/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.23629529]

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>Goodreads
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Previous Thread: >>23622746

[Anonymous No.23629546]

First for Bakker

[Anonymous No.23629551]

book 7 is going to be nuts

[Anonymous No.23629576]

>>23629546
Some of my favorite booktubers have gotten into Bakker so now I can watch their videos while playing Civilization 4 and pretend that I too have read Bakker

[Anonymous No.23629589]

Fourth for xianxia

[Anonymous No.23629592]

>>23629551
Im hyped for it. Been tempted to read the chapters on kemono, but i managed to hold off

[Anonymous No.23629608]

First for xanxia

[Anonymous No.23629621]

>>23629608
Obvious false flag

[Anonymous No.23629648]

How is the second book? I feel like the ending dropped the ball in the end. The author couldn't handle all the diverse threads and figure out a convincing motivation / behavior for the daemon. Does it improve or does it continue to unravel into even more of a mess?

[Anonymous No.23629681]

Bros, I am going to reread Reverend Insanity (for the third time). What am i in for?

[Anonymous No.23629696]

>>23629681
Faggoty weeb shit.

[Anonymous No.23629719]

>>23629696
Projecting

[Anonymous No.23629755]

Anyone read it yet?

[Anonymous No.23629761]

>>23629648
Ending of the first book that is.

[Anonymous No.23629826]

>>23629681
Read ISSTH

[Anonymous No.23629830]

Was John Brunner a cuckold? I really get that vibe occasionally reading his works. Romance and relationships only figure very rarely in his books, which isn't too unusual for science fiction, but when they do they tend to be short, disappointing, unfulfilling affairs, most commonly without either participant having much motivation to continue the relationship after the social/technological/psychological drama of the story is resolved. However cheap physical pleasure, polyamory (especially interracial), etc tends to figure heavily (especially in his magnum opus Stand on Zanzibar), but never makes the protagonists spiritually happy. In an "about the author" blurb in one novel he reveals that he lived with his wife "and a friend" in a flat in London. It really suggests to me that this man might have been a cuckold living in sexual inferiority to his own wife's possessor.

[Anonymous No.23629877]

Has the NA cover of Wind and Truth been revealed yet?

[Anonymous No.23629901]

>>23629107
>Tigana
Yeah, I have no idea why it's praised so much, Tigana is utter garbage. So many words, so little said. Constant soap opera-grade melodrama, forced worldbuilding, and general filler.

The two things I found most ridiculous were:

>send your son to invade and conquer foreign lands
>he gets killed in battle
>completely lose it and dedicate your life to muh revenge
>literally nobody, not even this guy's mortal enemies, ever see the flaw in this reasoning
Like dude, YOU SENT YOUR SON TO WAR. People die in war. This is not fucking rocket surgery.

and everybody's going on and on about >muh country, >muh name, and >muh history, but nobody seems to care about actual people living there. Starvation, poverty, oppression, ridiculous brutality, that's all just facts of life, nothing to get excited about. But everyone's ready to die for fucking Tigana at the drop of a hat.

[Anonymous No.23629993]

>>23629755
I would've read it on the day it came out, I could've read it months before that, but my reading has decreased. Hopefully I'll get around to it reading then writing about it within a couple weeks.

[Anonymous No.23630030]

>>23628430 (Me)
Read the memery sad Thorn novella.
Is the series good? I was underwhelmed.
Like 50 pages of meandering setup for the climax of
>we die I dunno
Slightly less pointless than Hedge Knight.

[Anonymous No.23630208]

new buehlman out yesterday hotties did you pick yours up?
i was initially disappointed it's a prequel but pretty quickly got invested
hoping it goes more into goblin society than the first book bc they're pretty compelling villains
>consider humans as livestock, keeps breeding pens & torture prisons
>kill every horse in the world
>have asymmetrical bodies, hate & destroy symmetrical buildings & infrastructure
>bodies don't decompose

[Anonymous No.23630216]

>>23629529
Cool wizard tower

[Anonymous No.23630293]

>>23630208
>female protagonist
no

[Anonymous No.23630320]

>>23630293
based

[Anonymous No.23630332]

>>23629529
recommend me some excellent fantasy novels which are grounded and play in not!medieval europe plus magic and fantasy creatures. basically tolkien-like fantasy.

[Anonymous No.23630363]

>>23630332
realm of the elderlings

[Anonymous No.23630367]

>>23630332
>not!medieval europe
>basically tolkien-like fantasy.
Did you actually read anything from Tolkien? His fantasy is not like that at all.

Look at The Witcher or ASOIAF.

[Anonymous No.23630435]

>>23630363
thanks bro

>>23630367
okay you're a fucking retard. stop talking to me or my wife's son at once

[Anonymous No.23630508]

>>23629592
>https://kemono.su/patreon/user/5429305
You WILL read all of the new chapters. You WILL come back here and discuss the plot with me. You WILL like it.

[Anonymous No.23630540]

It's Friday, what are you gaming and reading? For me, It's Tales of Maj'Eyal and Hawkwoods Voyage

[Anonymous No.23630568]

>>23630540
Cogmind, fellow Rogueliker, and A Canticle for Leibowitz

[Anonymous No.23630580]

Just came to jav of a older woman molesting a bbw and a school girl. Now it's time to enter the nascent soul arc in a xianxia novel.
But first, let me post this

[Anonymous No.23630597]

>>23630208
i liked it more than blacktongue thief, the war focus was way more interesting

[Anonymous No.23630773]

>>23630293
this

[Anonymous No.23630800]

>>23630540
Playing wrath of the righteus, though im pretty close to abonding my current run and start a new one with a different class. Not reading anything currently, but might give waylander a try soon

[Anonymous No.23630834]

>>23629546
THE COFFERS

[Anonymous No.23631010]

Peek pirate fiction? Space or regular.

[Anonymous No.23631143]

>>23631010
I'm quite liking William Hope Hodgson's pirate stories, mixed in amongst everything else. They're not really adventures though. More just single encounters, and from the perspective of the people being pirated. They're pretty horrifying for the most part. Read enough, and you might even stumble upon the story of a nigger haunting the topsails at night.

[Anonymous No.23631374]

Could a heroic fantasy book set in the 21st century work, or would it be too silly?

[Anonymous No.23631376]

>>23629592
Highly advise never reading anything at patreon pace if you can restrain yourself
I did it with a bunch of stories I like and now I have to read them in weird fits and starts where I let chapters build up for like a month or two and then read them all.
Much better to just read a book when its done

[Anonymous No.23631386]

>>23631010
Wyvern is the best pirate book by a mile imo
It's dutch east indies though so it's not quite what people expect.

[Anonymous No.23631475]

>>23631386
Isn't that one of the best places to be a pirate, even though the Carribean and Mediterranean are more iconic?

[Anonymous No.23631528]

>>23630293
this

[Anonymous No.23631638]

>>23630540
It's no longer Friday here but I plan to wrap up the last 10 chapters of Fires of Heaven today.
Though it does look like I'll be starting off with a Nynaeve chapter, so this might be easier said than done.

[Anonymous No.23631652]

>Book has multiple POV characters
>People skip POV sections of characters they don't like

I hear about people doing this constantly and it seems crazy to me. Surely you're missing out on huge chunks of plot doing that.

[Anonymous No.23631660]

>>23630540
Playing MMOs as per usual, frequently the dead kind
Today, I read the most recent two chapters of Dungeon Crawler Carl, as well as the little bit (chapter or two) to finish part one of Godclads book two.

[Anonymous No.23631671]

>>23631652
If I don't like someone's POV then I just put the audiobook at x2 speed until it's over or simply read the first sentence in a paragraph and move on.
I do this with WoT every time there's a female POV and it works like a charm.

[Anonymous No.23631811]

>>23631671
World of Thunderthighs?

[Anonymous No.23631826]

>>23631811
Worms of Tunguska, obviously.

[Anonymous No.23631860]

>>23631652
I did that with WOT didn't feel like I missed much.
So many characters, things got covered multiple ways.

