enders game. Dropped on the second.
>The expanse. Dnf.
I always end up dropping long series. I read the first book but lose interest in the sequels. I am so tired of plots that revolve around investigating old civilizations' ruins.

I like characters first, plot second. If I don't connect with the characters, I lose interest.
I have read Ursula K. has good characterization. I don't know where to start with her works. Which do you guys recommend?

[Anonymous No.23667083]

Is this readable enough?

[Anonymous No.23667090]

im in the mood for a fun xianxia/prog fantasy but i can't find anything i really /want/ to read and i don't have much downloaded on my kindle. i got 300 something chapters into against the gods a few months back but the MC is too OP and already has multiple wives so meh.

[Anonymous No.23667116]

>>23661468
I am currently reading Murderbot Diaries' second book. The writer is using the pronoun "ter" to refer to a person with a gender called "tercera." Is it time to drop it?

[Anonymous No.23667134]

>>23667116
yes

[Anonymous No.23667159]

>>23667116
>reads scifi
>scifi concepts come up
>wtf chudsissies time to drop it?!?!

[Anonymous No.23667164]

>>23667079
>I like characters first, plot second.
You'd be better off picking a different genre than sci-fi, then. Sci-fi is all about plot / setting / concept. Characters are an afterthought, and if they're good, it's not usually on purpose.

[Anonymous No.23667170]

>>23666504
Warcraft began as a Warhammer videogame that was hastily redesigned into its own thing partway through development after a disagreement resulted in the devs losing rights to the Warhammer IP. It still had a lot of Warhammer in its DNA when Warcraft 3 was made, though Warcraft 3 was also the turning point when it started really developing its identity as something more than a generic Warhammer knockoff.

[Anonymous No.23667178]

>>23662374

[Anonymous No.23667180]

>>23667159
How can the future have people with a third gender when statistically trannies kill themselves a lot more than the average population?

[Anonymous No.23667190]

>>23666510
There are collected forms of the Elric series, and I understand you're asking specifically for Elric. However I think the best collection is the Millenium collection of the Eternal Champions series. You get the entire spread of Elric in two volumes: Elric of Melnibone and Stormbringer. You also get so much more context and a great encapsulation of the entire sequence which most people disregard for the sake of focusing on that wonderfully Byronic prince. I especially love Von Bek.

I shall now link first the collection of Millenium printed works, then a separate one that is just the Elric series in publishing order, including its myriad reprints.

https://isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pubseries.cgi?640

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?644

[Anonymous No.23667191]

>>23667159
>>23667180
reminds me of how people in SS13 come up with their own urban lingo. like when they call the scalies "liggers", which is pretty funny but I don't think I would add it to my book.

[Anonymous No.23667211]

What am I in for?

[Anonymous No.23667214]

>>23667180
that's why is science FICTION you damn sissie

[Anonymous No.23667218]

>>23667180
that's why is science FICTION you damn sissy

[Anonymous No.23667231]

>>23667079
I know you said you dislike long series, so I'll drop Vorkosigan first just to get it out of the way. It is a saga but its very much following a set of characters you come to love despite or because of their flaws.

For more one and done works you could read Player of Games without reading any other Culture novel. One man being forced to commit cultural warfare against an alien race over sheer moral superiority and his own internal struggle as he comes to understand the other race more and more as he simultaneously destroys it. John Steakley's Armor is an intensely psychological look at a heroic man who uses power armor. Cherryh's oeuvre is very character focused, I'd start with something like Rim Runners.

Ursula K is a bit cattycornered for what you want particularly. She does focus on characters but its because the characters themselves represent the plot. The Lathe of Heaven does explore Orr as exploring unintended consequences of the well-wisher, and I'd recommend starting there if you want something New Wave but not in space. The Left hand of Darkness also looks at characters to explore themes of gender and society, and I'd recommend starting there or with Dispossessed to get something with a little more space-age to it.

