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[Anonymous No.23433467]

I finally got my novel ready to be writ. I hope it reads like two suicide notes by the time I'm done with the first draft. Wish me fug.

[Anonymous No.23433525]

>>23433467
Get fugged :D:DDD haha :DD:D benis :D

[Anonymous No.23433537]

>>23433525
Thags :8DDDDDDDD

[Anonymous No.23433552]

>decide to split my story into two halves
>part one is 14 chapters
>part two is 7 at best
The asymmetry is causing me stress. I don't know if I have enough content to make them roughly even.

[Anonymous No.23433606]

>>23433552
cut the boring stuff. so either half of part 1 or all of part 2

do they need to be equal? is that an autism thing?

[Anonymous No.23433618]

>>23433606
>do they need to be equal? is that an autism thing?
Yes. And yes.
It all goes as one story. Just after chapter 14 there is a convenient 1 month time skip where it makes sense to break it up. Also part one is "winter" and part two is "spring". And looking ahead if there is ever a sequel I will do summer and fall then.

[Anonymous No.23433641]

>>23433618
does the late winter part only make sense in winter? i feel like it should be easy to have some parts of the rewritten into the spring part. maybe even introduce a character later or so

[Anonymous No.23433698]

>>23433641
Yes, winter can only be winter because it ends at a ski lodge up a mountain. Then the time skip and spring starts just after St. Patrick's day and the theme changes to parent and child mending their relationship, and there is a lot of imagery of spring and birds making nests and raising babies. As long as I can squeak 3 extra chapters out I would be happy with a 14/10 division.

[Anonymous No.23433893]

Reminder that if you write genreslop you should probably KYS.

[Anonymous No.23433935]

>>23433893
Reminder that you should just write whatever the fuck you want and not be concerned with what autistic fucks on 4chan think

[Anonymous No.23433942]

>>23433893
pyw. let me guess, you don't have any

[Anonymous No.23433954]

>>23433942
You wouldn’t be smart enough to appreciate it.
>>23433935
Nigger.

[Anonymous No.23433990]

>>23433954
You know nothing about me. How can you state, with absolute certainty, that I'm not smart enough to appreciate it? You display Gardner "logic".

[Anonymous No.23434028]

>>23433990
I take that as a compliment. Gardner is the greatest of you.

[Anonymous No.23434049]

>have a playlist for each major character
>can now switch gears just by changing playlists
>can no longer write without playlists

[Anonymous No.23434120]

>>23433303
I wanted to make an actual literary litrpg because I thought maybe because I'm actually a good writer I could come up with something and be king of the idiots, but holy shit I really cannot compete with this kind of autism.

[Anonymous No.23434185]

>>23434120
Is it too early for deconstructions of the genre to be a thing?

[Anonymous No.23434192]

>>23434120
I tried writing one, and I'm about to give up and rewrite the whole thing in typical fantasy. Managing and maintaining stats and skills and expecting your reader to be invested enough in your game systems is too much. People see this crap and wonder why you didn't just make a fantasy novel instead.
The right amount of litrpg is Yajin Tensei. It's barely there, and only to quantify growth.

[Anonymous No.23434197]

What concrete difference(if any) is there between writing a low-functioning autist and your regular retard? The former is what interests me the most.

[Anonymous No.23434209]

>>23434120
I like the idea of a litrpg, but (imo) the video game conventions have to be hard rules and obstacles defining the world, not just ways to represent a world that can very well carry on without them.
>>23434185
No. We're just waiting on a good reconstructive work.
How is society organized, now that intelligence and wisdom are directly quantifiable and every skill or abstraction is an absolutely objective and provable thing?
What does it mean when the stat screen can objectively determine what is or is not a "human"?
Where does engineering fit in?
How does this affect the development of human thought and their ideas regarding what is or isn't possible?

[Anonymous No.23434210]

>>23434197
The things going on inside the head. A low-functioning autist is still thinking and coming to the same answers as a higher-functioning autist (provided the same information). He just struggles to express himself.

[Anonymous No.23434213]

>>23434192
The whole point of this was so I can have a "stable" monthly income from 2 chapters of $4-5k a week (easily doable) in which I don't agonize over the prose and everything. I wanted to have a character arc from my main series and then "fantasize" it by having it be an exaggerated story of this girl and her summer camp friends fighting in the woods and shit, pretending to be fantasy heroes. I was gonna use the stats as a low-key sort of thing for them to play around with rather than anything hardline.
I'm probably gonna do a web serial anyways, but post it on a website of my own design so I can still make some money off of it, while keeping my sanity. Plus, any "rushing" I do can be excused if I write from the character's POV. The character is probably 11 or 12 anyways.

>>23434185
I used the word "deconstruction" and a bunch of litRPGfags got mad and said I WILL fail because I CANNOT write a game to fit a story and ALL LitRPG's have the game first, story second. Maybe I will fail then. That mentality is atrocious.

[Anonymous No.23434216]

>>23434209
My goal ultimately, was to start with her going to the summer camp with her sister, forming a loose "RPG" system and then the classes she took at the summer camp (dissections, survivalism, etc) could be skills and then when she plays in the woods with her friends, she "levels up."

It sounds gay, but I was trying to make a character focused story using the LitRPG mechanics to accentuate the character, instill a sense of childlike wonder, and make it actually matter in the grand scheme of things. Then, she finds a "portal" and then must use the "skills" with her party "for real"

[Anonymous No.23434217]

>>23434197
Autistic people share this trait of being socially retarded. Things you find to be common sense do not register easily to autistic people.
A low functioning autist is like level 3 autism, you'll have someone who can read and do math but speaking is difficult for them and they might get frustrated really easily and speak in simple sentences. They find something that makes them comfortable and obsess over it all day. They usually get frustrated and lash out if something bothers them, especially if they have something like an ear infection.

A regular retard is just low IQ, they can probably be taught how to use the bathroom and eat with utensils but don't expect them to ever do anything amazing with their lives.

[Anonymous No.23434223]

>>23434216
If you introduce an element, it should be a real part of the story. If it's nothing more than a quantitative blurb, it's wasteful.

[Anonymous No.23434224]

My older brother, Jacob, is four years older than I am and is ‘of age’ to take over the family’s duties. He had been groomed his entire life for this task, and today the lucky guy gets to spend the rest of his years as a shite farmer along a fertile tract of land with no roads and no wagons.

Me? I’m sent off to become a laborer. Don’t send for me; I won’t reply.

[Anonymous No.23434226]

>>23434223
I agree, which is why I was debating the whole RPG aspect. I wanted it to exist as a fun thing the children do among one another, but I'm debating getting rid of it

[Anonymous No.23434232]

>>23434226
If you clarify that it's just a children's game, it's fine. Communicate it as such using dialogue and everyone will understand.

[Anonymous No.23434303]

>>23434224
“Aye, ye’ll be makin’ nails until ye hate makin’ nails.”

The old asshole taught me how to hammer raw iron into a nail, and so I would make approximately twelve of them an hour for nine hours each day. Food was bread though occasionally we had other things like hard cheese and local vegetables.

Fuck him, I love making nails.

[Anonymous No.23434325]

I just wrote this stream of consciousness and I think it's pretty good. Anyone have any feedback?
A pile of ashes. Confusion. A stake on fire in a pile of burning ashes. Worry. Frightened faces. Eyes of terror. Anxiety. A burning torch. Pitchforks. Confusion. Humans. Village homes. Pitchforks. Terrified eyes. Disbelief. Fear. Terror. Indignation. Outrage. Anger.

Anger. Anger. Anger. Anger. Anger. A terrified face. Red. A head. A man. A man. A man. A woman. A man. Pleasant warmth on hands. A man's back. A man with a torch. Eyes of terror. A searing pain in hand. Hatred. Liquid flowing down hands. Burning village homes.

Something burning. Fleshy bits. An itching on a cheek. An arm. Black smoke. A dirt road. An itching on a cheek. Blood. Sooty clawed fingers. The dirt road. The sky. Empty. Void.

[Anonymous No.23434329]

>>23434325
I'm sure your abstract genderbent genderfluid genderqueer two-spirit yoga instructor/poetry guru will tell you it's something phenomenal but this is the 2nd/3rd time I've seen this and it doesn't make any sense

[Anonymous No.23434340]

>>23434120
I spent some time thinking about why I hate litrpgs so much and if could I do it in a way that wouldn't make me hate myself and wish I were dead.

I thought about the system elements, like what if I designed a cool UI for the stats and made those jarring boxes into illustrative elements that actually serve the story and build atmosphere? Then I came across one highly rated litrpg at RR, where the author had also designed their own status windows and wondered why everything is so dumb HUGE. Then it hit me: of course, a big chunk of the readerbase for this crap are also filthy phone plebs! So anything else but a basic-ass, freely scalable HTML-form will be unreadable on many people's devices.
Fuck it, this shit is just unsalvageable.

[Anonymous No.23434354]

>>23434340
why dont you people just make a video game instead of degenerating a whole seperate artform you clearly dont know anything about?

[Anonymous No.23434355]

>>23434325
Has this already become a copypasta?

[Anonymous No.23434356]

>>23434354
Fuck off, 'toss

[Anonymous No.23434429]

There comes a point where I'm writing fine then suddenly I hit a wall and the words won't come. It's not writer's block, it's that I literally can't think of words. It's usually around midnight.

[Anonymous No.23434439]

>>23434429
It's called being tired. The condition usually passes when you go to sleep.