[Anonymous No.23631935]

>>23631374
Is Reign of Fire cool?
Yes.
I like those kinds of books a lot, or such and such travels back in time with this and that.
You get to pick your own dwindling supplies and determine what's so important.
Well I guess I'm jumping the gun and assuming things are scarce.

It can still be cool. I don't know who you would have the hero slay. If it's corporate dudes then just know you're going to be wanking off like 1,000 guys who want to see the tiny hat tribe hang.

[Anonymous No.23631941]

>>23631475
Spices and exotic goods = money

[Anonymous No.23631973]

>>23629551
>Dungeon Cuck Carl
Next /sffg/ will try to convince me that The Wandering Estrogen polluted Inn and He Who Shites With Monsters are good.

[Anonymous No.23631987]

>>23631973
thanks for your eternal bump

[Anonymous No.23631990]

>>23631973
All reddit tier litrpg slop, you want to filter for novels with sexual content

[Anonymous No.23631991]

>>23631990
DCC has plenty of sexual content. One of its most significant characters has a VERY BLATANT foot fetish.

[Anonymous No.23631995]

>>23629529
Logically the magic system of cultivation is more tethered in reality then some chosen farmboy attaining an overpowered talking sword or riding a massive flight capable lizard into battle and it not eating him before also acquiring that sweet sweet princess pussy. But for all the credibility in the world, without fail each and every work of cultivation fantasy fucks itself with en-tropic young master face slapping, autistic repition of power levels, meditative hand waving on character inconcictencies and a host of mindless jade beauties fawning over miniaturized Asian cock. And that is all before you reach the not so small matter cringe worthy dialogue.

[Anonymous No.23631997]

>>23631991
The foot fetish is reddit teir, le quirky fetish. How do you not know this? No. You do. You are just posting in bad faith.

[Anonymous No.23632002]

>>23631991
>Dinneman is a foot fag as well as a cat cuck.
Checks out.

[Anonymous No.23632061]

>>23631935
>I don't know who you would have the hero slay
Scientologists, the Illuminati, CIA assassins, Skinwalkers.

[Anonymous No.23632102]

>>23630208
>>23630293
>female protagonist
This is fine
>female protagonist with no boobs
This is unacceptable.
What's even the point?

[Anonymous No.23632185]

>>23630208
Looking at the cover of that makes me think.
I don't think I've read a book that really goes into battle details.
A LOT of the scifi I read was the interesting scifi stuff and then the battle is like, "The ship is in half and on fire after the explosion and..."

So I've yet to read interesting battles in books. Very, very peculiar.

[Anonymous No.23632198]

>>23632061
>CIA assassins
You made me think about Ninja Gaiden.
I'd say heroic fantasy can absolutely happen then. Those whole NES games are about the CIA getting their hands on demon shit that they shouldn't and the clash of swords and guns worked pretty well to me. Ryu is the son of a ninja and uses ninja arts and magic and has a magical sword, his GF and friends have guns and shoot demons.
It always felt like there was tension. Guns will cut right through Ryu, but he's a fast as hell ninja. If you lose your grasp on him, he might kill you from the shadows.

You don't have to have magic though. Ryu was just a human after all. There's even a compelling human that makes it into Hell with Ryu who's just some ex-army guy.

[Anonymous No.23632238]

>>23632185
Karl Edward Wagner liked to sperg over battle details. I think every one of his books has at least one lavishly detailed battle scene. Wayne Barlowe is pretty detailed with the battles in God's Demon.

[Anonymous No.23632262]

>>23631386
There's so much stuff called Wyvern. Is it the book by A.A Attanasio?

[Anonymous No.23632396]

>>23629681
Fang Yuan wins

[Anonymous No.23632427]

>>23631811
>WoT
>irritating women
>incredible bloat
It's obviously wheel of time.

[Anonymous No.23632651]

Anyone here read Chronicles of Prydain? Just wondering what they're like.

[Anonymous No.23632676]

>>23629901
>and (spoiler)
From the way you put it it does seem to me like a commentary about romanticizing nobility, monarchy and medieval times in general versus how the times actually were for the common people. Of course I'm not saying this for sure was actually the intent of the author or that it's a good commentary since I haven't read the book.

[Anonymous No.23632866]

>>23632262
yeah

[Anonymous No.23632882]

Here is a cute butt, now tell me which xianxia to read next I've read:
against the gods
arrogant young master
coiling dragon
cultivation chat group
elder cultivator
intro to os abstractions using plan 9
immortal only accepts female disciples
i shall seal the heaves
martial god asura
marital world
molting the mortal coil
path of the ascendant
renegade immortal (twice)
scp gacha system in a cultivation world
sovereign of the three realms
stellar transformation
stygian mage
tales of demons and gods
technocultivator
the dao of Magic
the desolate era (twice)
the new journey of an old soul
the void king.
the way of the dao
true martial world
unfathomable senior
upgrade specialist in another world
warlock of the magus world

[Anonymous No.23632884]

>>23632882
seek help, unironically

[Anonymous No.23632885]

>>23632882
>marital world
martial world*
lol

[Anonymous No.23632888]

>>23632884
>seek help
I'd rather seek dao

[Anonymous No.23632922]

>>23631991
>tfw you will never get your feet licked by ai
why even live...

[Anonymous No.23632961]

>>23631860
>writing is so redundant that you can skip full chapters and be fine
I think that's a sign of bad writing

[Anonymous No.23632970]

>>23632961
You skip any book and be fine, so is all writing bad?

[Anonymous No.23632994]

>>23632882
I am not seeing RI on that list

[Anonymous No.23632999]

>>23632888
I'd rather seek trips -------------------/

[Anonymous No.23633020]

>>23632994
Renegade immortal is on the list. I'm talking about real xianxia not pokemon.
Seriously even the fucking renegade immortal wiki call them pokemon. It's also fairly old at this point, but not old enough to be genre defining like CD and preCD novels

[Anonymous No.23633033]

>>23629576
links? I wanna watch normies misunderstand the genius of Bakker

[Anonymous No.23633062]

>>23632970
nta but reading books hasnt kept you from becoming a sophist

[Anonymous No.23633070]

>xianxia spam
>Shit-rpg spam
>Favorite booktubers
>Bakkerfagging
My low expectations remain unmet.

[Anonymous No.23633072]

Books for this feel. Say bakker and I'll kill myself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wc-AQJ2MYo

[Anonymous No.23633137]

>>23633033

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMiws6PVhEo

[Anonymous No.23633173]

>>23633072
bakker

[Anonymous No.23633178]

>>23633072
Also make it a xianxia. My vote is CD if you haven't already read it. And if you haven't ... what the hell is wrong with you.

[Anonymous No.23633215]

>>23633070
What's the deal with this xianxia shit, you're telling me people unironically read Japanese light novels but Chinese?

[Anonymous No.23633278]

>>23633215
xianxia is nothing like japanese light novels. If I had to place it it would be somewhere between Brandon Sanderson (sans "world building"), terry goodkind, david edding, R.A. salvatore

[Anonymous No.23633279]

>>23631941
I was thinking more like 'lots of trade ships coming through and the local navy is filled with guys who are a hell of a long way from home"

[Anonymous No.23633281]

>>23633278
I want to gouge your intestines as you whimper beneath my erection.

[Anonymous No.23633286]

>>23633281
hot

[Anonymous No.23633287]

>>23633281
Chill the fuck out Bakker

[Anonymous No.23633298]

>>23633070
All me

[Anonymous No.23633299]

>>23633281

[Anonymous No.23633345]

>>23633281
Based Bakkerchad with a mighty curved phallus and honeyed anus

[Anonymous No.23633359]

>>23633345
>honeyed anus
WHat is the context behind this? What does honeyed even mean? Lube?

[Anonymous No.23633559]

>>23632102
Can't you just visualize the female mc with big boobs in your mind's eye?

[Anonymous No.23633566]

Any fantasy books that are centered around wizardry that don't have gay anime Sanderson esque magic "systems"?

