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>> No.23409209

>>23409206
No one understands philosophy

>> No.23409210
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23409210

I would unironically kill for a cute gf that read philosophie

>> No.23409218

Back in college I had this kraut professor lady who taught a class exclusively on Kant, she seemed pretty competent.

>> No.23409220

>>23409210
Same actually

>> No.23409223

>>23409206
It’s so funny how after some time of actual discussion/interest there’s always a girl posing with the *latest thing* on tik tok farming attention while trying to gatekeep. Vapid whores are so transparent.

>> No.23409227

>>23409223
She may also be interested in it and reading it for that reason

>> No.23409229

>>23409209
but ESPECIALLY not women
the only thing they understand is cooking manuals and make up tutorials or their boyfriend/fathers opinions on philosophy at best

>> No.23409232

>>23409206
God I want to stuur a cadeau to her so bad bros

>> No.23409235 [SPOILER] 

>>23409227
She's interested in looking like an intellectual with dark academia style
I want to skin these hoes alive. The only way you should be allowed to touch philosophy books is if you have at least read all the Greek works twice over with annotations

>> No.23409245

>>23409209
The only way you would know that is if you understood it, in which case you wouldn't say it.

>> No.23409256

>>23409235
But is any of that true though

>> No.23409261

>>23409245
Who understands philosophy?

>> No.23409265

>>23409261
Me.

>> No.23409274

>>23409265
Damn, G.

>> No.23409278

The only women who understand philosophy are autists with overly masculine minds, which is why they do so much of that gender war shit.
The only exception I've come across is Elizabeth of Bohemia.

>> No.23409279

90% of the dudes here have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to philosophy and especially Nietzsche

>> No.23409280
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23409280

stupid fucking whore

>> No.23409282

>>23409280
I immediately disregard the opinion of anyone who uses the word "pretentious"

>> No.23409284

>whore
>horse girl
>"best selling author"
>le dark academia xDDD
dumb slut

>> No.23409285

>>23409280
The faggots who keep calling her a whore are definitely sexless incels who are whipping out their cocks and stroking them to this woman

>> No.23409288
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23409288

this girl has never faced a single hardship in her life

>> No.23409289

>>23409288
Yes, let's begin harrassing this woman who dared to (gasp!) read a book, fellow /lit/cels

>> No.23409290

This is a weird question. Anyone who reads philosophy and takes the time to educate themselves about it is capable of understanding it (to the extent that anyone can truly claim to understand philosophy). Estrogen does not inhibit this process.

>> No.23409293

>>23409288
Thats a good thing when it comes to woman. You guys are so insecure

>> No.23409292

>>23409206
women are evil mutants

>> No.23409301

https://www.amazon.com/I-Fell-Love-Hope-Novel/dp/1668034530
here's her book, have fun

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23409307

it's already over for u niggas

>> No.23409311

>>23409227
Nah she’s interested in attention and social media currency. Philosophy is just an accessory for these types, just a different shade of handbag. They’re not truth seekers.

>> No.23409319
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23409319

based schope still mogging whores 250 years later

>> No.23409326

>>23409311
So pretty much like a solid portion of /lit/…something about stones and glass houses

>> No.23409327

>>23409311
If you think philosophy is truth seeking, I would say you are mistaken fren. I believe reading more philosophy will get you out of this mindset though. Essentialization is antithetical to serious inquiry.

>> No.23409328

>>23409311
Is philosophy about speaking the truth? In all my years reading it, I've found only two kinds of philosophizing: a person saying what they want to be true, whether admittedly, or, attributing it to some kind of 'innate law;' or, someone trying to lay out what they see descriptive, but failing, as this is impossible.
I'm not saying it has no value, but is its value "truth?" That, I am not so sure of.

>> No.23409332

>>23409328
Descriptively*

>> No.23409341

>>23409206
I have only read Beyond Good and Evil and Gay Science, but doesn't Thus Spoke Zarathustra not actually mention any other philosophers? It's a fictional allegory right? Doesn't almost every post-Plato philosophy comment on other philosophers? And she chose the one book that probably doesn't even mention other philosophers?

>> No.23409349

>>23409341
Yeah, that's true and sort of a giveaway. Zarathustra doesn't mention any other philosophers, IIRC. It also sucks btw. Nietzsche was a poor fiction writer. It's a clumsy book.