[Anonymous No.23434442]

>>23434049
That is quite a cool idea. What music would you use?

[Anonymous No.23434444]

>>23434429
I usually get dead tired and that's when the words come out.
I can't write in the morning, or for several hours after getting bitched at.

[Anonymous No.23434460]

>>23434340
Again, it has to factor into the story.
This shouldn't just be an audience feature. The world should care. Guilds should have a stat requirement. People should be pushy about builds and nosy about stat distributions. Social circles should be defined by them, and anything allowing one to redistribute stats should be the holy grail of that world.

[Anonymous No.23434471]

>>23434460
>anything allowing one to redistribute stats should be the holy grail of that world
That's how the MC from Min-Maxing TRPG works, and while it's technically a litrpg there aren't levels or adventurer's guilds, he's one of the only ones able to admin his own stats and it makes him really powerful but he's still a small fish in a large pond.

[Anonymous No.23434473]

>>23434354
that's the point, though. the writers have a clear framework that allows them to focus on creativity, and the readers still know what to expect. it's mutually beneficial slop economy.

[Anonymous No.23434482]

>>23434460
if i were ever to write a litrpg, i’d make it an isekai specifically for the culture shock. imagine overhearing two peasants discussing how strong, wise, etc. their crops are with reasonable medieval-fantasy-sounding jargon only to learn that they were trying to minmax their onion-turnip distribution. imagine hearing mmo/rpg jargon filtered through thousands of years of cultural development.

[Anonymous No.23434560]

How do you deal with friends who laugh at you or look down on you for writing? inb4 they are not your real friends, they're normally good confidants and give helpful advice but for some reason this one thing is a joke to them.

[Anonymous No.23434562]

>>23434560
Stop telling them about it.

[Anonymous No.23434569]

>>23434562
I barely tell them anything because of this, but it comes up in conversation when they ask why I can't play games that night or whatever.

[Anonymous No.23434572]

>>23434562
it also just sucks to know your friends look down on your passion. It's just these guys, everyone else I know is either unbothered or finds it interesting that I'm into writing. anyway /rant

[Anonymous No.23434576]

>>23434185
Worth the Candle is a deconstruction something something. Standard litrpgs probably focus much more on making you feel like you're reading a video game, this one stops inserting stat screens into the text pretty early on, but it does stay crucial to the plot.
I haven't found any other LitRPGs I liked enough to keep reading.

[Anonymous No.23434582]

Could you anons review a short story I wrote?

I wrote this almost a year ago for a girl I had a fling with in France for fun so she would have something to remember me by and i've never shown it to anyone else because it is so absurd and ridiculous that I'm not sure if it is good or not but I keep coming back to it and reading it and I really enjoy it so I am very curious what anons might think. I'd never wrote a short story prior to this.

https://publuu.com/flip-book/526018/1178579

[Anonymous No.23434593]

>>23434582
It was really well written but i got trig'd by the H, and it takes a whole lot of Jesus to keep me clean lol

[Anonymous No.23434610]

How do you deal with friends who you’ve mentioned writing to and a year later say “you still haven’t let me see your work” but you’re embarrassed to show them your stupid retarded shit about goblins and elves that just shows how lonely and pathetic you are and you just want to kill yourself oh my god I hate my life.

[Anonymous No.23434621]

>>23434610
I'm about to branch off of fantasy and do something fantasy/sci-fi, the whole fantasy market is saturated.

[Anonymous No.23434644]

>>23434593
>trig'd by the H
What does this mean?

[Anonymous No.23434660]

>>23434644
H is a slang term for smack

[Anonymous No.23434669]

is there genuinely nothing like AO3 without the smut and fanfic?

[Anonymous No.23434674]

>>23434660
Smack?

[Anonymous No.23434689]

>>23434660
Ah okay sorry. Maybe I should have put a trigger warning up.

[Anonymous No.23434693]

>>23434689
It's all good man. It's well-written, looks like you polished it up.

[Anonymous No.23434695]

>>23434669
I wish Syosetu had an english language section for WN style writing.
I almost want to learn Japanese so i can write there because we don't have anything cool like that.

[Anonymous No.23434700]

>https://docs.google.com/document/d/12FoS--tLIJJXMXjh6EbO3YUNm7wcBLuAMnSqcYQwGvE
Just finished this rough draft the other day and could use another set of eyes on it if anyone's available.

[Anonymous No.23434704]

>>23434700
LOL

[Anonymous No.23434811]

I'm caught between two worlds here anons. When my current (and first) book is finished I want to start on a massive piece. I have 2 ideas I'm equally excited about.

The first is a huge multi-storied text about society and the modern day from many perspectives, a la Les Miserables, or War and Peace. Various characters with differing opinions at different levels of society, all with some interwoven central plot.

The other would be a sort of Grand narrative Game of Thrones esq plot, less focussed on combat or war. More on the idea of people, politics, manoeuvres and power plays.

Man I just want to write them both but they're going to be huge and I couldn't write them both.

[Anonymous No.23434818]

>>23434811
You absolutely have to choose between them if they're going to be as big as you say.
Personally, the first one seems a lot more interesting to me. There's already too many GoT ripoffs.

[Anonymous No.23434907]

>>23434818
Yeah like Dune /s

[Anonymous No.23434939]

Stop getting mad at books.

[Anonymous No.23434960]

>>23434907
Anon, are you trying to say that Dune ripped off ASOIAF?

[Anonymous No.23434962]

Sometimes when i get stuck writing my shitty fantasy WN I'll break open a new LN and start reading it. The Great Cleric is fun to read.

[Anonymous No.23434965]

>>23434960
>three words and a sarcasm tag

[Anonymous No.23434980]

>>23434965
>sarcasm tag
oh that's what that was

[Anonymous No.23435047]

so I'm conceptualizing a sci-fi futuristic story about humans spreading out into the galaxy based on some article i read about using nano satellites in a huge swarm to accelerate them to near light using a laser and then using the laser to communicate with them.
then, some kind of cargo capsule that is linear accelerated sans-life a few hundred years in advance so the two can sync up in orbit around a far-off near-earth like planet and the capsule collects the nano satellites full of human DNA, crashes into the planet, and populates the world through genetic reconstruction.
anyfuckinways,
so the main character is a researcher who is like an 8th generation human who is part of this village of settlers that got deposited onto this planet and once they reach a certain critical mass, like 2500 people or something, they go off and start exploring, looking for intelligent life to maybe meet or fuck idk and theres no space ships or anything cool.
Does this kill the sci-fi if it's fantasylike?

[Anonymous No.23435059]

>>23435047
>Does this kill the sci-fi if it's fantasylike?
This genuinely depends on the audience. If you want to appease the autists then it will be a problem. If you don't care then it's fine.

[Anonymous No.23435067]

>>23434700
Anyone? Or is it worldbuilding time for the next 16 hours?

[Anonymous No.23435068]

>>23435059
I realized how close it sounds to avatar, but I'm really not trying to make it anything like that. I'd like for it to be more like star trek but more localized.

[Anonymous No.23435075]

>>23435067
I feel like I need to be a certain audience to enjoy this. I'll give it a read though.

[Anonymous No.23435088]

>>23435047
Sci-fi is a very peculiar kind of rot. When you put sci-fi elements into a work of any other genre, that work automatically converts to sci-fi and can't be anything else after that.

[Anonymous No.23435124]

>>23434700
>>23435075
I kinda want to read the rest. You want someone to tell you it's good? It's good.

[Anonymous No.23435135]

>>23435124
That'll work. First impressions are important and since it's a tough draft, maybe that's all that's necessary to get me to edit it and make it better. Thanks, fren.

[Anonymous No.23435143]

>>23434818
Yeah, I kind of think the same thing. I have more ideas for the former, too, which is probably a sign. But the second one seems like it would be far easier and more lucrative than a 1000 page lampoon

[Anonymous No.23435148]

>>23435135
I got PTSD reading it. Great job.

[Anonymous No.23435153]

>>23434610
You dont show them, simple as

[Anonymous No.23435156]

>>23434569
Tell them that you are currently fucking their mom then. It's not that hard anon.

[Anonymous No.23435158]

>>23435156
>It's not that hard anon.
true, I don't why I let it get to me so much

[Anonymous No.23435163]

>>23435088
no one cares. we've thrown everything under like 6 genres forever. it's only a vague starting point for looking for something.

[Anonymous No.23435171]

>>23435088
>go out
>meet the babes
>interspecies hanky panky
>oh snap she knows how to use magic
>insert my uvula into her cloaca
>jiggity giggity

[Anonymous No.23435187]

>>23434442
Different people are different so I use any and all music that I think captures their personalities or story arcs.

I've got a character that's a naive young woman torn between wanderlust and her obligations to her home so her playlist sounds like this:
https://youtu.be/Pvb1F6ob_hI

Another character is a doctor that's fixated on curing death but is so deep in the weeds that they create something like a zombie outbreak without realizing it, so their playlist is all high-minded orchestral stuff:
https://youtu.be/C3skXjCmvVc

Another character is schizophrenic so all of the songs on their playlist have at least two vocalists:
https://youtu.be/PmBnpapppN4

Another character with undiagnosed ADHD has a lot of noisy introspective songs:
https://youtu.be/tdC3-XhOzNM

Another character is leading their community through a major conflict so their playlist is very "combative":
https://youtu.be/F7Ex-ubaU6A

Another character lives vicariously through the people they support because they're a coward so their playlist focuses on themes like regret and overcoming fear:
https://youtu.be/T8obR2hx6Og

Another character is in law enforcement but also has a LOT of anger issues and struggles to be fair and just when dealing with criminals so their playlist has a lot of heavy metal and harsh vocals:
https://youtu.be/qyYmS_iBcy4

Another character is cop that was an orphan that's never fit in anywhere... until they go undercover with a criminal group and start being treated like family, so their playlist comes from a BROAD range of genres to capture them not fitting in, but every track tends to focus on themes like loneliness, not fitting in, found family, etc:
https://youtu.be/GEGieUB4b3c

etc, etc, etc.