[Anonymous No.23633568]

Why is it that whenever the topic of women in any sort of context appears in this general -SOMEBODY- (you know who) starts ranting and raving about how females are worthless and disgusting and how much better sweaty manly gay buttsex between hypermisogynistic Nietzschean ubermenschen is?

[Anonymous No.23633580]

>>23633070
My favorite is the anti-DCC fag who keeps samefagging.

[Anonymous No.23633587]

Why the vitriol for three body problem?

[Anonymous No.23633599]

>>23633566
Fuck tons
Open your eyes

[Anonymous No.23633672]

>>23633281
For once in my life I agree with bakkerfag

[Anonymous No.23633685]

>>23633566
Yes, the 60s, 70s 80s 90s and early 00s already happened, now we live in the future and you will enjoy your stat menu and skill lists.

[Anonymous No.23633694]

>>23633587
Idiots not understanding the deeper meaning.

[Anonymous No.23633696]

To the people discussing LitRPG the past few threads: try Dungeon Lord if you haven’t. Its one of the better series in the genre imo and the whole selling point is that is has both a gothic and a Lovecraftian horror vibe. It went on hiatus there for a while but author is supposedly getting close to finishing book 5 now which is happy news.

Dante’s Immortality was another hidden gem imo but the author dropped it after releasing B2 chapters and not liking the direction he went with it, planned a rewrite before book release but then just went MIA.

The Gam3 by Cosimo Yap was a pretty cool rare and viable sci-fantasy LitRPG but it went to shit I think around B3

I should mention here my current favorites Defiance of the Fall and Everybody Loves Large Chests, followed by Dungeon Crawler Carl. I first got into the genre in the earlier period with some of the Russian slop (outdated now) and then read Chaos Seeds which is somewhat infamous due to the author being a twat. Also outdated but at the time I enjoyed the open ended world, action and power fantasy. These things are almost always better imo with a large open world and deadly stakes. The Arcane Emperor was another early one I really enjoyed as well, though I doubt it would hold up… most of what I’m enjoying these days are various Prog fantasies desu.

[Anonymous No.23633702]

>>23633696
HAS THE AUTHOR READ LOVECRAFT OR NOT?

[Anonymous No.23633718]

>>23633696
Also Primal Hunter and Iron Prince are mid af forgot to mention that.

[Anonymous No.23633743]

>>23633580
He hasnt mentioned how carl is a cuck in 3 whole threads, i think he gave up

[Anonymous No.23633748]

>>23633743
see
>>23631973 and maybe >>23632002

[Anonymous No.23633751]

>>23633748
Guess im blind

[Anonymous No.23633756]

>>23633718
reminder that one of Iron Prince's authors is a mod for their progression fantasy board and will ALL CAPS 'yell' at you like a newfag for not worshipping LGTV faggotry.
and the book is utter trash written by two bitches who watched maybe five shounen ever.

[Anonymous No.23633778]

>>23631652
I do this but only because once I start seeing multiple POVs i'm already over the book and just skimming for points of interest.
I wasted way too many hours reading utter dogshit like Wheel of Time where 2 out of 10 perspectives were tolerable.

[Anonymous No.23633791]

If your fantasy novel doesn't involve underclasses of quadrillions of lesser people, that are basically bacteria in the mc's eyes then it isn't based.

[Anonymous No.23633801]

I want to rewrite the first three books of Red Rising from Mustangs PoV.

I also wonder how hard it is for mustang to cum when she's so in her own head? Or does she literally just talk herself through cumming using olfactory senses to trigger memories and sensations basically mind fucking herself whenever she's fucking?

Mustang is so fucking hot bros it's unreal.

[Anonymous No.23633805]

>>23633791
I like the conceit of a cultivator who can kill millions with the wave of his hand teaming up with other cultivators who could do the same, they all want to kill eachother, to go through a jungle inside some ancient cultivator who could and did kill quadrillions with a wave of his hand just to find some tiny sub relic of a sub relic from one of his henchmen's grandkids barn animal, and then the mc falls into a crevice where he gets the main guys cultivation method and cheat item and uses his old cheat item to improve the cultivation method and fuse it with his current cultivation method.

[Anonymous No.23633837]

>>23632882
World of Cultivation.
A Record of A Mortal's Journey to Immortality.

[Anonymous No.23633860]

>>23633837
>World of Cultivation.
I think I read world of cultivation. Is it the one with farming, crystals, they (group of 3 or 4 guys) make their own sect and write their names on a stone or something
I'll check it out.
>A record of a mortal's journey to immortality
Is it focused on body cultivation? Looks cool
I'll check it out

[Anonymous No.23633869]

>>23633860
Oh shit, he loses his cultivation, zamn. How can you recover from that?

Not body cultivation focused

[Anonymous No.23633896]

somehow My Longevity Simulation manages to genuinely give me chills despite being a chink cultivation setting on top of being rendered through MTL or edited MTL.

[Anonymous No.23633902]

>>23633020
He means Reverend Insanity

[Anonymous No.23633924]

>>23633896
That's how I feel about a lot of MTL.
Helps that non-poetic and non-slangy simplified chinese really is simple that MTLs don't feel as busted as they do from many languages.

[Anonymous No.23633929]

>>23633902
The second renegade immortal is meant to be Reverend insanity.

[Anonymous No.23633931]

>>23633924
i guess it helps since in my case, as a half-chink, i am a half-step to being literate for a 3rd grader in China

[Anonymous No.23633951]

I don't know if sss-class suicide hunter is mtl, but it's definitely not a professional translation but was the only novel to ever make me cry. Near the end of the The Tale of Sormwyn Academy book

[Anonymous No.23633972]

>>23633951
A cool thing is that when you start the premise is completely retard and ridiculous with like a million holes, but it turns out the author actually answers all your questions. It still doesn't make any sense, and has to invoke uncountable infinities (which logically don't exist, but fine this is fiction), but all the obvious holes are filled.

[Anonymous No.23634010]

>>23633951
i’m pretty sure all gooklations done by major gooksites are translated through MTL then edited by English-speaking gooks.

if the translators happen to be half or full Gooks, 2nd generations who are yet very familiar with their mother culture and language, then it is all the more a tragedy for their work to make me think so.

these translators sincerely need to read the Classics, or even start with the Greeks

[Anonymous No.23634023]

>>23633951
it's aight. I think the focus on the character narratives were decent and touching.

[Anonymous No.23634056]

>>23633951
It's all completely cheapened by his power (which granted it takes a bit of effort to make any story that won't be ruined by it) but then his wife makes him stop using it, cause the author is lazy, so lmao.
And then literally every story that could be told in this universe is cheapened by the tower master's powers. It's 100x worse than everything was a dream so no consequences it's literally your suffering doesn't matter because the tower master records and replays your life but taking over your body so they experience all your suffering, and you have infinite multiverses were the tower master sucks your dick. So the main story is rendered moot cause there are a 10^400 multiverses with the mc and every other character achieving self actualization just like this one with the. I guess the only difference is that the mc wants all characters to achieve self actualization in the same universe or something? It's all completely vapid and uninteresting wordsalad drivel.

[Anonymous No.23634064]

>>23634056
hmm. if this novel is making an obvious retard like yourself seethe this hard methinks it might be worth a ... nah fuck gooks.

[Anonymous No.23634074]

where the fuck are all these niggers coming out of the bushes for this barely discussed webtoon(?)
>>>/lit/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=%22suicide+hunter%22

[None !SFFG.n1h7M No.23634077]

>>23629529
Courtship Rite - Donald Kingsbury (1982)

Courtship Rite is very much inspired by Dune. Kingsbury does especially well with that not being an issue by having so much else that's distinct to distract from it. If you're looking for a society with an entirely different system of morality and ethics, then you've found it. Its politics are decidedly libertarian, anarchic, and pragmatic. What's normal for them is transgressive to the norms and mores of almost any reader. Everything almost anyone does in this world is because of a singular concept: Kalothi. In a word it roughly means "survivability". Why polyamory? Because a small group has a better chance to survive. Why cannibalism? Because the survival of the individual is less important than the survival of all others. There's much else that's transgressive that's presented without defense. The transgression isn't really the focus, because it's normal. There's a lot of sex, which is often short and not explicit. Although cannibalism permeates everything and is constantly mentioned, there's surprisingly little of it on page. Mostly it's in the opening and one intentionally shocking scene.