>> No.23409353

>>23409328
Well historically it has been about seeking an Absolute Truth. I don't think so anymore, but I'd still think it is about seeking "relative" truths, or trying to find meaningful and productive ways to interpret our existence. I feel like that's the sort of Nietzschean ideal of philosophy now (someone said it before him surely but anyway): that truth was a fiction that never existed in the first place and now we should base our philosophy on what is most beneficial to humanity or individuals.

>> No.23409354

>>23409280
Women really like to post about how much they read instead of just reading

>> No.23409358

>>23409326
Keep telling yourself that. It’s anonymous for a reason.
>>23409327
It is, whether there is truth there or what value truth has itself is not the point.

>> No.23409363

>>23409227
Is that why she has makeup and filters and posed just right?

>> No.23409364

>>23409206
Women in general don't. But there are specific women that can understand it.

>> No.23409368

>>23409364
You are very silly.

>> No.23409379

>>23409353
Well, this is what I've come to, for whatever it is worth: true "truth," rests in ideas like Taoism, nihilism, sufiism, all types of mysticisms, those are the proper realm of proper "truth." They all admit of the Absolute you speak about, and they all draw the same conclusion: the Absolute is perfect, unadulterated, pure "nothing." I do not mean empty space, but a lack of space, infinity itself, and thus, nothing at all. The purest idea of "God" is a Void that contains everything within itself, a nonpoint at which all points intersect. So to me, whenever a philosopher speaks about truth, and goes beyond this description in any way, he or she has already entered the land of idiocy.
But idiocy is not valueless; Nietzsche had it right when he asked what the value of truth is, because he was already wise enough to recognize that the truth is a void. What philosophers do, often like idiots, is put out new models and ideas with which to live by, to multiply the different "kinds" of life that can be expressed according to human freewill. None of that is an issue and I quite enjoy reading the perspectives of these people, I just wish after so many centuries, they'd finally recognize that perspective is all any of it is. Got nothing to do with truth, everything to do with falsifying, deluding, delaying the truth, because in truth, we prefer all kinds of illusions, and we need them to live.

>> No.23409387

>>23409341
She's "reading" the first few pages of Zarathustra in that reel, literally the fucking overview and foreword. Women need to shut the fuck up

>> No.23409391

>>23409368
Troon

>> No.23409392

>>23409391
Even sillier.

>> No.23409398

There is no hope for the future and also no hope for the future of intellectual discourse (to be specific) when TikTok/social media plays a part.

What happens here is the reduction of life's greatest pleasure - literature and/or the pursuit of "knowledge" (note the quotation marks ...) - into a marketable commodity that can be "liked" and "shared" as a way of signaling intellectualism / culture sophistication (i.e. BookTok and turning the "love" of reading into a marketable identity that can be leveraged to form brand partnerships and sell books).

What actual discourse is actually going on here?

>>23409227 is correct; philosophy...literature...r0SSI@n literature. It's just another shade of handbag to these ladies. Generally speaking, I do not trust ANYBODY who posts selfies of their ass on social media). We are so fucked

>> No.23409402

>>23409290
Estrogen is the retardation whoremoan
Prenatal estrogen leads to autism/systemic thinking. estrogen leads to empathic thinking. That means sucking the dick of people that read Nietzsche and then copying their sentiments.

>> No.23409403

>>23409379
Could you elaborate on the Taoism reference? They have their own ideas of right and wrong, good and evil, how one ought to act (i.e. in accordance with the Tao). It seems kind of contradictory to relativism... I'm not sure if you could say that the Tao is "nothing" because Laozi and Zhuangzi always seemed hesitant to make truth claims about the Tao. I'm not really an expert on either book though.

>> No.23409405

>>23409402
Citation needed

>> No.23409407

>>23409301
Oh God oh Fuck

>> No.23409413

You will also notice: to whatever degree a philosophy claims truth, it also claims the right to tyrannize. In political theoretics, this is seen most starkly. Some systems try to hide it to varying degrees; communism claims universal brotherhood while being rooted in despotic centralization, democracy claims diffused power while being subject to oligarchial control; but some admit of it very honestly, like fascism, absolute dictatorships, these systems tell their audience outright that the purpose is tyrannical control.
In more "academic" philosophy, the same apportioning of degree is found. The continentals dispense with claiming truth altogether, which unshackles them from the Game; they are free to say simply, "this is my perspective, perhaps it could be of some resonant value." I like their spirit. The more you delve into analytics, especially once you get into philosophies of science, the more all-encompassing systems of tyranny you see. For the entirety of the 20th century, materialist logic claimed a relationship with "truth" so deep, that it laid siege upon every other form of perspective with absolutely barbaric gall, and it actually won for a long time -- it even killed God. And that's to say nothing of pure Mathematics; those who play with numbers are making some of the strongest claims possible to truth. And now we live in a world that is, quite literally, being enslaved by a tyranny of numbers-- digitization.
The more it claims to know the truth, the more you can be rest assured that it knows absolutely nothing about it; and that it's coming after (you).