I like the approach so far. It does get a little tricky when writing scenes with multiple characters interacting because it's cumbersome to switch playlists constantly. I currently make an outline for major interactions that contain the major beats for each participant and write them all separately for each character and then try to integrate them piece by piece by plucking actions and responses from my outlines and placing them in the main text and editing them for coherence, if that makes sense.

My main problem is I've noticed that the side and background characters tend to match the energy of the playlists of the characters that are the main focus. If I'm listening to thrash metal because I'm writing the character with anger issues, I tend to write the one-off bad guys they're fighting with the same energy. Which is a problem if one bad guy is scared and another is composed and calm.

I'm not sure I want playlists for every side character. I'm considering some "neutral" playlists for general moods like "scared person", "sensible person", "chipper service worker", etc, but some of that might end up being elevator music or something.

[Anonymous No.23435202]

>>23435088
[Gene Wolfe has entered the chat]
and
*laughs in Space Western*

[Anonymous No.23435247]

>>23433303
>get a gf
>daily chit-chat takes up all my hours previously used for writing
Is it even possible to conciliate the two?

[Anonymous No.23435262]

>>23435247
You have to have a conversation about your schedule. Less yapping and more quality time.

[Anonymous No.23435263]

>>23435247
Yes, right now you're just in what is referred to as the honeymoon phase. Soon you guys will settle back down into a more normal routine, which includes you having time for things like writing and whatnot.

[Anonymous No.23435267]

>>23434213
>ALL LitRPG's have the game first, story second
WTF even is this? Would these people be better off just reading a tabletop RPG rulebook straight through?

[Anonymous No.23435273]

>>23433303
Should be renamed in
>Writing litrpg general

[Anonymous No.23435277]

>>23435267
>All litrpgs have the game first, story second
Yes, listen to the dude who doesn't write or even read in the genre and is trying to get into it purely for the money, I'm sure he's a good source for 'how litrpg works'

[Anonymous No.23435283]

>>23435273
It is the only relevant modern genre of writing, so I agree

[Anonymous No.23435293]

>>23435262
That may do it, I will have to set a specific hour or something related to my work and my hobby. Honestly, I had this same problem with my ex, voiding her specifically because she was too attention-demanding. But I don't want to resort to this again.

>>23435263
She's a NEET, even if the honeymoon phase ends I don't think she would have a schedule at all.

[Anonymous No.23435295]

>>23435277
Yes, better to interact with you, a faggot who derails conversations to kvetch about how those conversations aren’t being held for the right reasons. Do you have anything to contribute other than being a dumb bitch? Didn’t think so.

[Anonymous No.23435300]

>>23435295
My contribution is pointing out you don't know what you're talking about :)
Though I suppose anyone dumb enough to listen to you is hopeless anyway
Why so mad?

[Anonymous No.23435303]

>>23435267
This is literally it. People are just too lazy to actually boot up Steam, and even READ, so they go for LitRPG audiobooks

[Anonymous No.23435307]

>>23435267
It's the perfect way for gamers to say they read without reading an actual book. No surprise that this has become big in the tiktok era

[Anonymous No.23435308]

>>23435303
>People are just too lazy to actually boot up Steam, and even READ, so they go for LitRPG audiobooks
"People" don't read, much less read fantasy, much less read litrpg. The fuck is wrong with you retards. This genre literally doesn't exist to 99.99% of the population

[Anonymous No.23435312]

>>23435307
>no surprise this has become big
>largest litrpg is like 10,000 ratings on goodreads, 2% the size of a sanderson novel, and most people don't know who the fuck sanderson even is
delusional thread

[Anonymous No.23435322]

>>23435312
I'm guessing you're a litrpg reader or something?
I've had multiple normies at work talk to me about it. It's bigger than you think.

[Anonymous No.23435329]

>>23435308
>if I should loud enough the padded walls will agree with me

[Anonymous No.23435331]

>>23435322
You work in some turbo autistic profession? I'm not going to say it's a literal unknown, but finding people who even read fantasy books is rare IRL, and litrpg is no bigger than 5-10% the fantasy readerbase. You can literally check goodreads to verify that.

[Anonymous No.23435334]

>>23435329
you're delusional

[Anonymous No.23435336]

I have a small stack of mental disorders (diagnosed, not self-diagnosed like some Tumblr twit) and occasionally either deliberately go off my meds to write during the day or at night I'll write while on Ambien and Benadryl.
Lately, I've decided to take a stab at Science Fantasy. I made the decision (while high on sleeping medication) to make the first story this blog post.
Just kidding.
I decided to put it through the eyes of a young lieutenant from a minor aristocratic family suddenly being faced with the realities of war.
I drew influences from Dune, 40K (so Dune twice?) World War I, and the late Roman Empire/HRE.
I suppose what I'm wondering is if the random internet strangers think there is enough of a market for this to be worth writing a 300 page story?

[Anonymous No.23435341]

>>23435312
Top rated works are filled with single review accounts or dead boomers. You should update your parameters to only include reviews from people who read day-to-day

[Anonymous No.23435345]

>>23435293
>She's a NEET, even if the honeymoon phase ends I don't think she would have a schedule at all.
Marry her, put a baby in her and then she'll be distracted by the baby.

[Anonymous No.23435347]

>>23435331
I am a developer so yes turbo autism except none of the litrpg people were other devs.
>litrpg is no bigger than 5-10% the fantasy readerbase
That's not a small amount, anon.
>goodreads
goodreads is not a source of truth bro

[Anonymous No.23435353]

>>23435336
My doctor gives me a lot of meds and I pretend to take them. I'm afraid if I take one of these, my cognition will change for the worse and I'll lose my rhythm for writing.

[Anonymous No.23435355]

>>23435347
Goodreads is owned by Amazon. It’s not a source of truth. It IS the truth.

[Anonymous No.23435363]

>>23435355
there's a lot incorrect about your statement but whatever, I don't care about litrpg to debate this, but I consider anything that normies speak to me about at work to be mainstream

[Anonymous No.23435364]

>>23435347
I'm arguing against the retarded take that litrpg is "big" and that
>People are just too lazy to actually boot up Steam, and even READ, so they go for LitRPG audiobooks

How many people do you think frequently read fantasy novels, anon? Much less litrpg...

>goodreads
It's a pretty good source, anon. Certainly the best we have, lacking sales numbers. In fact I think litrpg is overrepresented there because it's such a rabid, tight niche that everyone rates and reviews everything they read in that subgenre. Big fantasy novels meanwhile have swarms of normies reading them and never going to goodreads.

[Anonymous No.23435369]

This but not.

[Anonymous No.23435371]

>>23435364
>How many people do you think frequently read fantasy novels, anon? Much less litrpg...
>swarms of normies reading them
a lot? fantasy is massive now, especially post-GoT

>I'm arguing against the retarded take that litrpg is "big"
it's not that retarded. I'm not saying it's a household genre, but it's not a niche genre that only NEETs read.

[Anonymous No.23435382]

>>23435345
Only if I can make it selling unedited litrpg xianxia.

[Anonymous No.23435386]

>>23435371
IDK man, go click on the litrpg tag in amazon and look at the BSR rankings for them
Then click "Epic Fantasy" and look at the BSRs there
It really isn't even close. That's as close to an objective truth as you can get
And man, I wish I knew more people that read fantasy. I worked in IT for a bit, a nerdier profession than most, and literally none of them were frequent readers.
Anecdotal evidence will be anecdotal I guess
But the amazon sales rankings don't lie

[Anonymous No.23435390]

>>23435386
I didn't say it was as big as fantasy but whatever, I concede that what I said was anecdotal and honestly mate I was as surprised as you when I heard people talking about it at work.
Unfortunately I've found that litrpg readers don't read much of anything else, maybe some middle grade fantasy, but it wasn't like finding a fellow reader I could chat with.

[Anonymous No.23435392]

>>23435363
>there's a lot incorrect about your statement but whatever,
Is it not owned by Amazon?

[Anonymous No.23435398]

How do you integrate philosophy into your writing?

[Anonymous No.23435401]

>>23435392
my problem was you saying it IS the truth, as if amazon is the only place people buy books from. It doesn't matter though I'm done with this discussion

[Anonymous No.23435403]

>>23435353
YES!!!
You get it!
Art is ruled by the Muses and they demand sacrifice! Ignoring the advice of psychiatrists and therapists is worth it if I can write a few pages.
>>23435382
You might be able to.
"50 Shades of Gray" was originally pornographic slash fanfic for fucking "Twilight".

[Anonymous No.23435410]

>>23435398
By either having characters thinking, characters speaking, or characters engaging.
A story is at least to a degree, a reflection of reality, even if that reflection is only metaphorical.