Geta is a fascinating world, though not that much is shown of it. Their technology is extraordinarily uneven, which is understandable considering almost all of it comes from oral tradition and ancient remnants. Most resources seem scarce. There aren't any animals aside from what they call insects, which aren't viable, so their only food sources are plants and each other. If you want meat, leather, bone, or much else organic, it has to be human. A character claims there are around 200 million people, but it feels like there's maybe a million. Almost all of them see cannibalism as only being permissible during a funeral or starvation, except the two societies the book focuses on, which practice it at all times.

The characters are mostly there to have the story told through them and since this is written in third person omniscient it can jump from one character to another in consecutive paragraphs, sometimes back and forth. That may make it considerably more difficult for those whom characters are what matter most. I was indifferent to all of the characters, though there's a considerable amount to dislike about any one of them, so you may find yourself bothered by one or more of them.

The first half of the book is what the title says, courtship, which in this case means repeatedly trying to kill the wife candidate so that she can prove her Kalothi. That isn't the usual process, though I wouldn't call any of the courtship practices in this romantic, let alone kind. The latter half is intergroup conflict resolution and the troubles of knowledge. That's one one way to describe it anyway. This is something to read for its society and not much else other than that, but it's such a different experience that nothing else is needed.

Rating: 4/5

[Anonymous No.23634116]

>>23634077
your """reviews""" are SHIT. fuck off

[Anonymous No.23634122]

>>23634074
Again, all me.

[Anonymous No.23634126]

>>23634077
any cuncun? if you know what I mean

[Anonymous No.23634142]

>>23634116
nigger
>>23634122
That was the implication, yes.

[Anonymous No.23634161]

>>23634074
>>23634142
Because it's a diamond in the rough? One of the only fantasy novels worth reading written in the last 20 years? All the non shitposters, who actually read, in this thread have already read it. YOU are the one missing out. But you don't care, cause you don't read. Now go back to r/bookscirclejerk and goon to pics of lenin or whatever the fuck it is you do all day.

>I fell extremely deeply into the gook web novel rabbit hole over the last six months, and I have no one to talk to about it but you guys, so enjoy.
>Solo Leveling: ... 5/10
>The Novel's Extra: ... 5.5/10
>Invisible Dragon: ... -1/10.
>The World After the Fall: ... 6.5/10
>Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint: ... 6/10
>Second Coming of Gluttony: ... 7/10
>A Returner's Magic should be Special: ... 6/10
>SSS-Class Suicide Hunter: By far my favorite, from what's been translated. The premise gives the author a lot of freedom to tell mostly unconnected stories about mostly different casts of characters, and he's great at telling stories that make me love and empathize with his characters. As far as I'm concerned it's historically the best recipe for serial fiction, and what made Dickens such a beloved writer. 10/10
>Second Life Ranker: ... 2/10

[Anonymous No.23634230]

>>23634161
>four samefags within half an hour
>reddit buzzwords out of nowhere
>a power rankings list nobody asked for
kill yourself, newfag. down the road, not across the street

[Anonymous No.23634232]

>>23634126
Yes, there's talk of child brides and buying children at auction. The age of one of the characters in the present is unclear, but there are discussions of how they had sex with her when she was prepubescent. Most of it is in passing, so I don't know that it'd be enough to interest you.

[Anonymous No.23634243]

>>23634232
I'll check it out. Just knowing that somewhere in the world a loli is getting railed somewhere while the story is playing out is enough to get me off.

[Anonymous No.23634293]

Why are fantasy readers such manchildren

[Anonymous No.23634304]

I do not like the Chinese Communist Party.

[Anonymous No.23634328]

>>23634293
Why are you such a humongous faggot that you go into threads to write inane drivel to yourself.

[Anonymous No.23634342]

I’m reading the Elric Saga, vol.1. I have to say Moorcock is just not a good writer. In fact he is terrible. He makes GRRM look like Shakespeare.

[Anonymous No.23634347]

>>23634293
It's been almost completely coopeted by lolbertarians on one side and parasitic sjws on the other

[Anonymous No.23634359]

>>23634342
Yeah, it only gets a bit better in the second half of the volume, oddly enough, but overall it's just not good and put me off anything else he's written.

[Anonymous No.23634364]

>>23632882
Read Eternal Sacred King

[Anonymous No.23634381]

>>23634364
>Eternal Sacred King
It's not completely translated, so I'll put it on the back log. Thanks it looks interesting.

[Anonymous No.23634468]

Is this a single schizo shitting up these threads or do anons seriously read this weeb trash?

[Anonymous No.23634480]

>>23634468
pretty much
removing the IP count was a terrible mistake

[Anonymous No.23634486]

>>23634480
I still cant believe they did that, at least give us post ids. I swear every new change they make somehow makes the site worse

[Anonymous No.23634529]

>>23634468
>schizo
>weeb
What does you coming to 4chan after 2016 have to do with sci-fi and fantasy books?

[Anonymous No.23634615]

>>23634480
>>23634486
I hate newfags so much

[Anonymous No.23634638]

>>23634615
That's not good, you should love yourself.

[Anonymous No.23634642]

>>23634529
>>23634615
fuck off wherever you came from, no one gives a shit about your chinese drivel

[Anonymous No.23634644]

>>23634642
>schizo
>weeb
What does you coming to 4chan after 2016 have to do with sci-fi and fantasy books?

[Anonymous No.23634651]

>>23634638
>>23634642
kill yourself bakkerfag.

[Anonymous No.23634652]

what does machine translated chinese slop have to do with fantasy

[Anonymous No.23634653]

>>23634642
And you think people really care about some chud novel stacked in my middle school library by the literal boomer female librarian about slowly walking from point a to point b?

[Anonymous No.23634658]

>>23634653
Yes, now fuck off from these threads

[Anonymous No.23634659]

>>23634638
>>23634642
>>23634652
>>23634653
>>23634658
>>>/v/

[Anonymous No.23634663]

>>23634659
You are so mindbroken that you think any novel released after 2007 (and not on new york times best seller list) is somehow a video game.

[Anonymous No.23634664]

>>23634529
>>23634615
>>23634644
>>23634651
>>23634653
>>23634659
>>>/discord/

[Anonymous No.23634668]

>>23634663
Go be a newfag nigger on whichever board you first browser (>>>/v/ or >>>/pol/).

[Anonymous No.23634675]

/sffg/ is only for the glorious creations of the ruling party of China and its people. We don't want you here westerners, take your boring slop about depression and gender somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.23634679]

>>23634664
Discord did not exist when /lit/ was created. By all means, go back to whichever social-aggregate you heard about 4chan from.

[Anonymous No.23634681]

>>23634668
Your newfaggory is showing. /b/ has always been the most popular board. Newfags are 1/100000 of an anon

[Anonymous No.23634684]

>>23634681
>always
Embarrassing. Lurk moar.
https://4stats.io/

[Anonymous No.23634688]

>>23634681
>uhhhhhh reddit says /b/ was popular back in 2012 so it must always be the biggest board
LOL

[Anonymous No.23634694]

>>23634681
hasn't been true for years dumbass

[Anonymous No.23634695]

>>23634688
>>23634684
Lurk for 10,000 years. I've never seen such blatant newfaggory.

[Anonymous No.23634908]

Fuck man I told y'all to post the meme last thread an I forgot I had it saved.

[Anonymous No.23634957]

Can you faggots just talk about fantasy books? Is the wheel of time good?

[Anonymous No.23634973]

>>23634957
NO, but ISSTH is. read that.

[Anonymous No.23634977]

>>23634957
Yes, though the first several books. After that the pace is going to gradually slow to a crawl until you're reading entire books with almost nothing happening. Apparently it picks up again at the end once Sanderson took over but I didn't get that far (I dropped it in 2005).