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>>23409398
You should read the comments on her reel
I may be an unloveable -oomer but I at least dont pretend to understand Nietzsche only to shit on his legacy by comparing them to ... Diss tracks??

>> No.23409419

>>23409206
In college I matched on Tinder with a cute girl studying philosophy, and the idea of discussing philosophy with her was very hot.

Fast forward several years, I still remember her name and look her up. She got her PhD in philosophy with a concentration in veganism and feminist philosophy. Crisis averted

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23409424

>>23409405
Your whore mother's used up asshole is my citation

>> No.23409425

>>23409402
I think the reason I am autistic is actually because I was hypervirile in the womb. Autism actually the most extreme form of masculinity; this is scientifically backed.

>> No.23409426

>>23409398
>I do not trust ANYBODY who posts selfies of their ass on social media
I always feel like a pariah for having this opinion, yet it seems so obviously sensible and yet so contrary to mainstream values.

There could be exceptions, of course, but it just makes me think they have an underdeveloped intellect/personality (not that anybody ever really seems that smart now, but I mean relatively speaking)

>> No.23409428

>>23409419
You should knock her up and promise to be there for her and then when she legally can't abort anymore, disappear from her life completely.

>> No.23409429

>>23409403
Well, your observation is sort of astute. Nothing is my stand-in for what "it" is, they used the word Tao; but the very first words of the Tao Te Ching are, if it is the Tao that can be spoken, it is not the true Tao; the Tao which can be named is not the true Tao.
So even to say "nothing" is too much. But think about the world as a content of ideas. No picture no ideas. Or rather, all ideas represented at once and thus cumulatively representing no one idea, as an atomism. Again, it's literally impossible to put it into words by definition, but these are as close as one can get. Mystics used chanting and symbols for a reason. To grab at the truth is to reach for the ineffable, unspeakable, and mostly, the unknowable.

>> No.23409431

>>23409402
>autism/systemic thinking.
Don't the most influential philosophers fit this bill? Trans identity isn't valid at all but this is just a bad argument

>> No.23409435

>>23409429
Now picture no ideas*

>> No.23409436

>>23409417
Dying to bekijk the 4 more antwoorden

>> No.23409438

>>23409417
I am not too worried about Nietzsche's legacy. After all, I am posting about nietzsche on social media as well. In fact, it's the ubermensch's job to post, and post as often as possible, to devote all energy to posting. A 100% flow of pure movement. High speed data connection.

>> No.23409440

>>23409349
TSZ is structured musically in the original German and it's intended to imitate the Bible. It's also very easy to read and is ton of beautiful prose.

>> No.23409441

>>23409438
Digitization

>> No.23409442

>>23409419
I wish that was my girlfriend

>> No.23409445

>>23409440
It's pretty bad. Idk about the original German, I can't read German. It's got a few nice spots but it was pretty corny imo. I prefer his aphoristic books. I don't think he succeeded in imitating the Bible and I think "a ton of beautiful prose" is an overstatement, but that's merely my opinion. It doesn't mean anything.

>> No.23409452

>>23409413
Doesn't the "tyranny of numbers" entirely depend on whether someone agrees that numbers and mathematics are inherent to reality or merely a means of interpreting reality?

In all fairness, I would guess the average person would say they are inherent and move on with their lives. I don't know what the "intellectual" consensus is on that.

I would agree though that materialist logic has been quite "tyrannic" in terms of ruining spirituality and notions of free will, though I'm curious if you have a refutation for it? I feel like most people would be unsatisfied with just hearing "Well materialist logic is just another interpretation of reality" when considering how seemingly objective it is in terms of predicting and modeling physical reality, though I guess that's your whole point of why it's so tyrannic

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23409454

>>23409436
only for you my love

>> No.23409462

>>23409417
They are both wrong? Camus seemed to carry on and built upon Nietzsche's ideas... neither rivals nor unrelated...