[Anonymous No.23435419]

I think I struggle with staying on a point. When a character needs to say something, I just have them say it, and when I need to make a point, I just make it, but there's no fluff, no artistic strokes. The greats seem to drag points out for multiple paragraphs or even pages at a time.

[Anonymous No.23435437]

I'm the market for litrpg, but i prefer Japanese authors.
litrpg-styled isekai light novels are what I spend money on. Stuff like Mushoku Tensei, Min-maxing TRPG, TenSura, Tsukimichi Moonlit Fantasy, The Great Cleric, and stuff people don't typically consider litrpg because they're not from western authors.

[Anonymous No.23435440]

I want to make dozens of dollars, too! How do I convert my magical school young adult story into a litRPG?

[Anonymous No.23435445]

>>23435440
I'm glad you asked, for just 8 easy payments of 49.95 i can teach even you how to add pointless game stats to your generic fantasy story and make your readers swoon.

[Anonymous No.23435450]

This thread becomes more pathetic by the day. It's impressive really.

[Anonymous No.23435451]

>>23435419
Sometimes they're building up to make a point meaningful, or bringing together themes that they've also been play around with. I find that any critical event has been slowly built into a moment that best expresses it and that novice authors fail to do that, while also failing to recognize that there's a flow of tension and a critical mass that has to be built and ridden out to its logical extreme.

[Anonymous No.23435453]

>>23435336
I should note that the more fantasy elements are on the periphery for the most part.
The story acknowledges the existence of Alchemists, Psionicists, and Imperial Paladins but they only have brief appearances.
It's mostly a young man enduring the fuckery of the Imperial Legion's army (much of it based on my real-life experiences) until his unit finally gets deployed and then the whole truth of what a war is like comes crashing down on him.
It's not going to even have some sort of victory; out of some 50 of his men, all of 9 are intended to still be alive at the end of this and only because the MC organized a retreat to avoid being overrun.

[Anonymous No.23435455]

>>23435450
feel free to contribute

[Anonymous No.23435458]

>>23435450
That’s because I make an effort to derail it. You people were always pricks to me, so I destroy your threads.

[Anonymous No.23435461]

>>23435450
>This thread becomes more pathetic by the day. It's impressive really.
That's what she said.
>>23435445
>for just 8 easy payments of 49.95 i can teach even you how to add pointless game stats to your generic fantasy story
That should get you the "D&D Player's Handbook", "Monster Manual", "Dungeon Master's Guide" and a used copy of "Savage Species".

[Anonymous No.23435462]

>>23435458
I always knew it was one guy who was mad that his writing was shit
Funny how being a petty troll doesn't make you a better writer

[Anonymous No.23435463]

>>23435458
I legitimately laughed out loud. I'm here for shit posting, but because it's funny. You shitpost because you're mad at having your feelings hurt?
Christ. It's been a while since I've read something that pathetic

[Anonymous No.23435506]

>>23435437
You and your preferences are repulsive.
Your front door is unlocked.

[Anonymous No.23435530]

>>23434965
>using sarcasm on 4chan
Have some fucking respect you little punk

[Anonymous No.23435539]

>>23435293
Send her snipe hunting or get her a cat

[Anonymous No.23435547]

I'm so burnt out bros... I want to start on something new but I can't... And I want to start emailing agents but it's not ready. It's so close but it's not ready but it's SO close but it's not ready and it SO CLOSE BUT IT ISN'T FUCKING READY.

[Anonymous No.23435565]

>>23434460
>>23434482
You must not read a lot of litRPG. This is very common. Look at this opening, for example:

https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/30131/seaborn/chapter/455905/1-whaling

[Anonymous No.23435570]

>>23435547
My solution to this problem is to spend genuine effort writing the dumbest, shittiest, most knuckle-draggingest shitposts i can manage. Like, exceptionally low-brow and retarded.
I don't know why this works, but it does.
You might feel like you're wasting time doing this, but you'd be wasting time anyway.

[Anonymous No.23435573]

>>23435570
>>23435547
Freewriting or short stories work in the same way.

[Anonymous No.23435576]

>>23435336
Based schizo retard.
We make the best writers. Go nuts.

[Anonymous No.23435584]

>>23435461
Don’t go around sharing my secrets

[Anonymous No.23435587]

>>23435506
>oh no

[Anonymous No.23435589]

anyone have a muse irl?

[Anonymous No.23435592]

>>23435576
what the fuck is it with altered mental states and writing? i wrote some of my best prose during the time i refused to use my CPAP for multiple years, and as a result my brain was both oxygen and sleep deprived to the point that i developed severe narcolepsy.

[Anonymous No.23435593]

>>23435453
>A cutscene, because it ain't like anyone's gonna buy it after I publish, so is it REALLY a spoiler?
The walls of the dugout shook as thunder filled the air, with one blast after another.
Outside, between blasts of shells, I could hear screams and shouts.
The previous barrages had been short, perhaps three to five rounds, but this one was continuing.
This was different.
I moved to the entry of the dugout and I was met with pandemonium.
Rounds of artillery and mortars seemed to be failing like deadly hail, erupting into fire and deadly shards of shrapnel in bursts overhead.
Vyne, of all people seemed to have found his purpose.
Boldly rushing through the killing storm of steel, he grabbed Corporal Li by his arms and tried to drag him into the trench, only for a blast to rock them both, with Vyne thrown back and Li howling in pain before suddenly going quiet, despite continuing to slowly move his limbs and mouth.
Vyne rushed back to his feet, red wounds blossoming in his uniform, bits of steel pierced him, but he ran to Li, and grabbed him again by his hands to pull him inside, only to realize that Li had been blown in half, entrails hung loose from his trunk.
He roared in frustration, and ran down the trench looking for anyone to assist, seemingly oblivious to his own condition.
Disturbingly, Li’s upper half continued to make slight movements, before eventually going still.
More rounds slammed the trench line, as the remains of my platoon scrambled to the relative shelter of the entrenchment.
Vyne and Nabac were working together to help Preston to the dugout.
Thissen was missing his left leg beneath the knee and was shrieking in pain.
Vyne was dripping blood and I was worried about just how deep some of the shell fragments had gotten.
“Senoj!” I shouted, getting my remaining sergeant’s attention. “Vyne is now injured, get him to stop, and get Nabac some help, everyone into the dugout!” I ordered.
Sergeant Senoj was shouting at the troops to get in, but the barrage was so loud that he couldn’t be heard.

[Anonymous No.23435617]

>>23435592
>what the fuck is it with altered mental states and writing?
I don't know but I noticed while my prose significantly improves when I'm drop-dead tired, my story coherency also plummets.

That's why I storyboard sharp and well-rested, and actually write the things when tired.

[Anonymous No.23435619]

>>23435592
Supposedly poets used to drink absinthe, and Poe and Milton were both opium users.
>>23435576
Going nuts is indeed part of the plan.

[Anonymous No.23435625]

>>23435593
that's pretty good man
I'm a 40k junkie, so fucked military fiction with light fantasy really scratches my 'nads in a good way.

[Anonymous No.23435630]

>>23435625
>I'm a 40k junkie, so fucked military fiction with light fantasy really scratches my 'nads in a good way.
Would you like an unfinished short story with big stompy mechs? I guarantee it's edgy and I guarantee it's likely not good.

[Anonymous No.23435635]

>>23435458
Based. Keep it up, king.

[Anonymous No.23435673]

>>23435398
Use it as a character's framework for informing moral or ethical views.
Someone who doesn't distinguish between virtue and morality might say, "the right thing to do" in a general sense.
Someone who doesn't think much about it would default to their childhood programming or their community's values.
A strong believer in utilitarianism might propose solutions which have the greatest total benefit across all parties, even if the result is unorthodox.
You should read basic overviews of philosophies (The Hundred Schools of Thought period is rich) and identify common trends.

[Anonymous No.23435705]

>>23435593
>Muh grimdack
No.

[Anonymous No.23435710]

>>23435705
If you think that's grimd-ACK! then you haven't seen what foot infantry gets to experience in my short story.

[Anonymous No.23435779]

>>23435710
I dunno man; another dude gets his junk blown off and of the 51 men in that platoon only 9 make it out alive, the majority of them with crippling injuries.
>>23435705
I’m sure you’re Charles Dickens, right?

[Anonymous No.23435796]

>Ipso facto
How the fuck does one even use this in a sentence? It just seems like the kind of thing someone would write to try and show off.

[Anonymous No.23435819]

>>23435779
>only 9 make it out alive
Heh. Try 0.

[Anonymous No.23435892]

why are there so many litrpg fags? it's such an incredibly niche and unserious """genre""" but literally everyone here is constantly theorycrafting their rpg cashgrabs. is it just a function of anime polluting people's taste?

[Anonymous No.23435905]

>>23435892
A bunch of them were turned into anime and now western authors want to write them too.
99% of them suck.

[Anonymous No.23435909]

>>23434582
Very enjoyable read anon. Thread needs more content like this. Well done.

[Anonymous No.23435911]

>>23435905
>99%
low estimate

[Anonymous No.23435914]

>>23434669
No, I really wish there was though. I hate sites with algorithms so much.

[Anonymous No.23435922]

>>23435914
And also the robust tagging system. Tagging systems on other places are so barebones.

[Anonymous No.23435925]

>>23433303
Are women good at hiding them wanting to date someone only to fill the void of another leaving them or is it usually something that is obvious?

[Anonymous No.23435930]

>>23435925
writing? literature? literally anything other than your blog?