[Anonymous No.23634980]

>>23634957
The good side:
>rand, mat, perrin, most of the male cast really
>you get to see the developing schizophrenia of the main character
>channeling is pretty cool
>decent world building even if most of the map is barren for no particular good reason
The bad side:
>incredible bloat
>pretty much every female character with small exceptions
>le dream world and 6 quadrillion prophecies
>the forsaken are fucking stupid
>Egwene and Nynaeve (separate from the previous point because it's really that bad)

[Anonymous No.23634985]

>>23634980
>Nynaeve
Past book 4 i found her really entertaining, she basically becomes the clown of the group

[Anonymous No.23635005]

>>23634977
>>23634980
I will give it a go

[Anonymous No.23635027]

>>23634985
She's still fucking annoying, just more stupid for it. The fabric of the whole world could unravel itself for her one particular action in book 5 and it's still le men bad with her.
When I see her chapter I have to remind myself that there's a Rand/Mat chapter right behind the corner to keep going.

[Anonymous No.23635048]

I'm going to finish "The Algebraist" with some scotch tonight. Somewhat disappointing, considering I really enjoyed the culture series. Its a little over the top and self-indulgent for my taste. Looking forward to Glenn Cook's "Soldier's Live" to get my boomer fantasy shot.

[Anonymous No.23635050]

>>23634957
>Is the wheel of time good?
It's like 2-3 books spread across 11 books of filler with terrible resolutions to every arc.

[Anonymous No.23635137]

>>23635050
not to mention that the first 3 books are literally the same shit written 3 times in a row

[Anonymous No.23635151]

>>23634908
Scott does know that children were expected to read, understand, and enjoy Lord of the Rings, right?
That leaves his only argument, "I'm more hardcore." which is extremely gay.

[Anonymous No.23635154]

>>23634957
I only read the first book and found it to be an enjoyable fantasy adventure. However, I can't recall anything in it that was so compelling that I'd be interested in reading another book about it let alone 13.

[Anonymous No.23635166]

should I get an ereader?

[Anonymous No.23635172]

>>23635154
It does get quite a lot better past book 3, but it's understandable.
Book 1 is just a LotR rip-off.

[Anonymous No.23635174]

>>23635151
Children should not be reading about gay male rape.

[Anonymous No.23635181]

>>23635166
yes

[Anonymous No.23635185]

>>23635166
if you like reading then yes.

[Anonymous No.23635209]

>>23635166
If you want an excellent device to complement piracy, then yes.

[Anonymous No.23635226]

>>23635174
They should read about it the most.
That's the only way gays are made and they should be aware and armed to protect themselves from such threats.

[Anonymous No.23635246]

>>23632651
I didn't read the whole series, but my 3rd grade self found them life-changing. Very traditional tale-like literature for young people.

[Anonymous No.23635389]

>>23634957
Can you use an archive or ask an original question, newfag trash?

[Anonymous No.23635434]

Books with age gap? Old guy marrying a young girl in fantasy earth is my copium

[Anonymous No.23635482]

>>23635434
glowing post

[Anonymous No.23635551]

>>23635482
newfag post

[Anonymous No.23635571]

>>23629830
Short answer: no. Brunner and his wife had an 'open relationship,' which meant that either could pair off with someone else. He cheated on her at least as much as she did on him.

[Anonymous No.23635572]

>>23635389
>>23635551
You really want to start arguing about newfags again schizo?

[Anonymous No.23635588]

>>23632882
Where are the Mao Ni books?
Outside of Time
Sword Dynasty
Spirit Vessel
Nameless Sovereign, ah I just checked and it got stubbed

[Anonymous No.23635593]

>newfag thinks random insults cause physical harm in real life if spammed enough times
LMAO

[Anonymous No.23635633]

>>23635588
>Outside of Time
I missed some er gen on my list which I have read, but I'm saving this one til it's done.
The other stuff is kinda short I usually look for >1000 chapters

I like the look of the immortal devil over sword dynasty, could you tag it?

Spirit vessel says it's not completely translated either

I read the first few hundred chapters of nameless sovereign, I caught up at 243. I'm waiting for it to complete. I scraped up to what I read, maybe I should put everything I've read in a list and scrape the last 5 chapters every day though.

[Anonymous No.23635692]

>>23635633
Looking at it, I have no idea what's going on with Spirit Vessel. Novelupdates says it's complete with 1150 chapters but it's still getting updated on wuxiaworld and currently at 1222 chapters

I guess Sword Dynasty wasn't fully translated either, missing a few chapters
https://dreamsofjianghu.ca/sword-dynasty/

>I usually look for >1000 chapters
Tales of Herding Gods is good. You could just read Emperor's Domination, kek. It has over 6k chapters translated

[Anonymous No.23635700]

>>23635692
>Emperor's Domination
I dropped that one, but I guess I'll give it another shot. He was just too op out the gate and started doing random reincarnator stuff, or I guess just super long life.

[Anonymous No.23635774]

Wake me when bakker writes a xianxia novel
My wake word is 4e203fcebc38b899f89265cd874e9260a8fdced7

[Anonymous No.23635982]

>>23635774
that would be ludographic

[Anonymous No.23636194]

Read Zhu Xian it's not filled with thousands of chapters of filler

[Anonymous No.23636249]

I should've posted this here first

Any books like the Blades in the Dark TTRPG?

[Anonymous No.23636255]

Best Lovecraft is?
>read unknown kadath, intriguing world building and concept but random plot made it a slog
>read innsbrook, mid, forgotten it already
What's the book where shit really goes down? I'm tired of whiffs.

[Anonymous No.23636288]

>>23636249
mistborn

[Anonymous No.23636290]

>>23636249

[Anonymous No.23636341]

I have a very specific ache that comes from reading Brunner the Bounty Hunter and John Wagner/Cam Kennedy's Boba Fett comic book. I need ruthless motherfuckers that are efficient and don't waste time making friends or romance. Does anybody got something similar to recommend?

[Anonymous No.23636375]

How many times someone gonna ask "recommendation for concept X" and the correct answer is LOTM

[Anonymous No.23636459]

AITA for refusing to pay the dragon tax imposed by our local Feudal Oversight Association?
Greetings, fellow peasants of the realm. I (32M) live in a modest thatched cottage in the village of Muddybottom with my wife (29F) and our three children. Recently, we've been having issues with our local Feudal Oversight Association (FOA), and I'm at my wit's end.
It all started when Lord Fancypants III took over as head of the FOA last harvest season. Since then, he's imposed increasingly ridiculous rules on our village:

All cottages must be painted with "dragon-repelling yellow ochre" (which he conveniently sells at an exorbitant price).
Livestock must wear "noble-approved" bells at all times to "maintain the auditory ambiance of the village."
A strict curfew on torch-lighting, because "excessive night illumination offends the local vampire population."

We're already required to pay association fees for the village mill, even though my family mills our grain at home using a hand-quern. Lord Fancypants insists it's for the "greater good" and to maintain the "feudal aesthetic," whatever that means.
But the final straw came last week when he announced a new "dragon tax." Apparently, a dragon has taken up residence in the nearby mountains, and Lord Fancypants insists we need to pay for a "state-of-the-art" dragon defense system.
The proposed system? A catapult that launches wheels of aged cheese at the dragon. I kid you not, he owns a warehouse of 20-year-old cheese he can't sell.
When I pointed out that we've never had a dragon attack in the history of our village, and that dragons are known to be lactose intolerant anyway, Lord Fancypants threatened to have me put in the stocks for "endangering village safety" and "spreading anti-cheese propaganda."
I've refused to pay the dragon tax, and now half the village is calling me a selfish jerk who's going to get everyone killed by a cheese-loving dragon. The other half is quietly supporting me but too afraid to speak up.
So, tell me fellow peasants of Plebbit, AITA for standing up to this madness, or should I just shut up and pay the dragon tax like everyone else?