>> No.23409464

>>23409462
Camus was a faggot who challenged no ideas. He's a glorified novelist.

>> No.23409469

>>23409454
jesus fucking christ that stupid julien bitch

>> No.23409471

>>23409452
I do not necessarily have a refutation. Quantum physics seems to be a sort of "refutation," although, it still relies heavily in numbers, in that it relies upon the validity of science. It's implications, though, reveal something strictly non-material and non-numerical in the way reality expresses itself and evolves. Consciousness is no longer a happy (or tragic) accident, and is once again included as legitimate in the toolkit of reality-making and reality-intepreting. It may even be primary. But it's not for me to say, humanity will push it along as it always does, and some will fight it as they always do, but I do see digitization as the peak of the materialist paradigm, and when paradigms end, they usually go out with quite a bang.
Don't read me as hating the numerical paradigm or something. I am trying to see things as dispassionately as I can; some idea always tyrannizes in every era. But if I have to admit of a bias, it appears to me that humanity can no longer bear this tyrant, we have outgrown it and need a new one. That seems to be readily apparent, judging by the state of things and the current trajectory if things don't shift.

>> No.23409474

>>23409445
I agree. I like most of his work but Zarathustra was kind of boring and way to "I know I am the best artist ever" for me

>> No.23409475

>>23409454
>Nietzsche is a nihilist
so misleading. I mean technically Camus and Nietzsche are both nihilists but nihilists that say we need to create meaning... please stop posting this shit because you are raising my cortisol levels

>> No.23409484

>>23409452
Also;
>how seemingly objective it is in terms of predicting and modeling physical reality
Does it predict and model it, or through the act of modeling it and predicting it, does it make it more "model-able" and predictable?
If a man is tortured every day of his life and becomes weak, and less resistant toward his daily torture, is that man weak, is torture creating something more torturable? Systems of knowledge correlate to the systems of power they're bound up in, and when knowledge is used,nit creates its necessary exponents in terms of relations of power. Every axiom is a loaded gun that executes whatever it sees, it seeks to kill those it cannot compute, and to make more computable everything else, according to its linguistic programming. Like a Dell, but more lethal and unforgiving.

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23409498

>make a thread on a book
>7 replies and the thread dies

>make a thread with a twitter pic of a woman where she mentions reading
>thread hits bump limit

Some of you deserve this place

>> No.23409520

>>23409498
yeah but there was some good epistemology convo in here beyond woman bashing but anyway you're still right and I'm guilty

>> No.23409529

>>23409498
>inflammatory topic receives lots of replies
First day here?

>> No.23409542

>>23409206
Philosophy is the study of truth and is basically the opposite of a woman.

>> No.23409585

>>23409227
Only thing she is interested in is making caramel babies

>> No.23409624

I'm really happy I quit my unhealthy hobby of reading philosophy. It's like astrology or pseudoscience.

>> No.23409764

How do I use my literary knowledge to talk to women?

>> No.23409777

>>23409417
Thanks for sharing. I don't understand Nietzche or philosophy very well either, but I'm sure Nietzche is rolling over in his grave right now -

I don't know the scholary name of this phenomenon (lmao) but I'm going to call it the "School of Life-arization" of Philosophy, where people try to "philosophize" aspects of pop culture that are utterly devoid of meaning (or a symptom of societal decay)

For example, someone writing their dissertation on Cardi B/Nicki Minaj and Phenomenology or why there are books such as "Twilight and Philosophy" or "Attach on Titan and Ethics" or smthg like that without a single degree of awareness of the ephemerality of such a topic.

I suppose it has to do with the flattening of the world/culture (not in some "The World is Flat due to globalization" kind of way), but rather (this is pure conjecture) perhaps due to some people's inability to distinguish between the profound and the insipid - not that I'm a New Yorker reading elite scumbag who wipes my ass with copies of the New York Review of Times or anything - which results in (excuse my French) fucking morons brining Kendrick and Drake into a conversation about 2 famous 19th/20th century philosophers.

My brain is fried - I don't really believe in literature or its beauty or transcendent power. But it's a nice illusion for me to have. Without it, life would be ever the more dreary.

>>23409454
Smiths reference?