[Anonymous No.23667281]

>>23667231
Thanks for the elaborated response. I was actually on the verge of starting Shards of Honour. I was worried I would get bored at the sequels (again) but I guess I will give it a try.

Added the rest to the list.

[Anonymous No.23667323]

>>23667231
Yeah I've heard the starting point with le Guin, if one axes Earthsea from the list are basically

>the Hainish cycle from the beginning or start from Left Hand.

>The Dispossessed if you're up for something really odd

>The Lathe of Heaven if you just want to explore something not in space but 100% New Wave.

I haven't quite bitten down on le Guin yet but I hear she's been co-opted by lefties and commies so I'm not sure how good her work is.

Anyways, /sffg/ what's a good area to start with in terms of good sci-fi/fantasy for the late 90s-21st century. I've heard Ian Banks, Alastair Reynolds, and Adrian Tchaikovsky a ton. Same with Egan, Liu, Chiang, Mieville, and Vandermeer.

[Anonymous No.23667330]

>>23661724
read "worms of the earth". GOAT Howard story

[Anonymous No.23667336]

>>23667330
The Valley of the Worm is good too.

[Anonymous No.23667337]

>>23667323
le guin *was* a socialist, she wasn't co-opted. and she churned out masterpieces like it was nothing. read LHOD

[Anonymous No.23667351]

>>23662624
I remember reading it after listening to the song by Blind Guardian. I liked it quite a bit. There's some moments I recall as being beautifully described, and by nature of being an adventure through simulated realities, the scenes are really imaginative and varied. I do recall it takes the better half of the first book to really get going, however.

[Anonymous No.23667352]

>>23667090
Otherworldly Evil Monarch
First 90 chapters or so don't have a regular translator, so the quality varies, then it gets picked up by one of the translation groups. Also I've read this upto chapter 500, after which it (supposedly) gets worse due to new arc being planned poorly and the author going full schizo about Chinese/Japanese relationship. I can't personally confirm this though.

[Anonymous No.23667359]

>>23667211
The ones starring Ged are good, the women not so much

[Anonymous No.23667399]

>>23667191
it’s a shame most servers have banned that term

[Anonymous No.23667450]

>>23667190
Thanks anon this looks perfect

[Anonymous No.23667475]

Anyone can think of things that have a supernatural threat > trained combatants > hobo with a dagger > supernatural exterminator > supernatural threat > ... etc dynamic? Fantasy or sci-fi either.

[Anonymous No.23667520]

>>23667475
why would a supernatural exterminator lose to a hobo with a dagger

[Anonymous No.23667528]

>>23662294
SOVL!
>>23662253
Senlin Ascends

[Anonymous No.23667555]

>>23667520
Because they're not using mundane means/powers that work on humans to combat those, and maybe not necessarily lose in every situation but it would be a threat. Especially if they're a woman and/or young, can also swap out dagger for a projectile weapon if it's sci-fi instead of fantasy.

[Anonymous No.23667556]

>syl spends the entire chapter human sized and talking with kaladin's parents
Kaladin is going to be banging her before the end of the book thanks to based Ishar's science experiments

[Anonymous No.23667616]

>>23665447
But the gay wizard in Kings of the Wyld wasn’t obnoxious though, anon?
He definitely has the ‘whacky zany wizard shenanigans archetype’ and that might grate, but him being gay isn’t used to have him constantly slobbering over cock. He’s just a dude who loved his husband a lot and has a single-minded goal to help the world with a problem he failed to help his husband with.
I’m something of a fag-hater myself, but if every cocksucking queer was written like him I wouldn’t mind fag characters as much. Him being gay is part of his character but it’s not his ENTIRE character.

[Anonymous No.23667636]

>>23667616
>He’s just a dude who loved his husband
that's a category error

[Anonymous No.23667687]

>>23667019
AbeBooks, Barnes & Noble

[Anonymous No.23667720]

>>23662390
No, because A Fire Upon The Deep is better.