[Anonymous No.23435938]

>>23435911
Most of the good ones have been turned into anime.
Overlord and Konosuba were pretty good, Danmachi was pretty good, shield hero was pretty good, Arifureta was pretty good but the anime sucked. Most of the novel versions of these are perfectly consumable.
Overlord and Konosuba are actually really well written novels.

[Anonymous No.23435940]

>>23435892
probably the part where you can make more in patreonbucks writing them than the vast majority of tradpubbed authors

[Anonymous No.23435948]

>>23435940
I seen people making bank with visual novels too, especially the smut variety. Before patron kicked all of the porn off their site it was full of people making bank on low effort porn

[Anonymous No.23435962]

>>23435938
Overlord is the example of actual trash. It quickly slides in quality.

Konosuba is great though.
>Danmachi was good
No it fucking wasn't. Steaming pile of dogshit
>Shieldcuck good
No. See above.

Dungeon Meshi is the holy grail of fantasy. Konosuba is great because it doesn't take itself seriously and stays true to itself.

[Anonymous No.23435968]

>>23435948
that's still a thing. they didn't ban porn completely, they just made the rules more stringent to comply with payment processors
https://rule34video.com/models/nyl/
https://www.patreon.com/nyl2/about
>$34,190/month

[Anonymous No.23435973]

>>23435968
>3D animation
Much, much higher effort than poorly drawn smut VN.

[Anonymous No.23435983]

>>23435973
>poorly drawn smut VN.
plenty of those left on patreon, too.

[Anonymous No.23435984]

>>23435819
I need there to be survivors because it’s a trilogy.

[Anonymous No.23435986]

>>23434473
i wouldnt call any litRP "creative" by any stretch of the word. And we as creators and audience should expect the best from everything. Thats how we get better. slop is the embodiment of stagnation and decline, i.e. modern art

[Anonymous No.23435989]

>>23434473
>a clear framework that allows them to focus on creativity
i'll never understand how you can say this with a straight face

[Anonymous No.23435990]

>>23435930
I'm writing a woman who is only into someone to fill the void and since I'm not a woman I wonder if they should be obvious about it or not

[Anonymous No.23435995]

>>23435968
This one guy was making like 120+k a year making his shitty ren'py VN on patreon before they bent him over and fucked him with no notice.
He's probably making more now

[Anonymous No.23435998]

>>23435984
In my case it's a record of what went on.
Though the short story is like a side-story to the actual novel I'm kind of not really planning to write. Semi-hard scifi, strong focus on military themes and big stompy mechs and the cost of war.

[Anonymous No.23436000]

>>23434354
>why dont you people just make a video game
Because that takes skill. Coming up with a stat window takes no skill.
Any more questions?

[Anonymous No.23436016]

>>23436000
by that logic, they shouldnt write books either

[Anonymous No.23436022]

is it true you have to read alot to be able to write?
i want to write an adventure game but i don't read books at all.

[Anonymous No.23436023]

>>23436022
yes. leave and do not return until you've read 200 books, at least 50 of which being from the western canon.

[Anonymous No.23436024]

>>23436016
You're right.

[Anonymous No.23436026]

>>23436022
what do you mean an "adventure game"? like a point-and-click? those are probably more inspired by movie and cartoon screenwriting than literature

[Anonymous No.23436028]

>>23436022
No.

You either write a lot or read a lot. Your writing will suck unless you are extremely gifted unless you do a lot of either.
This is the cope people will not tell you about.

[Anonymous No.23436039]

>>23436022
Nah just tell chatgpt to write you a book, copy paste it on amazon, and profit literally all pajeets do in their free time. There's 100k top selling pajeet books on amazon

[Anonymous No.23436044]

>>23436039
post some.

[Anonymous No.23436078]

>>23435989
Not him but it is not paradoxical. Human creativity is derived from our problem-solving intelligence, so restraints - ie problems - are what it thrives on. Sandbox dowhateverthefuckery is rarely truly original.

[Anonymous No.23436083]

>>23436044
nta but ai trash actually is taking over (and even making good profit) in stuff like self help books and recipe books. and it gets noticed and banned pretty fast but some slip through the cracks and get picked up by the algorithm
doesn't work with novels for obvious reasons.

[Anonymous No.23436106]

>>23436039
ChatGPT actually knows its stuff. It helps me touch up my sentences a lot, like improve the structure and word order and makes them better sentences overall.

[Anonymous No.23436112]

>>23436106
you could have chatgpt write the entire synopsis and turn it into 200k words.

[Anonymous No.23436274]

>>23436106
i cannot fucking stand chatGPT's rewrites. it takes my prose and turns it into dollar store slop. it takes everything interesting and unique about my prose and literally just deletes it. single sentences i spend 15+ minutes making sure they're as close to perfectly aesthetic (according to my taste) as possible, completely obliterated. chatGPT is the slopmaster. don't use it.

[Anonymous No.23436297]

>>23436274
This is why ChatJEETPG will never succeed.
I'd rather have shit and mediocre prose, instead of soulless robot gibberish.

[Anonymous No.23436301]

>>23436274
retards who use AI have absolutely no standard and no artistic vision. Truly creative people never use AI because creative people are extremely specific about the way everything looks, reads, sounds. Because they know every tiny part of a canvas or line in a book is important, and is uniquely their own creation.

I feel disgusted having gotten to the point in this jewish dystopia of needing to explain how art works.

[Anonymous No.23436316]

>>23436022
not necessarily. you can read alot of shit and never learn a thing. reading 1 good book helps more than reading 1000 trash books.
Then theres the issue of dissecting the book and figuring out how it makes it good. that requires more effort than youre probably willing to do

[Anonymous No.23436330]

>>23434049
i find it near impossible to work on my stupid ass comic if im not listening to Clarity-era Jimmy Eat World

[Anonymous No.23436332]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x88ccsc0f2M
HOOOOLY SHIT!

[Anonymous No.23436337]

>>23436274
>ask ChatGPT for a rewrite
>it gives you an alternative
>comb through my writing using my own eyes and ears
>fix and change where it helps, leave where it doesn't

[Anonymous No.23436395]

>>23436301
Whatever, luddite. Reading on a screen isn’t real reading, writing on a computer isn’t real writing, same shit from retards like you every time new technology comes around. Go tell time on a sundial.

[Anonymous No.23436403]

>>23436332
>Hello Future Me
The same guy who thinks Avatar the Last Airbender is the peak of writing when it comes to TV shows?

[Anonymous No.23436410]

>>23436395
is this you
>>23435570

[Anonymous No.23436438]

>>23436410
No, this is him >>23435458

[Anonymous No.23436442]

>>23436403
Yes, yes that's the person. He also published his video scripts as books.

[Anonymous No.23436474]

>>23436274
Provide an example. Maybe it's because I created an account and it knows my interests but usually it smooths out the rough edges of my sentences pretty well.

>>23436297
Robots are the future. Don't let them hear you say that.

[Anonymous No.23436493]

>>23436403
Can you name some better shows for the same target audience and format as Avatar?

[Anonymous No.23436496]

>>23436274
>>23436301
Copying from chatGPT is retarded.
Using it as inspiration for little bits and pieces works.

[Anonymous No.23436499]

>>23435592
>what the fuck is it with altered mental states and writing?
When you live your whole life being actively forced to reinterpret and negotiate with reality because your brain doesn't sync up with it properly, you probably get pretty good at creatively expressing your thoughts.

[Anonymous No.23436613]

>/wg/ tells me similes are bad and to avoid them
>reading Illustrated Man rn
>Bradbury uses 3 similes per page, at minimum
>is one of the highest respected authors of all time

[Anonymous No.23436628]

>>23436613
Why would you ever listen to advice from these retards?
You might as well ask the fucking wall what it thinks.

[Anonymous No.23436650]

>>23433303
How is this concept:
>MC realizes they are a popular character in a fictive universe full of tropes
>The Universe itself bends itself over to keep MC alive, looking cool, and his life interesting
e.g.
>if MC tries to kill himself with a gun bullet disapear
>if he tries to stab himself fatally, the wound heals and only gives him a cool car
>if he tries to make something immoral like kicking a puppy the puppy turns into a can

>every day of MC's life plays out like 3-act movie
>they are unable to perform any "off-screen" activies without activity getting "cinematized"
>e.g. every time they go to WC, something bizarre happens like a terrorist attacks them, the ghost appears, or someone hands them MacGuffin

Plot of the story is that MC, is tired of his exhausting existence and just wants to die
He concludes that only way he could die is if he becomes unpopular, the problem is the Universe prevents him from doing anything drastic like using slurs
So, he has to outsmart the universe and subtly make his character unlikeable without the universe noticing

Does this have potential?

[Anonymous No.23436653]

When do you write? How do you balance your hobby of writing with your work and other responsibilities? Have you ever put yourself on a strict schedule?

I've thought of reserving 1 hour or 1 hour and 30 minutes every day (ideally in the morning) to writing, where I do nothing but write with no other distractions in mind. And when the time's over I'm done with the manuscript for the day. There's still stuff like proof-reading, keeping notes and going back on previous chapters, but I could fit that in the reserved time itself.

[Anonymous No.23436655]

>>23436650
I had a thought about something like this. It goes similar, but the guy basically makes a very monkey pawish wish and quickly regrets it.

[Anonymous No.23436657]

>>23436653
I write for 6-8~ hours a day.