>>23409464
He also cheated on his wife. Boo (yeah I'm a moralist)

>>23409426
To me, it signals promiscuity (sorry for stating the obvious), narcissism, etc. I think a potential reason why you feel like a pariah for having such values is due to mainstream media SHOVING in our faces constant messages of sex positivity, self-expression, hyper-individualism (not saying we should live in a hyper-comformist society tho), but IF promiscious girls really believed that endless seggs could set them free, then why is it that they feel emotionally connected to their hookup partners after the one-night stand? Why is it that once they turn 30 and the biological clock starts ticking in full motion, they start craving children, domestic chores, etc. Idk.
Btw I apply the same logic towards guys. Its not a gender-specific thing.

>> No.23409924

>>23409764
By having the following:
physical looks, fashion sense, charisma, money, social status, interests (insert reading here), independence, assertiveness
If you have these to a reasonable degree being a reader will make you look very attractive, but with that alone you will probably not get anywhere.

>> No.23409978

>>23409464
He challenged your entire conception of philosophy. It's why you fail to even realize you have been challenged.

>> No.23409997

They have the capacity to understand it yes. It might be rare but its rare for men to understand it as well

>> No.23410039

>>23409206
>Do women
Let me stop you there. Women lack ontic status, and thus cannot have phenomenological appearances. Women *aren't*. Therefore women, not being, are a category error in relation to philosophy.

There are no girls.

>> No.23410059

>>23409341
>Doesn't almost every post-Plato philosophy comment on other philosophers?

Why do you say "post-Plato" as if Plato wasn't commenting on the pre-Socratics?

>> No.23410321

>>23410059
Mostly because I've read like 6 or so dialogues and I don't think they explicitly reference other philosophers. I'm sure he is building off of the knowledge of the pre-Socratics and the questions they asked, but in the context of the woman in OP's pic's caption it would just be wrong because he never references others (or at least not often)

>> No.23410346

>>23409210
>>23409220
If she's cute AND reads philosophy she's 100% a psychopath larper

>> No.23410349

>>23409282
that seems a little pretentious

>> No.23410350

>>23409285
I've had sex and she looks boring. She's a whore.

>> No.23410354

>>23409289
Why is it such a huge accomplishment when a woman reads a book?

>> No.23410387

>>23409210
>>23409220
Can you prove that you can actually kill someone?

>> No.23410400

>>23409293
Ideally you want a woman who has struggled in good ways. One who has survived economic hardship, knows of frugality, humility, work and virtue. (Yes I am aware some women come out of poverty and become super materialistic and egotistical but that's not who I'm talking about here). Obviously the ones who have been raped and beaten and heartbroken are going to be bad.

>> No.23410430

>>23409498
>Lowest common denominator conversation gets the most amount of participation
Water is wet. Even assuming that the majority of /lit/ actually reads, many people become incapable of having a meaningful conversation about a book even months after reading it. I would like it if mods moderated some of the lower quality threads but I'm not surprised that these threads based on more general ideas are more popular.

>> No.23410450

Down with all forms of social media including this wretched website!

>> No.23410453

>>23409210
Unless she’s extremely intelligent, it just seems annoying. I don’t talk about philosophy with people because most of them think it’s the type of shit you come up with while high. Same reason most scientists I know don’t talk about it with their family, because you quickly realize how retarded and schizo most people thoughts about it really are.

>> No.23410454

>>23410450
place*

>> No.23410456

>>23409279
Nah. They do. Unless it’s people trying to refute him. They’re too lost in the cope to actually say anything decent of which there is plenty to say.

>> No.23410460

>>23409280
Makes me want to do things

>> No.23410462

>>23409288
No one who “realizes” they had a bad childhood had a bad childhood. Unless you needed a way to post about it on the internet for sympathy points without just posting “I had a bad childhood. Gimme sympathy.”

>> No.23410465

This thread has convinced me to kill myself. Thank you OP.

>> No.23410481

>>23409209
That's a feature, not a bug.

>> No.23410497

>>23410465
The thread should convince you of the opposite. I see that my life is worth more because of this thread.

>> No.23410514

DR>>23409319
You're trying too hard

>> No.23410515

>>23409327
>philosophy isn't truth seeking
Idiot

>> No.23410585

>>23410515
See
>>23409379
>>23409413

>> No.23411245

>>23410514
im not a doctor

>> No.23411258

>>23409210
It would be nice to have a gf that is that philosophically literate and can have occasional shallow conversations on the topic but a philosopher gf or worse, an intellectual gf would unironically be hell. You basically want her to be interested but not opinionated.