[Anonymous No.23667762]

>>23667337
found the Discord poster.

I take it that, like Moorcock, she didn't prioritize politsperging.

[Anonymous No.23667808]

>>23667211
I've only read the first three and it was very underwhelming.
First was just ok, second was actually pretty good, third was a shittier rehash of the first. I had to force myself through it and haven't yet felt compelled to continue on after that one. She writes in an imo extremely forced style with overly wordy and flowery sentences just for the sake of it. There's barely any real characterization of the characters and they all feel like simple cardboard cutouts. I get that it's intended for a younger audience and it definitely shows. As someone not blinded by nostalgia and reading them as an adult who's read a lot of other fantasy I couldn't get into it. I still want to continue with the remaining three some day but it'll probably be a while before that happens.

[Anonymous No.23667916]

>>23667330
merry and gnome-pilled

[Anonymous No.23667965]

I'm a zoomer and I've barely read any books in my life. Gimme some sci-fi must reads please.

[Anonymous No.23667969]

>>23667965
dune I guess

[Anonymous No.23668003]

>>23667720
objectively wrong, but I respect your opinion

[Anonymous No.23668007]

>>23667969
>otter

[Anonymous No.23668028]

>>23667965
The Stars My Destination
Starship Troopers
Emphyrio

[Anonymous No.23668062]

Do you have a recommendation if I liked Reverend insanity?

Not necessarily a xianxia or a novel since they are mostly bad to be honest.

What I liked is that the protagonist is ruthless without being some edgelord, while not being a Mary Sue, he has clear advantages but that stop here.

In addition there is a plot and believable characters, that the usual recommended novels doesn't have

I already read lotm.

If possible, the prose shouldn't be difficult to read like Bakker

[Anonymous No.23668067]

>>23667556
>Anno Domini 2024
>Still vasculating Sanderonni's mental methane
Future prognostication: GRIM

[Anonymous No.23668111]

>>23668062
Shoot yourself in the head, bakkerfag. There is no analogy nor allegory nor metaphor.

[Anonymous No.23668155]

>>23668067
It's sunk cost, I'm literally incapable of dropping any of the media I started in high school

[Anonymous No.23668239]

>Nightwatcher / Dafeng’s Night Squad
didn't expect much but this thing is so fucking funny.

[Anonymous No.23668281]

>>23666445
Wasn't the point of cradle that it's xianxia with faggotry?

[Anonymous No.23668292]

>>23668062
Little Girl Strike

[Anonymous No.23668296]

>>23665786
Have you been under a rock for like 25 years? Narnia fell out of favor awhile ago. The question if it's with good reason or not.

[Anonymous No.23668329]

>it's peak
Why does /sff/ continue to lie about this novel?

[Anonymous No.23668341]

>>23662725
cool books with a female protagonist is a contradiction

[Anonymous No.23668382]

>>23668296
Didn't happen, it's just a YA series that actually stays confined to YA readers unlike the modern ones

[Anonymous No.23668387]

>>23668329
Why do you have to lie? It's consistently and widely low rated.

[Anonymous No.23668419]

>>23668329
First and second book are good for what they are, comfy basic classic YA fantasy. After that it takes an extreme downturn as he decided to split the last book into two. They are bloated messes full of pointless side plots that lead nowhere, and to top it off one of the most unsatisfactory deus ex endings ever.

[Anonymous No.23668422]

>>23668419
>12 is YA
Kill yourself pedo. Also I'm talking about the first novel which is kino.

[Anonymous No.23668426]

>>23668329
it's peak shit

[Anonymous No.23668431]

>>23668422
retard

[Anonymous No.23668440]

>>23668431
>>23668426
>>23668422
>>23668419
>>23668387
700K+ people (who are smarter than you) disagree.
Keep lying though.