[Anonymous No.23436704]

>>23436613
people have don't have real opinions derived from personal experience. they're repeating what a youtuber said, and the youtuber was just paraphrasing what he saw getting upvotes on reddit

[Anonymous No.23436726]

>>23436650
This sounds like a movie.

[Anonymous No.23436745]

>>23436653
>work and other responsibilities
I don't understand.

I can't force when I do it, it just depends on whenever I feel alert enough. It could be 2 p.m., it could be 11 p.m. I just work a little here and there throughout the day usually.

[Anonymous No.23436771]

How many words is a decently long novel for you guys when writing them?

I don't want to write something too long or too short, is there a certain sweet spot for length? I also want to make it a multiple book series.

[Anonymous No.23436792]

>>23436771
Focus on the plot and just use that to pace.

[Anonymous No.23436808]

>>23436771
I hear 80k-100k is the ideal range in terms of what publishers look for. Personally I don't see how a story can persist for that long without resorting to filler. As long as your scenes are well paced and have purpose just go as long as you need to.

[Anonymous No.23436812]

Welp gentlemen, here's a complete novella. I think it's the best thing I've ever written, ands that's after 300,000+ words of unpublished novels, though that may not being saying much. Pastebin will not post it due to "objectionable language" so I had to post it on "ControlC" instead. The internet gets worse everyday.

I would welcome feedback. If you want to skip the first act, which is largely developing the main character and might be a bit slow ctrl f "Chusan" to get close to the second act, but you are probably missing a lot of the the background if you do that.

https://controlc.com/0cea8621

[Anonymous No.23436835]

>>23434028
But he writes genreslop. (Though it's less horror, and more just plain horrible.) I guess that means you think he should khs?

[Anonymous No.23436839]

>>23436812
>Pastebin will not post it due to "objectionable language"
lul what did you say?

[Anonymous No.23436843]

>>23436839
“oriental” is the only thing I can think of. Seriously that’s it.

[Anonymous No.23436846]

>>23435892
ok boomer

[Anonymous No.23436932]

>>23435458
>waah waah you hurt muh precious little feelings
go back to plebbit
also, trolling outside of /b/ is a reportable offense
>>23435463
amen

[Anonymous No.23436947]

>>23436932
>also, trolling outside of /b/ is a reportable offense
Not him, but reporting trolls is for pussies; it's 4chan, and it's a bad sign if the boards have more rules than faceplant or plebbit.

[Anonymous No.23436980]

>>23436947
i started reporting posters after Gardner got me banned for making him look like a putz. captcha: TWAT

[Anonymous No.23437010]

>>23436613
Similes are low tier but okay in moderation. Three per page is overkill though.

[Anonymous No.23437011]

>have severe ADHD
>doctor doesn't realize how debilitating it is to be forced to miss medication for days
>doesn't renew prescription because appointment coming up soon despite explaining that desk job is impossible without medication
>gonna get fired because of this shit
>creativity is overflowing but can't sit down to write for more than 60 seconds at a time

[Anonymous No.23437068]

>>23437011
>gonna get fired because of this shit
If they do you can probably sue over it. You're not allowed to fire someone for a health issue, afaik.

[Anonymous No.23437088]

>>23436395
you are a sucker and you have shit taste

[Anonymous No.23437147]

Do you name your chapters or just stick with numbers?

[Anonymous No.23437212]

My story is a fantasy story where the main antagonist is the MC's brother. She kills him before the story starts, and develops a guilt complex that makes her have an incestual relationship with his ghost. She eventually breaks free from her guilt and kills said ghost.

That said, I'm having trouble having the MC realize her brother is a ghost. Do I go with Magic, so I don't explain shit, or some other foreshadow?.

[Anonymous No.23437238]

>>23437212
Does she not realize it's her brother's ghost because she doesn't know what a ghost is?
Is it because she doesn't realize it's her brother?
Does she realize, but pretend not to?
Is she dreaming?

[Anonymous No.23437267]

>>23437212
How do you kill a ghost?

[Anonymous No.23437313]

>>23436613
You do understand that for something to be considered bad practice, someone, many writers, will have had to do it before, to the point that people got fed up with it? No, of course you don't. You understand nothing.

[Anonymous No.23437320]

>>23437313
If it was bad practice people wouldn't keep copying it to the point that people got fed up with it.

[Anonymous No.23437326]

>>23436726
Not sure if that's a good thing

[Anonymous No.23437327]

>>23437267
Was about to write the same question

[Anonymous No.23437357]

>>23437320
People copy others because they're popular, not because they write well, retard.

[Anonymous No.23437412]

>>23435336
Sounds interesting. I'm writing something like that too, but drawing more heavily on my WW1 Autism and fantasy. Good luck on your writing!

[Anonymous No.23437414]

>>23437238
>>23437238
More of a phantom/eidolon, or summoning of some sort than an actual ghost.

The ghost is summoned through huge bursts of mana from them fucking around with mana-machines when they were younger. So the brother's plot is to destroy the new mana technology like done crazed enviormentalist.

She figures it out later. I'm going to go with Mom telling her.

[Anonymous No.23437418]

What are some clear signs a girl is just using a guy to make herself feel better?
>Doesn't want to be seen in public with him
>Isn't physically affectionate
>Doesn't remember anything about him
>Only talks to him to ask him to psych herself up

[Anonymous No.23437429]

>>23435630
Yes.

[Anonymous No.23437440]

Would you guys purchase the next great chudcore book?
It describes two empires, each of which are (based on) some form of "national socialism", albeit one focuses on the dark and brutal aspects and one focuses on the light and idealic side.

[Anonymous No.23437454]

>>23437440
no chudcore is tiring and I get enough of that shite on here

[Anonymous No.23437458]

>>23437440
I wouldn't buy that, no. Not because it's "chudcore" (if that's even a term), but because direct juxtapositions in a void are lifeless.

[Anonymous No.23437460]

>>23433303
>brother reads my newest chapter faster than usual and gets back to me with a very encouraging comment, saying my writing is professional level
>creative writing teacher singles me and 3 other people in his class out as being good enough to get published
>make it through the preliminaries of a writing contest, make it into a group of 20 chosen from 250 participants that will be whittled down to 3-5 winners

[Anonymous No.23437462]

>>23437454
But its like fun chudcore.
>>23437458
The juxtaposed empires exist in their own cannon, though are reconciled in the epilogue

[Anonymous No.23437468]

>>23437462
If you're writing it because it's fun for you, go for it, but if you're doing it specifically to make 'chudcore' then it's probably worth your time to come up with another story
just remember that if the point of the book is to be a vessel for your political views then you're no better than the sjws who have ruined modern media

[Anonymous No.23437479]

>>23437440
>idealic
I wouldn't buy anything you write

[Anonymous No.23437490]

>>23437267
Vacuum cleaner

[Anonymous No.23437497]

>>23437147
Naming is better but harder. I think it's useful while writing to have something like a name that grabs the essence of each chapter. Keeps you on track.

[Anonymous No.23437506]

>>23437468
I got the idea when I realized I was doing a lot of ideating on brutal regimes (like the Khmer Rouge) in a sort of sadistic fantasy as a way to cope with my own depression. Eventually I realized that all of my brooding had created a somewhat unique, somewhat interesting conceptual society that might be fun to read about in narrative format.
About 2 days later, I realized that such a concept served as an extreme, and though didnt represent my actual ideals, did still fulfill certain fundamental tenets of them. This then presented the idea of a polar alternate, which inspired me to write about the dynamic between the two as a way to elucidate the legitimate ideal (truthfully, some combination of the two).
The book/novella will be split into two parts the "Black Empire" which is the "dark one", and the "White Empire" which is the "light one". Both pursuant to the same ideals although very different in their execution and emphasis.

TL;DR its fun and personal for me, but also servers to progress things I care about in an artistic manner.

>>23437479
I have been awake all night.

[Anonymous No.23437522]

>>23436613
Similes aren't bad inherently but they are often used poorly by amateurs in the form of aimless, superficial window dressing that don't serve any particular artistic purpose beyond "this is what authors do, right?". As a result, many anons in this general associate them with bad prose the same way motorists associate dodge chargers with bad driving. A dodge charger is a perfectly good car, great in skilled hands even, but they are so often driven by inconsiderate retards that you get cautious when you see one.

[Anonymous No.23437523]

>>23437147
I name my chapters first and come up with the content based on the title.

[Anonymous No.23437583]

I don't have the inspiration i had for writing anymore. I am sure it might come back later but I don't like how I feel after seeing what gpt 4o is now capable of.

[Anonymous No.23437597]

>>23433303
In the small town of Bedford Falls, George Bailey sat alone on a bridge, the cold winter air chilling him to the bone. He was on the brink of despair, feeling that his life had been a series of disappointments and missed opportunities. As he stared into the icy waters below, contemplating a final escape from his troubles, a figure appeared beside him.

"Thinking of jumping in?" the stranger asked with a gentle smile.

Startled, George turned to see a kindly old man with twinkling eyes and a worn, but warm, overcoat. "Who are you?" George demanded.

"I'm Clarence," the man replied. "Your guardian angel."

George scoffed. "A guardian angel? Some guardian you've been."

Clarence didn't seem offended. Instead, he offered, "How about we take a walk, George? There's something I need to show you."

Curiosity and a strange sense of calm overtook George, and he agreed. As they walked, Clarence explained how every life touches so many others, often in ways we can't see. "You see, George, you've had a far greater impact than you realize."