>> No.23411266

>>23410453
They don’t realize that this shit is about image and social prestige for women, even for highly intelligent women. They will never take it as seriously as you and if they do, it will just be really shallow and obnoxious.

>> No.23411270

>>23409206
i want her to rim my brown asshole

>> No.23411291

>>23409206
Nope

>> No.23411420

>>23409398
>muh commoditization
wait til this guy finds out what the Books Received pages at the back of every academic journal is all about

>> No.23411434

>>23409206
"Philosophy" for people like her and this board is just an excuse for you guys to act like stupid fucking douchebags that think reading some homeless guys rambling from thousands of years ago makes you better than anyone else. All it does is make you an obnoxious faggot because all philosophy does is explain shit everybody already knows and can see for them-fucking-selves in an overly prose and retarded way.

>> No.23411453

>>23409462
The actual dis track is Schopenhauer on Hegel

>> No.23411454

>>23409223
Women take hardcore anabolic hormones and compete in gay weighlifting no one watches just to get closer to men who they respect or desire in some way.
At any given time every unmarried and chidless woman is explicitly, or implicitly (but obviously) trying her hard to all but get physically in the way of a group of men who are busy doing something else and not thinking about her at all.

>> No.23411462

>>23409307
That's incel thought process. Any bitch showing off like this is gonna pivot to another cock sooner than later.
Look at her fuckin face is that the expression of a woman who's satisfied and wants to stay in one place? Cause to me it looks unsure and waiting for feedback to decide what to do next.

>> No.23411465

>>23409529
You never get used to it.

>> No.23411496

>>23409454
>mihi reeeeeing because he’s getting called out left and right
>probably jacking it to julien and got embarrassed
The internet really just shouldn’t have been given to that part of the world, I’ve never seen it go well.

>> No.23411538

>>23409354
Which is totally different from what you (we) are doing here on /lit/ right anon? Right?

>> No.23411539 [DELETED] 

Yes, and smart women are more valuable than dumb men

>> No.23411551 [DELETED] 

They understand it but it has no significance for them

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>>23409206
Incel thread
go back

>> No.23411566

>>23409209
Whats there to understand? It's subjective perspectives filtered by consensus. Wow, so deep.

>> No.23411568

>>23409402
completely true
modern estrogen levels are creating hyper-femininity, aka BPD, NPD, histrionic bullshit women
BUT these personality disorders have bad connotations so the powers that be have decided to rebrand prenatal hyper-estrogenization as “autism” and as a part of the “autistic spectrum”.
narcissism is the inability to not take things personally. BPD is just another side of the Narcissistic coin, conflating other’s perception of you with your self concept.

>> No.23411569

>>23411566
>Whats there to understand? It's subjective perspectives filtered by consensus. Wow, so deep.
Is that a true statement?

>> No.23411591

>>23411561
>dork as dweebs
what an embarassing attempt at an insult, nigger

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>>23409498
new here?

>> No.23411599

>>23411569
Depends on the consensus of this perspective, obviously. It's a dps check.

>> No.23411644

>>23409777
It's simply the democratizing, the leveling, the egalitarian principle led to its natural conclusion: there is no high and low culture, no sacred and profane, everything is equal. Metaphysics and rap music are equally valid topics of study with equal amounts of depth. Hence, the phenomenon you describe, "poptimism" in popular music, the demonization of anything requiring above a sixth grade reading level as "pretentious" or "elitist", and so on.

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>>23409288
I can help her with that

>> No.23411978

>>23409206
I've met some smart girls who actually read with purpose but this chick gives me the impression of a larper who wants to be acknowledged more than anything

>> No.23411990

A woman reading philosophy is like a dog standing on its hind legs: if you see it, you should kick them down the stairs for violating the natural order

>> No.23411999

So you judge a young woman based on a single picture and you call yourselves philosophers?

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>>23411999
>he doesn't know that the picture itself isn't the data, but rather contains many useful points of data, making a valid inductive inference perfectly possible

>> No.23412025

>>23409206
Actual philosopher here.
Yes, women can understand philosophy and those women are called “good mothers and housewives”

>> No.23412101

>Nietzsche
>philosophy
Choose only one, lmao.

>> No.23412121

>>23411538
Well if you're not actually reading then yeah, it's pretty much the same as her.

The girls that don't read post about it on their socials to get attention. The boys that don't read post here which is the equivalent of jerking off in front of a mirror.