[Anonymous No.23668445]

Is mother of learning a xianxia? I see it recommended on goodreads after looking at coiling dragon. I don't think it starts as one, but does it turn into one?

[Anonymous No.23668446]

>>23668440
>who are smarter than you
>goodreads reviewer
HAHAHAHHA OH NO NO NO

[Anonymous No.23668452]

>>23668446
Being an edgy nazi incel doesn't make you smart. It actually makes you dumb.

[Anonymous No.23668458]

>>23668452
says the dumb retard

[Anonymous No.23668579]

>blocked from posting a rating on a fiction
Ummm royalroad kittens??

[Anonymous No.23668581]

>>23668579
>blocking wojack doll players
Based

[Anonymous No.23668584]

>>23668445
If I remember right, the characters get better at magic by their soul growing through reincarnations and practice. I don't think it involves much hand-to-hand or xianxia type combat apart from that.

[Anonymous No.23668585]

>>23668581

[Anonymous No.23668586]

>>23668584
>the characters get better at magic by their soul growing through reincarnations and practice
That's xianxia

[Anonymous No.23668588]

What's the world record for largest object used when sounding? I thinking I can beat it.

[Anonymous No.23668594]

>>23668586
So it's not xianxia only when all the powers are inherently gained with no training, practice or struggle. And it's xianxia when the character improves on something, including crafting, sewing and pissing in stupid anons mouths on /sffg/?

[Anonymous No.23668599]

>a is when x
>so a is when b c d e f and g, you stupid faggot
no you for you, make better posts.

[Anonymous No.23668612]

>>23668599
how very passive-agressive and tranny of you shitposter

[Anonymous No.23668622]

>>23667528
Josiah Bancroft is a shitlib.

[Anonymous No.23668624]

>>23661468
So, recently, I have been reading the Barsoom series from Edgar Rice Burroughs and I couldn't help but notice the similarities and paralellisms between the Character of John Carter and some older conceptions of Hernan Cortrs.

Both Cortes and Carter got into a new world, were sorrounded by hostile individualds that they rallied together in order to defeat bigger enemies, a barbaric religion that demanded constant sacrifices for an idol and taught them the ways of compassion, love and honor, thus earning great renown and the affections of several women.

In some older portrayals of Cortes (Including his own Cartas de Relacion), he's shown to be daring, ambitous and stern, yet heroic, honorable and insanely lucky, much like Carter. Plus, now that I write it down the last name of both sound kinda similar.

Has anyone drawn similar comparisons to this one? is there some literature behind this?

In any case, it would be interesting to further look into the archetype of hero that Carter represents, and see if his portrayal is, in fact, informed by the stories of conquistadors.

[Anonymous No.23668627]

>>23668440
They're irrelevant.
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show_book/1029811-sffg?book_id=113436

[Anonymous No.23668633]

>>23668111
I literally said not Bakker

[Anonymous No.23668635]

>>23668627
>intellectuals and women 5/5
>anime pfps and third worlders 1-4/5
Really gets the noggin joggin.

[Anonymous No.23668647]

>>23668627
>No RI
meme group, not to be taken seriously.

[Anonymous No.23668671]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvcSwTJmSpw

[Anonymous No.23668676]

>>23668671
This isn't facebook

[Anonymous No.23668684]

>>23668647
>rewarding ritual posts
No.

[Anonymous No.23669150]

>>23667965
Foundation, Foundation and Empire, Second Foundation
by Isaac Asimov

[Anonymous No.23669357]

>>23665192
I read 3 or 5 of them
it kept my interest the whole way
does a good job and, while its in my opinion lower tier reading though above slop, it left me wanting to still read more of it

[Anonymous No.23669380]

What are some convincing causes that could lead a planet to fall into an Ice Age? I mean even along the equator, how could that happen?

[Anonymous No.23669408]

just look up earths ice ages and their reasons for happening

[Anonymous No.23669531]

>>23668281
I didn't read the last book in Cradle so maybe he added something in Waybound but there's no gay people up to that point.