With a wave of his hand, Clarence showed George what Bedford Falls would have been like without him. It was a bleak and joyless place, full of despair and corruption. The people George had helped over the years were struggling or lost. His brother, Harry, had died as a child because George wasn't there to save him. Mary, his beloved wife, was alone and unhappy.

"All this because I wasn't born?" George asked in disbelief.

"Yes," Clarence nodded. "You see, George, you've really had a wonderful life. You just needed to see it."

Overwhelmed with emotion, George realized how much he meant to those around him. He begged Clarence to bring him back, to give him another chance.

Suddenly, he was back on the bridge, the snow gently falling around him. His heart swelled with gratitude as he raced home, eager to see his family. Bursting through the front door, he was met with the warm embrace of Mary and the joyful laughter of his children.

That night, as friends and family gathered to celebrate Christmas, George felt a profound sense of love and connection. He looked at the people he cherished and whispered a silent thank you to Clarence, wherever he was.

George Bailey had come to understand the true value of his life and the difference one person can make. He had found his way back from the brink, realizing that indeed, it was a wonderful life.

[Anonymous No.23437627]

>>23437597
>As he stared into the icy waters below, contemplating a final escape from his troubles, a figure appeared beside him.
>"Thinking of jumping in?" the stranger asked with a gentle smile.
This is extremely heavy-handed, detached, authorial, and unmoving. Instead of simply telling your reader that the character is thinking of killing himself, fucking show it. Get into his head and give all the evidence from which a reader can only conclude that he wants to kill himself. It's a good premise but you need to actually write the scene and show all its depth and nuance if you want it to resonate. Don't look away from the scene and summarize it with analytical language. Dive in head-first.

[Anonymous No.23437638]

>>23437597
Isn't this a summary of A Christmas Carol?

[Anonymous No.23437679]

>>23437638
It's A Christmas Story you goof

[Anonymous No.23437696]

There are people out there who create literal art with their words, who can put the reader into the head of their characters and make you feel the emotions they feel.
Here I am reading low effort Japanese crap and that's what I like, and so that's what i write.

[Anonymous No.23437712]

Anyone got a prompt?

[Anonymous No.23437740]

Work has completely consumed life, 12 hour shifts in the sun and 2 hour commute, leaves 2 hours off the clock to get good sleep. Through this struggle will reach higher ground.

[Anonymous No.23437752]

>>23437740
This is why I don't work.

I will never be rich by working, so why bother?

[Anonymous No.23437775]

>>23437752
It's nice to have money. Autismbucks only go so far

[Anonymous No.23437810]

>>23434700

>https://docs.google.com/document/d/12FoS--tLIJJXMXjh6EbO3YUNm7wcBLuAMnSqcYQwGvE

Prose far too purply. Trim the fat a bit. Not every action needs a latinate adjective

[Anonymous No.23437822]

>>23437212
She's fucking her brother, dude.
Obviously, she's had a mental break; why would you need any explanation for this lapse in realization beyond "she's gone mad"?>>23437523
You should be set on fire for naming chapters.
I do some things that are kind of dumb, but not THAT dumb.
I have multiple MCs, but I write in 1st person, and each chapter is numbered and "named" but the name is just the MC so the reader knows who it is.
Also, my chapters are never more than two or three pages. My longest ever was maybe seven?
And all of that being said, I STILL won't name my chapters some stupid inside joke that the reader won't get.

[Anonymous No.23437829]

>>23437810
that's not very useful feedback. it's more a statement of your personal philosophy towards prose stylism than anything actionable. it's more like a call to battle than a suggestion. you can do better than that, fren.

[Anonymous No.23437883]

>>23434907
>/s
>>>reddit is that way

[Anonymous No.23437890]

>>23434965
>sarcasm tag
Out.

[Anonymous No.23437902]

>>23434700
There is a problem with lack of variety in sentence structure (or, more accurately, sentence subject) that slows the descriptive passages down. You could eliminate most of the place setting and just develop a consistent sense of where everything is as you go.

You also have a few instances of incorrect word order or nonstandard choice of words, although the grammar and form are otherwise mostly ok.

[Anonymous No.23437948]

>>23437829
I thought the writing style was great. Putting the reader into the head of your characters so that you can feel their emotions and actions is something I'm not used to.

[Anonymous No.23437950]

>>23437883
>>23437890
Hey newfriend, it's time to change your dirty diaper.

[Anonymous No.23437958]

>>23437950
Shut the fuck up redditor nigger scum.

[Anonymous No.23438008]

>>23434660
smack like drugs?

[Anonymous No.23438012]

>>23435336
Very cool Anon. I love the idea.

[Anonymous No.23438023]

>>23437440
Yes.

[Anonymous No.23438029]

>>23436022
I would say a balance between the two is necessary. You should read for sure but I don't think you need to go crazy with it. Time wise too, maybe just pick up a book for a chapter daily? The important thing is you get ideas, see structure, etc. I think it also matters what you read. If you read slop, your writing is going to likely be similar style/genre. This isn't a bad thing. I would also say you get heavily influenced by the media you consume, for better or worse.

[Anonymous No.23438039]

>>23437583
Capable of what exactly? It only seems faster and slightly more creative. I think it lacks the subtlety that it could have, you still have to steer hard.

[Anonymous No.23438092]

Play, chipmunk, play. The weasel cried.

[Anonymous No.23438245]

If I dont have a prose atm, do I just read more and get better with time ? Or am I already fucked ?

[Anonymous No.23438260]

>>23438245
If you’re not great from the start you may as well not bother. “Practice” is just a loser’s cope to justify wallowing in mediocrity.

[Anonymous No.23438265]

>>23438260
brutal.

[Anonymous No.23438267]

>>23433893
>>23433954
My sincer and honest opinion is that you sound insufferable.

[Anonymous No.23438278]

>>23438260
Its not really practice, just havent read enough in some time. Other forms of media fuck with your brain, reading helps it.

[Anonymous No.23438287]

>>23437506
the ghost of hegel strikes again

[Anonymous No.23438309]

>>23437212
>>23437822
>Obviously, she's had a mental break; why would you need any explanation for this lapse
in realization beyond "she's gone mad?
Probably this. But if you really need anything, add drugs and/or alcohol to the mix. Both being high and drunk may make her not think too much about the ghost, or abstinence causes hallucinations and can make her disoriented enough to not be in touch with reality.

[Anonymous No.23438315]

>>23438267
So I fit right in, then. Cool.

[Anonymous No.23438504]

Everything I write today is garbage AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.23438693]

>>23438504
How about what you wrote yesterday?

[Anonymous No.23438706]

Food anal-ogy:
>what you write today is your meal. it's okay, but not as good as you dreamed of.
>what you wrote is the shit you took. it's done and you shouldn't touch it anymore.
>what you haven't written yet is the platonic ideal of a good meal. you should strive for it

[Anonymous No.23438769]

[Anonymous No.23438783]

Good afternoon, fellow writing sirs. Pleased to telling me prompts for soulful adventures? I am wanting to write serialized webnovel for fun and profit.

[Anonymous No.23438804]

>>23438783
If it's not slopRPG it will not sell, unless you cuck out to the chinks because you're brown.

[Anonymous No.23438838]

>>23438804
Good afternoon, fellow writing sirs. Pleased to telling me prompts for slopRPG? I am wanting to write serialized webnovel for fun and profit.

[Anonymous No.23438923]

>>23438838
Just copy any top rated litRPG slop and tell the robot to rewrite it with different names sir, nobody will notice anyway.

[Anonymous No.23439012]

I've been reading Gravity's Rainbow. How does Pynchon combine words like that?

[Anonymous No.23439018]

If you disable the bodies innate white blood cell limiter and increase the cells by like a millon times per second would they not just turn into a giant tumor?

[Anonymous No.23439023]

>>23439012
talent

[Anonymous No.23439024]

>>23439018
Energy doesn't come for free.

[Anonymous No.23439027]

>>23439024
So instead of causing proto cancer have it just drain their life dry?

[Anonymous No.23439028]

>>23439012
Drugs & education

[Anonymous No.23439030]

>haven't written anything in weeks

[Anonymous No.23439036]

>>23439027
That's what cancer already does. I imagine some form of gigacancer would cause extremely painful tumors that are instantly life-threatening and then physically kill someone by internal bleeding or restricting blood flow or other gnarly biological shit like that.

[Anonymous No.23439041]

>>23439036
Oooooh, alright I got it thank you. I just wanted to double check that it would work so I dont have to have someone tell me it wouldn't.

[Anonymous No.23439081]

>>23439041
Don't let it stop you. Akira didn't care.

[Anonymous No.23439213]

>>23437902
>a few instances of incorrect word order
ESL?

[Anonymous No.23439236]

>>23439024
I do. In fact, I’m gooning right now.

[Anonymous No.23439271]

>>23439213
Some of them resemble characteristically ESL errors, but I suspect they are pesudo-Tolkien literary style choices, as you sometimes see in fantasy works. Whichever it is, they are conspicuous.

[Anonymous No.23439330]

>>23434700
probably one of the best things posted here in recent weeks. is there more?

[Anonymous No.23439412]

>>23433303
Has anyone here tried writing a chapter on paper instead of typing it on a computer? I swear it unlocks a different part of your brain.