It's pretty easy to discern who actually reads here on lit and when it shows those threads are usually gold

>> No.23412459

>>23410321
>I don't think they explicitly reference other philosophers

One of Plato's dialogues is titled "Parmenides".

>> No.23412482

>>23409209
only for Plato cucks and other metaphysicshizos aka religious lunatics

>> No.23412546

>>23409206
They make better (christian) mystics than philosophers.

>> No.23412582

>>23409206
in short: no
to elaborate: they live as egoists from birth and never even considered that there would be anything outside of themselves that would be worthy of discovery, pondering, justifying or striving for
for women they are default mode involuntary egoists that do not see any value in following any form of ideals, values or rules unless they're strictly and brutally monitored and punished
just look at how they turn out in areas where feminism has given them agency, they become hedonists first and involuntary egoists second
to them things are emotions, how do i feel about this is the deepest thought a woman has had, their thinking is centered around emotional responses, emotional thinking and emotional everything
why does woman want to be rich? it makes them feel free, it makes them feel powerful, it makes them feel better than others
why does a woman want to marry a hot man of status, wealth and power? it makes them feel desired, it makes them feel better than their competition, the man at the top of the hierarchy (which she does not understand apart from instincts that equate self-confidence = good) is the best man that she wants (or a con artist, both are good because they both make you feel the same)

to recap their philosophy is that of hedonism and involuntary egoism, anything they adopt on top of that is forced on them, the only reason they would dabble onto read any other philosophy which they find pointless pissing contest is to once again feel better than others (protip this is why majority of men go to philosophy and literature as well)
philosophy is a method of status elevation and one ups manship to them, it doesn't matter what the philosophy can teach them or any truths they might find because of it, wisdom is equally as worthless because they're already hedonistic egoists by nature, they have no need for any values or discoveries as long as they feel good
>>23409209
name a philosophy / philosopher and ill dumb it down to such a state that even you can grasp it

>> No.23412615

here's the basic built in philosophy of women dumbed down as their goals
>feel good all the time
achieve the state of feeling good, ataraxia kind of searched for the same end goal so we will give them a pass
>find a mate
be it a dyke or a hunk they want to find a mate, to a woman this is a vital part of life, to not have a mate is a disaster, they cannot and i cannot stress this enough CANNOT function without distress if they're single for too long, this will erode all of their self confidence, give them mental illness and may even lead to suicide, they MUST have a mate or their self worth and entire world view collapses
>get things
they must have things, stupid things, knick knacks, collectibles, house hold items, cars, shoes, clothes, make up, scented shampoos, more knick knacks, gifts, dolls, ugly art, anything and everything, woman needs small pillows, colorful crap and all in between, they must have bunch of crap to make their home "unique" while ironically becoming the same kind of clusterfuck of trinkets that would put a crow to shame, women are mega consumers of all crap and they must have it
>delicious food
no matter what their personal preference for delicious food, snacks etc is they must have it, the only reason they would ever hold back is to be in good enough shape to upgrade their mate to a 2.0 version who is more self confident, good looking, wealthier, buff or whatever she's looking to upgrade, if she does not absolutely have to she will bloat into a abomination on the couch and grunt orders to have her gullet filled with whatever shit she craves
apart from that all she needs is a bunch of other fat hens to show her things to and to gorge herself with, to compare their mates with and to be obnoxious loud chickens with, friendship between straight women does not exist they only gather together to give each other underhanded compliments and to compare what they have going on in their lives

if a woman would deviate from this mindset she would have had to live in some near death experience inducing environment, been high on mind altering drugs enough or be a dyke, even autism doesn't save them from this default mindset

>> No.23412623

>>23409209
fpbp

>> No.23412628

>>23412623
name a single philosophy or philosopher and i will dumb it down to the point that any retard can "get it"

>> No.23412648

>>23409429
Plotinus, is that you?