[Anonymous No.23669603]

>>23669531

[Anonymous No.23669654]

>>23661491
sometime between the summer of 2019 and that year's Christmas, I became enamoured with Warhammer: bought some 30 or 40 books, a couple of painting sets (finished all of them and confirmed that my lack of artistic skills is what prevents me from being considered a polymath), saw a gargantuan amount of videos, to the point where, a mere two weeks after it all started, I was an expert.

But you know what? I never really got around to reading the novels. I read the first Horus Heresy and The Founding (Dan Abnett). Yet my eyes seem always to be captured, when I am walking through my library (its size occupies oe big room in my house), by Gotrek and Felix. Should I read it ASAP (after I've finished what I am reading now, Salammbô? I feel trapped between this odd unwillingness to read it and the feeling that I will love the book if I ever rally the will needed to actually pick it up and read it.
I must say this has happened to me before: to having loved a book which took me ages to decide to read it.

[Anonymous No.23669660]

>>23668452
>edgy nazi incel
Don't you shit-tits realize you lost the second you pull out the twatter buzzwords?

[Anonymous No.23669679]

>>23667965

Way Station & City by Simak
High Crusade & Brain Wave by Poul Anderson
Dying Earth & Demon Princes by Jack Vance
Double Star & The Moon is a Harsh Mistress by Heinlein

THe Long Tomorrow by Brackett, Lest Darkness fall by de Camp, Ringworld by Nive, Rogue Moon by Budrys

[Anonymous No.23669689]

>I'm an edgy nazi incel and I think if you use words that accurately describe me that means you lose
No you for you. Learn how to construct a legitimate argument.

[Anonymous No.23669715]

Read Tenebroum

[Anonymous No.23669717]

>>23666515
>I'm not really opposed to having gay characters
r/fantasy is that way

[Anonymous No.23669721]

>>23667090
Cultivation Chat Group.
The King's Avatar
Advent of Immortal Truth

[Anonymous No.23669732]

>>23669717
ok chuddie

[Anonymous No.23669733]

>>23668062
>Do you have a recommendation if I liked Reverend insanity?
The author has a new novel

[Anonymous No.23669770]

>>23668579
many writers block you from reviewing if you write a critical comment
honestly disgusting gaming of the system
so if it's shit review before writing a comment under a cheaper

I also got blocked by some pussies after exposing this behaviour in the forums
the amount of crying in the thread after just one short OP was funny, especially since I never even responded to the thread (funnies was lots of projection of me being a failed author)
but I think the thread was deleted, RR doesn't want people to know how fake the reviews are and how much authors game the system

another problem is that low star reviews get fake reported and their automatic report review process is shit (I got a review with spoilers removed, even though there was a warning that review contains spoilers, meanwhile reviews with spoilers with no warning get left alone if they are positive)

ironically amazon and goodreads have better, more honest reviews (just mentally filter all the PC pissfits from soibois and all women reviews)

[Anonymous No.23669772]

>>23667965
Stars My Destinetiona/ Tiger Tiger! by Alfred Bester

[Anonymous No.23669788]

>>23667965
The Stars My Destination/ Tiger Tiger! by Alfred Bester

[Anonymous No.23669858]

>>23669733
His new novel is terrible.

[Anonymous No.23669897]

The Chinese are retarded. We told them if you want tech progress to invest in science fiction and they said alright and the only thing they've made is xianxia. Congrats in 30 years your autists will be poisoning themselves with "immortal pills" instead of becoming scientists.

[Anonymous No.23669906]

>>23669858
I like it better than most reverend insanity arcs

[Anonymous No.23670053]

>>23669897
xianxia isn't that popular tbf it just gets translated
majority of the webnovel market is romances

[Anonymous No.23670090]

starting to give away my books that I don't intend to read. le Guin's first Earthsea book is on the fence. I do like her sci-fi, should I read this book? I'm mostly hesitant because it's part of a series and I don't have a lot of time to read books in a series these days

[Anonymous No.23670096]

>>23669788
checked, what a cool cover. and yes, this book is good (and a classic that stands the test of time).