[Anonymous No.23636463]

recommend me some slipstream

[Anonymous No.23636480]

>>23636249
There are Dishonored novels
https://www.goodreads.com/series/182567-dishonored

And Andrew Shields novels
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/52738482-mirror-and-bone

Also "The Lies of Locke Lamora"

[Anonymous No.23636505]

>>23636249
You may check these if you want something about city gangs
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8801543-among-thieves

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/37884491-priest-of-bones

[Anonymous No.23636517]

reading Lord of Light and I'm wondering when does someone shit on the street.

[Anonymous No.23636558]

>>23636341
Samus does all that shit she does in each of her games in like 45 minutes.
Not a book but uhh, here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcppnDs2Rz8

[Anonymous No.23636560]

>>23636341
Demon Princes, by Jack Vance. It's a vigilante revenge book set in outer space.

[Anonymous No.23636562]

>>23635434
Time Enough for Love, by Heinlein. You should probably read Methuselah's Children first though.

[Anonymous No.23636563]

Any good xianxia with a dragon race or clan? Preferably reincarnator mc

[Anonymous No.23636736]

>>23636560
Demon Princes has romance you liar
Death's Head by David Gunn, the protagonist has sex but not feelings

[Anonymous No.23636750]

>>23636255
Lovecraft isn't really the type where shit goes down, but some of my favourites are The Dreams in the Witch House, The Colour Out of Space, The Nameless City, Pickman's Model. Kadath has a neat concept but I found its stories boring.

[Anonymous No.23636760]

>>23636255
Case of Charles Dexter Ward. it was made into a few movies for what that's worth (most famous I think is The Resurrected)

[Anonymous No.23636827]

How do reincarnator novels get around the butterfly effect? Take a reincarnator xianxia, besides knowing all the technquis and treasures and sheeit from your previous life, the second you try to make a plan using your knowledge of the future it will fail.
How powerful is the butterfly effect anyways? If I have perfect knowledge could I literally just move my fingers in the correct sequence at the right time and change the outcome of an election? Any xianxia like that?

[Anonymous No.23636875]

>>23636255
For me it's The Shadow over Innsmouth. Fuck, I'm in love with the small town secrets trope after it.

[Anonymous No.23636926]

[Anonymous No.23636986]

>>23636926
>it's a masterpiece
Why did /lit/ lie about this? Did they just not read it or are they gatekeeping?

[Anonymous No.23636991]

>>23629529
>https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb
I clicked this and looked at it and wow what a gay waste of time. Some useless losers sat and compiled a bunch of shit lists and graphics.

[Anonymous No.23637021]

This doesn't warrant a whole thread so i'll ask here.
Do you guys have any horror book recommendations that are reminiscent of the early internet creepypastas?

Can't think of anything like that aside from maybe House of Leaves but that's because it inspired most of them.

[Anonymous No.23637068]

>>23636986
I read it several times. It's genuinely good.

[Anonymous No.23637080]

I think the problem people have with webnovels and xianxiais that there is no (obvious) delineation like in normal novels. If they reset chapter numbers when you want to start a new arc then they would understand why the story went to complete shit.
You generally have to be a more astute reader to read xianxia and webnovels if you want to find enjoyment.
It's basically just more of westtards projecting their antiquated traditions onto new media and seething when they can't figure out why chapter 2202 is worse than chapter 2201.

[Anonymous No.23637083]

>>23637080
There is no such thing as rereading a single book in a series. The reader is given the freedom to define their own boundaries of what they like. Most are to stupid to even realize they are given this choice, but to the ones that do it either confuses or enrages them. Only the true enlighten elite will set chapter markers during their first reading and update them on sequential rereadings.
Just another win for IMMORTALCHADS

[Anonymous No.23637089]

>he's still replying to himself while absolutely seething

[Anonymous No.23637093]

>>23636991
make your own list so we can add it to the shitpile

[Anonymous No.23637098]

>>23635633
Not xianxia, but read Shadow Slave. It has quite a few chapters and is clearly inspired by them

[Anonymous No.23637106]

>>23637098
>Have you heard of the most popular webnovel on webnovel.com
...

[Anonymous No.23637168]

>>23637089
It's wild to me that someone can sit here the entire day and keep samefagging the entire time.

[Anonymous No.23637179]

>>23637168
>what are jannies

[Anonymous No.23637219]

lies of locke lamora good or not?

[Anonymous No.23637220]

>>23637168
how are you sure that the chinkslop anon is samefagging, and that we are not in fact being invaded by the barbarian hordes from the East?

[Anonymous No.23637221]

not

[Anonymous No.23637235]

>>23637179
If a janny was doing this dissenters would get the axe.

[Anonymous No.23637245]

>>23637235
Jannies can't ban people.

[Anonymous No.23637248]

>>23637220
Because the xianxia spamming happens in a single phase. It starts at a certain time, within it there are seemingly only 2 people replying to each other about random Chinese slop with no real rhyme and reason and then it ends at a certain time.
Like right now, there hasn't been a post like that in an hour and a half.

[Anonymous No.23637262]

I'd rather they just ban everyone who complains about any book or genre and especially other posters. Take that shit to leddit, I don't care what others enjoy.

[Anonymous No.23637274]

>>23637248
>2 people start talking about "chinese slop" at a unspecified time and then, later, at another time it stops. No rhythm or reason
Yes, it's called a conversation you autist. Do you want them to scheduled time in advance to discuss a specific book or topic, what?

[Anonymous No.23637284]

>>23637274
How often do you have a conversation about the same exact thing?

[Anonymous No.23637286]

>>23637248
You seem to know all about spamming.

[Anonymous No.23637289]

>>23637284
Example?

[Anonymous No.23637291]

>>23637219
first book yes, second book fuck no
pretend it's a standalone

[Anonymous No.23637292]

>>23637284
Literally every /sffg/ thread.

[Anonymous No.23637293]

>>23637286
>if you hate something then you actually secretly enjoy it!
Very good argument my reddit friend.

[Anonymous No.23637295]

>>23637293
That wasn't my argument though.

[Anonymous No.23637298]

>>23637289
Just do a single visit to the archive. Happens literally every single day for half a day, can't miss it.

[Anonymous No.23637303]

>>23637298
Like the discussion about lotr, gurm and women authors?

[Anonymous No.23637308]

>>23637298
Yeah, I was asking for you to post the link

[Anonymous No.23637310]

>>23637292
Is it more of a
>is this book good
>yes it is/no it isn't and here's why
>end of conversation
or and uninterrupted, 12 hour long stream of the same topic?

[Anonymous No.23637321]

>>23637310
It's basically "god I love xianxia/loli/litrpg/cunny" and an endless list of meaningless acronyms for 12 hours

[Anonymous No.23637329]

>>23637308
You could just scroll up too you know, last spergout ended just 2 hours ago.

[Anonymous No.23637361]

>>23637329
>>23637248
>>23637259
>>23637267
>>23637270
>>23637274
>>23637284
>>23637286
>>23637292
>>23637293
>>23637295
>>23637298
>>23637303
>>23637308

[Anonymous No.23637364]

>>23637310
>12 hour long stream of the same topic?
Yes, in the last 10 threads somebody has been pushing discussion about female authors.

[Anonymous No.23637373]

Nobody here reads out of their comfort zone, be it western or eastern lit.

[Anonymous No.23637377]

I just got back from exploring the realm of Xianxia, and let me tell you ー it's a wild
ride. This Chinese fantasy subgenre is all about immortal characters with crazy powers,
gods, and demigods.
What really stands out about Xianxia is its unique blend of mythology and spiritual
practices from Chinese culture. You'll see dragons, phoenixes, and other mythical
creatures making appearances, along with gods and goddesses from various sects.
It's like someone took all the best bits of Chinese history and mythology and threw
them into a big ol' blender.
Some popular Xianxia novels include "I Shall Seal The Heavens", "Against the Gods", and
"Martial World". These books are packed with action, drama, and mythology that'll keep
you hooked from start to finish. From cultivation systems that'll make your head spin
to epic battles between gods and mortals, Xianxia has it all.
So if you're looking for something new to read or watch, I highly recommend checking
out some Xianxia. It's definitely a unique and captivating genre that offers a lot to
fans of fantasy and adventure.
What do you think about Xianxia? Have any favorite works or characters from this genre?
P.S. Don't forget to keep your expectations low, because their is a lot of filer.