[Anonymous No.23439544]

>>23439412
I have depleted two notebooks in the past four months.
When I type, I find myself bactracking to edit or reconsider passages to the point of distraction which cucks my flow and slows everything down. For some reason this isn't a problem on paper.
And something about the tactile engagement really activates my creative almonds. I don't know. Maybe im gay or autistic or something.
It also forces me to do a complete re-write (of sorts), which is very helpful in finding insufficiencies and pacing problems within the text, and is generally beneficial to the quality of the end product.
It also gives me a reason to use my fountain pen.

[Anonymous No.23439573]

>>23439412
I wrote a whole novella more or less longhand and did two drafts on a typewriter. I'm good. Once you can tap into it, you can do it on a tablet with your favorite doujin artist's new drop in splitscreen and not be distracted. It's like riding a unicycle, you're too autistic to forget if you even did it in the first place.

[Anonymous No.23439595]

I think I'm starting to write better but I still suck ass at dialogues. Any exercises/material to write better dialogues?

[Anonymous No.23439698]

>>23439595
There are two, but you're not going to like them.

[Anonymous No.23439729]

>>23439698
I'm all ears

[Anonymous No.23439742]

>>23439729
1. Reading dialogue
2. Talking to people

[Anonymous No.23439755]

>>23439595
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNgilEe9Bk4

[Anonymous No.23439768]

>>23439742
NOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.23439773]

>>23439755
What a dogshit video.
>dialog must do SOMETHING!
No.
Simply conveying the character is enough. It doesn't have to forward the plot or be some retarded back and forth like a good guy vs bad guy cartoon.

[Anonymous No.23439775]

>>23437068
The US has shitty protections for ADHD. Basically no symptom qualifies for accommodation. For example, the cheapest and easiest one is flexible start times, because people with ADHD have time blindless and are often either 30 minutes early or 30 minutes late to everything. Letting people with ADHD start work anywhere in a 2 or 3 hour window and adjust their end time appropriately is simple and effective but it's impossible to make a company implement that even for roles that don't require rigid shifts.

eg: If you work remote as a software programmer, your employer can declare that your hours are 8am-5pm every day and punish you for clocking in at 7:45am or 8:20am if they feel like it even if you can prove that you can't measure time properly and the only way to start work at 8am on the dot every day is to always aim for 7:30am and sometimes waste 30 minutes sitting around before clocking in.

Every ADHD accommodation is a trivial expense to the company for huge benefits to the employee but none of it is required by law.

PS: Didn't get fired but did miss some meetings and an appointment.

[Anonymous No.23439779]

>>23439773
>It doesn't have to forward the plot
Then why have it? It should have at least some basic purpose, otherwise it's just taking up space.

[Anonymous No.23439781]

>>23439779
>Then why have it?
Because readers might enjoy it.
It's fucking idiots that boil art to a math equation that will never write anything good.

[Anonymous No.23439799]

>>23439781
If they enjoy it then its purpose is to entertain. I'm talking fluff conversations where it's just two characters shooting the shit. That's boring and unnecessary.

[Anonymous No.23439803]

>>23439779
>Establishing characters and attitudes
>Highlighting a background element or "apparent" feature
>Directing reader attention or providing perspective
>Breaking up long stretches of observation/action/summary
>Changing the tone of a scene
>Giving readers things to latch onto
>Pacing

[Anonymous No.23439806]

Why are so many of you so focused on litrpg? Did some anon drop in and brag that he was making bank and now a bunch of neets are chasing?

[Anonymous No.23439818]

>>23439806
Konosuba aired season 3 recently so it's the new hot stuff.

[Anonymous No.23439825]

>>23439806
Everyone wants those royalroad patreon bux

[Anonymous No.23439827]

>>23439803
And all of those are furthering an agenda. That dialogue is okay, but like he said in the video, two characters walking up and going "hey what's up?" then "hi" and "what are you doing?" is trash.

[Anonymous No.23439828]

>>23439825
>royalroad patreon bux
I am not aware there any to be made.

[Anonymous No.23439833]

>>23439828
Just have ChatGPT shit out a story and post it. You'll be a thousandaire in no time.

[Anonymous No.23439842]

>>23439828
It isn't ridiculously lucrative or anything, but it's piss-easy and most (some) people here are going to be writing for fun either way. Might as well make some money from it.

[Anonymous No.23439845]

Is there a guide with check boxes for litrpg I can use? I never did one before.

[Anonymous No.23439847]

>>23439845
Awful meandering plot with no goal.
Obligatory harem.
MC has to have sex at least once every 3 6000 words.
MC has to be either the paragon of good or snarky edgelord.
MUST HAVE OP unique powers nobody else has. MC cannot, CANNOT rise to power through long effort and struggle.
Everyone who crosses MC must lose and be humiliated.
Stat screen shown at least once.

Start working on it.

[Anonymous No.23439852]

>>23439806
It looks easy enough, might as well throw my hat into the ring and see if I can score something. If not, oh well. Back to what I usually write (horror and gay romance)

[Anonymous No.23439854]

>>23439852
I hope it involves cute vampires

[Anonymous No.23439861]

>>23439854
How did you know...?

[Anonymous No.23439864]

>>23439852
People on royal road love gay romance (romance which i would call gay), so you're already a step ahead.

[Anonymous No.23439878]

>>23439799
It can still paint a character or environment

[Anonymous No.23439882]

>>23439854
Mine has a cute vampire, however she's a loli and she's not gay.

[Anonymous No.23439886]

>>23439864
all romance is gay

[Anonymous No.23439889]

>>23439847
>Awful meandering plot with no goal.
Generally true unfortunately

>Obligatory harem.
Will instantly kill your story on rr, litrpg is not anime. they hate romance of all forms

>MC has to have sex at least once every 3 6000 words.
Either trolling or a moron

>MC has to be either the paragon of good or snarky edgelord.
Somewhat true, if generalizing

>MUST HAVE OP unique powers nobody else has.
Correct

>MC cannot, CANNOT rise to power through long effort and struggle.
This is just hard to pull off, audience will definitely appreciate it if you can

>Everyone who crosses MC must lose and be humiliated.
This is a xianxia trope, only half true in litrpg

>Stat screen shown at least once.
one of the top 3 patreons in litrpg literally doesn't use stats


Overall, you are probably a troll, if not, just an idiot who likes to speak authoritatively about things you are clueless on

[Anonymous No.23439901]

>>23439889
>one of the top 3 patreons in litrpg literally doesn't use stats
It can't be an rpg if it doesn't use stats

[Anonymous No.23439906]

>>23439901
your definitons don't matter, only the fans of the genre. who definitely call the wandering inn a litrpg

[Anonymous No.23439913]

>>23439889
>Overall, you are probably a troll, if not, just an idiot who likes to speak authoritatively about things you are clueless on
Sorry but I'm literally writing a litRPG.

[Anonymous No.23439917]

>>23439913
wow it's a pretty shit one then.
link, or you're just the seething pseud shitting up threads recently. either way, opinion disregarded

[Anonymous No.23439919]

>>23439917
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/76148/revenge-of-the-slop-king-litrpg-cheat-power-harem

>wow it's a pretty shit one then.
Among the worst!

[Anonymous No.23439921]

>>23439919
yikes. why are you giving advice anon? you clearly don't know the genre

[Anonymous No.23439924]

>>23439921
Do you?

[Anonymous No.23439925]

>>23439924
yes.

[Anonymous No.23439926]

>>23437638
>>23437679
You people are dumber than rocks. It's a summary of "It's A Wonderful Life" starring Jimmy Stewart. "A Christmas Carol" is Dickens, "A Christmas Story" is the one with "you'll shoot your eye out". The absolute state of 4chan

[Anonymous No.23439927]

>>23439925
Post your work then, the holy grail of litRPG.

[Anonymous No.23439928]

>>23439927
I actually have an audience and thus a reason not to associate with 4chan, so no
But everything I've said is easily verifiable. Just go look at what's on Popular This Week and what sells most on Amazon BSR lists

[Anonymous No.23439931]

>>23439928
I have an audience too. I'll just assume you are not lying on the internet, because nobody would do that.

[Anonymous No.23439933]

>>23439931
Just gloss over the whole "you can go verify yourself" part, sure

[Anonymous No.23439935]

>>23439933
I believe you, anon. You must be a seasoned litRPG expert, however, I have an audience regardless of committing the cardinal litRPG sins.

[Anonymous No.23439941]

>>23439935
you can write whatever you want King, but the advice you're giving is the opposite of how to make a popular litrpg
as 100 followers after so many chapters would indicate, lol

[Anonymous No.23439942]

>>23439940
>>23439940
>>23439940

[Anonymous No.23439944]

>>23439919
the fuck is this shit
you tryna to be japanese nigga?
yellow nigga??
here in america town we use " and " and occasionally ' and '
not 「 and 」because they fucks with our shit, nigga!!
this shit is repulsive nigga!!

[Anonymous No.23439946]

>>23439944
>this shit is repulsive nigga!!
Thank you, your heinous. It means a lot to me.

[Anonymous No.23440765]

>modern sci-fi is absolute generic garbage and feels like it's beating you over the head with modern day political moralising
>start to build my own near future solar system setting, laying down plotlines and such
>feel like I have something pretty cool in the works
>several chapters in
>realise its pretty much a futile effort because no publisher will pick up my work unless I make the most politically safe of settings and never touch on any political, racial, sexual issues
>only other option is to self publish which is a crapshoot and basically guaranteed waste of time or to release as webnovels and the audience for those is only interested in generic slop

All feels so pointless sometimes bros. I don't even want to write about chud shit but it just seems impossible to avoid anything that will get you shitcanned.