[Anonymous No.23670105]

>>23669717
If anything you are the newfag. GRI is a time-honored /sffg/ seal of approval.

[Anonymous No.23670114]

How is Wolfe's The Knight and The Wizard? I've never read his stuff before

[Anonymous No.23670117]

>>23670105
sure faggot

[Anonymous No.23670119]

>>23670090
It's LeGuin's best work imho

[Anonymous No.23670121]

>>23670117
>doesn't even know what GRI means
I rest my case, tourist.

[Anonymous No.23670122]

>>23670053
>anon pulls shit out of his ass
You wouldn't have thousands of xianxia imitators writing the same template novel over and over if it wasn't popular

[Anonymous No.23670125]

>>23669897
No, they just committed cultural suicide under Mao and their literature never recovered. They've had to start over from nothing. The censorship regime in China also prevents any real exploration of ideas, so stories are confined to vapid nonsense. Xianxia and Wuxia shit gets made because it has flavors of "traditional" Chinese culture mixed in with it, but only in the most superficial sense. It's basically China doing minstrel shows of their own culture because they have no direct connection to it.

[Anonymous No.23670127]

>>23670121
Gay, Rape, and Incest retard. It was always just a forced meme

[Anonymous No.23670129]

>>23670127
t. bitter reddit tourist angered to find out he's not in 'based trad' company like he thought

smells like post-2016 newfaggotry

[Anonymous No.23670140]

>>23670129
>retard doesn't think people can spot his shitty forced meme

[Anonymous No.23670190]

>>23666519
I am ashamed to confess that I, an avid reader and fan of Conan (comic books), have never read Conan in prose, but I will, immediately after posting this, go on my bookseller and buy everything he has of Robert E. Howard.

Now, about the humanity having regressed viewpoint. I often am surrounded by art created a long time ago. The other day, for instance, I had in my hands a very old edition of Gibbon's The Decline and Fall, and I was seized by the following thought: can you imagine the work the man needed to perform to finish his masterpiece? Now, look at where we are now: info is all over the place, books are cheap.
This considered, think about what sort of books are being produced about, say, the same topic Gibbon wrote so eloquently and abundantly about...250 years ago. Look at the calibre of things produced/authored/thought about today, compare it to same things produced a long time ago?
It is correct to believe that the massification of information has not enlarged the with nor deepen the depth of the average person's intelligence.

Off i go to order some Robert E. Howard novels.

[Anonymous No.23670203]

>>23670122
you can just look at jinjiang city yourself instead of making assumptions

[Anonymous No.23670217]

>>23669770
tbf RR is infamous for negative reviews being left by rivals on burners

So many bad scoring reviews complaining about grammar that can't actually explain the problem or cite an example if they get questioned about it.

[Anonymous No.23670224]

Holy shit guys, Pothfuss' draft just leaked

https://docs.google.com/document/d/17QTNZfk14XRNAUWfofr0uHiyXBqtgyu6vvZnT5_RwdQ/edit

[Anonymous No.23670236]

>>23670224
sloppy seconds

[Anonymous No.23670237]

>>23670224

[Anonymous No.23670321]

>>23669380
If you're looking at more SciFi methods, ayys (or the inhabitants themselves) erecting an orbital solar shield to reduce insolation and being unable to remove it/vastly underestimating the speed of the cooling chain reaction that resulted. Or a rogue planet being captured by the star and increasing the orbital distance of the planet in question (and fuck up the orbits of every other planet in that system too).

If you want to be boring about it and copy Earth, just the natural change in orbital distance of the planet, or a set of massive volcanic eruptions that pump enough ash and sulfur into the atmosphere as to drop mean global temps.