[Anonymous No.23637379]

>>23637377
>epic battles between gods and mortals
kek

[Anonymous No.23637382]

>>23637379
?

[Anonymous No.23637395]

>>23637373
I can think of only one reason why anyone would ever do that, one may do it to better understand the opposing opinion or an argument (in order to find weaknesses there and get better at refuting the opposing argument) but I don't see anyone reading outside their comfort zone for entertainment.

[Anonymous No.23637403]

>>23637395
>modern /lit/ browser
>actually going out of their way to read a book purely to argue against it
LAUGH OUT LOUD
Nobody here reads out of their comfort-zone of whichever the most communally-voted bestselling popular titles are. The xianxiafags and the fantasyfags all hurl the same exact names at one another, like they're casting spells.

[Anonymous No.23637407]

>>23637377
Kek, why are you so butthurt about xanxia ? Did your wife/gf cucked you with a china man? Why are you so against xanxia?

[Anonymous No.23637410]

My mental health just can't handle this amount of spam. Congrats 4chan you lost a user today. Through you inaction you have allowed this general to decay to destitution. I'm going to shitcord were these spammers would actually be banned. Peace; it was acceptable for a minute.

[Anonymous No.23637411]

>>23637403
best thing about xianxia is how it gets coopted by westerners who entirely miss the point then write their own western xianxia with the implicit suggestion that they’re “writing a better version of the original”.

[Anonymous No.23637412]

>>23637403
why should one read outside of their comfort zone? Can you list some reasons?

[Anonymous No.23637417]

>>23637410
>I can continuously spam /sffg/ with my coom/female/woke posts and literature suggestions
>I can't take 2 posts from based xanxia Chads
Farewell. You won't be missed.

[Anonymous No.23637437]

>>23636480
>>23636505
thank you

[Anonymous No.23637447]

>>23637411
I don't see an issue with westerners doing their own xianxia thing. I DO see stark, almost laughable differences such as the way western progression/"-xia" handles women and tends to handle violence in general. And even when it does something different, it tends to receive negativity (like Heaven's Laws femMC getting raped and then un-raped with male MC instantly executing the raper).I don't even notice proper actual power fantasies anymore, if at all.
Even in progression fantasy, there is only about 3-5 titles talked about. Personally, I wish people here actually discussed the plot and story of Dungeon Crawler Carl.

[Anonymous No.23637448]

>>23637411
This is true. I googled Coiling Dragon and saw reddit thread complaining about CD and telling people to read cradle instead. I checked it out and it's just a redditors take on CD, complete with tumbler level concept art, from a guy whose total experience with the genre is like the 5 most popular xianxia novels that got translated ~2012-16
By his own admission. His critiques (caveats) of the genre aren't surface level, they have packed up left the beach and went back to Boulder, CO, it's what you would expect to read from someone who has only heard conversations about it.
>not feminist
>lost in translation
>op mc
https://www.willwight.com/a-blog-of-dubious-intent/the-ancestors-of-cradle

[Anonymous No.23637458]

>>23637448
Cradle is reddit's most beloved progression fantasy self-pub title. You are not allowed to critique the series -- even the voice actor will step in to post and tell you to stop -- and it is constantly advertised, in the obsessive forced "haha funny joke" way reddit loves to operate. By his own admission, he was cranking out a new book every six months (around the time Underlord came out) for maximum relevancy and profits.

[Anonymous No.23637466]

>>23637448
>5 most popular xianxia novels
Not true. He said he read 8 (Against the Gods, Desolate Era, Coiling Dragon, Martial World, Spirit Realm, Heavenly Jewel Change, and Sovereign of the Three Realms) and he didn't read I Shall Seal The Heavens which, of course, is one of the most popular.

[Anonymous No.23637501]

>>23637466
He made that post in 2016
Desolate era wasn't finished til 2018
Martial world was 2019
Spirit Realm was 2020
Heavenly Jewel Change was 2019
Sovereign of the Three Realms was 2020
Against the Gods isn't even finished now.

Coiling Dragon was the only one that was finished before he made that blogpost. And suprise suprise, his novel is a shallow CD ripoff.

[Anonymous No.23637507]

>>23637466
Also that's 7, not 8

[Anonymous No.23637527]

>>23637412
To validate my tastes.

[Anonymous No.23637578]

>>23637447
i think it all stems from the fact that the concept of “xia” is nearly untranslatable from chinese. you only get stuff like xia when you develop under autocracy, in a flood plain, with nigh constant war and collectivism for pretty much the entirety of your culture’s existence

[Anonymous No.23637644]

>>23632185
https://youtube.com/shorts/uhrarjjnPWY
*pick*
*poke*
*tsap*
*push*

[Anonymous No.23637671]

>>23630208
Is there rape? I have no interest in female dark fantasy characters who don't get raped.
>>23634342
Elric is way more interesting than his stories. They only get somewhat fun in the very end. He's just way more interesting than any of his supporting characters.
>>23635434
Dune Messiah
>>23636255
It's hard to say. All of his stories blend together in my mind. I liked the Outsider, the Colour out of Space, the Thing on the Doorstep and Herbert West: the Re-Animator. I advise you to listen to the audiobooks. Start with Wayne June and whatever he didn't get to narrate has been narrated by Dagoth Ur.

[Anonymous No.23637798]

>>23636986
It's just a retarded ritualposter.
I'm a big xianxiafag and I found it ok at best.

[Anonymous No.23637810]

>>23637798
THEN POST YOUR TOP 5

[Anonymous No.23637813]

I'm sorry but trying to argue that some of the most famously dull xianxias are good and that cradle is bad because of how they conform to your /pol/ sensibilities isn't going to stick.
These are things that people here have actually read.

[Anonymous No.23637824]

>Cradlefag from reddit is a /pol/-obsessed newfag
sasuga
>>>/iteration110/

[Anonymous No.23637859]

>>23637810
I don't really have a top X of any kind of novel, just stuff I enjoy. Been a while since I read a straight xianxia a lot of the ones that fit into that have been "OP guy with a twist" guilty pleasures like making up excercises or i'm really a bigshot cultivator.
Last proper novel I recall enjoying is "The Demonic World I Designed" even if the latest chapters feel like they're dragging on a bit.
I never really saw the fascination with Reverend Insanity and I read it before it started being shilled here, the start was okay with the edgelord and offbeat system but it meanders a shitton after a few hundred chapters and he never really got good at writing characters other than the MC.

[Anonymous No.23637868]

>>23637813
>famously dull
?
Is this some redditor thing?
They don't want people to read the originals they're ripping off?

[Anonymous No.23637872]

Does anyone have a xianxia novel or just cultivation in general with lots of children in it? I want a mc that loves children, doesn't have to explicitly be a pedo, but saves children, takes children as disciples, lots of cute child characters etc
I guess it could be any novel like that though, so if you have something not cultivation related I'll give it a shot, but it should be a long series.
>>23637859
It gets really good ~2000 chapters in, you can probably just hop in around ~1800 ish If I remember correctly
>>23637813
I hope this is satire

[Anonymous No.23637888]

>>>/lit/thread/13414533#p13415543
Lol. Really though, how do you read a protag like Lin Ming then write a character like Lindon? Mongo would be appalled.

[Anonymous No.23637890]

>>23637868
Nobody has ever claimed coiling dragon is good without either being retarded or having an ulterior motive.

[Anonymous No.23637893]

>>23637644
Yeah but then there's 200,000 other guys doing that.

[Anonymous No.23637900]

>>23637872
>xianxia novel or just cultivation in general
>with lots of children in it? I want a mc that loves children,
That's not what xanxia (or cultivation) is about. The prevailing theme of xanxia is seeking of personal longetivity and immortality at any cost. What exactly does longevity and immortality have to do with saving children?
If you want children to be saved, forget xanxia and read western ya and children books like the Bartimaeus series.