>> No.23412653

>>23412628
Kant. And you can't just say "schizo shit"

>> No.23412658

west:
>stoicism
can you control it? then do
can't control it? then control emotions that it causes in you
get those shoulders big to carry the shit of the world
>hedonism
i wanna feel good, i don't wanna feel bad
>pyrrhonism
are you sure about that? no really, are you 100% sure?
>absurdism
life is weird but if you embrace that it is you'll have a fun time de yah
>stirnerian egoism
you know those values, ideals and shit you hold? here's why they're bullshit and why you don't need them
there's two kinds of people in this world, voluntary and involuntary egoists, figure out which you are and are going to be

east
>buddhism/hinduism/every vedic rooted religion / philosophy in a nutshell
lifes a bit shit and if you think that shit will continue forever it's a nightmare, follow these religion specific guidelines to stop repeating the miserable life
>>23412653
>emmanuel kant
easy peasy, "would you like to live in a world where everyone did that? because that's what you're advocating by doing that"
that's literally the skinny of his categorical imperative, be more specific on which part of him you want interpreted

>> No.23412695

>>23409445
>>23409474
Filtered, in a fundamental way

>> No.23412712

>>23412695
>filtered from zarathustra
what's there to be filtered about? the fucking hack plagiarized max stirner and slapped a "and creates new values to impose on others" on top of it and called it his own, he hid this by using some poetic waxing and waning bullshit writing style that confused the hell out of a lot of people but when you finally peel the sticker off you find out "made by max stirner" logo at the bottom and all the pieces click
nietzsche was a fucking retard who was only good at hiding that fact in social circles by shaming people who tried to ask him to clarify what the fuck he was smoking and why the hell would anyone write like that, he was even accused of plagiarizing stirner and he just refused to comment
read max stirner - the ego and its properties/ its own and tell me you don't see it

there is no "filtering" from nietzsche, there is just the intentional confusion on what the fuck the dude was on about because of the way he wrote it, the theme isn't that hard to grasp if your intention is to teach that to people (just look at how eloquently stirner did it), if you know what to look for your mind will be blown at what a shameless hack nietzsche was

>> No.23412721

>>23412628
Ficino

>> No.23412726

>>23412721
who the fuck is that?

>> No.23412732

>some christian theologian platonist faggot
no wonder i never read him

>> No.23412740

>>23412712
Is Stirner the only philosopher who got btfo'd by both Nietzsche and Marx? Rare jewxaryan win

>> No.23412745

>>23412740
>a hack who copied his work and a communist who had a sissyfit because stirner pulled the veil on his attempt to make a new oligarchy with even more power than the tzar
>btfo
i bet you admire edison as well

>> No.23412777

>>23412648
Yeah that's me. Whaddup biatch

>> No.23413293

>thread about women on /lit/
>guaranteed 200+ replies
every time

>> No.23413327

>>23412721
Kristeller has a good book on him

>>23412726
Retard

>> No.23413338

>>23410430
Those more general ideas are often not literary based. Posting Lolita to talk about pedophilia doesn’t make it lit. Despite the snobbishness and intellectual holier than thou attitudes that fester here, self awareness is little, most of this board is mouth breathing tards who can’t recognize it

>> No.23413342

>>23409206
Women lack pneuma.

>> No.23413762

>>23409206
No because none of them have the psychological capacity for the amount of internal anguish and torment that men do.

>> No.23413890 [SPOILER] 

>>23409278
Elizabeth of Bohemia is an interesting choice. Do you study philosophy academically anon?

>> No.23413922

>>23413338
Yeah, I agree. But the mods are too stupid and too slow to delete something as simple and blatantly off-topic as the age old "(blogpost) any books for this feel?" in a timely manner. It's laughable how adding a single four letter word ("book") to the end of your post will turn your thread from off-topic to "on-topic" in the eyes of most jannies.

>> No.23413934

>>23413890
Yes. She came up in my classes on Descartes.
Imo she's right in her criticisms, but I find all of early modern philosophy unbearably shit.

>> No.23413969

>>23410321
Pre-socratics are mentioned constantly in Plato's dialogues, with quite a few of them named after the philosopher Socrates or anybody else is dialoging with. Plato is absolutely comparing his ideas with those of the pre-Socratics in his work

>> No.23414050

>/lit/ - Literature

>> No.23414118

>>23409293
whores love to claim they suffer when in fact they live a comfy life thanks to all their orbiters

>> No.23415051

>>23409210
I have one and its nice. Of course there are trade offs, she is a bit autistic.

>> No.23415075

>>23409288
Just jacked off to that specific video. Had the best cum of my life. Thank God!

>> No.23415107

>>23415075
This website gets the bad representation it does because of faggots like you! Kys immediately!

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>>23409206
Hello Dutch OP.
>>23409210
God I had a classmate who was like this. Beautiful woman, fellow phil student, really interested and articulate, and just a sweetheart overall. She got snatched up by some guy from her work like a month in that year tho. Still not over it.