[Anonymous No.23670494]

>>23670125
>westard fascist tells you about how china does shit
>never studied china in his life
Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.23670512]

>>23667090
i settled on world of cultivation! i'm 50 something chapters in. zuo mo just became an inner sect disciple.

[Anonymous No.23670517]

>>23670122
What kind of retard logic is this? Isekai is popular. It still doesn't mean romance doesn't dominate the genre.
In the English realm, Romance sits at the top and DOUBLES the sales of sci-fi and fantasy, the second highest grossing genre.
>lowly cultivator pulls shit out of his ass
Kowtow before me four times as an apology and I will only cripple your meridians for one month.

[Anonymous No.23670518]

Like him or hate him, this was a very cozy read indeed. Would recommend if you like sailing and mystery.

[Anonymous No.23670527]

>>23670518
>long-ass buildup for "you are useful even though you are a cripple" to make Rysn relevant
The only positive about Rysn is that I like the name.

[Anonymous No.23670534]

>>23670527
Lopen and Cord got some nice development too.

[Anonymous No.23670539]

>>23670518
i don't read books written by cultists

[Anonymous No.23670552]

>>23670534
Didn't the one advance in progression just to shut the Lopen up? Lopen wears out fast.

[Anonymous No.23670553]

>>23670518
>sailing
one piece
>mystery
conan
>sailing mystery
haruhi

[Anonymous No.23670555]

>>23670517
Foid you have to leave. You are at best 1/30 of a person.

[Anonymous No.23670559]

>>23670553
>one piece
disgusting

[Anonymous No.23670571]

>>23670534

[4mfopen[24m(3) Library Functions Manual [4mfopen[24m(3)

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Feature Test Macro Requirements for glibc (see [1mfeature_test_macros[22m(7)):

[1mfdopen[22m():
_POSIX_C_SOURCE

[Anonymous No.23670629]

>>23670518
I like both of those things, but there's no way I'm reading a sandershart book

[Anonymous No.23670678]

Why the fuck basically all superhero web-novels immediately degenerate into alien wizard politics??? Fuck, the "hero" saves exactly zero people from supervillains, he immediately fucks off from Earth to hang out among alien wizard politicians. Are there ANY superhero novels where there's actually masked superheros against supervillains, without alien invasions, demon invasions, LitRPG, alien politics, etc?

[Anonymous No.23670801]

redpill me on foundation

[Anonymous No.23670823]

>>23670801
foundational (heh) to science fiction but not that good

[Anonymous No.23670831]

Asimov read Gibbons and thought about psychology and the cyclical nature of empire and came up with some interesting space adventures with the dullest prose this side of Chalk. Fun stuff for a quick read, interesting showcase of mid-century sci-fi and how it was trying to transition from the pulp age.

[Anonymous No.23670895]

>>23669715
I got bored after the sun god got killed, it felt like the author was just dragging it out after that.

[Anonymous No.23670929]

I don't want to read bakker, I want to read the novel I imagine people talking about when they talk about bakker

[Anonymous No.23671016]

>>23670678
>basically all
Just that one

[Anonymous No.23671018]

>>23670929
Read a book about the First Crusade.

[Anonymous No.23671020]

>>23671016
There's at least three

[Anonymous No.23671066]

>>23671018
Not enough curved phalluses.

[Anonymous No.23671075]

>>23671074
>>23671074
>>23671074
New!

[Anonymous No.23671715]

>>23670555
>oid
newfag

[Anonymous No.23671910]

>>23661489
it took me ages to finish bester's novel about some rich dude who wanted something done. shit, I can't even remember the plot already, and I read sometime this year: can only remember the use of different fonts.

now the other one was great.

what about Stand on Zanzibar? Earth Abides? any well-grounded opinions on these? I own most of the sci masterworks collections (bougt the whole of it for dirt cheap from a bookstore who was a week away from closing).