[Anonymous No.23637904]

>>23629648
It's good.

[Anonymous No.23637905]

>>23629696
This

[Anonymous No.23637910]

>>23637888
Cradle was published in june 2016, so lets say he didn't start writing til april 2016 at the latest. That means he probably didn't read it as it wasn't even on wuxiaworld til december 2016. I guess he could have been keeping up with the translators before that. From google The hundredth chapter of MW was translated around Dec 24, 2015.
So if he was keeping up, ~150 chapters at most.

[Anonymous No.23637913]

>>23637910
Lin Ming was very consistent about not taking anybody's shit, from the start. 150 chapters at most, even 100 chapters is enough for a feel of Lin Ming's SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT personality trait of not being an apologetic shit.

[Anonymous No.23637916]

>>23637913
I just think it's funny that he claims to have read something and it's at most 150 chapters and likely 0

[Anonymous No.23637920]

>>23637890
>coiling dragon baaad
lmao so I take it the other anon was right in that cradle rips it off heavily and now you have to shittalk it so no one notices?

[Anonymous No.23637922]

>>23637916
That too. It's like the average poster here writing a book.

[Anonymous No.23637955]

Can we get some guys to hunt down 4chan spammers the same way they do with pedos and expose them?
Like find them in a grocery store so we can see them and harass them.
They're the only people who make me want to find them just so I can cut their internet line each and every time it gets fixed.

[Anonymous No.23637969]

>>23631652
I only do it on rereads of some series, like Wheel of Time, where I already know which PoVs are fun to read and which ones aren't, and what's necessary for maintaining the flow of the story and what's just digression.

[Anonymous No.23637998]

>>23637893
More like 2-3000 at some given moment.

[Anonymous No.23638025]

>>23634077
>mfw heretic chick

[Anonymous No.23638059]

>>23638025
Why?

[Anonymous No.23638060]

just finished handmaid's tale, holy fuck what a KINO book. I know people are going to shit on me but I can totally see what it's as popular as it is. I went in completely blind

[Anonymous No.23638233]

>>23637998
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8oU5iM2qS4&list=PL2W7gA4xUUnn8051hB-F0Br0IfTqfwuzu&index=12

[Anonymous No.23638244]

Now that the dust has settled, who was in the wrong here?

[Anonymous No.23638271]

>>23633902
Reverend Bizarre

[Anonymous No.23638305]

>>23636560
I don't like Jack Vance, which is weird. The way he writes and the themes he chose are just my jam, but then I read 10 pages and it turns into marmalade. Just like Bloodborne should be my favourite From game but I just can't play that for shit.

[Anonymous No.23638371]

>>23637373
You'll lose interest, that's simple. It's not just themes and politics, every kind of author writes in a specific way, I tried to read a dozen books from a Goodreads list, something like "new pozzled authors of fantasy and horror", it was all either a) shit b) well done, but not my thing. And the "well done" percentage was very, very low. Fuck even among shit I like there are things I cannot read (ie Horror/John Langan), imagine spending time trying to find a good book among things I dislike.

Getting out of your comfort zone is mostly a waste of time, you already know who you are, it's about tuning into the very specific shit that makes you go on.

[Anonymous No.23638380]

Read Tenebroum

[Anonymous No.23638428]

>>23638305
Tip for all fromsoft games.
Level (health stat) to 30 before doing anything else, unless you're like 3 levels away from the minimum stats required to wield the weapon you want to use. So like the Kirkhammer needs STR to weild, you can do that first if you want, but then vig to 30 before anything else.

As for /lit/. There's Paleblood Hunt. I haven't read it myself but it seems like it's the collected works of effort on what's going on in Bloodborne.

[Anonymous No.23638498]

>>23638428
Thanks, but the "I can't play BB" is not about difficult, but setting, tone, gameplay etc. Played all From games to the end (even Shadow Tower and a few King's Field), and since I like From games so much and Lovecraft is one of my favs that shit should have been the best time ever. It wasn't, I don't know why. The lore is great tho.

>Paleblood Hunt
Gonna check, looks interesting. BB's comic is pretty good to, at least Ales Kot run, Cullen Bunn series was pretty bad imo.

[Anonymous No.23638507]

Was this supposed to be good?

[Anonymous No.23638516]

>>23638305
Personally I like about a good half of his stuff.
There's a big difference between Dying Earth/Demon Princes/Lyonesse/Emphyrio/Moon Moth/Dragon Masters and some of his later SF like the Alastor/Ports of Call/Araminta stuff.

[Anonymous No.23638537]

>>23638498
If you like the Paleblood Hunt, check out the Drowned Tome. It's the same but for Salt and Sanctuary.

[Anonymous No.23638742]

>>23638537
I loved Salt and Sanctuary

[Anonymous No.23638893]

>all these xianxia posts
Is there a decent list of the essentials for the genre?

[Anonymous No.23638938]

>>23638893
I've read and recommend these:
>I Shall Seal The Heavens
>Reverend Insanity
>Way of Choices
>Cradle
>A Thousand Li
>Lord of the Mysteries isn't really xianxia but I'd recommend it
I've read but don't recommend these:
>Forge of Destiny
>Painting the Mists
>Quantum Cultivation
>Coiling Dragon
>Desolate Era
>Street Cultivation straddles the line of xianxia and litrpg and I'd also not recommend *against* it, it's just extremely mid

[Anonymous No.23638961]

>>23638938
Read Soulship and Heaven's Laws :3

[Anonymous No.23638965]

>>23638961
I read the first few chapters of both, they suck.

[Anonymous No.23638995]

>>23638893
No but there's plenty of recs regardless.
Er Gen novels like I Shall Seal the Heavens and Renegade Immortal. Some people love them some hate them. I like mentioning them because they showcase a lot of what makes traditional Xianxia without any frills good.
Fang Xiang novels like World of Cultivation.
A Record of a Mortal is Journey to Immortality
Tales of Herding Gods
The Desolate Era
Transcending the Nine Heavens
The Portal of Wonderland
Chronicles of Primordial Wars
Martial World
True Martial World
The Avalon of Five Elements
Sovereign of the Three Realms
Coiling Dragon
Otherworldly Evil Monarch
Lord Xue Ying
Realms In The Firmament
Library of Heaven’s Path
Gate of Revelation
Forty Millenniums of Cultivation
Emperor’s Domination
Stellar Transformation
Library of Heavens Path
The Spiritual Attainments of Minghe
Carefree Path of Dreams
Lord of the Mysteries
Deep Sea Embers
The Demonic World I Designed
I am the main soul in the Soul Banner
Super Dimensional Wizard
Throne of Magical Arcana
I’m Actually a Cultivation Bigshot
Cultivation Chat Group
Immortal Mortal
Black Tech Internet Cafe
Fantasy: God-level Store Manager

A few of those overlap with other chinese webnovel genres like xuanhuan and some are just straight-up guilty pleasures that use xianxia settings as a backdrop for other purposes rather than pure xianxia stories.
That's just going from some stuff i've mentioned before and adding a few off the top of my head. If I could be bothered to skim through a few pages of webnovel, mtlnovel, lnmtl, 69shuba, piaotian, xianqihaotianmi etc I could probably dredge up like 200 more recs (out of the severeal hundreds i've checked out and/or finished) but I can't be arsed and would rather spend that time reading some more.

[Anonymous No.23639211]

>>23632651
Peak fantasy children's lit.
The main girl is always running barefoot so it's a must read for footfags

[Anonymous No.23639271]

>>23638507
No, but it's interesting in a 'what the fuck was the author thinking' kind of way

[Anonymous No.23639581]

>>23639576
>>23639576
>>23639576
New

[Anonymous No.23639606]

>>23638507
Iron Dragon doesn't have a daughter though.
About the only roller coaster smaller than Iron Dragon is Woodstock Express and Jr. Gemini.
Maybe Bluestreak as well.